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Edifil catalogue says: "stamps of this issue are usually mis-centered."
As I say: the rare stamps are those with perfect centering.

Jjaime,

Many stamp collectors dislike stamps which are not well centered, have wing margins or have perfins. Personally I like stamps with perfins or wing margins, but dislike stamps which are not well centered. I consider a stamp as a piquage à cheval variety if at least 25% of the stamp is affected.

As for how many exist, a whole sheet (I don't know how many stamps there were in 1 sheet) was printed with this variety. How many survive to this day is a different story.

As a conclusion, the stamp is worth a minimal amount. However if you put it up on eBay as a variety, you might get someone willing to buy it.

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The catalogue only says what I show in the image. I suggest you to ask in the spanish forum (Agora de filatelia). There are specialised collectors. They can tell you if this kind of varieties are collected or not. My guess is, since the spanish catalogue says miscentered are common, that centered stamps are much preciated.

Regards
Ernesto

Rare stamp perforation varieties very often have the exact existing numbers known. That's because the philatelic community, ever since the stamp was printed, has gained information from both printer's records and/or auction results to arrive at the quantity that still exist.

Common or even slightly rare stamps with minor perforation varieties such as this normally don't have a recorded total number that still exist, there are just too many of them and they are not of sufficient interest to collectors or dealers.

Agree, and the catalogues also say most of this issue is BAD centred. That is a FACT.

So value is 20p for a nice centred one - and nothing for a bad centred one.

That is the stamp value - not sure why Jjaime cannot understand that?

His concern is relevant and understandable. I do not care with centered stamp issued. Of course, your opinion is important but not unique. Show me another stamp as the same and we ended the discussion. If you can. One who has another 3 mm of another stamp on the same issue. Piquage à cheval or
Dentado desplazado hacía abajo or SALTO DE PEINE. And you? Can you understand that?

Otherwise, see: http://marcophilie.org/philatelie/glop.html
http://timbreposte.free.fr/marianne/piquage.html
http://www.ebay.com/itm/France-Y-T-N-30b-brun-noir-Piquage-Cheval-40-VF-/400213058822?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2e8ea506#ht_500wt_1158
http://foro.filateliaargentina.com.ar/viewtopic.php?f=119&t=6646

And in two significant groups on Facebook, where I learned what is a Piquage à cheval or Dentado desplazado hacía abajo or SALTO DE PEINE. Finally, an EFO.

I don't see why you to refuse to understand... The value of a stamp is not only related to its rareness, it's obviously related to the people interested in this stamp! If nobody is looking for this kind of micro-varieties, the it is a stamp of 20 cents.
I collect revenes from Argentina. I have lots of stamps that, as far as I know, I'm the only one who has them. For instance, stamps from little towns from 50s to 70s... I pay for them very little cash, since there are no market for such stamps.
I hope you finally understand... If not you can keep believing you have a treasure.

Regards
Ernesto

You don't seem to want to take anyone's opinion here so a small suggestion for you.

Why not go to a reputable dealer or auction house and ask them how much your stamp is worth

They will know exactly what the market is for your example and whether it is valuable in that perf. condition or not.

Remember dealers see far more stamps and their varieties than normal collectors ever will.

Jjaime,

A stamp's value is not necessarily determined by how many exist. It also depends on how many people actually want it. For example, there are very few perfins on Malta stamps, but cost very little as no one wants them. On the other hand there are stamps which are expensive but there are a lot in existence.

It's all about supply and demand. If there is no supply but no demand, IT IS NOT WORTH ANYTHING. If there is no supply but there is demand, then it is worth a lot.

Your stamp might be rare, but that doesn't mean it's valuable.

PS. I had a look at your posts, and they were all in this thread. I know you have been a member for a while now, but you still need to do your introductory post here:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10277

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I quote Hiscocks catalogue of "Telegraph & Telephone Stamps of the World":

"THESE STAMPS ARE USUALLY POORLY CENTRED"

This man was asking the same on Agora de Filatelia (Spanish stamps forum) during the last weeks, and he was told (by true spanish stamps experts) that such stamp is very common, including salto de peine variety and it is not worth anything. I don´t understand this kind of behavior.

Regards.

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Post tenebras spero lucem

Thanks for that advice Little censor

So it appears he doesn't want to listen to the experts in that board either

You are completely wrong. And you are many unethical, crossing information between forums. They found no other same stamp. This is just to regulate your knowledge about this. You need to learn rules of behavior among participants. I'm not only in AGORA now. I'm in many others. And none of them could show me a equal stamp. Show me you. And "this man" has a name, a nation and a family. If and when I want, you just you talk to me, if mention my name.

Show to us.

I'll answer and then I go through the link sent by you to my introductory post. I'll ask one last time. Show a same stamp. Only one.

I just read this entire thread, the failure to understand here is painful.

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The interest is in quantity. Ok. So if many were printed, there are many equal stamps. If not, the rarity of something, is in its small quantity. And this don´t have nothing that can change.

I totally agree with you. It´s painful to know that we can not see another equal stamp. Show me another one equal stamp, and I'm leaving. We do not talk more about rarity and other painful things.

You have a "lots of stamps that" Ernesto? So you have many? Gracias.

SUPREME!Please understand! Where is the difficulty? Show me a equal stamp. I do not want to sell!

Ok. What do you want? Apart from someone to show a stamp like yours... Why do you want that? Once you see another one, what? You will claim you have one of the two only known varieties?

Ernesto

You do not believe what you are told is in a major catalogue, that you do not own?

This is like watching a train wreck in progress.

I think the only EFO here is the Original poster !!

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Am I wrong?.
So you´re not asking on Agora de Filatelia, doesn´t it?.
Am I "unethical"?. Just your opinion. I don´t think so. I was trying to avoid other colleages to waste their time on this nonsense discussion.
You say that you don´t want to sell the stamp. But on the other hand, you said:
[/quote]Yes, this week when I have access to the album. I have already explained what I learned here in the FORUM for the owner of the stamp. Thank you.[/quote]
Is this poorly centred stamp yours or not?. If not, then you don´t want to sell it, simply YOU CAN´T.
Let me tell you one thing about why anybody else seems to own that kind of poorly centred stamp (you call it EFO, true collectors call it DEFECT). Because serious collectors try to find PERFECT or RARE stamps, not damaged or badly printed. That´s why you´ll never can´t find your PCS (poorly centred stamp, again) on any professional catalogue, like EDIFIL, SCOTT or so.

Good luck with your (yours?) Poorly Centred Stamp crusade.

Regards.
Jose M.

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Look, MAYBE there are no equal stamps, but the truth is that NO PHILATELIST IS INTERESTED IN A STAMP LIKE THAT!

Why can't you

that the stamp is only worth 20c (on a good day). You joined Stampboards, asked a question, and YOU GOT YOUR ANSWER!

On the 14th of January, you wrote:

You got your answer - NO!!!!

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I agree with Little censor, he did nothing wrong by mentioning your (?) post on Agora de Filatelia. If they told you pretty much the same thing, then that is more proof that your stamp has no value.

Why can't you understand that if nobody wants it, it doesn't matter how unique the stamp is. If you want to keep believing that you have a rarity, fine, but please do not waste other people's time by asking them about this ''rarity''. If you still refuse to understand, go to a local dealer and ask him how much it is worth (although dealers have already said that your stamp is worth nothing in this thread).

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Looks like the only thing that will finalize this topic is if someone out there can go through their collection and find a stamp (preferably a lot of stamps) exactly like our friend's horribly mis-perfed example.

Load it into this topic so we can finally put this delusion to rest - PLEASE

... or just stop feeding the troll and let him talk to himself.

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Nah, where's the fun in that

Nobody cares!

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He doesn't want to buy one because he prefers a well-centered stamp and NOT because he is not able to buy one.

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Anonymous

In my 5 years here on Stampboards, I can honestly say this is the greatest example of someone who doesn't understand that they may possibly be wrong about something yet keeps on going at it regardless. A train wreck indeed

Agree.

I'll lock this thread now as it is done to death.

In the meantime I can offer anyone with $1000 spare this UNIQUE 2c Queen with the rare 'RED MARK ON NECK' flaw.

CAN ANYONE SHOW ME ANOTHER???????????????????



I know it is only catalogued 5 cents but I have decided no other copy EXISTS!

Glen, I will see your queen and raise with a clown riding a bike on a Barbed Wire Fence. Uniquer!






Norm

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