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I don´t think that KM put the prices realistically. In 1983, when the KM was published it was thought that revenues will be collected by a lot of collectors. So, KM puts CV quite high expecting huge selling quantities of items. I was told that in this time large packets with such material quitted India nearly every week, mostly aiming at Great Britain and USA.

This is the reason why quite a lot of material is located outside India.
The expected boom in collecting this area but did not happen and supply-demand policy was applied. By the way, Indian Rupee was devalued several times to USD (I think that it was about 5 times stronger than it is now).

However, in the update, we will put prices to be much more realistic.

As I understand it, and I hope Bob Stanley will correct me, a handstamp version of a ½ Anna was prepared, but wasn't released before the old Faridkot State Post Office was replaced by the 1885 Convention. These handstamped types seem to be uncommon. Later, the Faridkot authorities produced nicely printed imitations of the 1 Folus, 1 Paisa and ½ Anna, purely for sale to collectors. These are for the most part quite common. Then, the imitations were also forged.

So: the blue handstamped versions of the ½ Anna might have some tenuous claim to be genuine, unissued stamps, but all the others are pure reprints or imitations. No ½ Anna of any sort ever had postal validity, as far as I know.

The situation with Faridkot is quite clear-cut. Pre-1 January 1887, only the blue handstamped 1 Folus and 1 Paisa, in Gibbons' Types N1 and N2; post-1 January 1887, only the Indian overprints, and then only Indian stamps. This is distinct from other States which issued reprints. I understand that some of the reprints of the first types of Hyderabad and the second types of Soruth have been seen apparently genuinely used. I have this cover with a Bhopal ½ Anna



from the spate of imitations of earlier types that were made for collectors after the Bhopal State Post Office was closed to the public in 1908. (Gibbons used to list and price these; it's the old SG 240a.) The cover is postmarked 1328 AH, equivalent to 1910 CE, and looks genuine, so it may be possible to add Bhopal to the list, along with Hyderabad and Soruth, of States with reprints/imitations of doubtful status.

However, this doesn't apply to Faridkot.

I see that the Faridkot lot closed on 5900 Rupees, with a claimed 27 bids, all anonymous. Make of that what you will

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Those Faridkot labels and reprints reached a remarkable sum on 27 bids.

Even more remarkable was the vendor's claim that they were unreported India stamps,very rare and difficult to get! None of which is the truth.

I suppose that you could say that they are unreported but only because they aren't valid India stamps at all. They certainly aren't rare or hard to get.

The 1/2 anna is thought to have been produced in 1877 but never put into use either because of the damage of a large crack in the upper left corner or because 1/2 anna was the same rate as the Imperial post office and couldn't compete. These were produced one at a time in blue, green, black and red for sale to collectors.

The first scan includes one lithographed reprint as the right hand stamp in the bottom row.

The third scan shows another lithographed reprint, second from the right in the bottom row.

The fourth scan is a page of reprints of the 1 paisa stamp ( 1/4 anna ).

Not one of the stamps in this lot were ever valid for postage.

A huge collection of Faridkot from the same seller had ended on March 2, 2012 with 33 bids at Rs 14,700. Similar modus. Mostly private bids. A friend of mine who was bidding on that lot had also conveyed his suspicions at that time. I did not agree with him because I felt the stamps were very good and were actually worth that much.

Here are the scans from that lot from this same seller. Kindly judge for yourself.



More scans in the next post.

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The remainder of the lot that closed at Rs 14,700 (USD 300 approx) in a similar fashion from the same seller.



Mouth Watering Stuff...is it not !!!


But Yes, other people have found this "private bidding" business from this seller suspicious too.


Thanks and regards.

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I'm glad to hear the pricing in the new catalogue will be realistic. I'm sure that will help create interest in these stamps - and that is very well-deserved. You know far better than I just how rare so many of these stamps are. When some of them were issued by tiny entities with populations of a few thousand, it's extraordinary that anything has survived at all.

Of course, the resale prices for the original K&M catalogues do show how much interest there now is in the revenues

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Birder, that looks like a nice range of those unissued Faridkot, but hundreds of US dollars for them I might even have been tempted myself - at one tenth of the price. As Bob has said, nothing to get excited about here.

The Private Listing from a seller with a 98.9% Feedback score, and a stack of Neutrals and Negatives over the last month doesn't inspire confidence either. Why the Private Listings? I'm still scratching my head over some of the non-Private listing realisations for Indian States recently, but I just don't believe these Faridkot prices.

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First five Soruth's in this lot look quite genuine.Don't they?

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No!

First three are forgeries and the next two reprints.

Hi Tony,
I ran across your very informative articles on the India States by a new post. I am very impressed with all the information packed here. Thanks for all the hard work invested here. I collect India and area, and info is hard to find here in the states. Thanks!
JimMac in Virginia USA

JimMac, delighted to have you along for the ride (and not just because you're another Mac ). I started this thread simply to demonstrate to my fellow Aussies that there was life beyond their simple pleasures - and it's grown beyond anything I dreamt of, way back then.

However, with your interest in India and the States, you simply must join the India Study Circle (http://www.indiastudycircle.org/index.html) if you haven't already done so. It's such a vast repository of information on the area, there's no comparison

In the meantime, do please show us some of your collection. One of the - innumerable - delights of the Indian States is that there's always something new to see and learn. I'm sure you can contribute!

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The first three are clearly forgeries. There is something strange about the next two also...they don't appear right...

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Thanks for the link to the India Study Circle, it looks very interesting. I will post a few scans of my collection, when I get the photo thing right. It is more difficult than uploading from my own FTP site. I don't particularly like photobucket.
But Thanks Tony!
JimMac

The next two are imitations. They're mentioned at the end of the footnotes after SG 15. Quite common, and basically worthless, unless you can find one indisputably used on commercial mail

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Do persevere with Photobucket, JimMac. There are a couple of reasons. It makes it much easier to follow threads if you can see the images directly and in place, without having to click through to another site. And of course, some of us are a bit chary of clicking on links that might take us to places we'd rather not go

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JimMac:

Use this link to get the hang of using Photobucket: http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=284

You can test uploading and getting this the way you like, BEFORE going live for the first couple.

As Tony says, there are several reasons we prefer Photobucket for images, security being one and also the fact that the Photobucket settings can be adjusted to allow consistent sized photos to be added to threads. Stampboards software will work with specific image sizes. Read the introduction notes to the "Post Images" thread and set your photobucket image size to what is recommended and you'll be away to the races.

John A

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eBay seller gerland6 from the Netherlands appears to be unusually ethically challenged. He has offered modern copies of Indian States in the past, and had them pointed out to him - to no effect. Now he's at it again. Some of his current offerings are labelled 'REPRINT ?!?!', which is nonsense, of course, because they aren't reprints, they're just silly copies. However, this Bhor lot is offered without even the 'REPRINT ?!?!'



http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150807223990

and it's already attracted a bid of $US0.50 - for a forgery, and a forgery of a forgery. To refresh the memory, this is what the first Bhor stamp actually looks like:



For a good laugh, have a look at these Jasdan 'REPRINT ?!?!'s:



http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150807238987

The same Bunny has also bid $US0.50 on this lavatory paper as well. Or could it be ... ?

This is what Jasdan stamps really do look like:



and of course, Jasdan stamps never were issued imperf

I've pointed out to gerland6 that he's offering fakes again. We'll see what happens this time.

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I have a 2008 SG Catalogue. Rajasthan SG 20 is supposed to have an overprint in black. Few days back i received a Blue/Black overprint on Rajasthan SG 20.

Welcome to this thread, psphani!

This colour is quite OK. 'B' when describing the colours of overprints in Gibbons means 'blue'.

My only concern would be the cancellation on the used stamp. The Bandikui CDS has been seen used improperly, to cancel Jasdan stamps:



so I automatically worry about later Jaipur and Rajasthan stamps, where used are worth more than mint.

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Haha. Ok "B" stands for Blue. Get it. So what's the concern? Is the cancellation not genuine?

I don't know about the cancellation. My point is that any late Jaipur CDS where the town name isn't visible, and the shape of the Sun in the top segment is similar to that on a Bandikui CDS, could be suspect. A stamp which is worth less used than mint is probably OK, but if the reverse is true, I think caution is indicated

It's very sad, but cancellations of several Indian States are suspect in the same way. I've seen apparently genuine Barwani cancellations on stamps that could never have received them, for instance.

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I've just had a quick look over some of the realisations from the latest Murray Payne auction. As usual, some that raised the eyebrows

Lot 282: Barwani, the 1 Anna Devi Singh imperf between pair, with BPA Certificate, SG 34aA - cat. £1700, Estimated at £2200, sold for £2500 (and not to me. I have one already, thank heavens! But 40% over catalogue - again - for Barwani. Barwani rules OK)

Lot 441: Charkhari SG 30 - the Arms type on cover, gum soaked perf tips and the cover tatty, cat. £170 off cover. Estimated at £350, sold for £475 (guilty, this time)

Lot 471: Cochin, the notorious 1 Anna 3 Pies surcharge on 1 Anna, SG 92c, used, with BPA Certificate, cat. £5500, Estimated £3500, sold for £5200

Lot 472: Cochin, the Fifth Raja 4 Pies unused, well centred, SG 103, cat. £3250; Estimated £2000, sold for £2600 (What? Only 80% of catalogue? Has Cochin gone off the boil?)

Neither of the Cochin went to me. I'd exhausted my budget by the end of Charkhari

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Feeling like a child in a cradle
what have I let myself led into

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Well, those were some of the big scary ones But there were some smaller scary ones as well. As soon as I've digested all the prices realised, and recovered from the shock of winning far more than I anticipated, I'll post a few more.

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Just heard on the grapevine that Geoffrey Flack is undergoing extensive chemotherapy at the moment. I didn't want to pry and find out what the overall prognosis is, but he's battling away. My thoughts go out to him and his family.

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Thanks for passing that on, Domburd. This is very sad news: I can only hope for a speedy recovery, too. There are too few gentlemen like him in the trade.

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My sympathy goes out to him. I completed treatment for mouth cancer early this year. Chemo is not fun, but the radiation I received was worse. Geoffrey is in my thoughts and prayers.
JimMac in USA

Hope he recovers soon. I see a lot of stuff from his store being sold on ebay.

I've now pencilled in the prices realised for the Uglies section of the Murray Payne auction on the 25 April. Some quite perplexing results: some items and sections fired, others fell flat. I'll go through, and pick out a few highlights (that struck me, anyway )

Barwani Lot 281: SG 34A - a sheet of 4 on cover used in 1934, one stamp with an ink mark: Est. £120, sold (to me) for £170. Very cheap: this is the first sheet of this stamp I've seen on cover.
Lot 282: SG 34Aa - The close setting 1 Anna imperf between pair, mint. Cat. £1700, Est. £2200, Sold for £2500 (not to me. I already have one, thank goodness )
The Barwani booklets largely failed to sell. Not really surprising. They're nasty, bulky little things, and often have rusty staples.

Bhopal There was a fine spread of errors of the Service types. Many of these failed to sell, with the used errors seeming to be particularly hard to shift. I suppose I can understand the investors avoiding used, but as a collector, I really like to see, say, imperf between pairs properly used. A couple of highlights:
Lot 352: A block of 9 of the 1944 3 Pies blue, double print (SG O350c), only one hinged, gum cracking and with one stamp with an age spot; Cat. £585, Est. £500, sold for £600
Lots 365 and 367: SG O357 mint and used respectively; Cat. £1500 each, Est. £1300 and £1400 each, sold for £1600 each

Bijawar I make no secret of the fact that I don't think much of Bjiawar, but ... nine out of 14 lots sold, and for the most part close to or better than catalogue prices. For example:
Lot 381 The 1 Rupee SG 15, fine used (could it be any other way? Show me a genuinely postally used copy, and I'll start believing in Father Christmas ); Cat. £190, Est. £130, sold for £200

Bundi I was quite surprised by how poorly the Sacred Cows went. Only around half seem to have sold. The buyers seemed to be very selective: it wasn't only the cheaper lots or the more expensive ones that sold. The sales were across the range, though there weren't any of the great rarities included in the sale.
Lot 412 The 2½ Annas, inscription Type A, Small English overprint in red, SG O2aB, with ISES and BPA Certificates; Cat. £325, Est. £250, sold for £375
And work this one out:
Lot 437 The Arms set overprinted SERVICE, described as 'mint, very lightly hinged' SG O53-9; Cat. £600, Est. £450, sold for £800
Lot 438 The same set mint, described as 'the 3p with hinge remainder and the 6p without gum, as issued' sold for £425

Cochin was was quite short - only ten lots (there were more than three times as many for Barwani), but some quality stuff, which I've already mentioned. A couple of others, though:
Lot 466 A basic mint selection of 77, minus the really good stamps, from 1939 to 1949. Said to have 'a few condition problems but generally fine'; Cat. £1191, Est. £400 and sold for £400
Lot 475 SG O66 mint with 'slightly mottled gum' (which seems to be a common problem from that time); Cat. £375, Est. £200, sold for £500

Dungarpur Six of seven lots sold. As usual with Dungarpur, all were faulty in one way or another. If anyone had wanted a Dungarpur stamp to have a representation from the State, then this was the cheapest:
Lot 480 The 1939 1 Anna fine used, small ink run at left; Cat. £85, Est. £70, sold for £110

Hyderabad was another flop. Only four out of eleven lots sold.

Idar also fared poorly, with about half the lots sold. A couple of the booklets sold for at least full catalogue prices, which was surprising.

Indore Again, only six lots, of which three sold.
Lot 512 The 1927-37 set, SG 16-32 fine mint; Cat. £356, Est. £220, sold for £325
Lot 517 The 1943 2 Rupee fine and genuinely used (SG 42); Cat. £200, Est. £150, sold for £200

Jaipur Only two lots: a complete basic mint collection from 1938 to 1948; STC £693, sold for £375, and the 1932 set mint (SG 52-57), Cat. £140 sold for £95

Jasdan was the big flop. Only one of five lots sold. The big scary sheet/block of 4 of SG 1, Cat. at £7200 and Est. at £6000 didn't sell. Only an SG 3 on cover 'adhesive with central hole and diagonal crease', and with a BPA Cert., sold for £475.

Kishangarh did better, surprisingly, with four out of seven lots selling.

Orchha Three out of four sold. Two covers with SG 34 and 40 sold for £275 and £220 respectively, and the 1942 10 Rupee mint went for £750 against a Cat. of £800

Rajasthan This was a surprise: only three out of 15 lots failed. The highlight was
Lot 551 Violet handstamp on the 1943-7 Kishangarh 1 Anna carmine-red in a strip of three on piece, with a BPA Cert. Cat. £1125, Est. £950 and sold for £1150

Soruth was patchy. The big ticket items sold:
Lot 568 A mint pair of the 1 Anna on 4 Anna surcharge, one with the ANNE error (SG O16, a); light overall toning, and with a 1981 RPS Cert. Cat. £4475, Est. and sold for £3800
but many of the cheaper (in Soruth terms) didn't. Another interesting one was
Lot 561 1 Anna on ½ Anna surcharge (SG 58) used on piece with the red manuscript 'Service' overprint, with an Una CDS, and with a BPA Cert. (I wouldn't touch this item without that). Cat. £130, Est. and sold for £200. If I'd had any bidding money left by this stage, I would have loved to get this one

A very uneven sale, and I'm not quite sure why. Was it because the online catalogue was only available fairly late, and through an auction network, not directly from the Murray Payne site? Or was a certain dealer not buying, or being more selective? I know I bid fairly extravagantly, expecting to miss plenty of items. In the end, I missed on only one - and it was the cheapest lot I bid on

Anyway, even with all the failures to sell, it looks as if we can expect some pretty strong price increases in the 2013 and 2014 Gibbons.

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Have to take a printout of this to read at leisure . By the way which are the states that disappointed you in terms of bidding nos. and prices?

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I'm not so sure about disappointments, but surprises ... Well, I was surprised there wasn't more interest in Bhopal, the Sacred Cows and particularly Jasdan.

I'm content with my own very sparse collection of the Sacred Cows. They're wonderful stamps, and I'd dearly love to have pockets deep enough to do them really well, but one must be realistic

I would have liked to be able to bid on a lot more of the Bhopal. In the end, I picked up two lots, but they inflicted quite enough pain If money had been no object, I could easily have found another dozen or more that I would have liked to add.

And Jasdan: I dropped it off my serious list ages ago. Like Dungarpur, it's a rich man's hobby, and I'm only comfortably off. (Or I was, until this auction. I'm now eating the cat's food, and she's having to find her own )

Bijawar and Rajasthan surprised me on the up-side. It's just not possible to take Bijawar seriously. It never was a proper postal service, in the way that the service in its neighbour Charkhari certainly was. The stamps are nice enough, I suppose, but I still regard Bijawar as the Khor Fakkan of the Uglies.

Rajasthan was also a surprise, because those handstamped overprints are so easy to forge that it's been a backwater for a long time. I see that the BPA is now issuing certificates for them, which is a great advance. It makes me willing to consider Rajasthan, but expensive items only with a certificate, thanks!

And truth to tell, I suppose I was a little pleasantly surprised by the relative strength of Barwani. Most of the offerings were from the late George V/George VI era, which (to my mind) was a bit dull in Barwani, after the baroque splendours of the time when the Ranjit Printing Press was doing the printing.

I don't know how much support there was from the dealers. (I do know that Dr Kinns from Gibbons looked over the lots.) But I can't see how they could have bought much. Time and again, when items did sell, they went for from close to full catalogue value to well over it. How could a dealer expect to make a profit, assuming a 50% markup, at those rates?

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Tony what do make of this block
SG1 or SG3 ?

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Not SG 1, I'm afraid: it's a very distinctive deep green. Have you checked the gauge of the perforations? My best guess would be SG 4.

Here is an SG 1 sheet from the Murray Payne auction



an SG 2 sheet



and an SG 3 sheet



All went unsold

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IT'S INSANE. 20% above CAT. OR AM I MISSING SOMETHING?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/270967925198?ss ... 1438.l2649

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Well, I won it, so ipso facto it isn't insane This is the offending lot:



I'll have more to say about the lot once I receive it. I'd rather not have had to pay $333 for it just at the moment, but I think it might turn out to be quite interesting.

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WELLLLL! I knew it was you but didn't mention lest I should be termed discourteous

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I know Uglies is a term for Indian states, so do you count Bahawalpur in it as well? If so is there a market for Bahawalpur Stamps?

A good question.

Bahawalpur is usually counted among the Uglies, even though its stamps are undoubtedly amongst the most attractive of the George VI era - from anywhere. It first issued stamps in the pre-Independence period, so for a short time, Gibbons would have listed it among the Indian States in the normal way - even if it has been relegated to the Pakistan listings these days. (Las Bela used to follow Pakistan as well, but at some point, Gibbons shifted it to the main Indian States lists.)

The Amir of Bahawalpur was a serious collector (I treasure a sheet of Jind SG J8 which was formerly in his collection), which is why Bahawalpur stamps are so well designed and executed. It also may help explain why there's a bit of an odour around some of them. Why, for example, did Bahawalpur issue UPU commemoratives, when Bahawalpur couldn't by definition be a member?

There was a big sale of Bahawalpur, here in Melbourne of all improbable places, a few years ago. Specialist pieces - errors, postal history etc - fetched very good prices. In the current climate, those items would probably do even better. However, the basic mint stamps are for the most part pretty hard to shift. Some have thematic appeal, which supports them to an extent. However, sets like the 1948 high value Service stamps (SG O20-O27) are hard to give away. The 1947 overprints on India are in a different category altogether: not easy to find, and sought after by collectors. I'd love to own a set myself, but ...

So, if you ignore the disputed 1933 stamp (not listed by Gibbons) and the 1947 overprints on India, most of Bahawalpur is pretty achievable for a fairly modest outlay. And you have the bonus of some superbly designed and printed stamps, which IMHO leave the contemporary Pakistani stamps for dead.

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That's quite OK. If anyone was curious, it would be pretty easy to work out what my 'secret' eBay code was

I just performed a little exercise on the Murray Payne Barwani section. I checked the prices realised against the catalogue values for the Barwani stamp lots that sold, excluding covers and booklets, but disregarding the odd condition problem with the stamps. Total 2012 catalogue value of these lots was £4336 and the prices realised totalled £4775: around a 10% premium on catalogue.

I don't think I have the time or energy to do the same for any other States, but it wouldn't surprise if they showed the same sort of trend.

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I was just digging through the pile of rubbish that accumulates below my monitor, and rediscovered this Rajasthan overprint on a Kishangarh ½ Anna postal stationery cover cut-out, which has been used for postage



I have no idea whether this was legal, but it seems to have been accepted. Further testimony to what must have been the enormous size of the Perkins, Bacon printing of postal stationery for Kishangarh around 1904 The postcards were still available in 1948 to be overprinted:



Even the stamps were readily available:



This stamp overprinted in 1948 is catalogued at half the value of the unoverprinted version of 1904

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You Sir by any chance want to adopt a son to look after you (besides the cat) in old age

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I think Murray Payne auction had a ruboff on this one. Went for just $183.71 at ebay today.

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The cat has already planned exactly what she's going to do with my collection when she's queen of the cat retirement home

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I think this is a part sheet of SG 6. SG 5



and 6 were the only ones printed in sheets of eight. If I'm right, the block catalogues at £180, so quite a healthy price.

There weren't any SG 6s in the Murray Payne auction, though.

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This single SG4 cataloging at 20 GBP sold for $43 sometime back on ebay. That too MLH. In that comparison a block of 6 of SG6 (catalog 26 GBP each) NH seems very cheap to me at $184 (approx. $31 a piece). Or am I missing something

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That was one of mine, too, but it was an accident. I entered and confirmed the wrong amount. Rather than have a black mark against my name for withdrawing my bid, I let it ride.

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Oh! I am sorry for that

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Alasss! I hope she understands the fine points of Barwani and Holy Cows

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I have 2 copies of SG 6 which i purchased for 30-35$. I figured 30$ is the ideal price for this and so entered 180$.