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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:47:36 am 
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In sorting through a pile of 1935 NZ Pictorials 1d Kiwis last night, I came across this stamp, on the left ( Die 3), A regular Kiwi measures 20mm across (no laughing) but this one is definitely coming in short at a mere 18mm.
Please, does anyone have an explanation , is it from a coil ?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 13:16:21 pm 
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Just a guess, but has it been trimmed on the left hand side and then very roughly reperfed? It's certainly not the same as the clean perfs on the other three sides.

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Mark, is it the width of the stamp or width of the the design that you are measuring. If the latter, it may be something interesting.

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looks like a double strike of the perf bar on the left to me.

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Have a closer look at the RHS and Lower Side perfs...
Has someone being playing at reperfing this stamp for practice?
They seem too clean and deep almost having an entire circle cut - what happened to the other stamp on its right? And the top perfs are very cleanly cut acroos the top to! Actually dead straight.
And yet the left looks like it was done with my dog's teeth!

Yes I think its a reperf practice run.

(If it was a coil - did these stamps come as coil stamps?)

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Hold up guys :)

Mark

Do a very careful measurement of the perfs please.

It should measure 14 x 13½.
If it is a Die 3 then it will have Horizontal Mesh and have a multiple watermark.

However, IF the perfs measure 13½ x 14 and the mesh is Vertical Mesh
Then carefull pack it up and send it to me :)

Other than that I suggest this stamp came from a booklet and this was on the row of stamps closest to the stapled end of the booklet and it has been roughly torn out.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 16:32:19 pm 
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Hi Roly,
Yes it is 14 x 13.5, HM and die three, So I guess a booklet is maybe the answer....

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Or from a slot machine ? were these used on Die 3's ?

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Mark wrote:
Hi Roly,
Yes it is 14 x 13.5, HM and die three, So I guess a booklet is maybe the answer....


Sorry for my ignorance... A booklet stamp had full perfs? No imperf edge on 1 side?
My SGC doesn't say much.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 17:29:55 pm 
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here is a example from a recent cataloge, of a 'slot machine' , obviously a bit rough on the stamps !
I think the rough perfs look similar ?
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Yes, you are on to it Mark.

Both the Wiggins Teape and the Jones papers were made into rolls for slot machines.

If the calibration was slightly out then the serrating blade did not align with the perfs and you get the effect you have shown above.

I believe your copy is also from a slot machine caused by the metal blade that regulated the delivery of the stamps from the slot being out of calibration.

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Hi all,

I guess the left hand "perforation " is no perforation at all. It seems to me that this stamp is from a coil and is torn right to the original perforation at a dented metal frame by the clerk at the counter.
At least in Germany you can see something like that very often.
Don't know if it's the same in NZ.

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The left hand stamp is almost certainly from a 'coin in the slot' vending machine, slightly out of register causing the stamp to be 'torn' short of the original perfs. The next stamp out of the machine would presumably have had ragged 'perfs' down the right hand side followed very closely by a line of genuine perfs.

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