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It seems like there would be at least a few collectors around named PAUL that would really like the perfin in the top row-center!

I would love to find one with my name, but I think it is highly unlikely!

Cheers,
Kristine

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I would imagine it would be quite easy to find a stamp with just a K or K? perfin.

For the sake of accuracy and to help the search engines that should be VIII not V111; depending on the font you display they could look the same but the Roman numerals should use letters in all cases, not ordinary numbers.

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Ok thanks. I will use letters next time.

Thanks Ian for the info.

It appears that Baring Brothers had some different perfins,mine is slightly different from the one posted on link you provided.

Paul

Interesting article on (British) Perfins by British Postal Museum & Archive - http://t.co/2MuyQOd

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Here's a few from me...



This is the earliest one I've seen



Followed by this one



This one has a bit of a nautical theme



This one is supposed to be the ultimate perfin - The Board of Trade!


TTFN, Mike (Not Bruce)

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I was surprised that the article, prepared by somebody from the Perfin Society, didn't mention the two Official perfins which both fell foul of regulations by using the crown.
B<crown>T was the Board of Trade
S<crown>O was His Majesty's Stationery Office.

Whilst the Board of Trade stopped using perfins when told not to use the crown, the Stationery Office changed to HM/SO, which continued through to the 1970s.




(Much of the government's security printing was done on paper watermarked S<crown>O, thus referred to as Scrowno paper.)

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Here are some from Argentina.

http://www.arg3551.com/10-postal-history/postal-history-PERFINs.html

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''Some Deutsches Reich Perfins".... ops, and a Swiss one;)

What about 'most recent' perfins? In Canada, CNR, one of the national railways still used perfins well into the late 1980's. They had numerous perforators in different cities like Winnipeg, Edmonton and Vancouver that served small posts that didn't have modern metering machines. This comes from an article I've printed but I also have an example of my own that is from the mid 80's. With the machines aging and the pins growing dull, the 'CNR' logo has imperfections and missing holes. If I post a picture it will have to be from my computer at work.

Top row AF@SL, HUTH, L@CO, D@O GHP@Co AO and Co WH@HL Second Row JK@S, EK, JT Ltd, MSC IVB, AI@Co, JBH. Mystery one on piece. Only one so far identified is the HUTH one Frederick Huth and CO Tokenhouse Yard EC.

You may have a funny keyboard, or it may be my browser: the symbol I see as (at) should be &

I doubt anybody could work our your mystery on a picture that small - a larger image of that one might bring results.

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Yes of course I was supposed to use & for (at) not so much as a funny keyboard but a funny typer I am afraid. Blown up copy of one I could not really identyfy.

Well that one is split - it must be U N / C º - I think.

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Thank you Norvic. This one is very Graphic please dont view if your sensitive. Actually this is one of better ones I have.

Question.

I have this Italian perf, (appears to be F.P.) which I think is inverted? I'm not sure if that is what you call it. To me, it looks like it is perfed on the wrong side?

Are private perfins worth more if they are "inverted" or just "officials" ?






Thanks
Arlene

Nice - a traffic light perfin gutter pair of the top value!

I think you will find imperfect perfins very common - inverted, wrong side, running off the edge etc. Most perfins I have DON'T seem to be perfect in any way.

Thank you AJ. The stamp I showed was really meant to be an example. Mainly, what I wanted to know was if any "Imperfect" private perfins added to the value of the stamp, in which case, it seems the answer is no, not really, when compared to "Official" perfins eg. O.S. etc.

As you say, private perfins are rarely perfect, where-as official "inverted" etc. are much harder to come by, making them more sought after...

All the best
Arlene

Yes, it was the result of a rescue mission. Stamps had been used but were slowly replaced by franking machines and PPIs. That left the lowest values and £2 & £5. When the internal auditors suggested that the remaining stamps should be turned in to the PO, even suffering the 15% commission charged, one or two of us quickly asked if we could purchase some for full price.

I even offered them to the Perfin Society of GB, resulting in a phone call from the Yorkshire Constabulary CID ! And the Perfin Society didn't offer any to their members so the number actually saved for collectors was very small, and many of them were used privately as novelties - and a surprise to the recipient.

But what are they worth?

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Nice one...

Greetings All!

Perfins are a very peripheral interest of mine.
But I keep all that I come across.
These are my Australian gleanings.
I hope one or two are of some interest.






1.A 10 hole perfin 'A' on Tasmania 2d used in 1902.

2. 'LT / MC' on 6d Roo

3. 12 hole perfin in shape of anchor on NSW 1d

4. 'MC / &Co' inv on NSW 2 1/2d

5.'RA' 3 holes (top of R) and one hole (bar of A)not punched out on 2d of Victoria - very scrappy & poor quality perfin

6.'OS' on 5d of Victoria - standard service perfin

The 'A' on Tasmania and the 'anchor' on NSW rather intrigue me.
Does anybody know anything about them?

Thanks in anticipation,

David

David off the top of my head I seem to recall the A was for George Adams .. the "Tattersalls" bookmakers. Seatch for that word Tattersalls word here - many long sotries on the operation!

Terrific piece I sold here yesterday. Nicely centred joined pair with a normal VG official perfin, "Victorian Government" with the adjoining stamp with a REVERSED perfin!

A dated, Elizabeth Street Melbourne cancel. OFF piece these are a lovely pair but ON PIECE ... you'll never see again.

Here is a very neat Cape of Good Hope 3d with perfin reversed
and inverted.



Perfin inscription is JG: John Garlick firm in Cape Town


Enjoy.

Bump for an interesting thread... I'll add some of mine soon

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Thank you GlenStephens for the pointer to info about the Tattersal's "A" perfin on Tasmania.

Wonder why Heinrich Ruppel had an "H B" perfin?

I recently came across a batch of perfins and whilst looking through became fascinated by them and have started doing some research. There are around 25,000 UK perfins known but only about 50% have been positively identified as yet. Has anybody seen any like these:



I thought at first the perfin had just 'slipped' to straddle two stamps but there are only three letters so it is not that simple. Both are on 1/- wildings which may be coincidence.

Anybody seen anything like this anywhere else?

Looks like D / B C which is probably {anytown-beginning-with-D} Borough Council.

The positioning is odd, as it implies alignment for a taller stamp - but that could only have been the 1939 high-value definitives, or 60s commemoratives as the KG6 definitives were the same size as the Wildings.

Of course it could be an alignment error, which should read B C / D making it Borough Council of {D} though that would be unusual, I would think. But on that basis it could be something like

British Coal / Doncaster - I don't think the National Coal Board was ever British Coal, but you get the idea.

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Hi Ian

I agree that this seems to be potentially a District Council perfin, possibly as you suggest meant for a taller commemorative. The wildings are multiple crown, no phosphor so several commem candidates in that period. Perhaps somebody else on this splendid website has seen something similar?

Regards

Nigel

Here are a few from my collection. This is the perfin for Bell Telephone Company in Harrisburg PA most likely.

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I notice you do not have a 10c Alexander Graham Bell (Famous American series of 1940) Bell Telephone perfin.

I remember reading many years ago that the telephone company bought up several million of the 10c Bell stamp to use on packages, causing mint copies to be worth (i.e., catalog value) about 3 to 6 times as much as the other six "10c" values of the Famous American series. Here are Scott's printing figures and 2008 catalog values for the individual (10c) Famous Americans:

#863, Clemens, 13.2 million - $1.75
#868, Riley, 11.8 million - $1.75
#873, Washington, 14.1 million - $2.00
#878, Addams, 15.1 million - $1.50
#883, Nevin, 13.3 million - $3.75
#888, Remington, 13.6 million - $1.75
#893, Bell, 13.7 million - $11.00

You can see that the printing figures alone do not account for such a huge price difference.

It "might" be due to the fact that the 10c Bell was the last Famous American stamp issued, October 28, 1940.

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I will soon offer four complete sets (of 35) of the Famous Americans in the Sales thread.

I found these perfs while poking through an envelope of rough stuff to throw to my 6 year old daughter. Anything to keep her out of my albums!

Nothing special in them, but very intrugued by the German 'St W' example. The 1/- Victoria 'OS' was NOT given to her





And found this one below too. K under an arch ... McDonalds taking over KFC perhaps?






Glen - thanks for the heads-up on the 'A' Tasmanian perf. I didn't think it would be Australia Post LOL.

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Without consulting my books I'd guess the U is meant to be right side up. So this might be the University of Kentucky or something similar. I'll try to check tonight when I get home.

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I was close, the U k is from the University of Kansas.

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Nice work baldy. A very fitting perf given the 'the ability to write' inscription on the stamp too

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Ahoj everyone!

This is a GB Wilding 4d perfin that I posted on another thread a short while back. It ties the perfin G&G with Gordon & Gotch. Is it already recorded as such?

Incidentally I am selling this cover on eBay at the moment if anyone is interested.



Cheers,

Honza

What is the item number? U.S. eBay?

Hi doug!

Thanks for the interest. I wasn't sure whether posting a link was allowed.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120813279700? ... 1558.l2649

Cheers,

Honza

I'll be curious to see what it brings. I have a few "identified" perfin covers.

Hi and good evening to all, I have a couple perfs from around the planet I like to share, just need to scan the front part so you know where they are from.






The first is a Japanese, I will hurry with the front view scans.

Micky

There was a question here about French and Czech perfins and looking through my stockbook I found I'd got a couple of George V perfins.


A couple of questions:
What do these perfins (the letters) mean?
Why were they put there?
What's the interest to collectors?
Regards
Glyn

Hi Glyn,

I have some perfins myself somewhere and I'm not entirely sure, but I think those perfins were applied by the firms and or government services who bought these stamps from the postoffice for their business correspondence.

I read somewhere enterprises and government services would apply perfins to their stamps to prevent them from being used for other correspondence than theirs, e.g. when employees would use them for personal correspondence or in the case they would have been stolen and sold to other people.

As a result of this, perfins often contain an abreviation of the firms or government's service name, I think. Regarding your perfins, I don't know what these specific stand for.

Perfins are collectable and there are people specializing in perfins. I'm pretty sure there will be some expert perfincollectors among the members of this board Well, I think we can expect some reactions of them the following hours, depending where they just live on the (philatelic) globe

Glyn, there's quite a lot about perfins on the board. Try this thread and then go to the recommended sites and you will get much more information:

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=8846

Someone comments that there are 25000 perfins on British stamps, and only half are identified.

Your high value may be "AN Cooperative Society" - now work out the AN!

Glyn Pope

Here is also a link that might be helpful.

The Perfin Society

Cheers!

Topics Merged.

Glyn

Your Seahorse Perfin is actually the Army & Navy Co-operative Society Limited

See http://www.angelfire.com/pr/perfinsoc/abstracts/2294.pdf

Not uncommon but has many variants.

Nigel

Thanks for that. It is an interesting thread. I found I'd got another postmarked 1962. GB Elizabeth.


Regards
glyn
ps. I've just checked Nigel's link, and that is fascinating. Thank you.