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Hamilton is now recorded 1907 to 1937. The last known Hammond is 1924.

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Phoebes.
If that scuff was the other side, under the emu, it would pass as a nice find.
no major variety listed.

I wasn't game to comment on the squared circle PM, good luck Micky.
I'm still uncertain if actual stamps are required for the CL wiki.
I think the guys are looking for blocks, with varietys attached and containing compartment lines, to prove or disprove the recent studys, its a massive undertaking, but it could shed light on the discusion about plates used during difficult times if they are captured correctly.

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Any help with this 2d guys, I don't have any checklists for this value. The words TWO PENCE seem a bit fuzzy.

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Any help with this 2d guys, I don't have any checklists for this value. The words TWO PENCE seem a bit fuzzy.

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Hi Donald,

I have a few 2d Die 1 where the 'W' and 'N' of the CVT are heavily inked, but they were different electros, going by the date, and I could not plate them.

Disregarding the CVT, your example could be identified by the left end missing to the 18th oval shading line (counting up) behind the Kings neck as 10R51. Electro 10 usage was April 1922 to May 1923, and your stamp is dated June 1923.

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I am looking at this (sadly ink stained) 1 Penny and can't find the emu! :wink:
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Hi everyone, still green I see :P . I just recieved these two today and I am not sure if the poor emu on the ½d is just overinked or something else and possible flaws on the crown, no matter it looks pretty cool in a way. And the 1½d has a couple small flaws around the ½ value, both KGV are crown over A wmk.
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Hi everyone, still green I see :P . I just recieved these two today and I am not sure if the poor emu on the ½d is just overinked or something else and possible flaws on the crown, no matter it looks pretty cool in a way. And the 1½d has a couple small flaws around the ½ value, both KGV are crown over A wmk.
Any thoughts? 50 cents went a long way this time :D
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Micky:

Your ½d is the "headless emu" variety - 6L52. Nice dated example.

Same as my copy.


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I am looking at this (sadly ink stained) 1 Penny and can't find the emu! :wink:
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Closest I can come up with is with the compartment lines they go close to matching 3/6

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Again closest I can come up with.

Left wattle spray and shading: Right end missing of the part of the 2nd line (counting
down) at left of leaf, with a horizontal gash below, almost completely severing leaf. In
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O.K., let's see if third times the charm.
One more for your help.
Have you see this particular neck/beard flaw before?


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If not, it goes in the "Close, but no cigar page" :D With the other two you looked at for me

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Any thoughts on this ½d guys ? Circular like flaws at Kings Temple. Would have thought of 4R60 but I showed that one a few pages back.

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first 1/2 red , no idea. I was gonna say tin shed, but there is a break that may be something.
second, you must have missed the discussion over this particular stamp, scroll back.
third, the tin shed has been answerd correctly above.

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Hoping I could get some plating help with these ones please. Hopefully learn something along the way. Thank you in advance.

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White Spot in Crown. Does not appear to be thin
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Is This a Broken Neck Emu? WMK Inverted
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first 1/2 red , no idea. I was gonna say tin shed, but there is a break that may be something.
second, you must have missed the discussion over this particular stamp, scroll back.
third, the tin shed has been answerd correctly above.


Barry,
Sorry the post was not clear.
The one I was only asking about was the 1½p with the neck flaw. The other two have been asked and answered previously. I was just showing my growing collection of oddities helped by this thread.

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1 1/2. red - looks like 18L52 possible cracked electro ~ $40
4d ...
1d. penavy flaw lll/23 ~ $20
1d. white line under value tab lll/42 ~ $20
1d. green , may just be overinking -
1 1/2. I cant find it.

prices are from the ACSC, if this is just a sample of your stamps , grap a copy.

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Hoping I could get some plating help with these ones please. Hopefully learn something along the way. Thank you in advance.

Regards Chris

White Spot in Crown. Does not appear to be thin
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Is This a Broken Neck Emu? WMK Inverted
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Extremely Strong Watermark
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White In Shading Under RVT
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Inking RHS and Around RVT
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Notch Top LHS
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Right side stamp possible 5/12 from the looks of that crown top

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Deep Rose p14 and Pale Rose p13.5x12.5.

N.W. Corner A white tache 1.50mm sloping down and inwards.
Left Frame Rough and irregular down the entire length.
Comp Marks Outside Left Frame - a pin 1.50mm with head at S.W. corner.
N.W. Corner - dot.

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Golden Scarlet to Browns.

N.W. Corner A white tache 1.50mm sloping down and inwards.
Left Frame Shallow scoop 15.00mm from Lower Frame and returning to normal after 2.50mm.
Comp Marks Outside Left Frame - a pin 1.50mm with head at S.W. corner.
N.W. Corner - dot.

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O.K., let's see if third times the charm.
One more for your help.
Have you see this particular neck/beard flaw before?


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If not, it goes in the "Close, but no cigar page" :D With the other two you looked at for me

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Pat yep stick it with the others I can not find anything with a line like that

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Any thoughts on this ½d guys ? Circular like flaws at Kings Temple. Would have thought of 4R60 but I showed that one a few pages back.

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They don't look to be in the same area on the temple

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Thanks for looking. I thought for sure that line on the neck would have been something notable.
Anyway, I will have quite the one page by the time I am done. :)

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Hi All,

Not sure if this is right, is this Dry Ink ? 1d Green Single Wmk.
I have it on a postcard as was able to get a good view of watermark.
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On a roll now :D

This one is Small Multi Wmk Perf 13.5 x 12.5 is it Dry Ink?

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Last one :D

1/2d Single Wmk, below "H" in Halfpenny to the left hand side their is a flaw, just wondering if it can be plated.

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Your ½d Orange is 8L5 Tracy check the wiki page at http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=8512&start=1000

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Any thoughts on this ½d guys ? Circular like flaws at Kings Temple. Would have thought of 4R60 but I showed that one a few pages back.

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They don't look to be in the same area on the temple


Yes that's what I meant, with having a 4R60 already I could compare it with this new one to see that this one wasn't 4R60, was just curious if anyone saw anything on these circular flaws that could plate it.

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Your ½d Orange is 8L5 Tracy check the wiki page at http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=8512&start=1000


cheers, manfaefife I went through wiki yesterday with regards to 2d single wmk flaws, forgot completely about the 1/2d orange.

can anyone tell me if I was right with the Dry Ink? much thanks.

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Does the Sub Cliche have a progressing of state in the lower left hand corner? Also the crown changes. Maybe I have the order back to front looking at the crowns.

Thank you in advance.

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1 1/2. red - looks like 18L52 possible cracked electro ~ $40
4d ...
1d. penavy flaw lll/23 ~ $20
1d. white line under value tab lll/42 ~ $20
1d. green , may just be overinking -
1 1/2. I cant find it.

prices are from the ACSC, if this is just a sample of your stamps , grap a copy.


Barry, thank you to both you and Gutters for the info. Have them all noted and in the album. I know as the interest grows I will realise I wont be able to live without an ACSC. And it is growing. Still deciding where I would like my collecting to be concentrated on. Working a 96hr week makes time difficult and I so appreciate your help with the KGV as they are a favourite.

Information clear and concise ty again.

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Chris, GUTTERS is 'the man' when it comes to plating the kgv's. Always very concise.

When I read your post, I thought you were a collector of sorts , getting ready up for a kgv sort out.
After seeing your photos of sub cliche #35, I wonder if you are an investor buying up or selling off.

Either way, they are nice stamps, every KGV collector wants them.

The Plate 2 is the big gun in reds, They are the ones I also stash away.

You have already shown some plate 2 beautys, the white flaw and the penavy, from pane 3
Your sub cliche units from pane lV , 35 are copper type replacements for the rusted cliche's of 34 and 35
Being made of copper these wore out much faster than the steel units, so to answer the question, yes.

Start with the full crown being the earliest.

quick edit : the penavy is thought to be rust also.

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Is this thin RA?? I can not find a reference for thin RA for 1D green. This one is CofA. My only reference is BW KGV 2007.
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No thin RA
It's RA joined retouched which started after the no watermark yours reference is on page 4/111 plate 4 ja

My deepest apologies Gutters i could have sworn I acknowledged your response.
I initially thought of the RA joined retouch but could not with confidence match it to the picture in BW and the "T" is also visibly thinner which I thought (why change the "T" for "RA" retouch) but I will label as such and bow to your wisdom which is good enough for me!

On the subject of not being able to match picture to stamp, what thoughts on this C of A for Emu Saddle? BW has only retouch for CofA but this does not match picture.
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Hi All,

I'm hoping for some help plating this one from the left column.

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-Flaw above Y of PENNY
-Notch in inner left frame at bottom (roughly left with serif of 1)

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This stamp matches up to one being sold as very yellow cyprus, I took a chance, bought it for a buck.

I noticed the 3rd shading line under the kings head is short, can it be plated?

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Is this thin RA?? I can not find a reference for thin RA for 1D green. This one is CofA. My only reference is BW KGV 2007.
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No thin RA
It's RA joined retouched which started after the no watermark yours reference is on page 4/111 plate 4 ja

My deepest apologies Gutters i could have sworn I acknowledged your response.
I initially thought of the RA joined retouch but could not with confidence match it to the picture in BW and the "T" is also visibly thinner which I thought (why change the "T" for "RA" retouch) but I will label as such and bow to your wisdom which is good enough for me!

On the subject of not being able to match picture to stamp, what thoughts on this C of A for Emu Saddle? BW has only retouch for CofA but this does not match picture.
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Gary
My B.S.A.P does mention the the fix done to 1/36 was by bumping the back of the plate. But in some printings there slight indications the flaw in the form of weak shading, and a very shallow indentation in the emu,s back.
So yours is possible

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I'm hoping for some help plating this one from the left column.

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-Flaw above Y of PENNY
-Notch in inner left frame at bottom (roughly left with serif of 1)

Thanks Staples.


5/43 break in the top frame 1.5mm from the left of the cross ( inconsistent ) and that compartment dot level with the top right frame is a match.

The white spot in the value tablet looks to me to be an indentation of the paper.

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This stamp matches up to one being sold as very yellow cyprus, I took a chance, bought it for a buck.

I noticed the 3rd shading line under the kings head is short, can it be plated?

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5L54 Barry

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I saw 5L54 but it has the right end of the 2nd shading line missing not the 3rd as shown in barry_e's copy. His looks to be an EFO.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:57:42 pm 
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Am I on the right track or my eyes playing tricks on me? This looks like a flaw on the G of postage to me. Could it be 6R2 in Brusden-White. The stamp is Small Multiple watermark P13.5 x 12.5. Thanks for any comments.
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GUTTERS wrote:

5/43 break in the top frame 1.5mm from the left of the cross ( inconsistent ) and that compartment dot level with the top right frame is a match.

The white spot in the value tablet looks to me to be an indentation of the paper.

Thanks Gutters. Much appreciated as always.


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Happy Easter everyone, I have 2 more I cant find.
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Split in the top of the crown.

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A Newness NSW CDS, missing an S, there is a crown break. The M bit looks ok, no scuffing apparent, the black pm is so close to covering a white patch.

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Happy Easter everyone, I have 2 more I cant find.
Any idea's ?
Split in the top of the crown.

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A Newness NSW CDS, missing an S, there is a crown break. The M bit looks ok, no scuffing apparent, the black pm is so close to covering a white patch.

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The first one seems to be V/21 - Top of crown dented (variable); and breaks in the end of the 6th/7th shading lines where they join the right frame of the RVT.


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clemo wrote:
barry_e wrote:
Happy Easter everyone, I have 2 more I cant find.
Any idea's ?
Split in the top of the crown.

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A Newness NSW CDS, missing an S, there is a crown break. The M bit looks ok, no scuffing apparent, the black pm is so close to covering a white patch.

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The first one seems to be V/21 - Top of crown dented (variable); and breaks in the end of the 6th/7th shading lines where they join the right frame of the RVT.


90% sure the 2nd is a tinshed

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Thanks Clemo, Thanks Gutters.

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Wondering if my novice eyes are playing tricks on me here:
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Is the left a thin G and the right a dot on Y?

The postmarks are unfortunately placed, but I'm pretty certain about the thin G. The ACSC book has me very confused about the dot on Y though. :oops: Thanks in advance!


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ChrisGray wrote:
Wondering if my novice eyes are playing tricks on me here:
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Is the left a thin G and the right a dot on Y?

The postmarks are unfortunately placed, but I'm pretty certain about the thin G. The ACSC book has me very confused about the dot on Y though. :oops: Thanks in advance!


Chris,

Yes, thin G and dot on Y. Nice!

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Now all you need to do is find the used pair from then next adjoining row ................. :mrgreen:


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Hi all,

Over the last couple of days, I've been sorting through about 200 1½d brown's and ended up with 8 copies of 8L43. Rather than scribbling some particulars on a little piece of paper and placing it in the stockbook next to the stamp like I normally do, I decided to have a go at putting together something a bit more thorough. Below are the results.

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Now I just need to find a copy or two of the 2nd state to fill those annoying gaps :D

In compiling the above I got thinking about the progression between the various states and was wondering about the earliest dates anyone else has for each of the states?

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Sorry Staples don't have any 8R43's but have to say I do the scribbling on a bit paper bit and stick it in a stockbook too, but now that I've seen your result on pages I'm very impressed. I can see I've a lot of work ahead of me but seeing your layout, gives me something to aim for, well done.

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