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I believe this to be IV/48 from information supplied.

Does this stamp have a Tin Shed flaw?

Thank you in advance

Regards Chris

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Thats it too much Red for me. I cant see a year date on this one, but i know its gotta be there somewhere? 1914?

Chris



I believe this is IV/60 (No known Flaws)

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This one I thought was interesting.

Could it be an early stage of Dot on Y of PENNY IV/41?

Nice little ink run LHC.

Regards Chris

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Hi (3dBlue) Chris,

You asked:
"The date on this 1d is Dec 19th 17. Could this be a candidate for an Eosin shade?"

I would say no, it is canceled TARA (Queensland) and I know of no Eosins from this town. It is hard to be certain of shades when they appear on the screen but your stamp may be from the G26 Salmon group. The stamp is not printed on Rough Paper, so not G62 (these are aniline) nor G64-65.

I can't help you regarding the writing on the back of the stamp, maybe some bushee was writing a novel .

"just going through some items from the UK. Another DEC 17 canceled stamp and hopefully on smooth paper and a candidate for G27."

I would place this also in the G26 group, the important word is Group, viewing in daylight you have shades that are deeper, lighter or a touch more blue or yellow in them and if the UV reaction is very similar they will still be in the Salmons group.

"3/42 White Flaw below RHVT"
I know of no retouch done to this cliché.


"I believe this to be IV/48 from information supplied."
It maybe, but there should be a small nick in the left frame opposite the 6th full shading line below the left wattle stem, but it may have been filled in with ink?

"Thats it too much Red for me. I cant see a year date on this one, but i know its gotta be there somewhere? 1914?"

On this type of cancel you won't find a year date in the circle as it's part of a roller cancel and the year appears about 2cm before the circular cancel, being a roller cancel you will also find the year after the circle.

"Could it be an early stage of Dot on Y of PENNY IV/41?"

This is not an early state of the 'Dot on Y' flaw. The stamp is canceled 18 March 1918 and the 'Dot on Y' flaw was on the plate from the start, it is on the Proof sheets.

If you are going to study the shades of the KGV 1d reds you will find a UV lamp very useful, OK they are not cheap to buy at the start but I've had mine for over 35 years and it's still going strong (if it brakes down now I'll swear ) there was a small team in Melbourne and most of our research was used for the list of the UV reactions in the ACSC, so make sure you get the correct type.

I hope the the above may be of some help.

Best regards David

The face of the stamp is very grubby as we can see.

The "error" area is all nice and white. My guess is this is silverfish or similar gnawing in more recent times.

However the same thing occurring down at back of Emu neck might dispel that theory a bit.

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Here is another 3d blue. This time a SMW die 1a type b, so it will be easy for anyone with the checklist.
A break in the 11th shading lines on the kings neck + a spot on the last, joining the hair.

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Left pane - 4,6,8,17,26,52,58,59.
Right pane - 1,4,5,13,14,19,33,34,35,37,40,41,55,60.
These are all type b stamps none have your 11th line broken

Left pane - 8,59.
Right pane - 33,34,35,37,
These 6 are without flaws so no listings

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Thanks for looking at the 3d GUTTERS.

I bought this, guessing it was 1R33. Now im not so sure when I compare it to the wiki.
Any idea's?

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Hi David,

Thank you for taking the time the give such a detailed reply. I am more than happy with G26 .. Salmon and 1d Red go so well together just like UV light and 1d Red which I am now going to put all my effort into getting. Then I can be like a scientist in his laboratory

With the roller cancels I guess I will need to identify the shade to get the year?

The IV/48 I cant see any sign of a nick and will give that one to the silverfish as Glen put forward..

Thank you once again for being so wonderfully helpful.

Regards Chris

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Hi Glen,

Thankyou for your input as well. I am going to soak it tonight and see what happens, but i think i agree about the nibblers at the top which is a shame as the spot on Emu appears to be a flaw as also the top of the frame below the nibble or thin. OMG I never new goood old KGV could be such a fun guy.

Regards Chris

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Well I have a couple more that may have some interest. Shades is where I need to be at I think, and cannot expect scanned images to give right colours. (My old Epson did a better job than this Canon. I miss it)

Thank you in advance.

Regards Chris

July 1919? OS Single Watermark G78? Or just another Carmine?

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Next for something completely different is a 2d Single Watermark Break in upper left frame. Can this be plated?

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This old Chesnut has three dodgy corners, either pulled or line perf? Single Watermark OPT OS.

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Yours 1R33 image is correct
Image 1R43 was in 1R33 slot this has been fixed thank you for letting me know.

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12A/L44
FLAW ABOVE LI OF AUSTRALIA
(a) Left Frame: Line within the frame 4.5mm long it's lower end is 8.5mm from the upper frame.
At the upper end, the inner margin of the line has two undulations causing two bulges in the line, which breaks through the outer margin of the frame.
(b) Right Wattle Spray And AUSTRALIA Band: Irregular colour flaw up to 4mm wide. Flaw starts at the lower edge of the 5th and 6th blooms, and extends downwards through the shading to the outer white oval above LIA.
(Not always present - 8 copies have been seen with dates from JA to MR 1923)

The wiki request it's soul

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Looks like a single line to me.

Also looks to be 1R58
Shading Behind Emu: Break near the right end of the 12th line (counting down) behind the rear leg.

The wiki request it's soul

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WoW Gutters thanks for that. I picked up 70 odd KGV OS in a lot so this is great news. Thank you

I commit these souls to the Wiki & anything else that you deem usable.

Regards Chris

One other 2d "BRUTHEN - VICTORIA" DEC 5th 1922. Where the whole top of the stamp appears odd. Thin frames at top. Wattles incomplete. Crumbling crown etc ... over inking?

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Hi all, could anyone comment on this 1/2d green please, are there any constant or listed flaws on the stamp, such as the white blob top left frame, the R and A of Australia seemed joined "But only just" and there are shading lines missing behind the emus head, any comments appreciated.
Just one more thing, if this stamp does have listed flaws or varieties, does it make it more interesting because it is a N.W. Pacific Islands overprint??
many thanks in advance.

Ian

Hi Chris,

I am confident that it is not a G78 Orange-Brown there is to much Red in the stamp.

On my screen I would put it in the G73-74 range.

If you do a search on the board you will find details on how to build your own UV lamp. Have just found it for you.

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=11084&hilit=UV+lamp

Best regards David

Hi

After my enforced holiday I note with sadness that this thread has almost dropped from sight. When I've finished plating the 2000 stamps I currently have to deal with I'll pay more attention.

In the meantime is this measles or slurred print? Very common on Die 2's but I've never seen it on a black-brown before.

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ianval wrote:



Ian, I have this ½ Penny and made some queries on page 161 on this thread:



I received following answer from jrg February Th:


Peter, that's a beaut example of 1L6. Cat is AUD75 for the unoverprinted version.

It's a Type A overprint, and you have one of approx 500 examples of this combination of variety and overprint, so worth considerably more than base cat.

Obviously, it is very difficult to get an estimate with this OP issues as the number of these are much lower then the "normal" ones!

Someone with more knowledge here can hopefully respond to your (and my ) question!

Cheers

Peter

This 1½d Brown Die 1 KGV Large Multi watermark seems to have a line joining 1st 'E' of THREE to 1st 'E' of PENCE; and the last 'E' of PENCE has short bottom bar.
Is it plateable?
Thanks

2R17 has a white spot in that area 2mm from the top frame. (image does show a lot smaller dot) maybe Kainnikanada can help with matching the overprint setting with the position.

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Peter:

The NWPI overprint is from the 3rd Setting despatched to Rabaul on March 15, 1915. 400 sheets of 120 of the ½d value were overprinted.

If we assume equal numbers of sheets from Plate 1 & 2 it follows that there should be about 200 possible examples of your stamp assuming all survived.

I have approximately 445 3rd Setting ½d in my collection.

If I make 1L=1 then the ratio of the other plates are: 1R=1.4, 2L=2.1 and 2R=1.2. I seem to have a disproportionate number of 2L. Perhaps the sheets of 120 were not broken down equally into blocks of 30 for overprinting.

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Gutters:

I do not think it can be 2R17 since the overprint type is from the Fifth Setting first issued May(?) 1918 but the horizontal row the stamp is from appears to be the 3rd one so could be plate positions 13-18 or 43-48.

The Fifth Setting "As" are difficult to identify and allocate to a particular horizontal row.

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Thank you Kannikanada!



I wonder, who else here has another mint copy?

Peter

Here you go, the only mint 2R17 in my collection:



Greg

Greg, Peter was referring to his 1L6 I think
Your image of 2R17 show the size of the white dot which is what I was saying about ianval's his is way to large

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.....absolutely correct

Ah. Perhaps, in a discussion thread that discusses hundreds of different stamps, it might be a good idea to be more specific than "I wonder, who else here has another mint copy?" People might assume you meant the stamp that had been discussed the most recently.

Cheers,

Greg

I concur quoting helps even if it is quoting your own post especially on a thread this size and frequently posted.

Your stamp helped anyway Greg and is not in the wiki may it's soul be harvested for future references.

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Of course. You're always welcome to harvest anything I post.

I should look at my larger blocks and see if there are gaps I can fill in easily. That one's from a 30-stamp block.

Greg

Any thoughts on this 2d please, flaw at right Fleur de Lys:

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Any thoughts on this 2d please, flaw at right Fleur de Lys:

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This 2d Die 1 looks like 15R37, Broken bottom right corner, anyone agree ?

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Donald I do believe it is small pits in the paper, front of emus neck, left of the right wattles, through the diamond band on the crown, even the kings neck.

Also I think it the same pitting on the second stamp also

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Look okay to me

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Hi Clemo,

I can't find anything in the checklist - I think its just a case of an unfortunate white speck and some over inking.

Cheers

Staples

Hi Peter, thanks very much for your comments which seemed to trigger off a bit of a debate "cheers all" although your stamp is the same it has a very different flaw.

cheers once again.

Ian

Thanks Staples,

Obliged to you.

Regards

Hi all
Would you consider this as dry ink?



Cheers
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Is this just a Tin Shed flaw at the Roo's Tail/LVT ?

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Do these look genuine, or is it a silly fake fit for the junk box?

I think it's a tinshed and if you gave it another wash it would remove more from within that area.

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They don't look the same.

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Good point ... darn fakers these days.

If its a fake, its a good one.
Looks the same as the one used in KGV ACSC page 4/242, the pulled stamp from underneath, the smudged 2nd R right down to the staining on the envelope.

I would imagine that the whereabouts of 103(OS)c. valued at 75K would be well known within the stamp world and not to hard to get a decent scan of.

The forger would definately need that scan to perform such a job.
Otherwise, that is actually 103(os)c.

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Barry_e the stamps are okay it the overprint that has been faked.

My bet it is the one that is inverted.

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Yeah, I understand that bit.

Just open up the above mentioned page from the acsc, it is the same image, suggesting that it is the actual piece that was used.

1. Ask Mr Geoff Kellow - where he got the image from.
2. Ask the owner if that particular cover is still in the private collection.
- Then it is a confirmed forgery, and at 75,000AU dollars its big enough to warrant jail time.

I wonder if a fisherman sent it to you Glen ?

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See what your talking about now Barry_e

fisherman

You observation of the extra bit and rust which as you say is on the piece would be hard to do.

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