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I know a little about these unique stamps but dont really know how rare they are and if there even valuable. They are not listed in the scott. If anyone has any info about these issues it would be great. I soon hope to sell these at some point.

There are thousands of local and Civil War-related issues
from this period, and no doubt a specialized catalog.

The general Unificado Catalog lists a few regional Franco
stamps.

Ayamonte is a smallish town at the extreme southwestern
corner of Spain, on the (inner) Atlantic coast; I have the
topmost stamp, so it can't be rare.

I have a few of these, too - and have seen them for sale in markets in various Spanish towns on several occasions for only a few cents (both with and without the "Franco" overprint).

But, even if not valuable, they are still part of a very interesting period in Spanish History and stand as a document of the terrible war of the late 1930s in Spain.

Here are some Spain "Franco" issues...
Are any of these considered scarce? Also Scott listing would very helpful as well. Thank you.

Santos760,

Nothing rare there, sadly

Also, the condition of some of these seems poor - a number of them seem to have brown staining around the edges, which will reduce value further.

And the last two you showed are earlier "regular" Spanish stamps, not Spanish War Local issues.

Sorry to be the bringer of bad news.

MODERATOR COMMENT:

Santos, I hope you don't mind, but I have merged two of your topics to put the Spanish Civil War Local stamps here in one place.

Hopefully other members of Stampboards will add to this interesting area, and I think this is more likely given a single thread with this title.

If you are not happy with this, please let me know and accept my apologies for interfering.

Gavin

PERSONAL COMMENT:

Santos, thank you for inspiring me to dig out some old stamps I haven't looked at for many years - I will add some scans now.

Coincidentally, I have a book full of these running now:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110512718887

just to give you an idea of how many different ones there are.

As promised, a few more examples from the Spanish War.

Both sides - Nationalist (Fascist, Franquistas) and Republican (Communist, Socialist, Anarcho-syndicalist etc) produced numerous stamps and labels for a variety of purposes, most of which boiled down to either propaganda, fund-raising, or both...

The examples in this scan, some of the simplest designs possible, would have been used in the same way as "obligatory tax" stamps.

All mail from the particular area for a certain period of time would have been obliged to carry one of these labels in addition to the normal postage stamps. The proceeds from the sale of the label would have been channeled to the various causes - social assistance, local assistance, refugee aid, war effort and so on.

As an aid to identification of which side was which, the stamps with the colours of the Spanish Flag (Red/Yellow/Red) and the words "Viva Espana" or "Arriba" (or of course the name or image of Franco) would typically be Nationalist.

Those including words such as "Social" and "Comite" (="Committee") would typically be Republican. Images of stars, clenched fists, hammers and sickles etc are also pretty obviously Republican,and slightly less obvious were issues with initials of the Trade Unions/Militias, such as CGT, PSU, POUM etc.

Both sides used stamps "Pro Guerra" ("For the War"), and issued inscribed with town names.

It's not always immediately obvious, but usually they can be "decoded" without too much difficulty.

Various "Social Assistance" labels for the town of Denia.

These are somewhat more sophisticated designs, with die-cut perforations and high quality of production.

Issues were made for peasants (=refugees), soldiers, war wounded, orphans and nurses.

I have not seen used examples of these (although they are fully gummed), and it is likely that most were sold to collectors

In my experience, most of these were sold to collectors, and are much easier to find mint than used or on cover (along with regular stamps, since none of these issues actually paid postage, despite the efforts to make them look like "real" stamps -- in effect they were local postal tax stamps).

More assistance labels, some of them overtly "Left" in design - such as the clenched fist "Red Aid" stamp and the Communist "Komsomol Star".

All these would have been produced in Republican areas (or, rather "for" Republican areas, as some may have been produced by sympathisers abroad)

Examples of Nationalist local overprints on regular postage stamps.

Typically, these were "Liberation" issues, giving the date on which the town in question was captured by Franco's armies.

Finally, to prove they did occasionally get used, a 5c "Pro Sevilla" (= "for Seville" stamp alongside 2 x 30c regular postage stamps on a censored cover from Spain to England.

This (though not entirely clear on the scan) is dated 24 February 1936.

Probably the only catalog that lists these issues is the 1960 Galvez. I've been
looking for one for over 20 years and a few weeks ago I got lucky.

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santos760 - I extracted the listings that cover your stamps from Galvez.

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These last two stamps are not of Civil war like it can estimate easily.
The first one is a stamp issued in in 1899 of the King Alfonso XIII to the age of three years. (East king was born in 1886 already being A King, since his father Alfonso XII died when his wife, the Queen Maria Cristina was embarrassed. To these stamps one names them "del pelón" (of the bald one) For the lack of hair that he was presenting of small.



The stamp to the right of this one is of 1901 and presents the same King little before reaching the adult age (1902)
To this series she is known of familiar form as "del cadete" (of the cadet), for the cadet's uniform that the King takes put.



The first series of the bald one is 16 more values his varieties (of 2c to 10p) and the second one of the cadet of 15 values more varieties (of 2c to 10p).

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-Salud que tengamos, que hambre no nos va a faltar.

-Gavin, i am sorry to say to you that with the exception of the last one, the overload of other stamps is false.
Jagged of these stamps since you can see it is 13 1/2, which indicates that they were issued in 1949 (10 years after finished the war!!). It is a question of a fraudulent overload created by some speculator.

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-Salud que tengamos, que hambre no nos va a faltar.

Jose,

Gracias! Thank you for this advice - I was uncertain of these, because the styles and "feel" of them is all very similar, and you have given me some valuable information here.

But I am not worried that they are fakes, because they only cost me a few pennies. They are still interesting and useful for reference - and now I know what to look for to try and find some genuine stamps.

Thank you again.

By the way, in your earlier post when you said Queen Maria Cristina was "embarrassed", I think this was a translation error and the term you were looking for was "pregnant" (ie. "with child") - this is an amusing example of the powers of language - and please do not be concerned because your English is much better than my Spanish

Great thread .. LOVE the corner perfs on these -

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Glen,

Yes, they're obviously "die-cut" but with full gum on the back - not self-adhesive. And the paper is almost card-thick.

Very good quality, and pretty obviously not produced in the middle of a war-zone. Probably produced abroad on behalf of the organisations they purport to raise funds for. And I wouldn't be surprised if some of these things had never been anywhere near Spain

The majority of these stamps were not printed abroad, but in Valencia (Spain) in a local press and many of them they circulated really in letters.

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Is this one? I am trying to find anything on what this is?

Issued in 1954; low value in a set of 5.

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Great thread!

It has helped me to sort out a few pages of these issues I found in a specialised collection of Spain picked up a few years ago as part of an auction lot. This has been kicking about for some time awaiting the information provided by this thread.

Sadly this provisional is only on piece, but at least it definately has been used and the card it's on looks like it would have been a beauty, if someone hadn't butchered it. Endorsed Spain via G on the back I take it it went via Gibraltar as shown on this side. Is it worth sticking on ebay for a couple pounds or is it valueless ?

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Donald.
Aus KGV Head Addict !

There is a VERY LARGE on-line catalogue for all Spanish non postal adhesives, including Civil War local issues.

Be warned, it is HUGE running into many thousands of pages and rather badly laid out, in Spanish only, it does not price the various issues but give a rarity factor. The upside is that is free at the same time as being the most comprehensive work available on the subject and constantly being updated.

http://www.catalogoselloscasandra.es/

It does seem Edifil has embarked on a program to produce a printed catalogue of the Civil War local issues.
Volume I - Cataluña
Volume II - Valencia, Murcia y Baleares
Volume III- Andalucia (Part 1)
are currently available at 80€ each. At this rate they should cover the whole country with 10-12 volumes. A pretty outlay! Ouch!

I just recently broke a large collection on Delcampe. More than 200 different lots remain here:
http://timbres.delcampe.net/page/list/cat,7805,id_member,00034470,language,F.html

Memphre on Stampboards and on Delcampe

Ahoj memphre!

The first link you mention ending in ....andra.es was blocked as malware by my anti-virus system.

Has anyone else experienced similar problems?

Cheers,

Honza

Honza

The anti-virus warnings have now gone from the site
http://www.catalogoselloscasandra.es/

I recommend the site to anyone having an interest in Spanish stamps and cinderellas. The Civil War stamps and cinderellas section is only part of the content: cinderellas from other periods and legitimate stamps are also covered in great detail.

Regards

Memphre

I would appreciate a view on this block I found in a whole load of dealers stock I recently bought.

It was labelled as Spanish Civil War propaganda cinderella stamp inverted, but are they forgeries and if not how did this end up inverted or where they not block printed?



Lastly would anyone be able to help with potential value?

Many thanks
regards
Mick

Mick,

Definitely not a forgery, but almost certainly deliberately printed this way (Ukraine did similar things with overprints in the early 1990s!).

Why? Simply to "create" an "error" for collectors.

Value? Probably a little more than a non-invert block. If I saw this for a quid, I'd probably grab it. If it was a fiver, I probably wouldn't.

Gavin

Many thanks for your reply, it did occur to me after that it was probably a contrived piece, to boost sales for the effort.

regards
Mick

Here's the listing for this issue from the 1960 Galvez catalog



Note that a tête-bêche pair is priced at 20 times a single.

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