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The description on this one beggars belief, here is the stamp



Title: US Stamp Scott #153 24c Gem Scott! RARE STAMP! Used

Seller: mitch777

The description reads: From my collection of over 50 years. Scott No. 153 - 24c Scott. My resources tell me that finding this stamp in any condition is extremely hard to do. This stamp is faded or dull with a water faded cancel, but never hinged under 10 X. The picture shows a perfs fault on one corner that is not the case. I would grade this stamp as fine and considering how hard it is to find a nice stamp to have.


Please use the picture to determine the condition! Questions welcome, thanks for looking!

http://cgi.ebay.com/US-Stamp-Scott-153-24c-Gem-Scott-RARE-STAMP-Used-/170557156380?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b5ffac1c

Ok the stamp is catalogued $160 USD but that stamp is so poor it shouldn't be anywhere near the $99.99 Buy it now price the seller has on it.

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Donald.
Aus KGV Head Addict !

And yet another dreamer. For only $A1,750, you get to buy (sight unseen - no scan at all) from zero feedback seller scipie1



http://cgi.ebay.com.au/mint-condition-1 ... 0655657809?

Since the seller did not bother to scan the item, here they are. And they ore not MS's. They are booklets, real value $15.00 maybe.



Norm

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Geelong, VFA Premiers 1878, 1879, 1800, 1882, 1883, 1884, 1886, AFL Premiers 1925, 1931, 1937, 1951, 1952, 1963, 2007, 2009, 2011, .

I think I may have found the source for this dreamtime offer. statusinternational are currently offering an imperf between pair of this same item for $US1,300, which I think may have confused our otherwise alert no hoper into thinking he had uuummmm... something.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/AUSTRALIA-1973-R ... 0682794901?

Norm

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Geelong, VFA Premiers 1878, 1879, 1800, 1882, 1883, 1884, 1886, AFL Premiers 1925, 1931, 1937, 1951, 1952, 1963, 2007, 2009, 2011, .

Crikey, these Australian stamps are all too complicated for me. I'm glad I don't bother with them. Imperf with perforations ... imperf between with perforations ... It's all too much. No wonder mitchaman is confused

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'First I'll steal all the money, then I'll kill everybody, and then I'll go away', Père Ubu

Either I need to get really educated on US Stamps or this is a scam. Now I could see encapsulating a gorgeous Penny Black, 2£ 1st WM Roo or a 1$ Western Cattle in Storm US Trans Mississippi...but these ?

Even funnier is that they state they paid $12.00 to have it graded, which I guess means they are not qualified to grade a 20¢ Stamp ?

Scott 2009 lists this at 20¢ for MNH, I realize this does come with a printed label and a cheap plastic case which probably costs more than the Stamp does.

http://cgi.ebay.com/C78-SUPERB-NH-GEM-P ... 562f04b316



More from same

2009 Scott Catalog value.... 20¢
These Flags are a dime a dozen

http://cgi.ebay.com/912-SUPERB-NH-GEM-P ... 5acf932e1e

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"Life is a tough Teacher, it gives you the test first and the lesson later"
Anonymous

Stallzer my guess is that with a grade of 98/100 you won't find better example of that stamp.
The normal ones are probably off centre, patchy inking, bad missing perfs, weird gum etc.

But grade 98 is the second highest possible. I don't think they've found a 100/100 yet.
As long as the grade is correct, but the stamp does look pretty good.

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Greg - Looking for Goulburn Australia Cancels and Grangemouth Scotland Cancels and Covers
Member of the S.T.A.M.P Club for Slightly Twisted And Mad Philatelists - Motto: "Bring back the lick!"

Go wash your mouth out with soap.



There has been an extended and lively discussion on grading/slabbing stamps, a trend which has only occured in the USA, and appears to be based on Coin grading systems. it is a long read, but worthwhile, given that most collectors believe that this is a fad, and a waste of time and money. Read and enjoy.

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=208

Norm

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Geelong, VFA Premiers 1878, 1879, 1800, 1882, 1883, 1884, 1886, AFL Premiers 1925, 1931, 1937, 1951, 1952, 1963, 2007, 2009, 2011, .

Agreed it is a nice piece, but still..Catalog calls for MNH 20¢. Is that for one off center ? But if it's slightly off center you deduct from the value. So lets say that it is perfectly centered (Grading has always been a gray area)
does that increase the value 225 % ? Scott states that "Very Fine pre-1900 stamps in these catagories (MNH, MLH, MH) trade at a premium over Scott value", these are from 1970 & 1943. Would you pay $12.00 to have a stamp graded you knew had a Cat. value of 20¢ ? If this is purchased, the buyer will be paying that $12.00 + mark up on that. I can buy a rare Franklin with a Grill for $50.00....I'm just saying....

Norm, must have posted right after you did, thanks for that link, good read. I see I'm not the only one that thinks this is a waste.

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"Life is a tough Teacher, it gives you the test first and the lesson later"
Anonymous

One more things you're missing on this one: the seller has graded it as 85 (based on centering and condition), and that grading looks reasonable or a bit conservative. A MNH 497 line pair is a reasonably scarce animal, with only 33 recorded pairs. See the 4th line from the bottom here:

http://www.psestamp.com/pop/detail.aspx?c=19146

It's still for sale, which suggests that the price is no bargain. And it doesn't seem to have been sent in for grading. But it isn't out of line for what I'd expect to see for one of these.

Greg

Seller: costaronline

LINK: http://tinyurl.com/22unabn

Starting bid: $950 US
Buy it now: $1000 US

My remarks in brackets.

Mixed New Zealand Collection Pre DECIMAL ALBUM 34
I am having a big clean out as I dont have time to sell everything indivually
Mixed New Zealand Collection Pre DECIMAL ALBUM 34 (not in 1980 bub!)
FROM 1980 to 1995 (when did New Zealand go on the dollar again...1960's wasn't it?)
Shipping is $40 due to size of album







In summary: a seller has posted an auction with vague, inaccurate description accompanied by four equally vague photographs as to what the collection actually contains. Furthermore, this seller with some 70 feedback wants me to shell on near $1000 for said collection.....

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Lover of all things KGVI.

It's back!!


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310265072594

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German, German State and Saar Revenues Wanted...

Seller: fredlar Feedback Score Of 3835

1941 Germany "Semi Post" No.B189(sp164) Mint Hinged OG



Buy it now: US $25.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0621139392

Scott '07 lists it as $5.00 MNH and 0.50 MH

WORLDWIDE SHIPPING $4.75---------US STANDARD SHIPPING $2.75-----------Multiple Items Combined S & H - GLOBAL WORLD accepts Paypal - Refunds - Reference Return Policy Details - CONDITIONS ARE AS FOLLOWS: FILLER, POOR, FAIR, AVERAGE, USED, GOOD, VERY GOOD, FINE, VERY FINE, MINT, MINT NO GUM, MINT HINGED, MINT NEVER HINGED & GEM - Any Stamps with Serious Flaws are NEVER SOLD Unless Specified as such - Some items may be replaced for more expensive items in the event that the item had been previously sold prior to the item being listed and was an error on our part - Stamp I.D'S are not 100% and but pretty close. CUSTOMERS NOT COMPLETELY SATISFIED, PLEASE RETURN FOR A FULL 100% REFUND.

APS Member # 213136

From the TRS on yahoo.



Kloster

How did he build up a feedback of 3,800 with listings like that? He knows the catalogue value, he's an APS member, not a clueless "I know nothing about stamps" dreamer, yet he sticks prices like that on his auctions...

I think a report of the APS is justifiable. He's dug himself into a hole with that description. Sure he promises a replacement/substitute "of greater value" if the item you bought is not available, but you don't put something up for auction then turn around and say "oops I don't have it anymore, here's something else"...he wouldn't last long on the sales forum here.

Maybe he puts up the item on eBay, Delcampe, Bidstart and if 2 people click the item the same day, he makes a sale to both parties by giving one buyer the original and the other person another copy.

If he simply put a message at the bottom "(long-term) member of the APS" that would be enough, no need to give out your membership number. Its along the lines of publicly displaying any ID number, although not in the same league as driver's license etc of course. Makes it easier to file a report with the APS though.

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My online 'store': http://stampsfromaethelwulf.blogspot.com/

I asked him the same question - here's his reply :

What makes you think we are using a catalog or any other price guide for that fact? Scotts is used to Identify The Item not to sell it. The Catalog Price is are own price......what we are willing to sell that item for - that is why it's called Capitalism. Thanks for the advise but we sell our items for what we want to sell them for. If Someone else wants to sell the identical Item for .50c and give it away then you can go shop and get it there.

Of course, I had to reply :

Yes, but the problem is, people looking at Ebay see vastly overpriced junk like this and think that the rest of Ebay is going to be the same, and hence they stop looking. Some dealers are not here to gouge the pants off buyers, they are here to do business and sell items and build up a good customer base. This is one of the reasons nothing sells on Bidstart ( why I stopped listing over there ), because it is filled with greedy stamp dealers trying to pull the wool over unsuspecting buyers eyes. This is also why, when gullible people are found to buy this crap, and then come to sell it on years later, they wonder why their collection isn't worth a tenth of what they paid for it.

Here is a real collector classic, in description "Small Rip"



http://cgi.ebay.com/U-S-Stamp-Scotts-10 ... 3cb205cd47

Starting bid of $24.99 USD

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"Life is a tough Teacher, it gives you the test first and the lesson later"
Anonymous

Small rip ? LOL Big RIP-off...

I would give this "idiotic statement of the week".

This describes well the approach a lot of dreamers seem to take to selling. Ah but at least these guys use a catalogue to the extent they identify the stamp they're selling, not "it's an old red stamp with George Washington on it, its rarrrrrreeee, BIN $10,000".

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Collecting Mongolia; Thailand; Indo-China; Mourning Covers; OHMS.
My online 'store': http://stampsfromaethelwulf.blogspot.com/

Here we have another one of these " Encapsulated Stamps" , Catalog value of .90¢ for Mint / Never Hinged.
But since it's actually centered and comes in a .40¢ plastic case, yours for only $325.00




http://cgi.ebay.com/655-SUPERB-OG-NH-w- ... 2c54f27754

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"Life is a tough Teacher, it gives you the test first and the lesson later"
Anonymous

Surely collectors have more sense than to buy things like that ?

Collectors? Sense?

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'First I'll steal all the money, then I'll kill everybody, and then I'll go away', Père Ubu

That centering looks terrible to me for a '98' grade, clearly shifted left.

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Collecting Mongolia; Thailand; Indo-China; Mourning Covers; OHMS.
My online 'store': http://stampsfromaethelwulf.blogspot.com/

lol, well I am a collector and I would not buy it - so by my own rule I have some sense

Well, that makes two of us, then, Rog ...

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'First I'll steal all the money, then I'll kill everybody, and then I'll go away', Père Ubu

I know you will find this difficult to believe but....some collectors even go for strange ugly pieces of paper produced in certain Indian States!

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Peter
Hawthorn - AFL Premiers 1961, 1971, 1976, 1978, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 2008.

Somehow, I feel there will be a retort appearing soon.

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Mike
Why do we need perforations? Scissors are cheap!

Surely not !

[Dignified silence icon]

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'First I'll steal all the money, then I'll kill everybody, and then I'll go away', Père Ubu

As opposed to undignified stamp icon?

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Peter
Hawthorn - AFL Premiers 1961, 1971, 1976, 1978, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 2008.

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'First I'll steal all the money, then I'll kill everybody, and then I'll go away', Père Ubu

Now you are quoting yourself...some might call that egotistical....but I will defend you against such a charge! I know it is simple senility.

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Peter
Hawthorn - AFL Premiers 1961, 1971, 1976, 1978, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 2008.

Peter, I think it's time we pursued this issue away from Stampboards, over lunch again ...

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'First I'll steal all the money, then I'll kill everybody, and then I'll go away', Père Ubu

Maybe...do you promise to leave your guns and knives at home this time? The policewoman, last time, was very nice and all and I know I was able to convince her, eventually, that it was just simple-mindedness and senility that made you wear your cap guns and holsters in public. Still, i don't really want to have to do that again, thanks very much.

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Peter
Hawthorn - AFL Premiers 1961, 1971, 1976, 1978, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 2008.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Stamp-K4-1915-19 ... 0584404858



Is this cancellation that rare?? Unless its sideways watermark.
Buy it now price AUS$187.50, with nearly three hours to go. His/Her other items are worth a look as well.

This one from the same seller - angrail - may well be a cleaned fiscal, and as it is described at Mint No Gum, I would be very reluctant to part with over $A50.00 for it.



http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Stamps-New-Zeala ... 0633630740?

Here is a cleaned fiscal from my collection, although a lot more obvious than the above:



Norm

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Geelong, VFA Premiers 1878, 1879, 1800, 1882, 1883, 1884, 1886, AFL Premiers 1925, 1931, 1937, 1951, 1952, 1963, 2007, 2009, 2011, .

I thought senility is when you go out in public and forget to put pants on.

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Collecting Mongolia; Thailand; Indo-China; Mourning Covers; OHMS.
My online 'store': http://stampsfromaethelwulf.blogspot.com/

Here's a good one
I have emailed this guy about this stamp,He even acknowledged my first email ,with the comment he would check it out .
It has been run twice now you think he would have got the message.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/BAHRAIN-9-Used-K ... 0150471662


not quite worth the $57-00 he's asking.as its's Sc #17 and he knows it, worth about 60c.
Brian

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Life's too short - spend your money now, or someone else will!!

Senile ... and proud of it

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'First I'll steal all the money, then I'll kill everybody, and then I'll go away', Père Ubu

And just for a change, a Delcampe Dreamer:

http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/id,109499030,var,Charkhari-Elefanten-Staat-Nummer-1,language,E.html



One Charkhari SG 5b in reasonable condition, and one Charkhari SG 5a which seems to have been left in someone's back pocket when it went through the washing machine, and has then been stamped on with a tarry boot heel

Total Gibbons catalogue value, in good condition, £8 - asking €250

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'First I'll steal all the money, then I'll kill everybody, and then I'll go away', Père Ubu

http://tinyurl.com/33rzbgv



Seller: simgin
Price: $350.00 US

Asking for $350.00 US for a hinged Bluenose that also appears to have some sort of foxing/toning at top and a rounded corner. I paid $270 US for a MNH Bluenose with no faults!

A fairer price would be at least $200 less...

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Lover of all things KGVI.

Here's a dreamer for you, or is he a crook who knows what he is actually selling?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/New-South-Wales-QV-5d-Dull-Green-5-Pence-RARE-/270658050156?pt=UK_Stamps_CommonwealthStamps_GL&hash=item3f047a186c



Seller: memorycards-and-stamps Price is only £15.99!

Description:

New South Wales,QV 5d Dull Green (5 Pence) RARE

Nice stamp, fine use, Mounted, a real collectable, 1854 stamp.

Ive seen simular stamps like this go for £50-£100



Instant payment please..

No Refund or return on this item, bif only if intrested.

All bidders welcome

So, he's seen "simular stamps" going for £50-£100? I have some sad news for him. The stamp might have originally been issued in 1854 (as an imperf) but this example is from a much later date. The same stamp, printed from the same plates, was in use right up till 1912. If he took a zero off the price it would probably still be too dear!

Sorry for the small image, that is the full size image of his RARE stamp!

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Peter
Hawthorn - AFL Premiers 1961, 1971, 1976, 1978, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 2008.

Amusing response from memorycards-and-stamps, to my telling him the bad news about his stamp.

"Excuse me, but i brought this from another ebay seller, with several others N.S.W stamps and i only put what he did, i just buy and resell i know nothink about stamps.. i mainly buy for unfranked and to collect to build a small album for my kids.. It should state in most of my listings i know nothink about stamps, i just buy and resell..

and to prove i brought them from other Ebayers here are some links i got N.S.W stamps from.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300478044608&ssPageName=STRK:MEBDIX:IT

This is the one i got, cheap, but a stamp collers i know said it is a 1900 (1854) 5d Dull Green, so im only going on what he said, here is the link of where i got it, yes cheaper, than im selling, but i have seen stamps like this got for around £50..
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270658050156

If your intrested in it, make me a offer...

Steve

- memorycards-and-stamps"

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Peter
Hawthorn - AFL Premiers 1961, 1971, 1976, 1978, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 2008.

Peter,

I think the seller's response is very revealing and perhaps says pretty-well all that needs to be said or can be said about much of the trading in stamps on eBay.

This seller doesn't strike me as a deliberate deceiver, just a small-time trader in loose change. Sure, there are buyers who will get stung by this sort of spiel, but the degree isn't great and the financial damage is not likely to be severe. Of course, the hobby suffers as a consequence.

EBay itself? Doesn't give a hoot. Stamps are probably a tiny proportion of its overall trading operation. It would and should only take eBay ONE look at ONE listing to see for itself how SOME sellers set out to deceive.

For mine, sellers like gottacute are the real villains, deliberately and habitually over-describing stamps, forever citing 'imaginary' or unrealistic catalogue prices, wilfully distorting retail prices by not deducting 50% for poorly centred etc.

These spivs employ absurdly liberal and inaccurate descriptions such as 'very fine used' or 'fine used', and of course the old favourites like 'gem', 'superb', magnificent', 'pristine' in nearly all their listings. Note gottacute's use of gem: remind you of another seller who has often received unfavourable mention?

Worse, sellers like gottacute habitually use dummy or shill bidding to stimulate interest in their listings, or to 'win' items they don't want to sell too cheaply. There is a well-known Melbourne dealer who currently is quite handy at dummy and shill bidding, too.

Note: I am aware more than most of the laws of libel and defamation and offer this challenge: if gottacute disputes my assertions let her, or HIM, sue me. Or better still, respond to my criticism, and that of others, right here.

Clive

This is not speculation says seller hitlerandgandhi

Starting Bid : app. US$ 223,507 for a single lot of 500 sheets

http://cgi.ebay.in/RAJ-KUMAR-SHUKLA-500 ... 3cb23d3e81



Description
Total Sheets :2500
Total Stamps :1 lac
Approx :FDC -10000
Iam offering 500 sheets (20000 stamps )
(If u say this is speculation .....then u are WRONG )
No Speculation ,This is the result of INVESTMENT only.
Yes ,500 Sheets ...Iam offering at Rs.1 crore only.
(Rs.10000000 )
Yes ,in one Shot 500 sheets.
Once in life time opportunity.
If anybody in India can offer 500 sheets at this price...I will Buy -101%
I know in Retail 1 Sheet price is of Rs.25000-30000
(My Projection of Per sheet by Feb 2011 is Rs40000+ )
In Next 2 YEAR.....Price may cross 60000+
In Next 5 Year ...per sheet price may cross Rs.1 lac /per sheet
Do u know ?
In India ........at Present 25000 collectors
It means 25000 stamps gone forever !!
Many Collectors might be having 1-2 sheets
Many Dealers in India are having 10-50-100 sheets
10000 FDC means.....25k Stamps +10k Stamps :35000 stamps gone out of 1 lac stamps
Iam offering 20k stamps means Total :55000 stamps
so just 45k stamps in MARKET !!
Only 45000 stamps.
I think SKY will be Limit for this stock.My calculation says in in next 5 years...per sheet will cross Rs.1 lac or more
(Iam not saying u Buy 500 sheets from me )
(If u are getting 500 sheets.....I will buy at above price )
Think and Act !

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sharos

Hi all
Would you buy from this guy ??? stampseller1489710
Read his directions on payment Quote


Shipping to:
US - $2.00
Canada - $2.30
Other Countries - $2.50,
at your own risk.By bidding, you agree not to file a PayPal chargeback case, regardless of the reason (lost in the mail or theft).
Registration and/or Insurance are not available.

So you have no come back what so ever,shouldn't have thought he could do that?
Brian

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Life's too short - spend your money now, or someone else will!!

He can't do that. He can make up whatever rules he wants, but they don't overrule the actual terms & conditions of using ebay & Paypal.

I could make up a rule that says "Anyone who bids on my auctions must send me $75 and some nude pictures of their daughters (only if aged 18-25 and attractive), even if they don't win the item".

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Always on the lookout for Australian pre decimal First Day Covers.

The Pom-
But, frankly I prefer your rules over ebay rules

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Mike
Why do we need perforations? Scissors are cheap!

Thanks again to http://www.engrish.com

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'First I'll steal all the money, then I'll kill everybody, and then I'll go away', Père Ubu

I'll send you a link to my ebay items, do you have any daughters?

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Always on the lookout for Australian pre decimal First Day Covers.

I'm sure all of his buyers, when they find out how much they've overpaid, would be "intrested" to biff him, along with all the other words from the 60's Batman--boff, zonk, kapow.

He's described himself entirely in a word, "nothink".

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Collecting Mongolia; Thailand; Indo-China; Mourning Covers; OHMS.
My online 'store': http://stampsfromaethelwulf.blogspot.com/

And another new dreamer for your amusement:

Meet mrkermit1612 . Feebay wins again.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Very-Rare-Austra ... 0519708489?

Price: $A890.00. Real value: Nothing



http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Encylopedia-Amer ... 0519721863?

Price $A380.00. Real value? Maybe $5-$10




http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Very-rare-Austra ... 0519693324?

Price $A1,300. Actual value $3.00



Norm

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Geelong, VFA Premiers 1878, 1879, 1800, 1882, 1883, 1884, 1886, AFL Premiers 1925, 1931, 1937, 1951, 1952, 1963, 2007, 2009, 2011, .