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A few simple ground rules. Please *READ* them!


These are ADDITIONAL to the general 'Rules' that also apply to every post on this board - those are here -

http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2556

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1. Any member of stampboards.com who has at least 20 posts and has been registered for at least 20 days may post NEW threads here offering stamps/coins/banknotes for SALE at member friendly prices - the "20/20" rule. All Registered members of any post count may RESPOND to offers of goods for sale (but NOT to free offers, until they reach 30/30).

If you are new here, wander around the other forums. DO say 'Hi' on the "Roll Call" Forum as you were asked, and let the members see a little more of you, and know who you are. Get a 'feel' of how we do things here. We are a friendly and helpful COMMUNITY. It is a 2 way street here. Ask a few questions about stamps, add a few comments of your own to other member's questions, and in turn you earn some rights - such as the right to offer stamps for sale. Remember - participating in these Forums is a privilege - not a right. :idea:

2. All items offered for sale must have a clear PHOTO posted clearly showing exactly what you are selling - hosted ideally in http://www.photobucket.com - the free program 99% of us use. Which is outlined in detail - here. (The obvious exceptions would be things clearly absurd or pointless to photograph, like 3 cartons of old magazines etc, or a huge box of kiloware etc). No "mystery packets for $50" or "500 Denmark off-paper for $25" unless the ACTUAL stamps offered in every instance are shown in photo. The MORE photos the better of course, and for THIS forum up to 20 or 30 scans can be listed in post #1 for collections etc - for Forums elsewhere 5 or 6 is the most we like to see.

For items or sets priced over $A250 offered here, we make the common sense request that the reverses of stamps are shown, at the same size as the facial shot. Often hinges, creases, toning and other such areas can then be seen, allowing members to make a fully informed purchase.

3. All items offered are to have a clear asking price - ideally in the THREAD HEADING. Remember our readers are global so "$50" is not going to work, and will confuse all others - you need to type "$A50", "$US50", "$C50" or "$NZ50" or other currency you seek etc. And you should outline some idea of shipping costs. And in particular, if your offer price includes free postage - do SAY SO! No "best offer" posts - just state your lowest price up front. You can reduce it after 7 days if you wish.

We do not care whether either of the above is $A10 or $A1,000 - that is up to you. You and buyer pay ZERO fees - the only place with any traffic on the web to do so. So we expect offers to reflect the 10% saving over ebay, to be passed ONTO members via low asking prices. List things here at excessive or "dreamer" asking prices, and you WILL hear about it. How you want to be paid is also up to the both of you to sort out ..... but all sellers MUST spell out up front the payment method they prefer and accept. LOTS of board members are overseas, so taking PayPal (for instance) might ensure a faster sale. If you do, add the paypal email address to use in EACH offer - disguised of course, to get paid faster. Conversely if you only take bank transfer, say so - however most overseas members cannot pay you easily, etc and you will likely lose their sale. :idea:

4. If you want to give something away FREE to other members - thanks for sharing with fellow stampboarders. You do all that on THIS forum please - http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7741&p=352329

5. THIS Sales forum is NOT the place for chit chat and chirpy discussion. That clogs it up, and bumps threads needlessly, and annoys everyone. Post "Sold To Me" or similar if you want to buy the item. Please don't get sidetracked with dreamy - "My, that looks pretty" or "Never seen those before" or "What is the cancel on stamp 5?" or "If I pay in Russian Roubles, do I get a discount?" or "what is shipping cost unregistered sea post to Greenland?" or "is that a toned perf at top, or just lint on scanner" type posts etc. Do all of that by private email to the seller if you wish - it is of ZERO interest to other members, and annoys Moderators. If something does not look right, contact the seller direct - or Admin via the "Report Post" icon if they ignore you for days. :D

6. Stampboards is not the seller ... we are simply a neutral venue to hopefully match up buyers and sellers. We are like the notice board at a shopping centre, selling old lawn mowers or baby strollers or old toasters. A conduit only. We make nothing from this - we offer this forum as a FREE service only for members. Buyer and seller to contact each other DIRECT.

In view of the above we are not offering ANY warranty of guarantee whatever, as we do not have clue about any goods. Ask the seller all the questions you want off line. If the seller is Harish Kumarandangan from Bangladesh who wants $100 "cash only" for a 5/- Bridge, use common sense. If it sounds too good to be true - it most probably is! If we hear of any member ripping off others, that member will be suspended and "outed" here publicly and listed on our "shame" thread above. But if you have become a victim by rushing a "great" deal by new member, well - c'est la vie. :twisted:

7. This venue is for SPECIFIC offers only to fellow members of stampboards, other than current catalogues, accessories, software etc, where duplicate copies are possible. Offer things at silly high prices, and rule 16 below WILL be invoked. Overpriced, or mis-described junk is *not* what we offer on THIS site. ebay is your place for that! Breach this guideline too often, and you will be barred from listing up material. We will NOT allow anyone to post a long list of 20 auction lots they currently are offering on ebay or trademe or Delcampe etc. Moderators will remove all such posts with no notice.

Do NOT offer anything here you only have one of, but then also list it on ebay as "Buy It Now" etc. Too often members have done that, and then waste Moderator time asking for it to be locked and moved a day or 2 later. Moderators are volunteers and are busy folks, and we charge you zero fees. It is therefore ASSUMED anything you offer here will generally be available for purchase for at least 30 days to members - exclusively. If you are not happy with that - do not list the item up. Do this too often, and you may find yourself "masked" from this forum. Or banned from this site. Fair warning. :idea:

Please, if after the minimum 30 day period, you decide to offer the item elsewhere so it is no longer exclusive to Stampboards members, or you simply want to withdraw the item, email Admin with the actual link, or (far less preferred) make a post to your sales thread to that effect and a Moderator will remove it to the archive "sold lots" forum. The idea is to keep the Forum populated by only those items which remain available exclusively to Stampboards members. Your co-operation will help achieve that and at the same time reduce the load on the Moderators.

8. If you see something you like, please quickly type "SOLD TO ME" or wording very similar on the thread. Then all other members will KNOW it is already sold. Many collection type lots and popular material lots sell very fast around here, (often within minutes of being posted) and this is the only fair and equitable system. Posting vague things like - "Nice Lot!" or "thinking about this" or "have emailed you a question" or "what is Express Reg'd Post to Ubangaland on this $10 lot?" or "can you spend/waste 15 minutes and do me more scans please" etc, etc, is NOT a sale, and usually just wastes everyone's time, and confuses others, and clogs the Forum. Likewise for off-topic posts, and general observations. (See Rule 5 above.) DON'T do it!

Just because you emailed the seller to say you "probably" want it, or "might" like to buy it, it will not assist your cause if someone else posts on thread THEY will buy it, before you do so. The Moderators will direct it be sold to the first member who posted they WILL buy it. When a post is made from a member indicating they are buying the lot, a Moderator will "lock" the thread, and move it it to the "Sold Lots" Archive, to keep the "For Sale" forum FRESH with only current lots for sale there. Threads moved there are visible to all members for reference of course.

If you post "sold to me" and do not make payment, or make payment contact with the selling member within 12 hours of posting here that you are the buyer, the seller may re-offer it, or remove it from sale. And "out" the non payer, as a prudent and permanent warning to others. Posts to buy lots that are not paid for in some way within 12 hours is disruptive and annoying to all. Such members may incur a suspension, and/or an access block to this forum, at the discretion of Admin and moderators, to protect other members from wasting their time. Serious offenders re non payment will and are named in the Forum, via a special "sticky" thread. The same rule and penalty applies to those who offer goods here, and do not deliver after being paid, when goods are ordered.

9. In GENERAL we will leave threads here until the seller advises us otherwise. A little like that notice board at the newsagent that over a while gets new offers thumb tacked over it, and vanishes under the new offers - yet the original item is very likely still be for sale. There are very many pages of offers - look around - you never know! Lots that are advised as sold are removed by Moderators to the "Sold Lots" Forum for storage and reference, and to keep this Forum "fresh", but you can of course still view them. However by all means bump up any thread still here if the lot appeals, and you want to buy it - it is very likely still for sale. If you are a seller, and an old lot is no longer for sale, email the LINK(S) to it to admin at stampboards.com and ask for it to be removed, or (a far less preferred option) make a post saying "No longer available" and it will be moved to the "Sold Lots" forum.

10. If you list something for $50 on July 1 and notice it has had no interest by July 15, you of course are quite free to make a further post saying you have reduced the asking price to something lower, like $35 or $40. That also "bumps" up your thread to the top of the page. Every collector LOVES a bargain ... or perceived bargain! Do NOT start a new thread for the same item - simply 'bump' the existing one. Do not "bump" items with no price reduction, or mods will delete the bump post with no notice.

HOWEVER .. do NOT "bump" threads more than about once each 7 days as that just clogs up the new listings. Bumping within 7 days will motivate a Moderator to delete your bump post, and you are right back where you started. Only 2 consecutive "bumps" for the same item is allowed - it shows there is no interest in the item. Bumping too often, or reducing your price too often, will taint that member with a whiff of desperation in the eyes of many, and your initial offers might quickly be perceived to always be pitched too high, and savvy regular members will learn to wait you out for a discount. Be patient - if the material is well priced, it WILL sell. Eventually. The more attractive priced listing #1 is, the faster it will sell - remember that always. This is NOT ebay, where dreamers roam the earth. 8) :arrow:

11. To participate in this forum you **MUST** have your main working email address enabled via our software, and "replies turned on" Unless you have this done, no-one can contact you direct, and you will not receive replies to your ad. To do this go to your "USER CONTROL PANEL" tab at top right of each page.

12. Further to point 11 and even MORE important, you **MUST** tick this box when making your post here - "Notify me when a reply is posted" - otherwise you will not know when a question is being asked of you re the material etc.

13. Stampboards Members are often busy folks. Be SAVVY in your thread headings to save them time - and hopefully get YOU a sale. Typing "Tonga" as a thread heading means nothing much to anyone. However "Tonga 1953 Definitives set 14 fine used - $A15" may well get a fast response. 8)

14. Is there a MAXIMUM number of lots that be posted? Yes. Please post or bump no more than 5 sales threads in any 24 hour period. There is also a limit of 10 new threads or bumps in any 7 day period.

We have these limits so that all members will have a fair chance to sell their material. Stampboards is not eBay. We never intended it to be a mass retail outlet, or an eBay store-front. It is ideally a way to get rid of some surplus items, at member friendly prices. Remember there are NO fees whatever to you, so please pass that reality on to your fellow Stampboarders, via a rock bottom asking price. Think of it like your local stamp club sale by tender. If you'd happily accept $20 at your local club (with 10 members present on the night!) you'll get $18 nett *IF* it sells - and probably will not. So offer it here for $15 or less to a global audience is our recommended pricing.

15. Please do not be openly critical of other member's asking prices on the thread. If someone new lists a used 1913 1d Kangaroo at $10, all other members know it will not sell. It simply will vanish down the page with no responses, and that member might get the message it really was over-priced. Also do NOT make "counter offers" on threads. If something is priced at $50, and you want to offer $40 - do so by board email to the seller. You can of course hit the red "Report Post" button if you see something listed that seems excessively priced. The Moderator Team will then take a look. :idea:

16. Further to point 15, board owner Glen Stephens is a very experienced dealer. If he is made aware of offers from members of material that appears to him to be excessively priced, with no chance of selling to any informed buyer, he may contact that member to pass on that opinion, or post on the thread, and/or delete the listings, if no price adjustments are made based on his suggestion. To that end he or other Moderators reserve the sole right to add comment on any item's price, if they ever see fit. All other members please read Rule 15.

17. Material that is determined by Glen Stephens or other Moderators, to be forged or dubious or bogus or mis-described, WILL be removed with no prior notice. Stampboards will only allow members to offer philatelic/numismatic related material here. Lawn-mowers, "genuine" Gucci handbags, Barbie Dolls, computer screens, and Acai Berry pills etc are not for THIS board!

18. Is there a MINIMUM value lot that may be listed here? Well YES. We never intended this venue to be somewhere folks could list a string of $1 or $2 thematic/topical sets etc. That would clog the Forum, and probably be of little interest to many members looking for collections or bulkier lots etc. $A10 would seem to be the right type of price-point to have as a bare minimum please on stampboards. However, an initial offer at $A13 can be reduced to $A10 after 7 days if you wish, but not lower.

19. ONE offer of something identical per time please. Now and again something is released that more than one member might offer. The Australia Post "Gold" Pope FDC's, or a recent PNC or catalogues etc. In such cases, common sense dictates the first member to list it holds sway. Clearly 2 members both offering a Hagner sheet of used KGV heads is not affected by this rule, as both will by definition, be totally different to each other.

20. PAYMENT. If you are a newer member it is anticipated you will make full payment BEFORE any goods are shipped. Pure common sense. (And if you are a new member SELLER the opposite applies .. members will expect YOU to mail first!) Well established members might get cut some slack in this regard, but the rules are the SELLER determines when goods are mailed, unless they are a new member seller. Payment in 99% of cases will be via paypal or bank transfer or cheque.

Cash in the mail is NEVER wise for buying anything, anywhere, and paying thus, other than via Registered Post is entirely at your risk. Until seller gets your money, you still owe for the goods. (Or for a new member seller until buyer gets your goods, they do not pay.) Posting on a thread(s) that you will buy something, and then not completing that payment is a complete nuisance, and time waste to seller, and to other members and Admin. Do that, and you WILL be banned from this forum, (and from the board if the matter is serious) so do NOT do it please. We have 100% zero tolerance in this regard.

21. The rules for this Forum are pretty darn simple and common sense. However, we do occasionally encounter members who cannot or will not abide by them, or want to work around them, and/or create their own rules. This chews up a lot of Volunteer Moderator time and energy, and annoys all members. We have a simple solution to that - they will with no notice, be software blocked from posting further in this this forum. Their loss, not ours. So please READ the points above. :idea:

22. All members posting and buying are by doing so are deemed to have fully agreed to the above, and especially points 5 and 6.


Have fun! :D


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Thank You

The Administrator, and the Volunteer Moderator Team.

REMEMBER ALWAYS - Posting to stampboards.com is a privilege, not a right.


(This thread is for the information of members and is "locked" to member posts.)
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