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Hi :

Is anyone able to identify the plate number of Rayon II ?

Thanks-Ali

Hello philatelia!

This will become difficult with the heavy cancel on it.

I´m not an expert in this, and i had Rayons aswell, also been working into these old Swiss stamps.

I can give you a link to a Type plating page, here you find different Rayon Types.

Click on the one you are looking for, and then a window will open with a plating sheet.

With the Rayon II, you will find the most difference in the ring in the top 1/3.

Good luck

http://www.pro-philatelie.info/faelschungen/altschweiz/rayon.html

I had a look, just of interest.

I looked in the left corner, there is a thick marking.

If you start there, working to the bottom middle,

there is a pattern which looks almost the same

I would say plate 4.

Give it a try

From this reference, this looks like position 12 - dot after RAYON.

Hi All :


Thank you very much for your efforts to respond to my question regarding rayon II .

To tell the truth,I have looked all over internet and bought numerous catalogs on Swiss stamps and as of now,have not found any solid reference regarding a clear answers on the plate numbers and positions on Rayon I,II and III in English.

Regarding this stamp ,may be I should redirect my question in a different manner.The stamp has a full frame around the cross so, the better question is if there more that one plate that has frame around the cross on Rayon II?

Your comment is greatly appreciated.

Regards-Ali Madani,CPA

Philatelia,

If it has the full frame around the cross then it is an international rarity! Less than a dozen exist and they change hands for many tens of thousands of Dollars or Euros or Francs. Even 10/12 or 11/12 of the outline is pretty rare.

Obviously there are many forgeries where the frame has been painted in around the central cross.

If you suspect it is genuine then it should be sent to an expert for a certificate.

There are four experts on the AIEP web-site (though I think Herr Kimmel is in the process of retiring from expertising).

http://www.aiep-experts.net/cms/index.php?option=com_comprofiler&task=usersList&listid=7&action=search


Scott

I can't say if it's real or not,from the photo,but I will also go with 4.

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Dear CHzug1291:

I tried to email you the image via your email address but
it did not go through.That is why I am posting the better
image here also this is the link to the location of the image
at photobuck which you could adjust the brightness as well
as the size .About the stamp I should tell you that it has the
full frame around the cross with triple grid cancel plus another
incomplete blue cancel.So it as black,red and blue cancel wh
ichis quite unique since I have followed the sale of similar stamps
in the market place and almost all have P.P. cancels on them.
That is why I need to obtain more information about the stamp.
I had shown the stamp to the expert in southern California and
they verbally O.K. it but I need a Swiss experts opinion on it for
my own sake.I appreciate your research on the stamp via the
website you are a member since I do not speak Swiss.This is the link to the original location of the stamp's image.Take care-Ali
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Hi Peter :


I have a hard time emailing the email the image to your
email address (at) bigpond.com but posted it again here.
I hope this will do .Regards-Ali

Hi : Stamps1804:


Thanks for your reference link.It was very helpful for
rayon issues.I was wondering if you know of a similar
link for other early issues of Switzerland (i.e. Cantonal,
Zurich,Geneva issues? Please let me know.Thanks again
for your comments-Ali

Hello philatelia!

I had a look if i could find something that helps you.

I found these - one is a overview, the other one a shop, but there you can enlargen the pictures and compare.

The third one is a page where only forgeries are shown.

If you would like to search a little more type the following in:
kantonalmarken schweiz

http://www.philaworld.ch/index.php/Kantonalmarken#Die_Auflagezahlen_der_Schweizer_Kantonalmarken:

http://www.swissphila.ch/kantonal.html

http://www.pro-philatelie.info/faelschungen/altschweiz/kantonalmarken.html

I hope it helps

Regards, stamps