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A cover I find quite interesting as it reflects the circumstances of the time, 1946 "Don't Waste Bread, Others need it"...

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I've always liked the NZ health covers myself - proceeds went to worthy cause.

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This one I was in awe of, when I loaded it up on my rarity page recently.

Imagine what airports were like in these places pre-WW2!

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Australia 1939 Round Australia flight: The Gordon Elliot flight where only TWELVE covers were carried - as confirmed in Eustis. A superb looking fresh example as you can see, and signed by the pilot.

On reverse he has written the entire route and dates in pencil showing the 27 stops! Remote stops like Avon Downs, Newcastle Waters, Broome, Ceduna and Nhill in a tiny plane must have been an adventure in this pre-war flight. You may wait a generation to see another example offered. Eustis 879c. $A250

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I like this cover for it's haunting stare.

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Stamper,

Speaking of NZ & covers - here's a well travelled FFC - Sydney, Auckland, Kaitaia, Moresby, Salamaua, Bulolo! 8)

(Apologies for the digital camera quality!) :cry:

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That's a great cover . Mine are a bit more tone spotty than yours :| But despite that I still like the old Health and multiple franked air covers ,as they show the enthusiasm of collecting in that era.

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Nothing quite like these old stamps just posted as general usage. ( The very early NZ Health First Day ones are too rare for my budget though. )


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Lakatoi needs to get a scanner. ;)

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Ha .. you want early 1930's Airs ..... :)

I sold this last week. The "OS" 6d and the FIVE PENCE KGV overprint are incredibly rare on ANY cover, but TOGETHER!! ..............

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Australia - quite amazing franking on 1931 First Flight "Crash Mail" Cover to UK: An attractive Registered cover, in quite exceptional overall condition for these anyway .... they are now well over 75 years old of course, and survived a crash that literally destroyed the tiny plane. The printed red map on the back is fascinating, showing the plane routing.

24 stops is hard for us to believe in these days of one-stop 747 flights to London! Romantic stopover town names like Longreach, Wyndham, Batavia, Rangoon, Karachi, Bushire, Baghdad, Athens and Lyons. Has the special PO violet handstamp in SW corner, and a range of backstamps on reverse as you can see.

Exotic franking I simply could not believe. The 1930 5d "FIVE PENCE" on 4½d KGV surcharge - which is almost never seen on any kind of cover, and is Cat $200 on cover by ACSC. If that was not enough, it also has a joined pair of the scarce 6d brown Kingsford Smith "OS" overprint. That is incredibly scarce on any kind of cover = ACSC $250 on cover for a single stamp! This is also stated to be First Day Issue for the 6d in Abbotsford - Nov 19.

The 6d "OS" is not common even used OFF cover. This was the very first "OS" overprint ever to be to be sold to the public. Prior to then, they were strictly for Government mail, and use by the public was illegal, and purchasing by the public of ANY mint "OS" stamp was simply not possible.

This was one of smallest issues EVER by the Commonwealth Of Australia - almost identical to the rare 5/- 1932 Sydney Harbour Bridge and way less than the high value Kangaroos. Only 75,000 x 6d were sold - mostly mint, and most of those to collectors who retained them mint in blocks. I can't think when the last time I saw one on cover - much less a FU PAIR! $A400



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What a Brilliant cover ozstamps. And you SOLD it :shock: . I'm sure the new owner will treasure it though. Great back franks too.
Yes some covers really have a story to tell so great to see these ones on this site.


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Here's one that shows the cover enthusiast of the 1960's at work - almost as many stamps as you can fit on a cover from the aptly named "Ocean Island" :)

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To compensate here is a nice registered cover from Paris.. (1962 of course) :D

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You have changed your avatar to a ..........3/- PNG cop.... I have finally got someone to realise the power of the good side of the force!! :twisted:

P.S. Nice cover (a bit girly for me though!!) :wink:

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Hi Guest ( Or is it Peter Lurking in the shadows ) That Cover from Gilbert Isl to Sth Africa was stamped in such an interesting way that the recipient was bound to keep it.

A great way to get collectors started. O and I like the girly one too.

Here is an interesting one of mine ( Health/air combo ) . What I like is The Address . Ahhhhh weren't things simple back in 1931.


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You have changed your avatar to a ..........3/- PNG cop.... I have finally got someone to realise the power of the good side of the force!!


Yes, I decided to change my look and the 3/- Cop seemed appropriate because:

a) Way back when I was 5 years old I started collecting when Grandma let me keep the stamps from letters she got from a friend in PNG who was a missionary (I've collected PNG ever since);

b) I also collect 1962 and this stamp is a classic from that year; and

c) In my real (non-stamp) life I work for the "green police" ie the Environment Protection Authority.

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Stamper, that Air / Health combo is very nice - presumably relatively scarce with the red boy included?

Oh for simpler times - I sent a parcel to a buyer in Shanghai recently - something like six lines to the address to find Mr Wu :lol:

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Hi petercollects

Yes I can imagine a name like Mr Wu would be common like our Mr Smith. So a detailed address would be required incase the postman got it Wong.

That Red boy on the envelope is not special at all because it is Not first day franking and it was paired up with air mail. I just was collecting Health/Air combos and that fitted in nicely.


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Stamper .. don't sell it short.

I'd put $A200 on that cover and it would sell in a week. :idea:

Smiling Boys are THE most popular NZ 20th Century issue by a long way.

I have a Boomerang air cover here with one of each on each value plus other stamps and that will be $400 or so when I get around to listing it on my Rarity page. $50 without them.

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Now here's a boomerang NZ cover of mine that's a trifle interesting:

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Notice who it's addressed to! 8)

Also, there were only 500 of these souvenir covers issued - the first 400 plus were all signed by C.T.P. Ulm & crew - and yet this one isn't? :shock:

Can anyone tell me why? (my theory is that it was a tad tacky to send a signed souvenir cover to the Deputy Director of Posts & Telegraphs):?

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Here's a mixed Australia / Aussie states cover from 1934.

Was there any gazetted law about using state stamps 20 odd years after federation?


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Was there any gazetted law about using state stamps 20 odd years after federation?


:idea: I seem to remember seeing a post on another thread saying all £sd Oz stamps including States were valid for postage until decimalisation in '66...

...had a quick look, but couldn't find it tho'... :roll:


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Thanks enyway Gavin, I'll chase it up somehow. :)


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I knew I had one somewhere!

Saw Glen's 1930 five pence o/print on 4 1/2p and I had to find mine! :)

No where near as pretty: :cry:

stamps sideways AND upside down ...... why would anyone do that? :x :x

Still, until this one, I'd never seen a 3d airmail plate block #1 on cover .... but then again, I dont have anywhere near the experience of some of the experts on this forum! 8)

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Interesting cover there browny. You would think that the sender of a letter addressed to a philatelist in London, would have taken more care with stamp placement. I guess he was just in a hurry to place a stamp order. I think the usage covers like that one are often more interesting that the CTO ones.


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Browny wrote:
stamps sideways AND upside down ...... why would anyone do that? :x :x



Looks fine when you view it from England :lol:


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Was there any gazetted law about using state stamps 20 odd years after federation?


:idea: I seem to remember seeing a post on another thread saying all £sd Oz stamps including States were valid for postage until decimalisation in '66...

...had a quick look, but couldn't find it tho'... :roll:


Actually until 1968 it was OK IIRC to use State and pre-dec issues.

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Here is one I just added to my Rarity page and it sold within 24 hours. My long outline on the history behind this most unusual and rare issue may interest some! :)

http://www.glenstephens.com/rarity.html

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1930 Lord Howe Island Provisional Manuscript Overprint - on Cover: In over 25 years of dealing I have never owned or offered one of these famous items. The Postmaster on tiny LHI had a shortage of 2d stamps when the latter rate increased at short notice in late July 1930 to 2d. He telegrammed Sydney GPO to ask what to do, and was advised by telegram to : "use 1½d stamps with endorsement - 2d Paid PM LHI".

So the PM took his entire stock of 260 Sturt 1½d commemoratives, (SG #117) and wrote in black ink pen across each one as instructed, and went ahead and used them up on mail. At this time only an average 80 mail articles a month left the remote island, which is 702 km north east of Sydney, and 1000 km SW of Norfolk Island. The stamp is tied by "Lord Howe Island OC 3 : 1930 N.S.W" with an additional strike alongside. By the rough strikes of the cancels and the address, this cover appears to be non-philatelic.

This course is NOT what Sydney GPO had envisaged - they assumed he would write the endorsement on the cover to one side, and AWAY from the stamps, but the Telegram was explicit ..... albeit ambiguous.

The PMG Department HQ in Melbourne was unaware of these provisional "overprints" for some months, which had franked LHI outward mail in August, September and early October. When they discovered it, they over-rode the earlier authority, but the PM Mr Fenton was neither officially criticised or reprimanded at any time, as he had acted in good faith. This is a genuine commercial cover to the Burns Philp Trading Company. Dr Bill Mayo's LHI philatelic book states most of the few recorded covers are addressed locally to LHI.

The very few covers I have seen illustrated in sale cats looks ratty and/or toned. This one is quite PRISTINE for 77 years old - as you can see. SG and ACSC have always listed and priced this rare provisional. SG says it is Cat £650 mint or used = $A1,625. Any commercial COVER used in this era is rare - franked with any issue.

SG Says on cover prices for SG 117-125 are "From 10 x " so this one is theoretically rated "From $A16,250". A lovely item, in condition that would delight even the MOST fastidious of buyers.

Gold Medal exhibit material stuff, or one for the super fund. $A1,600

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A pair of CTO/"philatelic" covers for Grossraschen, Germany, 1945. This was one of the local issues prevalent in the Soviet Zone in the immediate post-war period.

This is the second issue from this town - the first issue had the values hand-written!

The 20pf stamp (top cover; top right) shows a variety in that the crossed-hammers are a different type.

Postally used examples are very difficult to find (even philatelic examples are not easy!)

Note, these are NOT "Cinderellas", as they would have been valid for postal use throughout the Soviet Zone (even though Stanley Gibbons dismisses them with a wave of its corporate arm, Michel lists them in detail).


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Great to see all these Postal history items.

Glen that is a great read on the Hand Done O/P and Lakatoi I droool over your boomerang cover as is one I don't have yet.

That 1945 cover would be a rarity gavin.

Here is an interesting one from The NZ Auck Exhibition in 1913.

These stamps were ONLY to be used for NZ or Aussie Postage.

The sender snuck this one out to Malta.


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Nice NZ cover. And valuable I am sure.

What a SHAME about the sender flap address .. would likely pass as a commercial cover otherwise! :)

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Found this while rummaging through my stuff. I guess 2 cents was a lot back then to send from Ottawa, Canada to Florida, USA.


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1938 official stamps used on a 1962 cover? Or was this meant for a museum of antiquities?

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This is the back of the cover.

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Wish the Arabic cancellations were clearer. They look kind of interesting.


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Wow that Egypt cover might be worth more than it looks on first glance? Nice item. :)

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Thanks Glen,

I find that Egyptian cover kind of fascinating.


What do you make of this one?

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Not nearly as interesting as the Egypt. :)

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Nothing actually spectacular, except if you like the stamps upside down. Garvin-h will see it upside down as Malaysia is just north of the Equator.

This letter was sent to me by my uncle in Singapore just after I graduated from Universiti Malaya ( to explain the B. Econ. Hons).

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There are three cancellations on the behind of the envelope.

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Hi, Andrew!

Ha, ha - you're right about seeing it upside down - but I only saw the stamps upside down (envelope was the right way up). Maybe that's because of how near you are to the equator :?:

I liked the Austrian cover - there's quite a lot going on there: it's in the immediate Post-War occupation period - looks like 1947, with an Austrian censor mark and tape where it was opened by the censor. There is then a "deficiency in address" marking applied by the New York Post Office - International Services ("N.Y.P.O.-I.S."), and the address has been hand-completed (presumably by the NYPO) to show the correct state ("Mass" = "Massachusetts").

Not sure what the "R.H.S" at the top-right is - maybe someone else could chip in with that?


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Thanks for the info, Garvin-h. I just copied it on to a word document to keep with that cover. Didn't much care about covers until only of late when I realised that there may be a story behind every cover. Got almost all of these covers that I've posted on Stampboards from the USA under those "surprise cigar boxes", "nobody wants these" kind of thing - used to like surprises and I guess I am surprised. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Hi, Andrew,

Yes - it's amazing what you can find in what we call the "50 Pence Box" in England. Most dealers have got one, and as most Brit dealers specialise in GB or Commonwealth, there are some real "goodies" from foreign countries to be found.

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It's a pity they don't have these in Malaysia. I would probably be foraging through them. Getting them from overseas is a little harder especially with customs and heavy postage costs. Anyway I can't say I didn't have fun while it lasted.

Have a bunch of Machins - nothing of high value I guess - that I bought as kiloware - about £2 (finally mastered the £ symbol :lol: :lol: :lol: ) worth for 2 little bags full (on paper) when I was in London with my wife and kid, on route to Malaysia from the USA. I soaked them off while in London. This was at the end of 1982.


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Andrew, for an online "50 pence box", check out:

http://www.buckacover.com

They're based in Canada and postage is $3.00 US if you spend up to $50, or free if you spend more - and they always use good modern Canadian commemorative issues for postage.

You'll need plenty of time, because they've got thousands of covers in there...

...happy hunting :!: :!: :!:


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Thanks Garvin-h,

Went and took a look. Not bad for the kind of prices asked. Was looking at their postage dues - think this is one area I want to study more as Malaysia has a good number of these from the different states (before they become Malaysia), the Malayan Union and Malaysia. These are very hard to find on covers - almost impossible. Just asking around, most people do not even know it exists or seen a single one in their life times. So this looks more challenging.
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Here's a cover celebrating the fastest and biggest planes.
concorde was a magnificent looking plane.

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Nice cover :)

Shouldn't be long before Glen posts one he did for the last flight of Concorde :wink:

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Oooooh I hope so. I'd love to see it. We will wait until Glen steps from the shadows 8) and reveals it.
( reveals the last Concorde Flight cover I mean ) :mrgreen:


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Here's one for you (pretty tatty but it's registered and almost 50 years old! 8)

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Thanks Lakatoi 4,

Never imagined I would actually see a FDC of this stamp. I don't know whether I will even be able to find one of these (was 7 years old at that time). This sultan is still alive but you can imagine what 47 years will do to your appearance.

Thanks for the post, appreciate the nice gesture.

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Nice Malaya cover Lakatoi. The creases add interest that it is REAL usage . ( Others may prefer pristine )
But I really like looking at these 'busy' multiple stamped covers you guys are showing. :D


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petercollects0 wrote:

Shouldn't be long before Glen posts one he did for the last flight of Concorde :wink:


http://www.glenstephens.com/concorde.html

You asked for it!

Actually a new member of this very board bought the boarding passes, cover, pilots cards, bag tags, menus etc outlined in article above.

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IMPRESSIVE. GlenStephens

That is Soooooo cool

*closes her mouth to stop the drooling*


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