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The 10r stamp shown on the back of the postcard posted by mikreg is the "worker." The other values in the set, 50r, 70r and 100r, are the "soldier."

A clich

soldier and worken = the set. Your right. Was a mistake by tipping fast.
Yesterday read all your post maptrekker, now i can see all the info. Thanks for your answer.

Finally found an image about that.



Now looking for a corrected cliché.

Question time again

These were in a larger lot I received last week:





I cannot see anything wrong with them

I still don't feel comfortable enough with these overprint issues to offer an opinion, but I do know this is why many North American's do not want anything to do with sending material overseas for expertization!!

Those imprints on the back make any discussion about authenticity a bit more difficult, now don't they?? But of course, as we've seen many times here on Stampboards.......expertizers do not make mistakes!!

If I have time, I'll pull out some of my other material to try and match them up.

John A

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Looks like this sheet is for sale on Delcampe.....
Vasia - please let me know where did you find those images.....

Hello Andrew,

I am afraid I don't remember exactly. I have it on file since around 2008 (as per the image details), probably from one of the Cherrystone auctions. I'll make an effort to locate the specific auction.

Can you provide a link to the Delcampe item?

Found the source of my archived image: Raritan auction #34 (March 5-6, 2008), lot 700.

http://www.raritanstamps.com/Catold/Old ... php3?MA=34

http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/id,01 ... age,E.html


buyer did not paid for sure....

Thank you !!! (handshake)

Interesting "bidding" on that "lot" of a zero feedback seller.

One bidder ("Victor74"), who seems to be raising every bid that is placed above 100 Euros, is a newly registered user (registered 27/3) from the seller's home country! Definite shill-bidding here! Another bidder ("Epolenep") has a feedback score of 1 and places bids in the 3.500 to 4.500 Euros range! The winner is a high-volume buyer of Russian material - I hope he is very cautious with this "lot".

Notice that the seller ("Solloaffari24") has several additional Russian "lots" of rarities on offer in Delcampe, incuding pairs of the imperf airs, C12b and C13b! The same bidders seem to be involved in the "bidding war" on these lots.

I will send an e-mail to Sebastian Delcampe who is a member of the Board.

Hi Vasia, Hi all,

I'm Miranda, working for Delcampe.net

We will check what has happened with this sale.

Thanks for the update.

Kind regards,
Miranda from Delcampe.

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Thanks Miranda - great to see unlike ebay, that Delcampe is serious about shill bidding and fake stamps being offered!

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Thank you, Miranda, for the quick response!

Andrew (AFStamps),

instead of going around in circles, you should have mentioned here that you were the high bidder on that lot ("Andrey"). It also surprises me why you are bidding on a number of other Russian "rarities" lots being offered by the same seller, since you are suspicious about the actual items being offered and given the behavior of some of your competitors!

http://stamps.delcampe.net/page/item/id ... age,E.html
http://stamps.delcampe.net/page/item/id ... age,E.html
http://stamps.delcampe.net/page/item/id ... age,E.html
http://stamps.delcampe.net/page/item/id ... age,E.html

Because I know what I am doing - it is better for the other collectors if I will placed the higher bid and prevent other from loosing money. I did the same with quite of numbers of similar sellers on Delkampe auctions.

Delkampe bidders are not secured the same way as Ebay bidders from such sellers.

In my opinion, you should have tried a more direct approach. Delcampe has always exhibited a more personalized approach to handling complaints and problems of that nature. Sebastian Delcampe is even a member of this Board. Their quick response to the e-mail I sent them is a sign in that direction.

Your alternative approach leaves much to be desired and can lead to misunderstandings by third parties (for example, members of this Board), given the nature of some of the feedbacks you have received on Delcampe such as the following:

"Si vous ne voulez pas connaitre ma mesaventure mettez andrey farberov en liste noire de toute urgence."
"Andrey a substitue mes timbres aux siens (ceux retournés ne correpondent pas au scan de ceux qu il a acheté.Maintenant il feint l indignation.Une plaie déjà pour de nombreux vendeurs."

The way I see it, in this world of growing deception, philatelists do not need additional confusion!

It is up to you.

I will continue to bid high on questionable items or on items from questionable sellers to prevent my friends or colleagues or partners from costly mistakes.

There is growing numbers of sellers on Delkampe who is selling somebody's scans instead of real stamps. Delkampe can not react fast enough on some of them (credit can be given on closure of multiple accounts of one seller from Netherlands/Germany), so I will.

....and the logical result:
"For security reasons we have decided to close the account of “Soloaffari24”.
We see that you were the winner of this sale.....
Please do not send money for this item even though the seller contacts you to do so."

Hi,

Thanks again for reporting this case to us.
Delcampe is a community where we pay close attention to honesty, this is the reason why we have closed this member account, as advised by AFStamps.

It is really important for us to report us such transactions because it enables us to react quickly (by closing a member account if necessary).

Do not hesitate to contact us if a similar situation arises.

Thanks again,

Miranda

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Thank you, Miranda and give our best to Sebastian! In the case of Delcampe direct communication with the admnistrators is working!

It is also to the credit of this Board that it helps to unmask such individuals as "Soloaffari24" or his partner in crime "Victor74" (two accounts closed by Delcampe).

I hope I can put this into this thread to keep it going.

SG1



The question I have is, why is there such a different in value between a pen cancel, one with a pen cancel and postmark and postmark. I can't find any information anywhere.

Thanks

Here's one I found.
Seems to be a complete doubling in the left hand image


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Hi
Can anyone help me with the errors found on 5k stamp on the right. The upper portion of the right thunderbolt is missing. The stamp has three breaks in the right outer frame and there is a break in the left upper corner of the inner frame.
Is there a website where I can obtain further information with regards to these errors.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Neophyte

Neophyte,

I have been a collector of Russia for 20 or so years, but I have not seen a comprehensive source in the English language dealing with the plate flaws of the 1909-1922 Arms issue on wove paper. There have been occassional articles dealing with specific values, such as the following 1980 article of the Rossica Journal on the plate flaws of the 35k, 70k, 3.5R and 7R values:

http://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00020235/00050/91j

I do not know if there exists something similar for the 5k value that would allow you to decide whether the flaws that you show here are consistent ones.

Hi Vasia
I have been reading through the Rossica journals and have found flaws pertaining to the 7k but the 5k has limited reading material.
Thanks for your feedback, I will however continue to try research this error.
Neophyte

Morning Vasia
Continued to search for the plate flaws on the 5k 1909-1922 Arms issue. Sent requests for assistance all over the world, after I could not find any literature with regards to these specific flaws.
Rossica finally emailed me yesterday informing me that they have found this to be a constant variety found in position 46 on a sheet of 100. It is unlisted and that they will publish their finding in the Rossica journal to obtain further information from fellow collectors.
I must just thank all the Professionals on Stampboards for constantly giving of their time and sharing their knowledge with us, without you guys we would have no idea as to what we should be looking for.
This is going to be a very exciting journery.
Kind Regards
Neophyte

neophyte,

thank you for the update and congratulations on your find! If it is possible, please post a large scan of the stamp in question here, so that the details of the flaws can become more evident.

Hi Vasia
Hope this image helps.
Not wonderful scan quality.
Thanks
Neophyte

That scan works well. Thank you for posting it.

John A

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My pleasure John

The following Russian postal history has me asking if these are common items or is there anything significant about them. I'm not familiar with mail from the late 1940's to late 1950's from Russian regions, so I thought I'd post a couple and ask for advice. I am leaning towards these being general mailings, but thought someone may see something different.









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The difference in value is determined by the popularity of postmarked copies, in comparison to pen cancelled ones. Collectors prefer the postmarked, as they look more official and when the strike is clear enough, you can trace back the town or place where the stamp has been used. You obviosuly can't do this with a 'only pen cancellled' stamp . Determining the place of usage has always been a great sport among Russian collectors.

The pen cancellation was a temporary measure edicted during the first few weeks of issue, that is mainly january 1858. Actually, because of the limited time validity of pen cancellations, pen cancelled copies are slightly scarcer than postmarked ones. At least I find them slightly less often offered in auctions. But they have been also extensively washed off by both users (for postal fraud -- which partially led the Imperial Postal Department to enforce the usage of pre-adhesive postmarks, and later new standard postmarks) and by collectors: the vast majority of 'unused' copies of Russia #1 are actually pen washed copies.

In my experience the catalogue values reflects the popularity value, rather than the actual scarcity value. For instance, pen cancelled (only) copies on covers are more difficult to get than postmarked copies. And this is even more difficult to find a Russia #2 pen cancelled on cover.

The pen cancellation almost always consists of a cross, like your copy illustrated above; more scarce are the copies with only one line, and even rarer the unusual handwriting cancels (name of city written or of the postal clerk written by hand, etc.).

The study of postmarks applied in Russia #1 goes beyond this thread, and no definitive (comprehensive) list has yet been published. But I am working on it.

Hope that it helps,

Maxime

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This seems as good a place as any to drop this one.
Small cover, lots of hand stamps.
Is this the equivalent of a meter?
Could someone translate the slogan for me? I got the Moscow G-200 (District 200)?



Thanks,
patg

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"City ('Gorod') Moscow G-200
Street Smolenskaïa Cennaïa 32-34
Soviet Company
International Book"

Maxime

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It does not seem to be a slogan, it is the address and the company's name:
"Международная книга" = Mezhdunarodnaya Kniga literally means International Book (was a state run firm to sell stamps and books abroad, founded in 1923) while "Всесоюзная" means all-Union (dealing with the whole of the USSR), "объединение" here means corporation. Above the company's name in smaller print is their location (street name and house #). Lower slanting is a postal imprint: 'International'.

Thankyou Maxime for your answer. You actually went the extra mile and gave me way more than I expected. So thankyou.

I have another question if possible? My scanner is not working at the moment so I cannot upload any photos. But why is it that 1935 mint or MUH stamps in Russia are so expensive?

cheers Bryn

You're welcome Bryn. The market of early Soviet issues has been on the rise since the 90s, and has exploded since the mid-2000s. For now, it has reached a kind of plateau, the prices finding more 'common sense' (with some exceptions, of course).

In the 60s and 70s you could get a Soviet Classic collection for almost nothing. I remember wandering over my grandfather's specialized RSFSR albums, loaded with inverted overprints, inflation covers and the like. He didn't compromised his wedding for it Nowadays such collection could fetch 50 times more. The boom in Russian economy, coupled with the generally high level education of Russian fellows, has brought many new customers on the Russian market. As a stamp dealer, I can say that probably 40% to 50% of my customers are Russian.

Now regarding the 1935 issues... Let's take the Spartakiade set as an example. Those stamps are NOT rare. But there is a HIGH demand on them. So the demand is slightly higher than the offer, and is boosting the price up. Simply law of market. The same happens with some standard issues of PCR. Some of those collectors or investors have deep pockets and an aggreesive attitude.

A 1935 Spartakiade set MOG can easily fetch 250us$, and MNH you can triple that price. A complete set in block of four (very rare as such) would fetch the 10.000u$.

Actually, many pre-WWII Soviet stamps are much scarcer on COVERS than MNH. But you have to know which ones are scarcer (ok, I'll be generous and give you one tip : the Spartakiade set is 'not so easy', ahem, to get on cover as well ).

Maxime

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Maxime & tweedledee:
Thank you for your replies. I found it in a big box of stuff and it looked interesting. Of course the multitude of hand stamps and Cyrillic script (not having a clue what was said) added to the appeal. I will add it to my "interesting" cover collection.

Best to you,
patg

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