A side-line collection of Canada

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 05:33:29 am

My main collecting area has always been Great Britain, however, like most collectors I have a number of side-line collections that can often spend far to long sat on the shelf where the contents are seen only by a few friends who are aware of some of the subject areas that I have laying about ...

One such area is Canada, and as this recently got pulled off the shelf, I thought that I would scan the contents and share here with other collectors.

This is by no means a specialist collection, (although some who have seen it disagree), but is more one of those things that as a collector, I just enjoy looking at and from time to time, adding to ...

Letter from Quebec to Montreal dated the 4th October 1832. Manuscript dateline at the top and Quebec CDS at left in red.

It has the word Paid in black manuscript at the top right corner and a boxed PAID stamp has been appled in red with the postage rate, (9 pence) added in red manuscript.

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 05:51:00 am

Free Mail - John Prince

Letter from Montreal to Lancashire, England, sent by John Prince MP and dated the 26th December 1844.

The letter travelled via Boston as indicated at top left.

In the United States a PAID mark was added, (top right) with the figure 5 added in manuscript to denote 5 cents internal postage. A second PAID mark was added at the top left with a rate added of 37½ cents - this covering the postage rate to England.

In England the letter was charged with 2/- in black manuscript, (to be collected on delivery), which was the equivalent to the 42½ cents (37½ + 5 cents) denoted in the United States.

There was no postage charge for carriage of the letter in Canada as denoted by the word free above John Prince's signeture at the bottom left.

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 05:59:29 am

Upper Canada - internal use

Letter from Perth UC to Brockville UC dated the 15th February 1847 and showing delivery the following day.

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 06:08:43 am

Pence Issue
3 pence - Beaver

Issued 23rd April 1851
Designed by Stanford Flemming
Probably engraved by Alfred Jones
Printed by Rawdon, Wright, Hatch and Edson
Total production 250,200 sheets

The initial printing was made on laid paper that has a grey appearance.

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 06:22:35 am

3 pence - Beaver
1852

In 1852 the pepr type used for the production of these stamps (as well as some of the other values) was changed from laid to wove. This paper has a creamier / whiter appearance.

Pair cancelled with the 21 numeral obliterator of Montreal.

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 06:38:54 am

6 pence - Prince Albert

Printed in Grey and Grey-Brown shades
Issued 12th May 1851
Engraved by Alfred Jones, based on a drawing by William Drummond
Printed by Rawdon, Wright, Hatch and Edson
Production 100,400 sheets

As with the 3 pence beaver, the initial printing was made on laid paper. This paper has a toned appearence and the stamp printings are generally more grey-brown.

Cancelled with the numeral 14 used at Goderich, Upper Canada

As with the 3 pence value, shortly after the first printing had been made, the paper type was changed from laid to wove. These have a creamier appearance to the paper and the printed impressions are generally more of a true grey printing.

Cancelled by the later type of cancellation consisting of nine bars forming a diamond

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 07:10:00 am

12 pence - Queen Victoria

The 12 pence stamp was printed in brownish-black with some shade variation
Issued on the 14th June 1851
Engraved by Alfred Jones based on a painting by Chalon
Printed by Rawdon, Wright, Hatch and Edson

The total production for this stamp was 5,000 sheets and the stamps were printed on laid paper, which again has a tonned appearance.

From the printing of 50,000 stamps, only 1,450 were distributed to postmasters. It is presumed that all those distributed were sold as there are no records of any being returned or redeemed with the supply office.

The remaining 49,550 stamps were officially destroyed in 1857.

Due to an error in the ledger that was kept by the printers, the Canadian authorities were only charged $10 for the entire production of this value.

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 07:23:30 am

7½ pence - Queen Victoria

This value was issued on the 2nd June 1857
As with the 12 pence value, it was engraved by Alfred Jones based on a painting by Edward Chalon.
The printers were again Rawdon, Wright, Hatch and Edson
Total production 100,080 sheets
Printing was made on laid paper as detailed above

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 07:35:26 am

½ pence - Queen Victoria

Issued on the 1st August 1857
The design was based on a sketch by Henry Griffin who had based his work on a medal produced by William Wyon.

Wyon at this stage was still using the same head design on his medals as he had used for the City of London medal on which the head for the Penny Black and Two Pence Blue stamps of (1840) Great Britain were based.

The printers were the same as had been used for the previous issues

The total production was 2,600,520 sheets

The first printings were made in 100 unit sheets and later this was changed to 120 unit sheets. The earlier printings were made on ribbed paper - the ribbing being horizontal on the 100 unit panes and vertical on the 120 unit panes.

The next series was in 1859 with the change from pence to cents ....

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 07:49:08 am

Cents Issue
General overview

A general page showing the six values issued with the denomination in cents. Each value will be dealt with in the following posts ...

Brummie · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 07:50:45 am

I'm a bit partial to Canadian stamps so am enjoying your topic tallanent.

I wonder if you might like to post your entires on 'Entire Heaven' topic?

http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=384

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 08:07:42 am

Brummie wrote:

I'm a bit partial to Canadian stamps so am enjoying your topic tallanent.

I wonder if you might like to post your entires on 'Entire Heaven' topic?

http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=384

Brummie as requested - they are now in the other thread as well.

Good to see others like the Canada issues ...

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 08:29:47 am

1 Cent- Queen Victoria

Issued 1st July 1859
Printed by the American Banknote Company
Perf = 12
For all other details see the ½ pence of the previous issue
Production total unknown

Bulls-eye cancellation in blue

Killer bars cancellation

Dated examples

Examples in the bright rose shade showing postal and fiscal use

pookie9121 · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 08:53:29 am

Thanks for posting these. I am not very familiar with the early Canada stamps and this is helping me to learn about them.

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 09:05:29 am

pookie9121 wrote:

Thanks for posting these. I am not very familiar with the early Canada stamps and this is helping me to learn about them.

Glad that they are of use ...

Please bear in mind that many of the stamps are not in the best condition - however, they do at least serve as a reference

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 09:32:37 am

5 Cent- Beaver

Issued 1st July 1859
Printed by the American Banknote Company
All other details as for the 3 pence issue of 1851
production 39,100,000 sheets - this spread over 31 printing warrants

The design for the 5 cent was taken directly from the 3 pence stamp

Bulls-eye cancellations - the one on the right with the identification number in the centre

Fiscal use - cancelled in manuscript
The centre stamp showing part of the printers marginal inscription

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 09:51:50 am

5 Cent- Beaver

Example used on cover dated 20th January 1866, showing the standard killer bars used to deface the stamp

Killer bars cancellations as commonly encountered on this stamp

Example cancelled with a circular date stamp in blue.

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:05:40 am

10 cents - Prince Albert

Issued 1st July 1859
Printed by the American Banknote Company
All other details as for the 6 pence issue of 1851

The original issue was made in black-brown (with some shade variations)

In January 1883, proof impressions were made in various shades of violet and soon afterwards the stamp was re-issued in the new colour.

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:50:21 am

12½ Cents - Queen Victoria

Issued 1st July 1859
Printed by the American Banknote Company
All other details as for the 7½ pence issue of 1857

According the the Canadian archives, there were 19 warrants issued for the production of these stamps, as follows ...

1 - 8 = 1,100,000 sheets. These perforated 11¾
9 - 14 = 1,200,000 sheets. These perforated 12x11¾
15 - 19 = 1,200,000 sheets. These perforated 12

Total production = 3,500,000 sheets

By far the most common appears to be those perforated gauge 12

Examples with standard killer bars obliterator of the period
Perf 12

Fiscal use with manuscript cancel
Perf 12

Example with the circular numeral 37 cancellation of Quebec
Perf 12

Killer bars cancellation
Perf 12x11¾

pookie9121 · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:26:28 am

Just out of curiosity, but do you have any idea how much in today's money 12 1/2 cents would be equivalent to?

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:43:12 am

pookie9121 wrote:

Just out of curiosity, but do you have any idea how much in today's money 12 1/2 cents would be equivalent to?

The index that many use is the price of a loaf of bread ...

In 1900 (40 years after this issue - but the earliest I could find on a quick check) - a loaf cost 4 cents and the price given for 2005 was $1-79. Based on this I would guess around the $6 mark. Also note that about the same period (1901), a labourer in Halifax or Montreal would earn about 14 cents per hour and those in Toronto were on a higher wage, about 23 cents per hour.

Buy some food or get a funny green label to send a letter ... I know what my choice would be ..

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:52:05 am

17 cents

Issued 1st July 1859
Printed by the American Banknote Company
Three perf variations ...
11¾
12x11¾
12
Total production over 550,000 sheets

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:08:01 pm

2 cents - Queen Victoria

This was an additional value to the series then in use.

Issued 1st August 1864
Printed by the American Banknote Company
Three perforation types as noted above
All other design details as for the 1 cent 1859 issue

The new 2 cent stamp was based on the original design for the one cent value, with revised wording and numerals added to the corners

Example with the standard concentric rings cancellation

Example with a CDS cancallation, dated the 9th September 1864

From April 1868 standard sets start to appear, starting with the large heads / large queens.

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:27:35 pm

With it now being 2:25am in the UK, I am going to select this as a good point to take a break.

The next issue will follow tomorrow (later today) giving everyone change to take a look and add any comments / corrections as needed

ALLAN

pookie9121 · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 13:26:25 pm

tallanent wrote:

pookie9121 wrote:

Just out of curiosity, but do you have any idea how much in today's money 12 1/2 cents would be equivalent to?

The index that many use is the price of a loaf of bread ...

In 1900 (40 years after this issue - but the earliest I could find on a quick check) - a loaf cost 4 cents and the price given for 2005 was $1-79. Based on this I would guess around the $6 mark. Also note that about the same period (1901), a labourer in Halifax or Montreal would earn about 14 cents per hour and those in Toronto were on a higher wage, about 23 cents per hour.

Buy some food or get a funny green label to send a letter ... I know what my choice would be ..

That is brutal. I would be buying food as well.

jugoslavija_post · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 13:50:09 pm

A SIDELINE collection?!?? :shock:

I'm impressed! :mrgreen:

Global Administrator · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 14:07:48 pm

tallanent wrote:

You have these 2 above in your collection - or they are just auction photos?

Cat on these is £250,000 - yet several $10 type stamps above like the 17c below are bin fodder with chunks and corners missing etc?

I am confused!

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 22:54:13 pm

tallanent wrote:

10 cents - Prince Albert

And also like the one above, badly damaged at top right and with a very crude repair, which is included for the same reason ..

This collection belonged to my grandfather and some (later King George 5th period) items were added by my father when he started collecting. When I started (in the mid 1970's), I added some King George 6th items, and as such this collection is special as it covers three generations of collecting within the family.

For this reason, when the collection was written up in the order as presented here, it was decided, (by my father and myself), that everything, regardless of condition would remain as part of the collection.

Many stamps, such as those shown, (see also the poor condition of the 1 cent of 1859), have trimmed / damaged perfs, bad centering or other faults - and although these would be easy to replace, are included and will remain as part of the collection for the same reasons.

GlenStephens · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 22:57:36 pm

Got it .. that makes sense as the dodgy ones are dollars each!

A M+U 10d is pretty neat. :mrgreen:

A Sydney guy Mark Dankin used to exhibit a PAGE of them which was also pretty amazing.

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 23:03:22 pm

Large Queens

The ½, 1, 2, 3, 6, 12½ and 15 cent values as issued on the 1st April 1868

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 23:10:19 pm

Large Queens
Colour changed

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 23:30:19 pm

Large Queens
5 Cents
Addition of a new value

Issued on the 1st October 1870

This new value was added to the series to cover the registered parcel rate and alsoby the use of two stamps (10 cent rate), postage to British Columbia and Vancouver Island.

Examples with cork cancellations

Example with part of the straight line REGISTERED mark

tallanent · **Posted:** Sun Aug 28, 2011 23:46:20 pm

Large Queens
2 Cents Green

Issued 1st April 1868
Printed by the British American Banknote Company
Production = 10,300,000 sheets

Example with the standard killer bars cancellation

Examples with cork cancellations in the shape of a Maple leaf

A cork cancellation made up of square blocks

tallanent · **Posted:** Mon Aug 29, 2011 00:13:27 am

Large Queens
3 Cents

Issued 1st April 1868
Printer - British American Banknote Company
production - 22,000,000 sheets

Example used on cover from Montreal dated 31st August 1869

Examples with ring cancellations.
Left - 7 concentric rings
Right - 2 rings with number in centre

Example showing three cancellations.
The killer bars as used in Canada ...
A red London (UK) paid mark and
A french arrival mark applied to mail sent from / via the UK

tallanent · **Posted:** Mon Aug 29, 2011 00:31:05 am

Large Queens
15 Cents

Grey shade with pen cancellation

Grey-violet shade with cork cancellation

Killer bars cancellation on the lilac shade

Example in the blue shade which was similar to that used for the 12½ cent value

The 15 cent stamp has a faint postmark and has been additionally cancelled in manuscript to prevent re-use.

tallanent · **Posted:** Mon Aug 29, 2011 00:42:43 am

Large Queens

To conclude the Large Queens issues, below is one of the pages showing cancellations using some of the stamps not included on previous pages ...

tallanent · **Posted:** Mon Aug 29, 2011 03:16:52 am

Small Queens

Over a period of time from January 1870 to August 1893, new designs were issued to replace those already in use. These were printed from a new set of plates that are generally refered to as Small Queens, Small Heads or sometimes the Small cents issues.

3 cents

The engraving already done by Charles Henry Jeens formed the basis for these stamps, (see above)

The portrait of Queen Victoria was engraved by Alfred Jones
The lettering and frames were engraved by Henry Earle Sr.
Printed by the British American Banknote Company
Printings made at Ottawa, Montreal and then a later production returning to Ottawa

General examples showing shade variations, all with cork cancellations

tallanent · **Posted:** Mon Aug 29, 2011 03:39:26 am

Small Queens
3 cents

First Ottawa printing

The first printing was made in Ottawa from 1870 to 1874. Thus anything dated 1873 or earlier has to be from this production and forms the basis for assigning other examples.

The paper used in this period was fine and smooth and is silky to the touch

Example on cover dated the 3rd November 1873

in addition to the dates of use, the early plates used at Ottawa had a small dot in the bottom left corner

The stamp from the cover above showing the plate dot

Worn impression showing the plate dot at bottom left

tallanent · **Posted:** Mon Aug 29, 2011 04:22:33 am

Small Queens
3 cents

Second printing - Montreal

From 1874 to 1888, production was transfered to montreal.

For this production period good quality wove paper was used.

As before, items dated 1887 or earlier must be from this or the earlier production and with examples on hand, the paper types can be seperated to correctly assign the printing.

Pair used on cover to London, England dated the 2nd April 1884

Enlargement of the pair from the above cover.
Both stamps show the plate dot at the bottom left corner.
Some of the early plates (those showing the dot) were employed at Montreal for the second printing

A block of 4 from the Montreal printing, dated 19th April 1876

An example from a later plate used at the montreal printing which does not have the plate dot. Dated 13th November 1895

tallanent · **Posted:** Mon Aug 29, 2011 05:25:29 am

Small Queens
3 cents

Third printing - Ottawa

From 1888 to 1897 production was transfered back to Ottawa
At this time poor quality coarse paper was used for the printings

None of the early plates, (with the plate dot), were still in use, so examples without this dot are most often from this of the Montreal printing and the paper types should allow correct assignement.

I have several pages that show various postmark types, but will here just show one item to illustrate the stamps ...

Strip used at Calgary, 17th August 1891

tallanent · **Posted:** Mon Aug 29, 2011 05:47:32 am

Small Queens
3 cents

perforations

This value is very common, but due to the method of perforating, variations in the size of the stamp are often encountered. Examples of this are shown below ...

tallanent · **Posted:** Mon Aug 29, 2011 06:00:01 am

Small Queens period
3 cents

To finish off the 3 cents value, the cover below was posted in the period that these stamps were in general use.

Posted from Loughboro to Ontario on the 6th February 1872
The postage has been paid in case rather than by the use of stamps and is shown by the large PAID 3 mark in red

tallanent · **Posted:** Mon Aug 29, 2011 07:44:27 am

Small Queens
1 cent

The 1 cent value was produced at the 1st Ottawa printing and the Montreal printing. There was no production of this value on the return to Ottawa (the 3rd printing).

Issued 15th March 1870

The distinction between the two production sites used for this value is simple ...

The stamp in yellow (shades) - producedat Ottawa

The stamp in orange (shades) - produced at Montreal

tallanent · **Posted:** Mon Aug 29, 2011 07:59:04 am

Small Queens
1 cent yellow
Ottawa printing

Again, I have pages showing various cancellation types and dates, but I will post here only a piece ...

1 cent stamp added to a 1 cent pre-printed postcard to make the 2 cent rate to England.

Cancelled at Hamilton, 20th August 1896

Brummie · **Posted:** Mon Aug 29, 2011 08:30:31 am

Quote:

This collection is special as it covers three generations of collecting within the family.

I wish we could all say these words above tallanent, it's Priceless!

tallanent · **Posted:** Mon Aug 29, 2011 08:57:33 am

Small Queens
2 cents

As with the 1 cent value, this was printed at the first ottawa and Montreal productions only. The problem with this value is that although shade variations are noted, they are very subtle, and (at least to my eyes), help very little in seperating the printings.

The best method for assigning these is to check the paper, (as noted on the 3 cents above), fine smooth paper that is silky to the touch on the Ottawa printings and good quality wove paper used at Montreal.

The Montreal prints to my eye, (when you have several side by side), always appear to be a little paler and look a little more blue ... I will let you decide from the scans below ..

Ottawa printings

Montreal printings

Once again, there are pages showing cancellation types, dated examples and narrow and wide perforated stamps, which would just be duplicating what has been shown above in a different colour.

tallanent · **Posted:** Mon Aug 29, 2011 09:00:54 am

Brummie wrote:

Quote:

This collection is special as it covers three generations of collecting within the family.

I wish we could all say these words above tallanent, it's Priceless!

sadly - none of my children are intrested in collecting, but one grand-daughter is showing some signs of getting into collecting - (we can but hope).

Brummie · **Posted:** Mon Aug 29, 2011 09:54:47 am

If you tell them they are worth a fortune they will be very attractive to them, money talks. Then when they are looking at values and they aren't worth what they thought, it will be too late as they will be hooked

pookie9121 · **Posted:** Mon Aug 29, 2011 14:49:56 pm

Thanks for continuing to share the early Canadian stamps with us. I have learned a great deal from it. A very impressive "side-line" collection as well.

pookie9121 · **Posted:** Mon Aug 29, 2011 15:07:26 pm

What other side collections do you have? I would be curious to see them if they are anything like this one.


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