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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 02:29:07 am 
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Many Thanks Ikanek. The Miraj Stamp mentions "Miraj State" and not "Miraj Senior".


Well, Miraj state has two sections - one is called Senior and the other is Junior. As this series is not listed in KM catalogue I deduced from the similar series which are denoted as Miraj Senior state (also without Senior mentioned).
Here is a sample copy of similar but listed series:

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All of them are common pieces, only the last Baroda is quite interesting. As you can clearly see it is more "crude" printing. Some collectors mean that it may be either a forgery to defraud the government or a local printing. So far, only 1 anna green is known to me. I think that it should be the second option.

The coat-of-arms stamps of Bikaner are also good for study, there must be many printings in blocks of 4.


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Technically "not Indian state" but you folks might be interested.

Sorry to state but these are the commonest stamps from Bahawalpur, even I have them. :D


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Travancore :

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Travancore is my other collecting area (I just starting about a year and a half ago).
On the first sight nothing of much interest, but on the other there could be some interesting varieties.
So, check 10 ca pink conch issue for watermark (watermark B is very scarce and I don´t have it yet). Later issues are also known with other perforations (12 ½ or combinations of 12 and 12 ½). The last stamp also has part of Experimental cancels which is interesting.


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Lovely. Thanks for posting this nice piece of eye candy.

I had read about the Dewan Miraj, B S Gokhale--- but your stamp bears his signature too.

Awesome...

...and many thanks for your comments on my posts.

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May I recommend that you obtain a copy of the Golden Book of India (Macmillan 1893).
Would be of great help.... that is if you do not have it already....

Free of cost digital version is available at...

http://www.archive.org/stream/goldenboo ... t_djvu.txt


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2 Birds with one stone....increasing my post count and getting free appraisal from the experts...

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Thanks for the info about the book. I also have found on the archive.org website this in PDF form.


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OK, Jaisalmer - a common stamp in not much good condition. This paper is now quite brittle but good copies are possible to find.

Then, it is Jaipur and Khetri (district of Jaipur), Palanpur, Muli and Maliya. In Palanpur, there are several fonts of letters A-D before serial number and shades as well.

The last is from Bajana - quite not common and also quite "sensitive" due to brittle paper.


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Jodhpur and Alwar :

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The last stamp is Kurundwad Junior.

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No more feudatories in my album. The remaining are on documents.

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Probably the best from them is Kurundwad Junior stamp. All others are common.


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Birder, a very long shot indeed, but ... do have a close look at the small red Jaipur stamp overprinted SERVICE.

It's almost certainly the 1 Anna stamp, and quite common, but the 1 Rupee was printed in a very similar colour:

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and that is quite an uncommon stamp.

(As an aside, I've never understood why Jaipur printed the two stamps in such similar colours. With - probably - poor lighting in government offices in the 1930s, and with the most poorly printed stamps being reserved for Service use anyway, it seems risky.)

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many thanks...Tony.

The stamp I have is the Red One Anna Revenue. Your image is of theOrange One Rupee Service. A true Gem.

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Some more I found...

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Rewa, Nabha, Mewar, Kotah, Jasdan - all are common :D .

On the other hand, check perforations on smaller Nabha revenue, several perforations exist and some of them also are compound.


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And for perspective,

here are 3 stamps being used in May 2011 :

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Thanks Ikanek.... thanks tony...

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I would appreciate receiving help in identifying this piece of revenue stamped paper. It has the the imprint of Thos. De La Rue & Co. London beneath the stamp and the English word REVENUE running through the design.

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Very Nice.

One Rupee Stamp Paper from Kashmir and Tibet. The design contains Hindi, Urdu, Tibetan and English characters.

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As this is from Jammu & Kashmir, I wonder if the script might be Dogri, rather than Tibetan. Maharaja Ranbir Singh (although this looks to be after his time) was a great supporter of the use of Dogri.

I do agree, though: a very fine-looking piece.

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Thanks for the identification. Now that I know it is one rupee I can see it written in the central panel.

My understanding is that Dogri was written with the Takri alphabet that looks more like Devanagari than Tibetan. Balti was written in the Tibetan script. In any case, both languages switched to Devanagari in the 20th century.

Since Jammu and Kashmir borders Tibet and so much territory is still in dispute, I think it may just be straight Tibetan.

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I'd be surprised to find the unidentified script was Tibetan, as it was never used on Kashmiri stamps, and Baltistan and Ladakh don't seem to have bulked very large in the thinking of Jammu and Srinagar.

The Dogri script shown by Staal, in The Stamps of Jammu & Kashmir as appearing on the stamps seems to differ clearly from Takri:

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My point was that Dogri (written in the Takri script) looks more like Devanagari than Tibetan.

I think what the table supports my point. What you have is a comparison between Takri and Devanagari characters. The columns headed Dogri are in Takri script. For comparison, compare the Dogri characters in the table with the Takri characters on this "ancient scripts" web site: http://www.ancientscripts.com/takri.html

As for the use of straight Tibetan, I was thinking of the use of the revenues in carrying on trade with Tibet. Tibetan wouldn't be need on stamps. Just a thought on my part.

Now that I have said all that, what are the languages along the top of the stamp? The left looks like Devanagari (Hindi) and the right sure looks like Takri (Dogri).


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Yes, I did compare the Takri script at the ancientscripts Web site, and it differs from the Dogri in the Staal table. To my mind, the script on the stamped paper certainly looks like Dogri, the more I look at it.

From all I can gather, the Baltistan/Ladakh region seems to have been a bit of an afterthought. After all, it was much poorer and less developed than the Vale of Kashmir or Jammu, and the bulk of trade - on the evidence of surviving 19th century covers - was directed southwards, to the Punjab.

If you haven't yet read it, I do recommend E.F. Knight's Where Three Empires Meet, Longmans, Green, 1903: a great piece of Great Gamesmanship. Knight was the The Times correspondent with the Hunza-Nagar expedition of 1891. He has a great deal of rather scathing commentary on the tourist attractions of Baltistan.

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Our posts are overlapping. I just added to my previous comment: "
Now that I have said all that, what are the languages along the top of the stamp? The left looks like Devanagari (Hindi) and the right sure looks like Takri (Dogri)."

Here's a quote from Carol A. von der Lin's web sitearition byvsago kashmirstamps.ca:

"The sub-lines of Takri are complex and probably not well understood. As to main divisions, one reads of divergent local traditions for the writing of Chambeali (in Chamba), Kishtwari, Jaunsārī (Sirmaurī in Sirmur), Kulvī, Dogrī-Kangrī, and others. The Dogri form of Takri became even more divergent through attempts at official reform by Maharaja Ranbir Singh in the 1860s (ref. under 'name dogra akkhar' ~ New Dogri Script). If you want more information about these scripts, check out possible leads under such other names as Baniyā (~ literally 'merchant'), Wāniko, Lamawasi, Lundas, and Shawara. Some of our gleanings have been taken from ancientscripts.com, and for which we are grateful. "

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Yes.Top line. Next to Hindi. It IS Dogri.

It reads "Shri Ramji Sahay Stamp Kalam Ree Jambu Va Kashmir Va Tibet Ha"

roughly translating into "With the assistance/grace of Lord Shri Ram..Stamp...(kalam Ree)....Jammu & Kashmir & Tibet..(Ha)"

Hope this partial translation helps.

Once again..
You guys are amazing...you go into such great detail.

Last year I had visited a place called Munsiyari near the Tibetan Border. Met a gentleman whose ancestors had traded with Tibet. Had also bought a small book from him. Shall look for it.


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That's why I love the Indian States: always something to get your teeth into :lol:

As to the Maharajas' claim to Tibet ... they weren't alone in making forlorn territorial claims. When did the British monarchs drop their claim to Normandy? Long after they'd lost the last toehold there, as I recall :lol:

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This stamped paper is Type 40 but 1 rupee is not listed, KM gives date as 1935-1940, but I think it could be quite earlier. I could see 1904 on the document.
I consider this paper as very scarce with retail value about 20 USD.

Several similar stamped paper series are known - one of them has different order of panels and the other has in the centre included portrait of the ruler.


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This stamped paper is Type 40 but 1 rupee is not listed, KM gives date as 1935-1940, but I think it could be quite earlier. I could see 1904 on the document.
I consider this paper as very scarce with retail value about 20 USD.

Several similar stamped paper series are known - one of them has different order of panels and the other has in the centre included portrait of the ruler.



Since the date on the obverse is not appearing in the scanned portion of the stamppaper..one has to rely on the narration in the front.

I could find the date mentioned only at one place and even there it is not very clear. The year is 1986 (most likely), or 1956(less likely) or 1906 (least likely). Whether it is Samvat or Sann is also not very clear. However the narration indicates sizes of rooms etc and so presumably it is a property transfer document.

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Unlisted in K&E -- that adds a bit of excitement.

Now that I have excavated it from my boxes of "miscellaneous" material, it deserves further study. Thanks to all.


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There is something that I need to discuss with you. Can you pls email at the following address -- pothbhola [at] hotmail [dot] com? Thanks.


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I would appreciate receiving help in identifying this piece of revenue stamped paper. It has the the imprint of Thos. De La Rue & Co. London beneath the stamp and the English word REVENUE running through the design.

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And here is a revenue stamp from same entity:



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THE heading says Sri Ramji Sahay Jammu Kashmir Tibbatachi Rashtriya stamp dated 9th Nov. 1945.
This literally means By grace of Lord Rama Jammu Kashmit Tibet 's national stamp.


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That must be Maharaja Hari Singh who juggled India and Kashmir as long as he could in order to keep Jammu and Kashmir independent.


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I have not been able to figure out the black stamp(s) at the bottom right. I have also not been able to figure out the embossed stamp on top left.

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and better version of the stamps in question:


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Looking for some help here.

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I am sorry that I could not help you more than that this document is written in Modi script. The embossed mark could be some printer´s mark and the handstamp is not much clear and may be personal handstamp.


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The embossed seal most likely belongs to a papermaker. Here is one from the bottom right hand corner of a sheet of Bundi SG O6aA, scanned in greyscale to make it a little clearer:

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I've also seen these on sheets from Jammu & Kashmir.

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1. If you look carefully, something like IX.12.IX can be seen in the embossed stamp.

2. Niranjan Prasad son of Mohan Prasad has recieved the amount and signed on the Victoria stamp. There are two witnesses also who have signed.

3. There is an amount of what looks like Five Rupees Eight annas (??) next to the embossed stamp. There is also what looks like "Paanch Rupia" (five rupee) at the end of the third line on the document.

4. The number 658 appears to have been written at the end of the narration (the end of the fifth line in the document).

5. Since there is nothing printed as such, I doubt if the embossed stamp is a printer's mark. It might be some kind of stamp vendor/small court/ revenue seal ... but I don't know.



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Ikanek, I think you will like this 2 anna paper from Sitamau (1912).

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And I also have the one Anna cousin (1924)


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But, unlike the previous case, this one has been signed by the Dewan, Darbar Meeraj. I wonder why...?

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But, unlike the previous case, this one has been signed by the Dewan, Darbar Meeraj. I wonder why...?

The handstamp in red color should read as Diwan Darbar Sitamau.
I think that without his signature this stamped paper was not valid for use. But this is only my idea.

I like these papers, but I have about one or two in my collection.


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You are right. The red hand stamp is Dewan Darbar Sitamau...but ..unmagnified..it did appear to be Meeraj.

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Something nice for Ikanek
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 21:01:25 pm 
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This revenue stamped paper from BaghaT is from Type 15. Several printings were made - some of the later printings has also a month and year printed at the bottom left corner - as in your example - 8/44 and numbers printed as 5000. I have also this paper and about 35 others from this Type. Also other types are represented in my collection of about 100 different stamped papers from this state.


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These are real examples of the Ugly design - I like these types very much, but their condition is often not good. These papers are very brittle now, so be careful with handling.
Your example is 1 anna - printing of 1 July 1929.


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I have to agree. This is the sort of thing that might make me take up stamped papers. A true Ugly! Pity it's so brittle.

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I like these stamps very much. But some basic doubts persist:

1. Are these cutouts from stamp papers?
2. Are they pure revenue stamps or dual use postage revenue?

Any information shall be greatly appreciated.

Thanks and regards.

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The Cutch Circulars are nice looking items, but I doubt they served any postal purpose. AFAIK, Kotah and Tonk are the only two undisputed unlisted State post offices at the moment.

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I like these stamps very much. But some basic doubts persist:

1. Are these cutouts from stamp papers?
2. Are they pure revenue stamps or dual use postage revenue?

1. These issues were used either as usual adhesive revenue stamps as well as for stamped papers. There is an easy way to tell them apart:
Adhesives are on thick paper, usually perforated with small pin-perf. 17-18 and on the margins you can see often pencil lines.
Stamped papers are also known in this design in many denominations - they are printed on thinner papers with no pencil lines around design. Very often also on yellowish paper.

2. They are purely fiscal issues - although valid for Court Fee and Documentary purposes.

From your small image, I think you have only cut-outs of stamped papers.


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