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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 22:55:00 pm 
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I receive three different club " Circulating Packets " here in UK and am usually resigned to getting Post Office labels for franking, but nice stamps are perceived as a pleasant bonus worth saving from the packaging. :D :D

THEN TODAY, --- Shock ! horror !! disbelief !!! disgust :evil: :evil: :evil:
At least 5 previous club members used the same packaging, and 4 of them ruined the previous stamps with labels and tape. Why would they be so cavalier about removing and recycling and still subscibe to the packet as " Stamp Collectors" ?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 23:18:10 pm 
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I would be more than grumpy *biting my tongue*.

I get the same from many sellers and fellow collectors. Some go to the trouble of getting nice stamps then negate their effort by plastering the package with adhesive tape of the type that doesn't come off but eventually deteriorates and destroys the whole piece in the process.

I think they simply refuse to understand that something put through the mail today can have value for someone.

Agree with the mailing label gripe too. Just got a heavy package from Stanley Gibbons. Asked them to use real, current stamps. £55 of stamps on a parcel piece would have been nice for someone ... but no ... boring old mailing label ... mongrels. :evil:

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Agree with the mailing label gripe too. Just got a heavy package from Stanley Gibbons. Asked them to use real, current stamps. £55 of stamps on a parcel piece would have been nice for someone ... but no ... boring old mailing label ... mongrels. :evil:

The mailing label-only policy of SG was brought up in a thread a few months ago, and prompted someone in SG's office to even sign up with SB to discuss the matter. The whole "we're too busy to lick-n-stick stamps, if we did that we'd have to hire more staff, which would meaning charging more...".

I got a parcel from Spink recently, and they too used a label. The postage was a pretty round number, something like £20.25, it wouldn't have been hard to slap a few high-value defins on. Its not like we're asking them to sit with a calculator tallying-up all the odd cents from a liberal wallpapering of low-face commems (or just use them in blocks of 5/10).

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vikingeck wrote:
I receive three different club " Circulating Packets " here in UK and am usually resigned to getting Post Office labels for franking, but nice stamps are perceived as a pleasant bonus worth saving from the packaging. :D :D

THEN TODAY, --- Shock ! horror !! disbelief !!! disgust :evil: :evil: :evil:
At least 5 previous club members used the same packaging, and 4 of them ruined the previous stamps with labels and tape. Why would they be so cavalier about removing and recycling and still subscribe to the packet as " Stamp Collectors" ?

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Really strange, and you are quite right to be grumpy.

Is this a specialist circuit for Viet-Nam or Paraguay, and these people are so out of the loop that they don't understand about modern collecting?

I see Jersey stamps, but re-use in Guernsey with a label, and the another one in the IV postal area which presumably includes much of NE Scotland?

Incidentally if you don't want the GB label I can use it! I've already scanned it as an example of late usage of a white (not Machin) label with narrow font but ' / / ' between the dates rather than ' - - '.

But sheer vandalism it is. I would write in strongest terms to the society's journal editor with an image as you've shown here, suggesting that he remind all members that as members of a philatelic society it is incumbent on them to use stamps and save stamps, and not to destroy collectables in this way.

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Ian , thanks for the supportive posting, I have indeed already contacted the packet secretary with a scan>

Below the items you ID there were also GB Crimea Soldier 68p ,a thermoChemical and a £2 small Machin :( ruined :(

As to the white label, IV is Inverness and anything West & North of Elgin. Mainland Highlands as well as the remoter Western Isles. I understand that many English companies which advertise free shipping refuse the privilege to anyone with an IV postcode and add a £5 surcharge minimum! The office of origin I suspect is ALNESS in Rossshire a small village north of Inverness

I have no interest in these things so you are welcome to it . I'd love to be able to rescue the Guernsey and Jersey items but reckon no chance!. Incidentally the PO label has vertical slits down the centre and horizontal across "postage paid UK" is that normal ?

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It was me who joined stampboards on behalf of Stanley Gibbons and explained the reasons for why we don't use stamps when sending our large packages. Chief among those reasons is the fact that we don't use Royal Mail for many orders as it is far cheaper (for us and therefore our customers) to use couriers such as Parcelforce or EXPD. For many of our overseas orders using Royal Mail isn't even an option because of the weight of many of our packages. Of course efficiency is another reason as we dispatch hundreds of orders everyday, but I can assure you it isn't laziness.

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I have no interest in these things so you are welcome to it . I'd love to be able to rescue the Guernsey and Jersey items but reckon no chance!. Incidentally the PO label has vertical slits down the centre and horizontal across "postage paid UK" is that normal ?

Yes, that is quite normal, and was a security feature to stop them being peeled off and reused, back in 2002.
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vikingeck wrote:
I have no interest in these things so you are welcome to it . I'd love to be able to rescue the Guernsey and Jersey items but reckon no chance!. Incidentally the PO label has vertical slits down the centre and horizontal across "postage paid UK" is that normal ?

Yes, that is quite normal, and was a security feature to stop them being peeled off and reused, back in 2002.
(Emailing you separately)


2002 type labels used in 2011! I guess ALNESS Doesn't have a huge mailing then :D

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norvic wrote:
vikingeck wrote:
I have no interest in these things so you are welcome to it . I'd love to be able to rescue the Guernsey and Jersey items but reckon no chance!. Incidentally the PO label has vertical slits down the centre and horizontal across "postage paid UK" is that normal ?

Yes, that is quite normal, and was a security feature to stop them being peeled off and reused, back in 2002.
(Emailing you separately)


2002 type labels used in 2011! I guess ALNESS Doesn't have a huge mailing then :D

Alex

Be fair, the Machin label only started in London in June 2009, and was only extended to Wales in April 2010 and nationwide thereafter. Such was the problems caused by the 'teeth' on the gold ones, many offices continued to use the white ones to exhaustion. Gold should be almost nationwide now, although I was told about a sub-PO in Suffolk where white, perforated gold, and unperforated gold were used at random!

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