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Could anyone help me with these cancellations?

I have these two cancellations, that I don`t know.

The one on the 1d red says KGV M.O.O.S. and I thin Victoria. Is this right frame of the stamp a known flaw?

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The one on the 2s roo says something like F.C.T. ...

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On the 1d red, I think the p/m is Money Order Office- (Some town starting with S- perhaps Seymour. Vic. (Stawell- Sale- S......)

As for the ---- F.C.T I don't know but it has something that ends in IL which may mean it is some form of MILitary p/m.. but Mar1936 doesn't make it during the WWII, when there were many Military Camps which had their own p/m"s

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A guess:

F.C.T. = Federal Capital Territory? (For example, Jervis Bay in NSW which is a Federal territory.)


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Hi Seapaw and Waroff49,

thanks for your answers! So these are not totally common cancels?!

Anyone also an idea about the left frame of the 1d red stamp?

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I would say that the left frame is an extra frame or compartment line, which was caused by a raised area between the cliches, receiving ink which was printed onto the paper.

They can be found with between one and four frames showing the additional inking. I have one laying around somewhere which looks pretty spectacular, but I understand it 'aint worth a lot.

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On the 1d red, I think the p/m is Money Order Office- (Some town starting with S- perhaps Seymour. Vic. (Stawell- Sale- S......)

As for the ---- F.C.T I don't know but it has something that ends in IL which may mean it is some form of MILitary p/m.. but Mar1936 doesn't make it during the WWII, when there were many Military Camps which had their own p/m"s


FCT was the previous name for ACT (Australian Capital Territory).

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Hi Josto

Regarding the second stamp it is correct that the Australian Capital Territory was known as the Federal Capital Territory from 1911 until 1938. The date of your cancellation is in that period.

There is currently no suburb ending in IL but who knows 70 years ago. In addition I expect that there would be cancellations from 'official' places such as Parliament House.

There is a book in the Heritage Library titled "Postal History of the ACT.". If you are keen I will be in that part of town in March (perhaps earlier) and could see if there is anything to learn. The book is not for loan so must be studied on site.

I am happy to do it so please let me know.

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Hi!

I`d be very glad if you coul do this! Thanks very much for this offer!

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No problem :lol:

Have patience :!:

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M.O.O.S.B.

Was pretty common in Victoria .. Money Order Office and Savings Bank

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The cancellation appears to end in IL so would they have abreviated HILL to IL :?:

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Cancellation ends in IL. Nothing else appears in the post offices list that even is close to ending in IL. My mistake.

Maybe it is something like Canberra Air Mail?

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Re the F.C.T. cancel -

Here is a part "MUH" sheet of 36 (top row is laid over the other top row!) with the First Day Of Issue cancel -

Of May 9, 27 of F.C.T. (FEDERAL Capital Territory) and are the 30mm which are FAR more elusive than the smaller ones.

Still very cheap at under $5 each, for something 81 years old! .

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Can anyone help me with this cancellation? It says something like I.R.R. and GPO.

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Has anyone some information about this cancel? I couldn`t find any information!

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dwhopper wrote:
Cancellation ends in IL. Nothing else appears in the post offices list that even is close to ending in IL. My mistake.

Maybe it is something like Canberra Air Mail?

DWH


There appears to be a partial A to the left of FCT
CANBERRA certainly fits there.
Allowing for the same spacing dash opposite that on the right, there are probably 5 letters to the left of IL.
Are/were the words AIR MAIL used on cancellers?


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Hi Josto

I went to the Heritage Library today and had a look at the Postal History of the ACT. Unfortunately there was no answer in that publication to your question about the 2/- postmark. However what it did do was to confirm that there is not (and never has been) any post office in the ACT (or FCT) which ends in IL.

I decided to look a little further and have now come up with a publication which is probably already known to many of the members. Full details can be found on this site: http://librariesaustralia.nla.gov.au/ap ... startPos=3

Again this item can only be read at the library so I have already had a first quick look and found it has four volumes. It may or may not have what we require but I will check it out in the next week or so.

While there is no post office ending in IL I have already noted that some cancellations end with the word MAIL and others with RETAIL. All I have to do is find one in the ACT with that ending :!:

Wish me luck.

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Could anyone help me with these cancellations?

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Hope to hear from you all!

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Hi Josto

Further to my last post I found some cancellation stamps ending with Mail, some with Retail and others with Rail, but no Post Office in the ACT ending with IL.

However, I now think that I was looking at it back to front. I am not an expert on these matters but I will be very surprised if the cancellation is not AIR MAIL - CANBERRA F.C.T. A summary of what I find is now set out.

1. I had a look at my own Australian collection and came across this stamp:
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2. It seems that most larger post offices were issued with Air Mail cancellation stamps.
3. From the publication I mentioned in the post above I noted that Canberra Post Office ACT was issued with such a stamp in 1951. The document only recognises metal stamps so it is quite possible that a rubber stamp for FCT was in use in 1936.
4. If we assume that the top half reads AIR MAIL then it follows that the A before F.C.T. is at the end of the name of the Post Office.
5. In 1936 the only Post Offices in FCT ending in A were Tharwa, Manuka and Canberra. Neither of the first two were large centres at that time nor is there any indication that they were issued with such a cancellation stamp. The Canberra Post Office was in the centre of the main business district.
6. The only one of those post offices to have a Type 2C(T) stamp (see image below) was Canberra
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It would be nice if the many experts on this board with a good knowledge of postmarks could indicate if they think my opinion is reasonable.

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Not an expert but your opinion is extremely reasonable and logically sound.

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looks like youve put a lot of effort into that one Kevin and seems youve come up with a very logical answer - good work!


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Thanks you two.

All we need now is for Josto to read this.

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I will be very surprised if the cancellation is not AIR MAIL - CANBERRA F.C.T.


Kevin I think you are spot on :!: .

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#54, £1 Grey, an extremely scarce and unusual commercially used vertical strip of three, exceptionally well centered,strong color, two strikes of "Air Mail/Canberra FCT" c.d.s. postmarks, very fine; incredibly choice quality for a used high denomination multiple (for three used singles A$900+).

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This is a 1 1/2d KGV red smwmk perf. 14 with a paquebot cancel! Can anyone identify the postmark?

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This is a 1 1/2d KGV red smwmk perf. 14 with a paquebot cancel! Can anyone identify the postmark?

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Any idea on that?


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Has anyone any idea about the before shown paquebot cancel?

And here is another postmark I don`t know! Any help!?

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I think the paquebot is a Gibraltar transit mark. And the other one is a pretty generic California cancel -- no way of identifying where in California from what you have.

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Hi!

Can anyone help me with these two postmarks?

The first one is a double circle postmark, maybe a skeleton one with I think "Notting Hill West" or something similar. Does anyone know this postmark as in ppa there is Notting Hill "WEST" mentioned.

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The second one is besides a Darwin postmark and it seems to be a transit mark or something which is in violet and it reads something like ..."HOUTM".... Anyone any idea?

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Can anyone help me with these two postmarks?

The second one is besides a Darwin postmark and it seems to be a transit mark or something which is in violet and it reads something like ..."HOUTM".... Anyone any idea?

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Great work on the HOUTMAN. :)

The other is not Australian from anywhere, so a UK Notting Hill West (or similar) is pretty likely.

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