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Port MacDonnell

Patg,,
I think what you might have here is : Port Macdonnell, South Australia
Regards Jim

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Now it makes sense.
Thanks for the help,
pat

Port MacDonnell is a small port about 477 kilometres (296 mi) southeast of Adelaide and 28 kilometres (17 mi) south of Mount Gambier, in the Limestone Coast region of south-eastern South Australia. Port MacDonnell is the southernmost town in South Australia. At the 2006 census, the town had a population of 623

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Pt Mac

C1 26mm
19-7-1909 to 1959 C
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Neville

Collector of Southern Fleurieu Peninsula postmarks and postcards etc.

On this one the letters that can be seen are pretty clear, but faint "ASKETRA". Finally saw the F was really an E under high mag. At first I didn't notice it was also a squared circle cancel.
I found that when looking at cancels on red stamps, that using a red camera filter helps seeing the black cancel much easier.
All help appreciated.
pat

*Almost hit send; then had one more vision: Does "Basket Range" work? PPA has it but no picture.

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Basket Range PO 1/4/1892; CMA 30/7/1993, South Australia.

That's the only one I found too Pat so I would go with it

Basket Range

SC 25mm 1892 to 12-11-1927 R

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Neville

Collector of Southern Fleurieu Peninsula postmarks and postcards etc.

Hi All,

This one has me stumped. There are plenty of letters but I can't come up with anything.



Thanks Staples

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Nigel

Would it be Victoria Pannoobamawm? An interesting town name, not much information on Google.

Thank's Micky, I think you're spot on. Much appreciated.

From PPA website - Pannoobamawm PO 2/5/1876; renamed Lockington PO 1/5/1921.

Pannoo Bamawm may yield more results in a web search.

There is a Pannoo Bamawm cemetery.

Bamawm still exists (near Lockington).

There is a Pannoo Road (also near Lockington).

Pannoo and Bamawm may have been two adjacent settlements.

Currently, there is a Lockington Bamawm football team.

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From http://home.vicnet.net.au/~ldlhc/lockington.html

The naming of Lockington

"From the advent of irrigation in 1911, the need for a township was felt, but the actual site was not decided upon until 1915, when the Cohuna-Elmore railway line was opened. The station was first known as Bamawm, and the post office still used the old name of Pannoobamawm, which was rather confusing, until the Progress Association was requested by the railway authorities to submit a list of names from which a choice would be made.
A person much in the news at that time was illustrious Fr. Lockington, S.J., noted author, lecturer and preacher, and a suggestion was made that his name be included in the list. This found favour with the Railway Commission, there being no other station in Victoria of that name, and so it was adopted for the station and the post office. The names were gazetted in May,1921."

(From Then the Water Wheel Turned: a history of Lockington and District 1867-1967, by Fae Stevens and Elizabeth O’Brien.)

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Thank you all very much for the information regarding Pannoobamawm.

I did a bit of trawling around the internet myself and came up with and advertisement in the Argus on 28 Feb 1914 for the Postmaster General's tender for the conveyance of mails (Service 555) to and from Pannoobamawn and Pine Grove East, six times per week. (To connect with Rochester and Pannobamawm service).

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/7249211

Cheers Staples

I'm relatively new here on Stampboards, so go easy on me. I've been bitten by the KGV bug since I began sorting through a couple thousand on-piece 1d reds, and a few days ago I won a Hagner sheet of various KGVs at a local auction. I bought it as it looked like somebody went to a lot of trouble to put them together, being that some are MUH O.S. and so on.

The one thing that the used ones have in common are non-standard cancels. I couldn't find a forum thread about them in the same vein as this, so I thought I'd post an example here:

I have more but I'll just post this as not to flood the thread. Are these of any interest to collectors?

As an aside, a great deal (I'd say around 500-600) of the box of 1d reds I'm sorting are complete postmarks, and I'll be more than happy to make available the images of them for reference in the future.

Chris, the meter-matter cancels - your example - do have appeal to a number of collectors....some of the slogans (with dates) are very collectable. the problem is that they (preferably) should show the entire slogan.

Your on-piece 1d KGV reds will have many people here drooling for the postmarks. (Including me ) These babies are probably the best source of scarce postmark material because of their era of use.

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I was thinking the same thing, most of these meter-matter cancels (thanks for the correct term) seem to be 2-3 stamps long, so it seems a shame that whomever owned these soaked them off the paper.

If anybody is interested in the others let me know and I'll post photos, I don't want to flood the thread with them if nobody wants to see them.



Cool, I'll be sure to post updates. The PPA has been a massive help thus far, and there's only 3 so far that aren't on it, which I'm not sure is a good or bad thing. To find 2 Wallsend-Plattsburg so far is neat, considering it was renamed the year after.

Not to get anybodies hopes up; most are from NSW only, and almost all of the cancel dates are between July and August 1915, which makes me wonder of the rest of the cache from the original collector, if it turns out I have 2000+ stamps from just two months of the same year!

As these were saved from a tip-face in the 60s, I can't exactly ask the original collector. I do have a feeling that my Dad (the rescuer in the 60s, already a picker by then it seems) might stumble upon the rest of them in his shed once I start to sort them, but I've got more than enough to deal with at the moment to worry about.

Chris here's what I believe is a full slogan cancel, nicely applied on a pair of 1d Greens. As you can see if the pair were seperated there wouldn't be much sense in the slogan.

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Chris

Yes - at least post the names of the postmarks that you got in your big lot

Peter

Hi all,

I love seeing nice postmarks on the KGV Issues, I have no idea how many different locations they were used at but would love to have a list of post offices open during the period.

Is it worth starting another thread to record the different post offices recorded on these issues? I by no means have many but I have some very nice ones. Perhaps a thread for the cancels of each state?

Lundy

I like that idea Lundy. I will post some up even though they are common as can be.

Micky

The PPA (the link for it is somewhere in this thread) has an almost complete collection of post office openings/renamings/closings, although without photos and there is no information for when the postmarks actually changed. It should prove a solid start in building a catalogue of cancels for the KGVs.

I'd be more than happy to help kick off the effort with some scans of my lot as I progress through them. It'd worth starting a wiki thread for it, so this one doesn't get hijacked.

I'll add that to the to-do, at the moment I'm spotting flaws in my "easy to read" postmark pile.

So your all happy to work through about 8-9,000 post offices?
They ran through the building, mining, expansion national boom, a WWI and 25ish years.

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That few Greg,

I must be over 1% complete now!

I am happy just to see nice cancels on KGV issues and I dont think there is a thread for that yet, so, I will start one later in the share with others forum.

I hope others will add their scans to it.

Lundy

Ahoj lundy!

Allan announced recently that he was going to compile an Australian postmark database on the same lines as his admirable GB one.

I don't think it has got very far yet so I am sure he would welcome any contributions.

The link to the joint database is:-

http://philatelicweb.com/pmks/index.php

Cheers,

Honza

Okay "Sports Fans" for the Sherlock Holmes in all of us, 5 more puzzles I need help with





As you can see #s 2 & 3 appear to be the same, so once they're solved you can trade for either. I also have 3 Hagners of doubles I'd like to trade with anybody interested, Have fun
Regards Jim:D

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Hi Jim,
first one is Geelong, Victoria....I'm useless with any other state.....fourth one is Warracknabeal, Victoria; not too sure about the fifth; and the last one is Darwin N.T. (Northern Territory) South Australia.

I'll be interested to know what others make of the fifth stamp

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Hi Jim,

Second and third could be West D'port abbreviated from West Devonport??

Lundy

GINGIN M.R. / WA MR is Midland Railway.

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Donald.
Aus KGV Head Addict !

I meant to put in my last answer that I got that answer from Torsten Weller's 2009 auction.

Lot 1116 A2- GINGIN M.R. / W.A. 1912 LDL cds (type C27, recorded 1911-57 only) on 1d pink swan pair [M.R. refers to Midland Railway]

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Donald.
Aus KGV Head Addict !

For your information Midland Railway was a privately owned railway that ran from Midland Junction, an eastern suburb of Perth, to Geraldton about 350 kms north. I remember they used to shunt their trains across the main intersection in Midland holding up all the traffic when I was a kid. The line was bought by the government around 1960.

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As my granddaughter says this thread and you guys (mcgooley et al) are awesome. It is nothing short of amazing how truly helpful this site is. Thank you all very much
Regards Jim

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Hi, I might be in the wrong place, I don't want to start a new thread on one little item. Can someone help with the type of GPO on this Queensland stamp? I have checked the Obliterators cancels on the Queensland postal markings and it doesn't look like any listed. I suppose I should consider it's only a partial stamp but no harm in asking, I can only get bitten so many times




Micky

Thanks jeremy29 for clearing the GPO that wasn't a GPO , silly me. have to find something harder now.

Micky

I haven't come across a straight line cancellation before, so can I assume this is a machine cancellation from Charters Towers Queensland ? What date was this cancellation in use from ?

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Donald.
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This one's probably straightforward but for the life of me I can't see it !
Seems to be "BANE R.T.S.O." which I assume is Brisbane, but what do the initials stand for SO maybe Sorting office ?

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Donald.
Aus KGV Head Addict !

Hi Donald.

Brisbane seems logical. Not sure it is RTSO - I think the "O" is actually the "D" at the end of Queensland. There seems to be a large dot after the S which in early Queensland postmarks was used to separate teh office name from the state name. RTS often stands for Return to Sender but this seems a little unusual for a handstamp.

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Peter

Straight out of left field...R.T.S. might have something to do with ? Telegram Service? I'm not convinced that 'R' may not be a 'P' gone wrong

Am I correct in seeing the date as ?Y 24, 16

I agree with Peter that the 'O' is most likely the tail-end of Queensland. Not my area of study, perhaps someone with more expertise could elaborate on the Brisbane offices?

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Can anyone help with this cancel, the PPA site has a Bramble Heights but this cancel seems to have
something after Bramble Heights- maybe North?

Thanks
Paul

Rackrunner wrote:

Can anyone help with this cancel, the PPA site has a Bramble Heights but this cancel seems to have
something after Bramble Heights- maybe North?

Thanks
Paul

Back in December 2011 Premier Auctions had an item which was Bramble Heights N.E.

Is that it and if so would anyone know what the N.E. means?

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Looks to me as if theres 3 letters after Bramble Heights and you have QLD AUST along bottom of postmark. Looks like N.T.G. or similar maybe NTH.

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Donald.
Aus KGV Head Addict !

Could it be "N Rd" for North Road?

The Post Office was later renamed Brighton - North Road.

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I could go along with that muruk, I could see the small d. but for life of me I couldn't understand why there'd be a small d. in the postmark. Googling brought up Brighton-North Road but still didn't twig.

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Donald.
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I don't think Bramble Heights would have been big enough to have postal districts like NE = Northeast.

I haven't been able to find a confirming image on the web. Was there one in PPA catalogue 113 for comparison?

And if they sold one, why is it not now in their reference list?

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muruk wrote:

KevinHedley wrote:

Back in December 2011 Premier Auctions had an item which was Bramble Heights N.E.

I don't think Bramble Heights would have been big enough to have postal districts like NE = Northeast.

I haven't been able to find a confirming image on the web. Was there one in PPA catalogue 113 for comparison?

And if they sold one, why is it not now in their reference list?

This what I found:

1578 * A- B2 Bramble Heights: ‘BRAMBLE HEIGHTS N.E.8/ 415P19NO59/
QLD-AUST’ (A2 backstamp) on 5d blue QEII & 2/- Flower on
opened-out cover to HBA with blue registration label. [Rated R
by Smithies] PO 24/5/ 1954; renamed Brighton-North Road PO 3/5/
1977. $10

There are no images. The item was under the heading Queensland ; Date Stamps

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Yes, that's what I found, but I was looking for an image to compare.

Reading more closely, it's NE8 (the listing, not the image) ... if it follows patterns used elsewhere, and it is indeed NE8, it could be a postal district of Brisbane ... NE = Northeast, 8 = long way out. Geographically it fits.

I don't have knowledge of Brisbane's postal layout of that period. I'm just proposing an option for consideration.

I think we still need a clear strike for comparison.

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Collecting Greater New Guinea & Macropods (Kangaroos & Wallabies).

Looks like Paul has a tricky one for the thread, great to see .


Michael

Thanks to all who are helping out with this tricky one,
here is an image of the cover that the cancel is on, nothing on the back.

Thanks,again...
Paul

Hello from Canada,
I have searched the sites for this sort of cancel and not found it; I guess I searched in the wrong places. is it a common cancel?
Michael