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Tony

That is a topic itself. I will look out my notes and prepare a reply. Mind you, there are a lot of very different ideas on how to do a front page.

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Thanks a lot in advance. For the subject of my study (Argentina 1935-51), I have seen the first page with a table for the 16 watermark papers describing the dimensions of each, but I am leaning towards text, and maybe a stamp or a cover....

tony

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For discussion on Title Pages go to -

http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=8757

I have started a new thread for this topic

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I need to clarify one point if I am to continue this thread.

All the points I raise in this thread are "My opinion only" , they are NOT SET IN STONE.

This is a general thread on how to exhibit, and is NOT a critique of what I exhibit. I would prefer that comments and suggestions came through these pages rather than by email. If members want to comment on my pages, that is fine but please use this board for all to see.

I am happy to answer here.

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Since I wrote the above I have had email correspondence from a "guest"to Stampboards saying I should not have made the above HINT.

As said previously, it is my opinion only, and I justify it in the above example with the following additional comments.

The exhibit that this specimen set is from is a 16 page One Frame exhibit on the Annas stamps of the Aden States. Now each State issued 11 stamps and eac overprinted 2 values for the Victory celebrations.

If we accept 1 page for the title page, 2 pages for the specimen sets, that leaves 13 pages. My question would them be "Why fill up 2 of the remaining 13 pages with common mint sets that can be purchased for about $25-30 each.

I would expect the exhibitor to have much more different material to fill the remainder of the 13 pages rather than another 2 mint sets.

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Well I hope he has since joined up and can add to the debate himself .. we welcome all new members!

Glen
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This is a great thread and definitely got bookmarked. I never exhibited but keep large sections of my collections in exhibition form.



What I do I write the page first in word and include scans of what I am showing. This helps me play around with the location of the covers etc. In doing so - at least for me - and I don't know about in competitive philately, including some scans can make a dull story more interesting! In addition having it in word, if I buy another cover I can change the layout easily and so on. It takes awhile to make one or two pages but then it takes off and is mostly cut and paste.

Here is another one with a scan included.



Here is a loner!



This one I thought it deserved a special sit. Had to be alone on the page like the runner that
delivered it! It is a 'briefstock' letter.

Would anyone care to give some feedback on this type of 'style' ?


Yannis

I am continuing from my previous post so as not to clutter the post!

Here is a strange one and I am wondering how well it would go in an exhibit. First the image!



I have these series of pages tracing postmarks from about 1850-1910 (quite a few of them!!).

I did a bit of detective work, especially with the experimental postmarks where I traced the postmark virtually month by month and bingo I can tell the 'last used' from the 'first day of use'. Now how do you tell this story? My idea was the above and on the next page you can see the new postmark etc..

Yannis

It is excellent threads like this that make me glad to have found Stampboards . However, it also makes me realize that there are not enough hours in the day

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It's good to shoot the breeze with like-minded people.

Plenty of reading here for EVERYONE!

Gary (and others) this is a great post a very informative. I am wanting to start building a exhibit for competitive reasons and I wanted to ask a question.

When building a exhibit is it ok to talk about the idea behind the exhibit rather than focus on the stamps and covers?

What I am wanting to do is put together a exhibit that shows the progressive movement for a Boy Scout to reach Eagle Scout through the display of philately. I am seen on exponet exhibitors doing this (not talking about the stamps directly) but I was not sure if this was the proper way of doing it for competitions or not and would like some feedback.

Thanks,
Adam

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Is this thread still alive? I also have a question. How do I treat full sheets and blocks when exhibiting? I am planning to put together something on the recent Zimbabwean hyperinflationary period but many of my items are full sheets (nicely illustrating the falling value of the Zim dollar, with the margins showing the full value of the sheets just going up and up), they are generally also quite scarce and expensive so I certainly do not want to break them up into smaller blocks. I will use the full sheets to illustrate the many varieties on these stamps, due to the economic crisis and lack of resources. But how do I display full sheets? Do people even exhibit full sheets?

A few suggestions:

You can use oversized pages - double width, double height, etc to show large items.

If only part of a large item needs to be shown, you can cut slits in the exhibit page and slide the piece through from the back.

You can overlay multiple large pieces, leaving only the relevant portions showing.

I have also seen exhibits where a reduced scan of a large item has been shown in place of the real thing, with a statement that it is owned by the exhibitor and can be made available for judges to see. (Personally, I don't care for that one, but sometimes it's the only practical option - especially with a three dimensional object.)

Thanks for putting this post together. I have been wanting to put some of my collections in this type of order.
I have used Word and Publisher to make templetes, but this info has added a new dimension.
This post has given me a new starting point, and a desire to finish what I had started.
I am also glad like others have said that I found stampboards.com.

Cheers

This is fine for non-competitive displays however for exhibiting the rule is "if it does not fit into the frame then it can not be judged", thus photocopies of large items are not allowed.

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Gary,

Great topic and thanks to all.

I am planning an exhibit of covers and i notice that most of the covers, although fairly standard, are about half an inch wider than an A4 page.

How can i solve this re your last post as i dont want to cut or fold the covers.

Thanks.

I posted a single frame exhibit here:

http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=17015

You will see several examples of how to handle these things.

Page 1 has an item that is "windowed", i.e. I only wanted to show a part of a large engraving, so I cut a hole in the paper and mounted it on the back with the relevant portion showing through.

Pages 3 and 12 show overlapped items - a very common technique.

Pages 4, 14 and 15 show large items where I have cut slits in the page and passed one or both ends through these slits, again to show only the relevant portions. (Although, when I photocopied page 4, I had not passed the large cover through slit on the left hand side - oops!)

Page 9 is a double page. Since my printer can't handle it, I printed each page separately, then glued them to a piece of bristol board which I had cut to the correct size. Then I manually completed the "box" line around the piece (a personal approach that I like to use - not everybody "boxes" their items).

Could someone please write about the software and process used to accurately size and position the text and boxes on the exhibition page prior to printing it?

I believe you can use any good word processing sorftware to do that.

I use a program called Albumgen which is designed to produce custom album pages. I find it very easy to use.

I use Corel Draw. After little training you could make excellect pages, especially when displaying larger stamps and covers.

Is it true that modern exhibition frames cannot accomodate A4 pages and if so who is accountable for not making frames fit the most common paper size there is? We did metricate in 1968, didn't we?

If the Swedes can do it, why can't we? "At SKÃ…NELAND 2010 approximately 600 frames will be available for display. The frames have the display dimensions 89 x 119 cm and a capacity for 16 pages size DIN A4 (4 x 4 mounting) or 8 pages size DIN A3."

The explanation is probably no more complicated than the expense of replacing existing frames.

A good reason to be sure, but if true, it would imply that no new frames have been bought by the AFP and associated state bodies since 1968!

And those frames don't come cheap!

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Well, like I said, we metricated over 40 years ago and persisting with frame sizes that don't accommodate standard paper sizes is just another example of the many hurdles facing potential novice exhibitors that they should NOT have to overcome.

If there is anyone out there with a spare 1/2 million who would like to purchase new frames, organised philately would like to hear from you.

As you have seen the PO is cutting back in all areas, it is now only a sponsor and does not bankroll exhibitions, and its funding of organised philately is about to be slashed.

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I would just use Microsoft Word, find the size in mm of your exhibition page and set the custom page size to that. If it fits on the page, you can print it.

Use text boxs for your wording so you can move them around the page till your happy with the result.

Use insert picture boxs for actual size scans of your stamps and covers, again for eye pleasing positioning on each page.

Lay it all out, be happy with the placements, print a draft, if it all fits in real life, print a final copy and mount your exhibit.

With Word you can move each box around by as little as 0.1mm movements.




Gary, that old size suggests to me that the paper is based on the US Letter size? As US letter is about 1cm shorter but wider than A4.

Do pages have to be white? As I can supply, cut to any size less than A3, whatever anyone needs - but the paper is not bright white but a soft cream - as it's museum archival paper.

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Member of the S.T.A.M.P Club for Slightly Twisted And Mad Philatelists - Motto: "Bring back the lick!"

I never meant to imply that all existing frames should be replaced in one go. But I do think that since 1968 any replacement frames or additions to the national stock should have been sized to suit DIN standard pages.

It's interesting to see from this picture:



that Kim Ki-hoon seems to have mounted all of his exhibit on A3 landscape. Also we can see from that image that having 4 pages of text and padding as the intro to the exhibit is no impediment to large gold if the total value of the exhibit is in the region of $500,000.

1. Yes, the frames were based on USA paper sizes.
NOTE: The Archive paper available from the APF store is the correct size and is available in white and off white.

2. Any "light coloured" paper can be used to mount on.

3. The APF have approx 900 frames or 1800 sides, so their has not been a need to replace frames or add to this number as the largest National is 450 frames, so the containers are rotated.

4. For Australia 2013 we will need 3000 - 3500 sides and we will be hiring NZ frames to bring it up to this number. This is a far cheaper method for a once in 10 years exercise.

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Mmm, interesting, I would not have 4 pages without any phialtelic material on it !!!!!

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So out of interest - the page size used here is American Quarto, not A4?

Slightly off topic but after my "One Frame - Adult Development" entry at PALMPEX I have been wondering about where to next.

1/ As I did not get over 70 (just 2 points shy) I can stay in Adult Development and submit 1 or 2 frames next year.
2/ Or I could move my one frame entry (with judges comments addressed) to the FIP 1 Frame class
3/ Or I could extend my one frame entry to 3 frames and enter the FIP Traditional class

The disadvantage of #2 above is that reading the FIP brief on the One Frame class is that the entry should be suitable for a single frame - so a part of an issue, or part of a larger entry cut down, or a 'once over lightly' abbreviated entry is not suitable.

So either I hang around in Adult Development or take the rather large plunge into three frames (without making my entry look stretched out - i.e. need a lot more material).

One thing I have learnt is to read those boring FIP documents on the web site and know that the judges are really just following them.

Good afternoon!

It is important to be au fait with exhibition rules and regulations pertaining to any competitive exhibit.

For example one frame entries at a club competition may score exactly the same marks as at a national exhibition. Extending from 1 frame to 3 can be a huge leap and is fraught with problems - not least the material (needed) aspect. It is important to keep focussed upon telling the story throughout each frame as well as through the exhibit. It is easy to suffer from philatelic droop either from expanding too quickly [duplication, thus having some padding] as well as/or having a weak areas [not enough material].

Without trying to dictate to you what you may wish to do for next year's CPS 100 stamp exhibition in Christchurch, please give some serious thought about whether or not the time frame is suitably short enough for you to obtain and/or write up enough new material to do justice to expanding your 16 pages to 48.

Well done at Palmpex 2010 Stamp Show. I hope that you enjoyed being there? I did! However, I did not judge the adult development class: revenues, youth and open classes were enough for me as well as run the exhibition!

Thank you.

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I would certainly NOT move it to the One Frame class as it is a multi-frame topic.

I would probably give it a 2nd go in Adult Development as a 2 framer.

Many Aussies have found it difficult to get good marks in New Zealand with modern material [ post WWII], many times getting lower results that in Australia or other overseas countries. Mind you it is over 60 years since KGVI died and the 60's and 70's are now 3-4 decades ago..................

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This is a fascinating thread on a daunting subject, but has inspired me to try my hand!

I am thinking about exhibiting some stamps, covers (and later some picture postcards). I have been able to secure photographic reproductions of various proofs of these stamps (and postcards). Are such images generally considered to be appropriate to display in a competitive exhibition? Are they allowed?

Short answer is NO. Only actual items can be used, unless it is a scan/photocopy of a rear of an item already being shown.

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Great. Many thanks for the quick answer!

You can exhibit anything that fits in the frames and is
accepted by the show committee.

But if you expect to get an award, don't include phorographic
reproductions in your exhibit.

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phorographic = photographic

I will use Preview every time.
I will use Preview every time.
I will use Preview every time.

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Now allow me to stir the pot for a bit. The excellent 1 framer posted up here by OttawaMike uses a photograph of a plate proof in the archives of the company that printed the stamp which is the subject of his exhibit. See page two of his exhibition on this thread:
http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=17015

Concerning this, OttawaMike states: "That "proof" is actually a black and white photograph mounted on a very thick card."

The caption used in the exhibition next to this image is: "At left is the unique photo-mechanincal plate proof from the BABN archives." Nothing is mentioned concerning it being a photo, let alone one mounted on card, presumably for added verisimilitude with regard to the original physical form of the plate proof. Of course, the fact that the "proof" exhibited is in B&W, and the plain statement that the plate proof is "from the BABN archives" indicates that what is displayed could not possibly be the original.

Given the statements included in this thread concerning use of photos, this kind of thing would seem to edge close to the boundaries of acceptability in exhibiting.

Is this kind of use of a photo actually acceptable?

I've only ever been to one major exhibition, in Sydney at Randwick Racecourse. I must say I was shocked by the size of the frames & lousy lighting (to protect the stamps?) etc. It was very hard to get a good look at important shade, plate varieties etc.

To the extent that these events are about educating & enticing interest from collectors & potential collectors- & I don't know important that is- this system needs some consideration.

Last year Search4d displayed his KG V 4d collection at the CCC of NSW in the traditional way. He also brought down a large computer system- this was a first for the club- & illustrated the many states in the development of a couple of major flaws. I think most members found it a revelation.

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If you ask 5 judges that question, you might get 6 different
answers. Here's my answer.

You can put anything you like on the Title Page. But if you
put something that's not original on any other page, I would
consider it a negative.

But looking at the referenced exhibit, I'm not seeing the same
thing that you are. "... from the BABN archives" is perfectly
plausible. Material from these archives has even appeared on
Ebay! And nowhere do I see the word "photograph".

What bothers me about the exhibit is that the Title Page has
been completely wasted. There is zero text other than the
title itself. Here's a good summary of what a Title Page should
include.

http://www.chinastampsociety.org/documents/TITLE_PAGE_vs_SYNOPSIS.pdf

Finally I should note that my comments are from the perspective
of a North American judge (APS accredited). Judging in the
rest of the world is often vastly different.

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For possible interest to this discussion is the photograph above.

It was from the Arthur Grray collection and doubltess was shown in his high award winning exhibit. It sold for about $A5,000.

Auction write up is below.

1911 Stamp Design Competition entry by "G.R. Unthank,2½p Map and Kangaroo design, the original entry, as submitted, was photographic, measuring 105x164mm, with the stamp-sized reduction as required by the rules at bottom left, the original artwork does not appear to exist, numbered "94" at top, which is the competition entry number assigned by the Post Office.

This entry, although not a prizewinner, most closely resembles the final adopted design concept of a kangaroo superimposed on a map of Australia, there is no evidence, however, that it influenced the final design and no mention is made of this design in official correspondence.

I assume that with the original artwork being non-existent and with this item being of such importance to the development of the exhibit, a rule exception by the judges would have been made in this specific case.

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Tony

Like everything in life there are "exceptions".

The Arthur Gray one is a good example. The item has beem lost and the photo was taken when it was still around. As I judge I have no problem at all accepting that.

I have a couple of similiar items in my Aden KGVI exhibit, where the originals are in the Queen's collection, and Waterlow before handing them over to the King, took photographic copies, signed them on the date they were taken. Again, in limited numbers they are acceptable. As we all know the Queen, British Library, etc are never going to let one off's be sold.

Where a problem comes is where the original item is in private hands, and thus at some time in the futire could become available.

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You are quite right - the explanation that what is featured is a photo of the original plate proof then mounted on stiff card was offered by OttawaMike (Wed Feb 03, 2010 19:07:55 pm) in a post in response to comments concerning the exhibition, not in the actual exhibition itself.

Fascinating discussion, thanks everyone.

Good afternoon

I am pleased that (Andrew?) crosscrescent not only managed to put together an exhibit and enter competitions but has learned/is still learning about competitive philately. If this thread helps encourage others to take their first steps into competitive philately then all the better for all concerned.

As for the front page item like Gary I have no problem with what goes on the title page to help illustrate the exhibit - stamps, postcards, photos, knives, forks etc as long as it/they are relevant to the exhibit.

There is little point in placing a photo of this month's pin up girl on your title page if it has no connection to the exhibit. Look at this another way - whilst the pin up girl may be interesting, what a waste of space that could otherwise be better used to promote your exhibit!

Mind you, maybe Gary and I wopuld enjoy viewing title pages with pin up girls on - judging might take a little longer that is all - my suggestion is to use the free space (on the title page) wisely.

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