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Folks,

I think its always nice to see a nice block of stamps. What do people think the value of a block is compared to the sum of its parts?

Is a block of six like this second watermark 1/- worth six times a single or does it increase in value?

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Folks,

Here is another example. A very attractive block of six halfpenny stamps Perf Small OS. Not all that expensive but a pleasure to look at I think.

It cost me $60 bargain or not?

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Folks,

This time we have a mint block of 6 of penny red roos. I prefer them used but this one also has great eye appeal.

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Usually, like everything else, it depends on the stamps. Modern blocks are certainly not worth any premium at all. Many earlier multiples can be worth huge premiums over singles, and in a number of cases, the premium cannot be known unless the block actually comes onto the market.

I doubt that the Penny Red Roo you have illustrated would carry a premium, as I suspect that they are fairly common. Your OS block also has considerable foxing as well, but it is a nice multiple.

As far as the 1/- Roo, unfortunately I suspect that it is not postally used - and that it was actually used to pay a telephone account, and would be discounted because of that. It is really a gorgeous multiple though, with nice non postal (I suspect) strikes.

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In the true Classics, blocks carry an enormous premium. Take a look at German States and 1870s Germany in the Michel Specialized Catalog. Brazil, Italy, and Scandinavia are a few others that come to mind. Big bucks!


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Folks,

Here is another nice 1d Kangaroo block. Its die 2 Perf OS.

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I agree with your comments. The shilling block is definately not philatelic. Still pretty though.

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I showed some of these before but will show them again, i just love blocks of old victorian stamps, these are the QV 1d penny red plates sg43, 1858, there is some reinforcing & splitting to them but it is almost impossible to get these blocks without it.
I have a few more blocks of 4 & 6 but haven't got them scaned. Also have a few nice blocks of BC.

PLATE 208 block of 56
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Here is another nice 1d Kangaroo block. Its die 2 Perf OS.

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Tim,

Lovely block. I guess you realise it is a No Monogram block? :D

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Great stuff - I especially like the penny reds as I have a fondness for old items.

I don't have too many old blocks in my collection, but here's an inscription block from Canada's Large Queen issue:

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Peter,

I did realise that but I am not exactly sure what a no monogram block is? I do know that they are very collectable.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Didge,

We have another thread which shows multiples of stamps you might want to check out.

http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=3786

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I did realise that but I am not exactly sure what a no monogram block is? I do know that they are very collectable.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Tim,

The roos were printed in large sheets of 240, with the upper panes (120 stamps, 2 x 60 stamps) not having any monograms.

Initiallt the uncut sheets of 249 were issued to Post Offices.

These sheets proves unweildy at the post office and were soon cut into the normal sheets of 120 (as your block has been).

Subsequently, Monograms were inserted into the upper sheets (distinguished by cutting away of the jubilee line to make room).

No Monogram blocks, being scarcer, are more valuable than Monogram blocks.

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A used block of four white wattles i suppose would attract a premium
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Gday folks - hope alls well

some lovely old blocks there folks

as per Didge's question - not sure how blocks etc affect the price but must admit I like seeing a good block, especially when they have attractive/interesting postmarks like Didge's

heres my one and only Roo block...
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Peter,

Thanks for that mate. Following on, when were the monograms inserted in the upper sheet? Is there any difference in value between inserted monograms and normal monograms? What is the premium for the no monogram blocks? Obviously no monogram singles would be very difficult to identify unless it happened to be a plated variety.

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Ripper cover mate. You are picking up some goodies.

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Kris .. that cover looks familar. ;)

The 1/- 2nd block I'd sell EASILY for $500 today. That one did not come from me, but oddly I sold a block 4 same wmk with same cancel last year.

Roo USED BLOCKS are incredibly under-priced.

I am pushing for ACSC to list and price EVERY oz stamp in used blocks 4 as most European catalogues do.

A $1 single stamp may well then be $100 in a used block 4 with a CORRECT date cancel. Buy ANYTHING you see in this field is my advice before ACSC lists them.

The single 5/- 2nd below i also sold recently is cancelled a few days apart from Tim's.

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Glen,

I thought it was such a nice thing. I paid a lot less than $500 for it even with the telephone cancel.

It would be great to see blocks catalogued.

There was a great collection of blocks in the Arthur Gray sale that would have been a very smart buy.

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That no monogram block catalogues $650 for the no-imprint strip of 3. It is ACSC 3(E)z.

As well, that cat value is for the normal stamps. The large OS perfin is worth 5 times the normal.

That's one hugely rare and quite valuable block.

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Greg - agree .. Tim may not have realised the value of that one. :)

Tim .. the VERY few blocks offered singly in Gray got huge prices.

The "remainder" lot (last lot of sale IIRC) I was under-bidder on in NY as it did have some nice used blocks. IIRC it sold for about $A50,000!

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Glen,

Do you have a brain like a computer? You must to be able to remember as much as you do about dates on stamps you have sold ect.

I did not have any idea that the block was worth that sort of $$$. I certainly did not pay anything like that for it.

It is muh but has a few faults but still a good buy by the sound of it.

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Kris .. that cover looks familar.

- yep, I think youve seen that one before Glen!

Would have another cover to post but seems its delivery was too hard for Aus Post - even when it was registered... grrrr

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Good luck more that being clever but it was a nice looking thing so I brought it.

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I showed some of these before but will show them again, i just love blocks of old victorian stamps, these are the QV 1d penny red plates sg43, 1858, there is some reinforcing & splitting to them but it is almost impossible to get these blocks without it.
I have a few more blocks of 4 & 6 but haven't got them scaned. Also have a few nice blocks of BC.

PLATE 208 block of 56
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PLATE 148 block of 56
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PLATE 90 block of 48
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PLATE 100 block of 4
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PLATE 190 block of 4
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PLATE 220 block of 4
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PLATE 195 block of 12
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Whats your address?, do you have an alarm? and when are you not at home as i want to visit.

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Spectacular items there. The English ones look stunning and how good are those 1d Green George V's?

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Just to add a few Classic Canada Jubilee issues to your block thread.................
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A little bit of Northern Exposure and all........

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While I'm at it, here is a small variety that just seemed to appear in a purchase a few months ago. This is SG 171variety - Unitrade 87ii Narrow spacing variety. Notice the right overprint is closer to the left side margin than the left overprint. The regular overprints are 7 mm apart, but this block shows the 4mm variety on both pairs.
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While I'm at it, here is a small variety that just seemed to appear in a purchase a few months ago. This is SG 171variety - Unitrade 87ii Narrow spacing variety. Notice the right overprint is closer to the left side margin than the left overprint. The regular overprints are 7 mm apart, but this block shows the 4mm variety on both pairs.
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The best thing about blocks is the assistance they can provide
in plating flaws. I was recently able to plate the only unlocated
flaw listed in Guidi's study of the 2d die 3- from one used block of 6.
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flaw listed in Guidi's study of the 2d die 3- from one used block of 6.
Sorry I can't show a scan.


OK, so I have my copy of Guidi open to page 55. What's the position of the unlocated flaw?

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One of my favourite stamp designs of all time.

Fresh MUH block on my rarity page right now. :)

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Another one I just loaded - POSTALLY used blocks 6 of this complete high value set .. at near face value!

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And a final set of blocks from my rarity page, I really love the look of.

Malaysia - Japanese Occupation 1944 "Red Cross Letter" Set of 3: The overprints on Straits Settlements.

If these were USED the price would be twice as much!

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1L15.

My block, perf. O.S. is 1L13-15; 19-21. It took me ages to find the only other flaw on the block, 1L20, partly because one of the two dots, was taken out by an O.S. perf.

I'm quite happy to admit the chances of finding it in my only block are at least the equal of winning Lotto. Damn!

But the point I was making was that the chances of plating a block are greatly increased over a single.

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This is not, strictly speaking, a block. Rather is a nice, postally used, strip across the pane (all 6 stamps).

The nice thing about this strip? It is Dies I,II,II,I,I,I. :D

I found it in a collection (really an accumulation) of George V used multiples. Funnily enough, there was not much else of great value in the entire accumulation!

Luckily for me, nobody else spotted this strip!! :D :D :D

This is the entire strip

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And here is a closer view of the first 3 stamps.

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I am also a fan of blocks of Georges! This is one of the nicer ones in my collection!

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Large Multiple Watermark. Shame about only half the imprint being there, though :(

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Was scanning this today to load on my rarity page.

White paper Cattle and £2 Arms both in VFU postal used blocks 4.

I have been urging the ACSC Editor for years to list postally USED blocks for every issue - as they do in Europe.

When they DO these kind of things will likely double in value over today's levels.

Often a $20 stamp used is Cat $200 or $2,000 in block 4 in the Italy or Swiss Cats etc.

Simply because few exist. The higher the face value, the more likely that is to occur.

Can you imagine WHAT kind of parcel it took in 60 years ago to cost £8? That was more than a weekly wage. 8)

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What a great pair of blocks of four. They look stunning. What are you asking for them?

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Tim .. they'll be $175 .. not much more than 8 singles!

But wait until ACSC lists used BLOCKS!

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A bargain. I will take them if thats OK.

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The 5/- WHITE MUST have cancels of latter 1964 to qualify as white not cream paper - this has a lovely clear "proving" cds of "Sydney GPO 20 OC : 64". SG 327a. Both are clean superb used without faults.

The centering on the £2 is wonderful - MOST of this issue is poorly centred - nice "GPO Sydney 20 SE:50" cds.

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I think its always nice to see a nice block of stamps. What do people think the value of a block is compared to the sum of its parts? Is a block of six like this second watermark 1/- worth six times a single or does it increase in value?

Tim

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I found a scan of the 2nd wmk block I sold and guess what -- SAME date and cancel!

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Glen,

How freaky is that. How long ago did they sell? Must be from the same sheet I would have thought.

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A block from the decimal era!

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A block from the decimal era!

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Wow, Seepaw, that's gone way beyond "poorly centred" and well into "spectacular mis-perf error" :!: :lol: :!: :lol:


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Didge wrote:
Glen,

How freaky is that. How long ago did they sell? Must be from the same sheet I would have thought.

Tim


Freakier still - three days earlier with same cancel! (Sold last year.)

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Glen,

What is the status of the telephone accounts cancel? Not philatelic I would have thought. That 5/- looks stunning. Its a ripper.

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Didge wrote:
Glen,

What is the status of the telephone accounts cancel? Not philatelic I would have thought. That 5/- looks stunning. Its a ripper.

Tim


I am guessing, but up until the 1980s, you could use mint stamps to pay telephone accounts.

I imagine that this is what these were used for. If I am correct, like telegraph punctures, they should have been audited and destroyed under supervision.

But, like high value 'roo telegraph punctures, some would have been "liberated" by hungry people and placed into the market rather than destroyed.

I would have thought that they would rate at 25-30% of postally used examples, but am certainly willing to be corrected on this entire post.

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