Postage Stamp Chat Board & Stamp Bulletin Board Forum
 

World's No#1 place to discuss STAMP COLLECTING and PHILATELY!
 

ZERO cost to ANYONE  -  NO annoying ads everywhere!

It is currently Sat May 25, 2013 16:10:20 pm

All times are UTC + 10 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 492 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 10  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: MAXIMAPHILY
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 13:05:28 pm 
Offline
I was online for our Birthday Number 5!
I was online for our Birthday Number 5!
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 03, 2007 13:59:53 pm
Posts: 39391
Location: Klang, Selangor, Malaysia
Saw a couple of postings of maximum cards so thought it nice to start one for those who are more into it. I'm not into this maximaphily but rememeber having collected 2 sets from the 1990s from Malaysia.

Putting this set first.
Happy viewing, commenting and posting.

Image

Image

Image

Image

Cheers
Andrew[/img]


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 14:45:48 pm 
Offline
I was online for our Birthday Number 5!
I was online for our Birthday Number 5!
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2007 20:41:04 pm
Posts: 18209
Location: First star on the left then straight on till morning ...
Great idea for a new thread Andrew 8)

This an important area of philately often overlooked for the more "glamorous" areas.

_________________
Tony


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 14:57:49 pm 
Offline
I was online for our Birthday Number 5!
I was online for our Birthday Number 5!
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 03, 2007 13:59:53 pm
Posts: 39391
Location: Klang, Selangor, Malaysia
Thanks Lakatoi,

Hope to see more posts on this subject.

Cheers
Andrew


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 16:30:06 pm 
Offline
Mauve Shooting Star Posting MANIAC!
Mauve Shooting Star Posting MANIAC!
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 07, 2007 16:49:07 pm
Posts: 3274
Location: New Zealand
New Zealand 2005 King Kong Maximum Card

Image


Last edited by stamper on Sun Jun 24, 2007 16:39:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 16:31:37 pm 
Offline
Mauve Shooting Star Posting MANIAC!
Mauve Shooting Star Posting MANIAC!
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 07, 2007 16:49:07 pm
Posts: 3274
Location: New Zealand
New Zealand 2005 Rugby Lions Series Maximum Card

Image


Last edited by stamper on Sun Jun 24, 2007 16:39:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 16:33:35 pm 
Offline
Mauve Shooting Star Posting MANIAC!
Mauve Shooting Star Posting MANIAC!
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 07, 2007 16:49:07 pm
Posts: 3274
Location: New Zealand
New Zealand Lord of The Rings 2004 Home of middle Earth maximum card

Image


Last edited by stamper on Sun Jun 24, 2007 16:40:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 16:36:02 pm 
Offline
Mauve Shooting Star Posting MANIAC!
Mauve Shooting Star Posting MANIAC!
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 07, 2007 16:49:07 pm
Posts: 3274
Location: New Zealand
New Zealand 2005 ( for 2006 Kiwipex ) maximum card

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 19:15:04 pm 
Offline
I was online for our Birthday Number 5!
I was online for our Birthday Number 5!
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 03, 2007 13:59:53 pm
Posts: 39391
Location: Klang, Selangor, Malaysia
Stamper,

Nice collection there.

Cheers
Andrew


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Maximum Cards
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 20:58:43 pm 
Offline
GOLD Shooting Star Stampboards LEGEND!
GOLD Shooting Star Stampboards LEGEND!
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2007 03:15:22 am
Posts: 7703
Location: Columbus, Ohio. USA
The 4 NZ cards are great items, but none of the cards shows the same image as the stamps. Do true maximum cards have to reproduce the stamp design??

If so, what would you call the NZ cards?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 21:33:59 pm 
Offline
Mauve Shooting Star Posting MANIAC!
Mauve Shooting Star Posting MANIAC!
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 07, 2007 16:49:07 pm
Posts: 3274
Location: New Zealand
Gosh doug2222usa you've got me perplexed
NZ Post produces maximum cards that
may or may not match the stamp to the card.
See how this one is advertised.

Image

I would like to hear more on this anomaly


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 23:03:49 pm 
Offline
AQUA Shooting Star Board ADDICT!
AQUA Shooting Star Board ADDICT!
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2007 21:56:23 pm
Posts: 549
Location: Leicestershire, UK
Note that Maximum cards should NOT be direct reproductions of the stamp.

The conditions for exhibiting cards are ( very roughly paraphrased) the maximum correlation of stamp,card and cancellation, without using a direct copy.

The classic form of maxicard collecting is to purchase a commercially available postcard, affix the appropriate stamp, and post it at a "relevant" location.

Post Office reproduction cards are definitely "cheating".

Malcolm


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 00:25:53 am 
Offline
WINNER! Stampboards Poster Of The Month
WINNER! Stampboards Poster Of The Month
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 02, 2007 22:34:14 pm
Posts: 14595
Location: Alpine, Texas/ Scarsdale, New York
Yep, British style PHQ cards don't count.

Here is a Japanese version where the artist was only a little too far to the left.

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 05:03:38 am 
Offline
I was online for our Birthday Number 5!
I was online for our Birthday Number 5!
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 01, 2007 02:10:49 am
Posts: 25416
Location: West Coast of England
Image

Apollo 11 Maxicard from USA - Pubished by Colorano Covers


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 06:37:58 am 
Offline
WINNER! Stampboards Poster Of The Month
WINNER! Stampboards Poster Of The Month
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 02, 2007 22:34:14 pm
Posts: 14595
Location: Alpine, Texas/ Scarsdale, New York
The postcard image is missing a large rock to the right of the large crater and the Earth has rotated.

Not a true maxicard! 8)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 08:04:49 am 
Offline
Senior Member Advanced Stamp Board Guru
Senior Member Advanced Stamp Board Guru
User avatar

Joined: Fri May 18, 2007 16:35:56 pm
Posts: 236
Location: Macquarie Fields Australia
What would these bookmarks be classed as that were issued by Aust Post
Image

Mike
There is no finish line


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Bookmarks
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 08:29:13 am 
Offline
GOLD Shooting Star Stampboards LEGEND!
GOLD Shooting Star Stampboards LEGEND!
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2007 03:15:22 am
Posts: 7703
Location: Columbus, Ohio. USA
Philatelic novelties. Philatelic miscellany. Perfectly respectable as long as the prices are consistent with their pedigree.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 18:49:30 pm 
Offline
I was online for our Birthday Number 5!
I was online for our Birthday Number 5!
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 01, 2007 02:10:49 am
Posts: 25416
Location: West Coast of England
iomoon wrote:
The postcard image is missing a large rock to the right of the large crater and the Earth has rotated.

Not a true maxicard! 8)


Iomoon, I refer you to Malcolm's earlier comment:

malcolm197 wrote:
Note that Maximum cards should NOT be direct reproductions of the stamp.

The conditions for exhibiting cards are ( very roughly paraphrased) the maximum correlation of stamp,card and cancellation, without using a direct copy.


I think that a Colorano artist has "recreated" the design of the stamp on the card as there are also other differences - the position of both the Astronaut's feet relative to the leg of the LEM are different, and the pouches attached to the waist of his spacesuit are not the same.

By Malcolm's definition, therefore, I believe that this is a true Maximum card :wink:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 23:42:28 pm 
Offline
WINNER! Stampboards Poster Of The Month
WINNER! Stampboards Poster Of The Month
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 02, 2007 22:34:14 pm
Posts: 14595
Location: Alpine, Texas/ Scarsdale, New York
Gavin

My first reply was tongue-in-cheek.

In reality, there was no camera on the Moon to record Neil Armstrong's first step.
It was located on the landing vehicle.
Therefore both the postcard and the stamp are figments of the artists imagination.
Since there were unlikely to be two artists with the same imagination, the image of the astronaut on the stamp was copied by the postcard maker.
By definition, therefore, the stamp is not a true maxicard (see Malcom's definition) despite the rocks and rotated Earth.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 23:59:55 pm 
Offline
PLATINUM Shooting Star Stampboard LEGEND
PLATINUM Shooting Star Stampboard LEGEND
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 06, 2005 20:24:58 pm
Posts: 12549
Location: A bar somewhere near you ....
malcolm197 wrote:
Note that Maximum cards should NOT be direct reproductions of the stamp.

The conditions for exhibiting cards are ( very roughly paraphrased) the maximum correlation of stamp,card and cancellation, without using a direct copy.

The classic form of maxicard collecting is to purchase a commercially available postcard, affix the appropriate stamp, and post it at a "relevant" location.

Post Office reproduction cards are definitely "cheating".

Malcolm


Never knew that .. learn something new here each day for sure!

_________________
.
Click HERE to see superb, RARE and unusual stamps, at FIXED low nett prices, high rez photos, and NO buyer fees etc!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 23:53:59 pm 
Offline
AQUA Shooting Star Board ADDICT!
AQUA Shooting Star Board ADDICT!
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2007 21:56:23 pm
Posts: 549
Location: Leicestershire, UK
All

The acknowledged "experts" in this field are the French who have been dabbling in this field since before the days of the illustrated FDC.

What you need is knowledge of the dates of issue ( and also the design if possible ) in advance and knowledge of the "new" postcard market.

To do it properly needs a high level of dedication, knowledge and most of all organisation - it is so easy to "miss the boat" with your chosen postcard arriving after the issue date of the stamp !

Sorry but the "moon" postcard is just too close to the stamp.While it is different in the detail, it is far too obviously "inspired" by the stamp design.

Closest to the ideal is the "Penguins" stamp/postcard combo.I would imagine that the issue of the postcard was completely independent to the issue of the stamp.

The whole idea of maxlmaphily is to produce a "unique" combination - or at least any duplication would be "coincidental".

Malcolm


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 00:05:33 am 
Offline
AQUA Shooting Star Board ADDICT!
AQUA Shooting Star Board ADDICT!
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2007 21:56:23 pm
Posts: 549
Location: Leicestershire, UK
To give you some good examples some quite early. look at the French site

perso.orange.fr/joel.puissant

The pictures on here illustrate the philosophy precisely.

The NZ Lord of the Rings cards illustrate the technicality, but as PO commercial productions perhaps not the philosophy.

A view of the site will illustrate the difficulty of doing this subject well - I certainly would not have the time,patience or perseverance to carry this off - but I can understand people being "hooked" on this as an intellectually satisfying "active" hobby.

Malcolm


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 00:19:26 am 
Offline
WINNER! Stampboards Poster Of The Month
WINNER! Stampboards Poster Of The Month
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 02, 2007 22:34:14 pm
Posts: 14595
Location: Alpine, Texas/ Scarsdale, New York
If you search ebay for TAAF or FSAT using the "view all sites option", you will find that about 95% of them are FDC's, EC's, and maxicards.

Now, it only the French would learn to use scanners and ignore ipix!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 00:21:28 am 
Offline
AQUA Shooting Star Board ADDICT!
AQUA Shooting Star Board ADDICT!
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 13, 2007 12:29:00 pm
Posts: 545
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Australia Post defines these as follows:
Guideline G8.3.6
- Souvenir envelopes and postal stationery


Maximum Card
A maximum card is a picture postcard. The picture-side bears an affixed stamp and postmark in concordance as well as the picture. The other side has room for a message and the address. It bears a Postage Prepaid imprint that prepays postage to any Australian destination or to any overseas destination by Air Mail at any time. Sales periods and purchase arrangements are in the Australian Stamp Bulletin. It may be definitive, commemorative or special issue.

Prepaid Postcard
A prepaid postcard is a picture postcard. The picture-side bears a stamp design as well as the picture. The other side has room for a message and the address. It bears a Postage Prepaid imprint that prepays postage to any Australian destination or to any overseas destination by Airmail at any time. It may be definitive, commemorative or special issue.


No mention of the card picture related to the stamp image!

Visit my Information webpage for more details about this topic. Click on www below.

_________________
Author of the Australian Stamp Variations Catalogue.
Visit my website for interesting information and stamp variations for sale. http://www.asv.net.au


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 00:30:22 am 
Offline
WINNER! Stampboards Poster Of The Month
WINNER! Stampboards Poster Of The Month
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 02, 2007 22:34:14 pm
Posts: 14595
Location: Alpine, Texas/ Scarsdale, New York
From FIP

The constituent elements of a maximum card should conform to the following characteristics:
1.
The postage stamp

The postage stamp should be postally valid and affixed only on the view side of the picture postcard. (postage due, pre-cancels, fiscals and stamps violating the "Code of Ethics of the UPU" are not admissible, as well as official stamps, except those which are at the disposal of the public: United Nations, UNESCO, European Council, etc..).

2.
The picture postcard

Its dimensions must conform to universal postal convention. Chapter 1 Article 19 para 1 (max. 105 X 148 mm. min. 90 X 140 mm). At least 75% of its area must be used for the picture and the illustration should show the best possible concordance with the subject of the stamp or with one of them, if there are several. Picture postcards with mere reproduction of the stamps are forbidden.

3.
The postmark and time

The pictorial design of the cancellation and the place of cancellation (name of the Post office) should have a close and direct connection with the subject of the stamp and of the picture postcard, and should be dated within the validity of the stamp and as close as possible to the date of its issue.

there are more, but these will suffice.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 16:30:40 pm 
Offline
Suspended Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 18, 2007 14:21:59 pm
Posts: 294
Location: Pasadena, California, USA
This would count, I think:

Image

The postcard featured the "old" stamp, and I used the reissued stamp. The "old" stamp is practically a landmark by now, and I had it canceled in the city where the original expo was held.

Meet the criteria?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 16:33:16 pm 
Offline
Suspended Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 18, 2007 14:21:59 pm
Posts: 294
Location: Pasadena, California, USA
The trick to get gorgeous cancels on slippery surfaces, by the way, is to spray them down with matte finish acrylic artist's sealer/finisher after applying the stamp. It acts as a mordant for the ink. Some people swear by spray starch, but it contains too much water for me.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 04:45:37 am 
Offline
AQUA Shooting Star Board ADDICT!
AQUA Shooting Star Board ADDICT!
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2007 21:56:23 pm
Posts: 549
Location: Leicestershire, UK
Joshua

Probably does not "strictly" meet the criteria for competition purposes. However would be a most interesting non-competitive exhibit as it does show some originality of thought,and effort to get the conformance right. The idea is to get away from the Post Office official card and stamp which is relatively easy and requires no originality or "flair". One of the things I admire the French for is "flair". They have it in abundance and can apply it to the most mundane things.

Only the French could make a municipal fire station into an architectural masterpiece, like the one in Reims, and even their bridges and roads have a tendency to beauty as well as utility- many of the motorways have series of sculptures alongside them.

Malcolm


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 04:52:42 am 
Offline
Site Administrator
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:46:06 pm
Posts: 12155
Location: That's on a need to know basis - and YOU do not need to know!
Malcolm .. why not post a few of the French ones here for instruction and interest?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 04:56:06 am 
Offline
Site Administrator
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:46:06 pm
Posts: 12155
Location: That's on a need to know basis - and YOU do not need to know!
iomoon wrote:

Picture postcards with mere reproduction of the stamps are forbidden.



I love the Omaha. 8)

To be technical if the modern stamp was reproduced in mono .. wouldn't it get clobbered by this rule? Isn't design the same?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 08:32:36 am 
Offline
WINNER! Stampboards Poster Of The Month
WINNER! Stampboards Poster Of The Month
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 02, 2007 22:34:14 pm
Posts: 14595
Location: Alpine, Texas/ Scarsdale, New York
Here is image of St. Lucia, Pigeon Island maxicard and a close up of the stamp.

Image

Image

_________________
If it erupts, don't blame me!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 08:34:04 am 
Offline
Suspended Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 18, 2007 14:21:59 pm
Posts: 294
Location: Pasadena, California, USA
Probably gets clobbered anyway. Oh well. :-)

Here's the story behind the mono-color vs bi-color: originally the stamps were commissioned as frame-plus-vignette two-color issues. Then the US was in the midst of the Spanish-American war, and it was decided that the two-color printing would be too expensive. So the designs were re-engraved as single-die issues.

The reprint? Printed from the original frame-plus-vignette intaglio dies! Beautiful stamps, and to get them at face value? Priceless.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 15:58:22 pm 
Offline
PLATINUM Shooting Star Stampboard LEGEND
PLATINUM Shooting Star Stampboard LEGEND
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 06, 2005 20:24:58 pm
Posts: 12549
Location: A bar somewhere near you ....
Sir William that collects red postmarks here will lust after that card!

_________________
.
Click HERE to see superb, RARE and unusual stamps, at FIXED low nett prices, high rez photos, and NO buyer fees etc!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 00:05:39 am 
Offline
AQUA Shooting Star Board ADDICT!
AQUA Shooting Star Board ADDICT!
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2007 21:56:23 pm
Posts: 549
Location: Leicestershire, UK
The St. Lucia example is excellent. The postcard appears to be a normally available postcard. The conformance with the stamp is so close ( angle of picture etc) that I wonder if the stamp artist used that very postcard as the basis of his design. There is a precedent for this. Some early pictorial stamps of Turkey have a similar degree of conformance with contemporary commercial postcards ( there was an article in a UK stamp magazine some years ago showing the stamps and the postcards and the similarity is amazing )

For French examples of maximum cards I refer you to the website on my post of 9 July.

Malcolm


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 03:05:17 am 
Offline
PLATINUM Star Mega Stamp Poster
PLATINUM Star Mega Stamp Poster
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2007 04:54:31 am
Posts: 452
Location: USA, Virginia
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image

Please check my other posts (Roll Call, etc.).

_________________
See cool personalized stamps at http://www.freewebs.com/dorinco
Visit http://www.squidoo.com/dorincard


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Definition needed:
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 04:32:25 am 
Offline
GOLD Shooting Star Stampboards LEGEND!
GOLD Shooting Star Stampboards LEGEND!
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2007 03:15:22 am
Posts: 7703
Location: Columbus, Ohio. USA
for "traditional" and "freestyle" maximum cards, so we understand what we're talking about...


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 06:00:59 am 
Offline
PLATINUM Star Mega Stamp Poster
PLATINUM Star Mega Stamp Poster
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2007 04:54:31 am
Posts: 452
Location: USA, Virginia

The Santa Claus MC above is freestyle because it's made from a greeting card, onto which I affixed an address label so that my MPP cancel is visible on white backgroud, and it doesn't smear on the glossy surface. When necessary, I can affix and postmark additional stamps, to make the rate, on the back of the card. Especially if I don't mail it.

Traditional = In strict observance of the International Philatelic Federation (FIP) rules and regulations about maximaphily. No this, no that, only this, only that, everything else is forbidden and illegal.

Ooh!...

They are suffocating exactly what they should nurture: your creativity.

I have studied those rules in detail, I have discussed with quite a few world-class maximaphilists, and I got their feedback, too, about all this "ordnung und disziplin" mindset.
Hey, even the FIP Maximaphily Commission has officialy agreed that "we need to relax the rules, so that we attract more youth to the hobby", etc.

Check this out, from Maxifrance 2005:

"The next subject introduced was "How to bring young people closer to
Maximaphily - Maximaphily in relation to one-frame collections and the
preferences of young people", presented by Pascal Bandry, who is responsible
for the youth section of "Les Maximaphiles Fran'ais" and Paul Raynaud, member
of the same association. In the discussion which followed, Michel Menchon, vicepresident
of the FFAP Youth Commission, took part and also Miguel A. Garcia
Fernandez, chairman of the FIP Youth Philately Commission, whose presence
gave an especial dimension to the entire discussion of the subject. He
congratulated the organisers for the quality of this Maximaphily seminar and
stated that Maximaphily which is entirely independent FIP class is actually
developing on the international level.
All the speakers emphasised the positive and attractive role which the Maximum
card continues to play for young collectors both in the Youth Class and in
Thematic Philately, and in the promotion classes of one-frame and open class.
Philippe Lesage, president of the French Philatelic Federation (FFAP) Youth
commission, recapitulating invoked the encouraging example of the school
competition in Cyprus, and stressed the need to adopt new ideas and new
approaches,
emphasising the necessity for an intensive, collective and
coordinated endeavour by the international and specific philatelic leadership and
the monitors for training young people. The restrictions of the Maximaphily
regulations are rather complicated and appear simple only with the eyes of the
well informed specialists...
It is thus necessary to be conscious of that in the
approach with the newcomers... Philippe Lesage, convinced of the real attractive
power of the cart-maximum, estimates that the great impact of Maximaphily on
the general public risk to be blocked by heavy limits which are not always
obvious.
(Dorin's comment: even when they are obvious, they still are heavy limits :D )

C. The FIP Official Maximaphily Meeting
On the afternoon of the same day, the FIP Official Maximaphily Meeting was held
as programmed. Nicos Rangos preside over the meeting of delegates in the
presence of Joseph Wolff, FIP vice-president who has the responsibility for
Maximaphily. After the roll call, a very well-prepared presentation started
concerning the respect for the Maximaphily regulations and the validity of the
Maximum cards (SREV and Guidelines), introduced by professor Jean-Claude
Bouquet and Anny Boyard, president of "Les Maximaphiles Fran'ais"
Association. The presentation was followed by a lively debate on some special
points concerning the percentage of the postcard surface illustration (75%?), the
dimensions of the postcards, the concordance between the three component
elements of the Maximum card and the Maximum cards with stamps cut from
official postal stationery items. On all the above points, agreements were
reached
which will very shortly be defined by the FIP Maximaphily Commission
Bureau and presented to the next FIP congress for the ratification procedures.
Unfortunately there was not quite enough time to discuss the following points
which will very soon be thoroughly attended to by the FIP Maximaphily
Commission Bureau:
- Maximum-cards with personalised stamps, "tabs" or perfins.
- Creation of the FIP Maximaphily Commission website.
- Official regulations for the "World Best Maximum Card Competition"
- Maximaphily collection evaluation by non-qualified jury members in
national and international exhibitions.
- How to spread Maximaphily in African and Asian countries, in the United
Kingdom and other northern countries.
- Maximum-cards created by certain postal administrations without
conforming to the FIP regulations (Dorin: How dare they? It's illegal! :shock: )
.
- Degree of recognition by the official authorities of world philately."

http://maximaphily.info/Articles/Maxifr ... rsion_.pdf

While I respect, admire and envy the great accomplishments of the traditional school of maximaphily, of which I am a member, too, thru (shorter than through... :D )MACSU, I decided that I should focus on a different approach.

I call this freestyle maximaphily, which is not as self-explanatory as I thought, apparently. So: there are no more strict rules for you, the collector, especially if you are not interested in exhibiting according to their rules.
There are only guidelines, recommendations, suggestions, and you are free to philatelically express yourself pretty much any way you want. Especially if you do it for your own enjoyment of the hobby, and not necessarily to plea$e other$.

Since the volunteer law enforcement officers of the Traditional Maximaphily Police will vehemently tell you that you can't do that, then you could use a different name for your freestyle maximum cards.
I use the term Dorincards (or dorincards, eventually), an invented word, just like Lego or iPod are. Who's to stop me, or you, from that? And why?

Freestyle maximaphily is an expansion of the traditional one, so any traditional MC is also a dorincard, in my personal view (which I am not imposing on anybody else). But a dorincard may be any self-made, self-printed postcard, without "the 75% picture rule", with many options for stamp(s) (allows a personalized one). etc.

If somebody reading this agrees, great!
If not, no problem! Continue to let somebody else DICTATE you what and what not, how and how not, and so on. Don't you dare to be creative. :cry: It's forbidden and illegal!

_________________
See cool personalized stamps at http://www.freewebs.com/dorinco
Visit http://www.squidoo.com/dorincard


Last edited by dorinco on Tue Sep 25, 2007 06:27:24 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 06:25:55 am 
Offline
GOLD Shooting Star Stampboards LEGEND!
GOLD Shooting Star Stampboards LEGEND!
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2007 03:15:22 am
Posts: 7703
Location: Columbus, Ohio. USA
Thanks for your insights. I used to have a lot of 1920s and 1930s ham-radio "QSL" (confirming station contact) cards, and those guys were highly creative with colors, fonts, illustrations, cartoons, radio-guy-insider jokes, etc. Not particularly related to maximum cards, but certainly creative to an extreme.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 06:32:40 am 
Offline
PLATINUM Star Mega Stamp Poster
PLATINUM Star Mega Stamp Poster
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2007 04:54:31 am
Posts: 452
Location: USA, Virginia
doug2222usa wrote:
Thanks for your insights. I used to have a lot of 1920s and 1930s ham-radio "QSL" (confirming station contact) cards, and those guys were highly creative with colors, fonts, illustrations, cartoons, radio-guy-insider jokes, etc. Not particularly related to maximum cards, but certainly creative to an extreme.


Doug, I would defnitely welcome those QSLs under the large, generous tent of freestyle maximaphily. A recent ATA article agreed that they are a neglected source of interesting philatelic items.

See my edit to the top of the previous post, while you were writing.

_________________
See cool personalized stamps at http://www.freewebs.com/dorinco
Visit http://www.squidoo.com/dorincard


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 21:04:26 pm 
Offline
I was online for our Birthday Number 5!
I was online for our Birthday Number 5!
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 01, 2007 02:10:49 am
Posts: 25416
Location: West Coast of England
Dorinco,

That's a VERY well reasoned and written argument you put forward there. From now on, I shall count myself as a collector of Dorincards and NOT Maximumcards.

Gavin


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Thank you!
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:15:40 am 
Offline
PLATINUM Star Mega Stamp Poster
PLATINUM Star Mega Stamp Poster
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2007 04:54:31 am
Posts: 452
Location: USA, Virginia
gavin-h wrote:
Dorinco,

That's a VERY well reasoned and written argument you put forward there. From now on, I shall count myself as a collector of Dorincards and NOT Maximumcards.

Gavin


Thank you, Gavin!

I appreciate your open-mindedness. Not everybody has it...

_________________
See cool personalized stamps at http://www.freewebs.com/dorinco
Visit http://www.squidoo.com/dorincard


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 01:56:35 am 
Offline
AQUA Shooting Star Board ADDICT!
AQUA Shooting Star Board ADDICT!
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2007 21:56:23 pm
Posts: 549
Location: Leicestershire, UK
I think that one of the things about maximum cards is the originality angle - and I do agree that perhaps the rules are a little too rigid. However when comparing exhibits in a competition there has to be a method that compares "like" with "like", and so some parameters have to be set.

Perhaps there needs to be some "new classes" introduced to expand the concepts - perhaps non-competitive initially until some sort of concensus can be reached about the limits of each class.

As I said before I would never have the patience ( or the time ) to get involved in this, but I think it one of the best "spectator sports " of philately - much more interesting to us "lesser mortals" then looking at 200 sheets of Oz KG5 sidefaces ( with all due respect to Glen and others ).

To get philately to the masses we need much more of this sort of thing - where even the philatelically uninvolved can perhaps "get the point".

Malcolm


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 02:25:09 am 
Offline
PLATINUM Star Mega Stamp Poster
PLATINUM Star Mega Stamp Poster
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2007 04:54:31 am
Posts: 452
Location: USA, Virginia
Malcolm, I agree with you. A lot.

I think it's much more interesting to move from the passive status (simply collecting what others have created) to the active one (where you can create your own postally valid items, or even your own cinderellas).

The only problem you will have if you create, let's say, non-traditional maximum cards, is that some ultra-orthodox lookers, potential buyers and exhibition jurors would not accept their merit, because your cards don't obey The Rules. :roll:

Once you decide that this is not a big deal, you will create freely, despite any naysayer (I could use much harsher words).
:D

_________________
See cool personalized stamps at http://www.freewebs.com/dorinco
Visit http://www.squidoo.com/dorincard


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 03:45:16 am 
Offline
Suspended Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 18, 2007 14:21:59 pm
Posts: 294
Location: Pasadena, California, USA
Here are a few of mine, that could be called Dorincards:

Image

Image

Image

Image

More at http://www.mcgees.org/postalcancel/postalcancelintro.shtml.[/img]


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Excellent, Josh!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:53:03 am 
Offline
PLATINUM Star Mega Stamp Poster
PLATINUM Star Mega Stamp Poster
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2007 04:54:31 am
Posts: 452
Location: USA, Virginia
I have seen long ago your website, Josh, and I have greatly enjoyed your philatelic creations. Very interesting, original and informative. And occasionally "un-orthodox" :wink: .

Those postmarks can give us clues about where to send for similar cancels, next time around, if possible!

Can you believe that the FIP Commission of Maximaphily says:

"In general, abstract or symbolic subjects do not suit Maximaphily and are excluded
from its field." :shock:

They are excluding exactly the most intellectually brilliant aspect of your creativity.

Anybody can go for a simple, plain subject concordance: stamp/card/postmark. No superior intelligence necessary, to put it bluntly. An average one is enough. Dog/dog/dog, for example. What you see is what you get, WYSIWYG. Simple.

But to create an abstract, symbolic, ideatic, philosophical, conceptual, cryptic, metaphoric, ironic, sarcastic, (mensa) puzzling or other intellectually thought-provoking FMC (freestyle MC= dorincard, or whatever you want to call it)- now THAT requires at least an above-average intelligence, going as high up as you can.

_________________
See cool personalized stamps at http://www.freewebs.com/dorinco
Visit http://www.squidoo.com/dorincard


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 20:48:03 pm 
Offline
Suspended Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 18, 2007 14:21:59 pm
Posts: 294
Location: Pasadena, California, USA
Those are great, dorinco!

Also, I never took a moment to acknowledge and thank you for your descriptions of my work as brilliant and creative. So, thank you! And sorry for the delay.

The best place I know to look for US pictorial cancellations is the biweekly USPS Postal Bulletin. Haven't checked if there are any Dracula ones yet!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 21:51:08 pm 
Offline
PLATINUM Shooting Star Stampboard LEGEND
PLATINUM Shooting Star Stampboard LEGEND
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 06, 2005 20:24:58 pm
Posts: 12549
Location: A bar somewhere near you ....
Dorinco .. you need to choose the photobucket code link for BULLETIN BOARDS and post that please.

_________________
.
Click HERE to see superb, RARE and unusual stamps, at FIXED low nett prices, high rez photos, and NO buyer fees etc!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 00:48:53 am 
Offline
PLATINUM Star Mega Stamp Poster
PLATINUM Star Mega Stamp Poster
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2007 04:54:31 am
Posts: 452
Location: USA, Virginia
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image

_________________
See cool personalized stamps at http://www.freewebs.com/dorinco
Visit http://www.squidoo.com/dorincard


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 00:51:42 am 
Offline
PLATINUM Star Mega Stamp Poster
PLATINUM Star Mega Stamp Poster
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2007 04:54:31 am
Posts: 452
Location: USA, Virginia
Quote:
You can edit your posts in this forum


Really? Where's the EDIT button?.........

_________________
See cool personalized stamps at http://www.freewebs.com/dorinco
Visit http://www.squidoo.com/dorincard


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 00:54:00 am 
Offline
PLATINUM Star Mega Stamp Poster
PLATINUM Star Mega Stamp Poster
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2007 04:54:31 am
Posts: 452
Location: USA, Virginia
clanmackay wrote:
Those are great, dorinco!

Also, I never took a moment to acknowledge and thank you for your descriptions of my work as brilliant and creative. So, thank you! And sorry for the delay.

The best place I know to look for US pictorial cancellations is the biweekly USPS Postal Bulletin. Haven't checked if there are any Dracula ones yet!


I prefer that USPS Bulletin, too. :D

_________________
See cool personalized stamps at http://www.freewebs.com/dorinco
Visit http://www.squidoo.com/dorincard


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 09:49:19 am 
Offline
Green Star Less Than 10 Posts Member
Green Star Less Than 10 Posts Member

Joined: Thu Feb 14, 2008 09:06:34 am
Posts: 5
Location: Northern California
I'm most gratified to see dorinco's treatise on "freestyling" maxicards. I only recently discovered there were set rules and restrictions--which, for me, takes a lot of the fun out of it!

I've just started a blog (http://filmatelist.blogspot.com/) on my maximum card collecting--all concentrating on film-related material (either the stamp, the card, or both). I'd love to get any feedback, suggestions, or comments and look forward to visiting some of the sites posted in this thread in particular to get ideas and inspiration.

Much thanks!

SH


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 492 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 10  Next

All times are UTC + 10 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: AndrewWalker, CHzug1291 and 8 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


A powerful Google Custom Search Engine for JUST This Site

 

 

Loading
 
          

Click For Our Newest Issues

Click for our Current Auction

Internet Auctions-Buy & Sell Stamps

Melbourne 2013 - May 10-15

        

 
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
[ Time : 0.328s | 15 Queries | GZIP : On ]