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There is yet another 5/- Harbour Bridge ANPEX facsimile on sale on eBay, without a disclaimer, and starting at AUD 20. The seller tlccustoms81 appears to be innocent of stamps and does not know what he is selling.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1932-5-HARBO ... 3cc28c1659





Norm

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Geelong, VFA Premiers 1878, 1879, 1800, 1882, 1883, 1884, 1886, AFL Premiers 1925, 1931, 1937, 1951, 1952, 1963, 2007, 2009, 2011, .

...plus another $10 postage to Australia or another $20 postage international.

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Plus he calls it a SET but is missing the 3d Blue,

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He knows the 5/- is a rare stamp but starts it at $20? I think you are being far too kind, Norm.

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Peter
Hawthorn - AFL Premiers 1961, 1971, 1976, 1978, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 2008.

$10 postage cost on 3 stamps?


And people complain when it costs $30 or $40 to send a massive carton across the country.

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For anyone out there in the wide Ebay world who might be tempted.

http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=t ... =EBN-2.0.6

So tlccustoms81 has terrible feedback from reading that link, a total of 9 Negatives / Neutrals.

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Oh and worldwide post to send these """""""""""""""""RARE """""""""""" stamps is of course $20.00, when all seller will require is a DL sized envelope with two dollars something worth of stamps.

Maybe he thinks the souvenir facsimilies torn out of their mini sheets are rarer than the originals?

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Greg - Looking for Goulburn Australia Cancels and Grangemouth Scotland Cancels and Covers
Member of the S.T.A.M.P Club for Slightly Twisted And Mad Philatelists - Motto: "Bring back the lick!"

How many mini sheets were made?

"In used condition"
"Never been hinged"

Got to be premium for that combination

Folks there is an icon lower right of all lots.

"Report This Item"

Click that and state it is forged. End of item once a half dozen reports come in.

PREMIUM EXAMPLE OF AUSTRALIA'S MOST FAMOUS STAMPS

THE 1932 5/- GREEN HARBOUR BRIDGE.

AND THE 1932 2d RED HARBOUR BRIDGE.

THE GREEN IS AUSTRALIA'S RAREST COMMEMORATIVE STAMP

HAS EXCELLENT COLOUR

IN USED CONDITION

NEVER BEEN HINGED

AND is reduced in size compared to the original,
but two "rare" reduced 'roos may also be about to come onto the market.

The seller has ended the listing. The item is 'no longer available'.

Don't ya just love "People Power"

I've said it before and I'll say it again until the cows come home:

This facsimile or in fact any facsimile of an original stamp should never have been printed - full stop

If there was the need to get some extra money in government coffers then these should at least be marked properly and not just with a CTO type cancel.

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Tony

The facsimile was not a Government production. It was printed to raise money for the ANPEX exhibition, presumably by the exhibition organizers.

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Peter
Hawthorn - AFL Premiers 1961, 1971, 1976, 1978, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 2008.

Peter, I meant this as a generic comment on facsimiles not specifically to that issue.

I am not aware of any facsimile ever being issued by the Post Office, not in the original colours anyway. I doubt the authorities can stop reproductions of obsolete stamps from being produced.

I agree, however, that any such facsimile should be in a colour other than the genuine article. That would put paid to such problems.

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Peter
Hawthorn - AFL Premiers 1961, 1971, 1976, 1978, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 2008.

Even the London 2010 £1 PUC reproduction is a danger to new collectors due to the similarity to the original.

There was also a colour change reproduction which is a safer item to float around the stamp world.

I realise that this is a bit off topic, and if an interesting discussion develops, I will use my Green Lantern Power Ring and break it off into it's own thread.

Peter, how would you describe these? Let's say pre-decimals take off at some point, and the 2/3d once again reach AUD 25 - 30 (yes, I know how unlikely this is), we have here a reproduction by Australia Post which matches the original (I don't know about the perfs though)



Note: I don't own these - image taken from eBay

Norm

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Norm, I had forgotten those. Beats me why the PO ever did something so stupid, to be honest.

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Peter
Hawthorn - AFL Premiers 1961, 1971, 1976, 1978, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 2008.

Norm I just checked the perfs on my copy and they are 14.5 x 14. The originals are 14.25 x 14.75

And 90% of buyers won't know the difference.

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Peter
Hawthorn - AFL Premiers 1961, 1971, 1976, 1978, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 2008.

Wouldn't the Post Office hold the copyright?

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With kind regards, Jim

Copyright expires after a certain time.

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Peter
Hawthorn - AFL Premiers 1961, 1971, 1976, 1978, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 2008.

Copyright allows the "owner", for a fee, to licence out the right to make reproductions, as Australia Post (then the Postmaster General's Department) did in 1956 for the images of the Melbourne Olympic stamps.

Norm

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Geelong, VFA Premiers 1878, 1879, 1800, 1882, 1883, 1884, 1886, AFL Premiers 1925, 1931, 1937, 1951, 1952, 1963, 2007, 2009, 2011, .

Australia Post holds copyright on Australian stamps for fifty years after issue.

With the ANPEX Minature sheets being issued in 1972, both the Bridge and 'Roo replicas would have still been copyright.

Here is the 1956 Melbourne Olympics facsimile Miniature Sheet, or replicas if you prefer, printed and sold by a Private Company, with the PMG's approval, in, I believe, 1957. (Sorry about the scan, it was the only one I could find.



Norm

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Geelong, VFA Premiers 1878, 1879, 1800, 1882, 1883, 1884, 1886, AFL Premiers 1925, 1931, 1937, 1951, 1952, 1963, 2007, 2009, 2011, .

I could have claimed this as my own, but with respect for Simon, I won't.



http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=9035&p=384719&hilit=ANPEX#p384719

So, 30,000 in all, which theoretically makes them twice as rare as the real thing, which had 72,000ish.

At the rate these are being torn to shreds and offered on eBay as "real" singles, the complete sheetlets will finish up being very rare indeed.

And still worthless.

Norm

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Geelong, VFA Premiers 1878, 1879, 1800, 1882, 1883, 1884, 1886, AFL Premiers 1925, 1931, 1937, 1951, 1952, 1963, 2007, 2009, 2011, .

Norm,


Australia Post presumably okayed the reproduction for ANPEX as they do for almost any stamp/philatelic show. They can and do sometimes charge a licensing fee.

Clive

Anyone for a imperf 1d Kangaroo?

Issued by Australia Post.

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Norm, Thanks for the link and information.

Paul - they'd be worth fifty $ each on eBay.

Paul, images in a book don't count as facsimiles in the strict sense of the word.

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Peter
Hawthorn - AFL Premiers 1961, 1971, 1976, 1978, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 2008.

Peter,

They are issued on gummed paper, both imperf and perfed.

There is a very small microprinted year of issue at lower left on the 1d roo.

They are another short lived Australia Post issue/series of products.

The book contained other perf and imperf issues.

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I stand corrected. I have given up worrying about what Australia Post issues these days.

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Peter
Hawthorn - AFL Premiers 1961, 1971, 1976, 1978, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 2008.

is it diferent paper or how can you tell spose it takes are good eye

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Such is Life.

Kathy we type in formal Engish here please. Please leave lazy text-talk for text messages. Thanks.

Your FIRST post should be in "Roll Coll" as per your initial email received clearly stated.

If you mean the 5/ Bridge, then the easiest way to tell is probably that they all have the same double cancels in the same lower corners.

But in the flesh, the paper is different, as is the perfs, the size, the printing and probably the colour.

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Greg - Looking for Goulburn Australia Cancels and Grangemouth Scotland Cancels and Covers
Member of the S.T.A.M.P Club for Slightly Twisted And Mad Philatelists - Motto: "Bring back the lick!"