Well as to FACTS, this stuff was around the wholesale trade in MAC TRUCK LOAD type volumes 20 or so years back.
Try and re-write history as much as you wish (never worked for the Russians and East Germans, but go for it) but the FACT remains that vast amounts of this stuff was sold at waste paper type price levels.
I can see that quite the heated debate has begun as I knew it would.
FIRSTLY I would like to state that yes, if you were to take ALL of the LOW trains and cars issues (regular issues) and put them together then you would fill SEVERAL Mac Trucks with the material.
Let us do a bit of math. 56,000 pairs in panes equals 2240 panes. Now multiply that by the number of values in a series set...say set of 4 values. 8960 panes. Hmmmmm...THAT might fill part of a MAC TRUCK. And THAT is only one set!
There were over 900 different values issued for the LOW Trains and Cars series. Yes...I think you would need quite a few MAC TRUCKS to haul all that!
Re-writing history and revealing the TRUTH about history are two different things. Much history has been changed because secrets and rumors and lies have been discovered and proven later which in turn changes history as we know it. This IS the case with many of the LOW issues.
Let us ask the question....Do you have a ton of the material now? I think not. Statement was.
How do I know? As I bought a lot of it, and sold it also for a pittance .. at a slightly higher pittance than I bought at.
I'd sell things like 250 different MUH Train stamps - from all those uninhabited Tuvalu Islands and Caribbean places, face value $XXXX for a song. And sold them in sheet lots - i.e. 50 sets of MUH Trains .. all different - 250 in each set - Face value $XXXXXX - the LOT for $XX etc.
They sold pretty well.
You see yes at the time they were available for pennies because that is the way of stamps. Look at the present day Royal Wedding issues. They are EVERYWHERE. Same scenerio.
Now...the question is....can you buy them in the same quantities at the same price now? Very doubtful.
My point is....these are all words. No proof....no evidence. Where are your records proving you had "millions" of a single issue? Where are your pictures showing "millions" of a single issue? Where are the documents proving there are "millions" of ANY value of this series produced in the "millions"?
There is none...that is why. Only rumors and lies. Oh....someone went in and saw a bunch of boxes and looking at them "assumed" that there are "millions".
You see...you have to use logic and intelligence to figure out what the truth really is. Not words and rumors.
What would it cost to make a million copies of one value of the LOW trains? Please include paper, ink, design costs, employee costs, equipment, gum, packaging and shipping costs. Do you think that anyone with an intelligent business mind would produce millions on the hope that someone is going to buy them all for a profit? I think that the owners of the printing company would not. Consider they are millionaires and millionaires do not become millionaires through business by making STUPID decisions.
Now let's get back to today. Beddaustamps sells panes of the series at between 14-28.00 on ebay as stated by "the Sheriff". His father bought up much of the remainders at the time the issues were sold through the various agencies. SO? If you were to study it at all you would see that quite a few of the issues he no longer has or never did have. Proof of millions? I think not.
Just because you sold them for $2.00 means they are worthless? We should base our opinions on that fact? I would say perhaps if you had done the research that WE have you may have been a bit more conservative about your judgement in the selling of it!
I have bought much Egyptian philatelic items at pennies only to turn around and sell them for several dollars. Today the same items are selling for $50+! So since I sold them for a couple dollars should they be considered worthless and should be considered "wallpaper"? I think not. Wish I had them now is all I say.
So...we should base the produced amounts on your sales? Nope.
Again....show the proof.
You see...one thing that is backfiring on the instigators of the rumors and exaggerated statements is the trial evidence exhibitions themselves produced by the procecutors. We believe it was hoped to be destroyed and lost as the British Courts only retain this type of material for 7 years. It was not and thus WE have the proof that the same instigators of the rumors and statements had against the various companies which proved that they were NOT GUILTY of ALL charges. Thus we have whole exhibits showing the process of ordering, printing AND shipping of numerous issues for many countries INCLUDING LOW issues.
Do YOU have this? Rewriting history? It is already written. It was just never shown.
In closing I would like to just state that the story of the LOW issues and as some call it "a debacle" is long and very complex as the issues are. We welcome debate but again stress that without evidence words really mean not a lot. My site is dedicated toward unravelling the mysteries of the Format International Security Printers Ltd. and what REALLY happened. I am the lead researcher on the subject as apparently....nobody has ever made the effort to figure it out.
Also in closing I would like to present to you another FACT as to WHY you think "millions" were produced of each value. Another sort of mathematical equation and a picture.
Picture a box 1.6'x1.6'x1' weighing 22k (48.5 pounds). In it are 4 packets of progressive color proof panes of LOW trains. Each packet contains 117-119 panes of each of the 7 stages of printing. ONLY 4 values will fit in the box(one being placed sideways). Can you picture it?
Now here is a picture of some of the St. Lucia/Tuvalu side of the Police Evidence Stock seized by the British Metropolitan Police for the trials. There are only a few REGULAR perforated panes and uncut press sheets in the whole thing. They are all progressives, specimen overprinted and imperforates of which all are of limited quantities ie; 1,000 to 5,000 sets.
Then tell me that if you saw this on a GRAND scale including the St. Vincent/Nevis side in crates and only looked at a few on top that you too would think MILLIONS and MASSIVE and thus the rumors begin.......