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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 18:11:11 pm 
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I would like to know if this cover has any value?

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A quick google didn't turn up anything on the addressee, or on Fyfe & Grey. I know this is a blatantly philatelic cover....but that's all I know about it.

Help :!: :?: :arrow:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 18:21:28 pm 
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This might help.

They want you to sign in to see what it sold for.

Note: USA Stamps

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/c ... -246240174

Commemorative Postage Covers "Queen Mary" 1st.Voyage.
Image 1 Commemorative Postage Covers "Queen Mary" 1st.Voyage. 3
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Sold Date: 02/29/2012
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These are two commemorative envelopes stamped to recognise the first crossings by R.M.S. "Queen Mary" to & from the UK& the USA; From UK to USA - stamped "Southampton,6 a.m.,27May,1936"The envelope has printed on it - "Per R.M.S. Queen Mary",1st.Voyage,Southampton - New York,27th.May,1936.",followed by a picture of the ship,with the words below - "Fyfe & Grey,The Stamp Shop,Union Street,Birmingham" (made & printed in England).The envelope is addressed to a" Moncrieff P.Ford,c/o Mr.Frank Wilson,Stamps,100,Sixth Avenue,New York,U.S.A." From USA to UK - stamped "Varick St.Sta.N.Y." & dated Jun 4,8.30 p.m. 1936.The details on the envelope are as above,with the exception that it is addressed to "Fyfe & Grey,The Stamp Shop,Union Street,Birmingham,2,England." The first envelope has it's overlapping gummed piece stuck to the inside of the envelope,and the second has the top and a side slit open.The USA stamps are 2 and 3 cents issue,& the UK is a Geo.Vth.1d.(red).


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 18:25:42 pm 
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Maybe this also.


Hi everyone.

As I have Ancestry I have now let my 1911 FMP sub lapse. However, I am having trouble locating the following people in 1911. I should point out it is just idle curiosity, as we have an old fob watch with 'Ford Galloway' inscribed on the face. On a google search I have found the following, which I think is likely to be them:

'Moncrieff Ford....His son, Peter Ford was a jeweller and watchmaker in partnership with cousin, Peter Galloway in Birmingham.' (These men were born in Scotland).

Any info - and opinions on how valid this assumption is! - would be much appreciated - thank you.

Jan

1901 England Census 149 Hall Road

Name: Peter Ford
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Ford
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Handsworth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michaels
County/Island: Staffordshire

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: Handsworth

Peter Ford 49
Jane Ford 48
Moncrieff Peter Ford 19
Jame Williamson Ford 18
Jessie Thompson Ford 15
Arthur Sands Ford 12

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.p ... ad/1291331


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 18:26:55 pm 
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Yes


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 18:34:22 pm 
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And here...

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The Pittsburgh Press May 5 1935

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1 ... 68,6435486


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 18:39:36 pm 
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Paper. A Non-technical History and Description of the More Common Types as used in Philately by James H Obrig Aviation and Philately, based on the Norman Serphos Collection by Frank L Wilson United States Postal History (Part 2) by Seymour Dunbar The Three Cent 1857 - What to look for in the Perforated Issue by Richard McP Cabeen The First Stamps of Honduras by Bertram W H Poole 40 Years of United States Special Delivery Stamps by C W Bates Methods of Mounting by Paul F Berdanier

http://www.salemstampsociety.org/librarypage1.html


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 18:49:57 pm 
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Very many thanks for that Bazza :D

Nice little trap in that worthpoint, but I did discover the pair of covers shown sold in the UK for less than 10 quid. So, curiosity value only.

Lovely background material you've dug up for me - I think I'll keep it and do a write up for myself.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 07:38:17 am 
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The reference to "Stamps" in the address is merely a reference to Stamps Magazine, a fierce competitor to Linn's in the 1930s and 1940s.

I have a 1938 copy shown below, which contains a column by Frank L. Wilson, so there's a close connection. This issue also contains an article about counterfeit Canadian airmail stamps bearing counterfeit Stanley Gibbons "guarantee" markings on the back(s), and I will post that article later.

The publisher was H. L. Lindquist, who ventured into virtually every area of philatelics for many years.

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Ahoj everyone!

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This is the front of a cover marked "Per S.S. Queen Mary" that apparently travelled from Brooklyn New York to Sunderland U.K. on 2nd June 1936.

As the Maiden Voyage of the Queen Mary to New York took place on 27th May 1936, would 2nd June 1936 have been the date of the Maiden Voyage from New York back to Southampton?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 03:23:03 am 
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Seems inevitable that you have the return trip from the first sailing. Whether that qualifies as part of the "maiden voyage," I don't know. Remember, as ladies will remind you, you can only be a maiden once. :shock:


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Thanks doug.

I suppose the postmark date is not necessarily the date of sailing, so I would still be interested to know the first US to UK sailing.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 04:05:43 am 
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I found a timeline for the Queen Mary's first voyage; she arrived in New York at 4:20 p.m. on June 1, which "suggests" your June 2 cover must be part of the return trip.

http://www.queenmary.com/our-story/timeline.php


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Thanks again doug!

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The return trip started on 5 June. A ship can only have one maiden voyage, however. This link gives some interesting info on the covers:

http://www.ephemera-society.org.uk/articles/jgs_4.html


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Ahoj Chris!

Thank you for your reply.

Your link made interesting reading.

Did you notice that the the image in the first post on this thread was similar to yours with only 1d postage paid?

I was thinking that a Maiden Voyage would be the round trip, but no matter. :)

This is a Maiden Voyage cover with a meter cancellation that I managed to sell on eBay recently despite the stains.

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This is a cover I have in my collection. The typing and rubber-stamp cachet indicates it traveled on the maiden voyage, but there really is no postal evidence that it made the trip. (There is no backstamp.)

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As an aside, the Queen Mary now serves as a full-service hotel in Long Beach, Florida. These are a couple of photos we snapped a few years ago. We were on our way to the airport for home, so we didn't have time to actually go on board.

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Szykney wrote:
As an aside, the Queen Mary now serves as a full-service hotel in Long Beach, Florida. These are a couple of photos we snapped a few years ago. We were on our way to the airport for home, so we didn't have time to actually go on board.


... and of course, I meant to type California instead of Florida. :oops:

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