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You may consider it so. It is a postal mark, similar to US barcodes which are at the foot of envelopes and Canadian ones which are generally on the back. I wouldn't regard those as cancellations as they are not designed to cancel the stamps, as neither are the British ones. If they fall on the stamps that is purely coincidental.

Ok, let's play it safe and call it a postal mark :)

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No they are the routing bar-code which identifies the address.

Isn't it still considered as a cancellation? :?

You may consider it so. It is a postal mark, similar to US barcodes which are at the foot of envelopes and Canadian ones which are generally on the back. I wouldn't regard those as cancellations as they are not designed to cancel the stamps, as neither are the British ones. If they fall on the stamps that is purely coincidental.

A postmark/cancellation (depending on which country you come from) is designed to cancel the stamp and in modern times consists of several elements: a killer or slogan to prevent the stamp from being re-used, the name of the place or area of posting, and the date. Mechanised sorting bar-codes have none of these so I don't regard them as cancellations.


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Not so much a nice cover, as a nice idea. Addressed to a Thomas Stewart Boyd, who does exist as I have lots of other covers addressed to him, he has managed to get postmarks from Thomas-Oklahoma, Stewart-Alabama and Boyd-Kentucky all on the one envelope. I don't know how he did it, or if it is genuine but it does look like a great idea.

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An interesting cover I found recently in a box of odds and ends.

Sent from Hargeisa the capital of Somaliland an unrecognised self-declared state in the North of Somalia, which declared independence from the rest of the country on 18th May 1991.

Cover is sent c/o ICRC P.O Box 73226 Nairobi, Kenya the regional office of the International Committee of the Red Cross.

The 0.5 Somali shilling air letter has additional Kenyan stamps applied and all are cancelled Nairobi, Kenya 7th ? February 1992.

The cover is addressed to the Somali Section of the BBC World Service.


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Here's a nice cover I have recently acquired

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I saw it mentioned in SG Stamp Monthly and being an FDC collector I dug a bit further. What got me most about the article was the stamps themselves, I just thought they had something about them, so I contacted the Summer Isles Post Office http://www.summer-isles.com/post-office.asp and placed an order.

I really liked the fact that they actively declare their Scottish 'independence' by their pricing, which is in SG (sgillinn) and PS (Punnd Sasannach)! What tipped it for me though was that they are by a local artist Callum Innes and I liked them. I also think they now look rather good on cover.

This is completely outside of my mainstream collecting interests but sometimes we all pick up bits just because we like them. Don't we? Well thats what I've told Mrs JonEBoy :oops:

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I think that postmark on the Machin should go in the British Postmarks Database thread for its use of blue ink if for no other reason. It ain't right, and they seem to have used the same inkpad as was used on the Summer Isles labels.

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Hi Ian,

Will pop a cropped scan of it on there shortly.

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This is completely outside of my mainstream collecting interests but sometimes we all pick up bits just because we like them. Don't we?


I've just taken that fork in the road too! :D


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I purchased some train tickets from a collector a few weeks back. He knew I saved stamps also, so this is what the tickets came in
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Here are three Australian covers with "non-white wattles" 3d KGVI stamps. All sent to Chrysler Corp. in Detroit in 1938. The Dodge Brothers, long dead by 1938, is still Chrysler Corp. The Dodge Bros. cover was also cancelled in Detroit, but I can't make out the Aussie cancellation on this one. The other two are "Sydney/Visit Sunny Australia" and "Perth/Post Early Each Day". Can anyone make out the "Dodge" cancel? "FOO..." something.

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Here are six more Aussie covers sent to Chrysler Corp. and another auto-related company in 1938 to 1940.

1. from Adelaide, 1938
2. from Wentworth Motors (on back), Perth, 1939
3. Hadley's Hotel (on back), Hobart, 1939
4. Buckle Motors, Sydney, 1938
5. York Motors, Sydney, 1939
T. J. Gaffney (on back), Melbourne, 1940 to Columbus Coated Fabrics...

All I'm missing for the complete Aussie State capital set is Brisbane.

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All I'm missing for the complete Aussie State capital set is Brisbane.
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And all we're missing is your images - what have you done??

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[quote="kwesi"]Here are three Australian covers with "non-white wattles" 3d KGVI stamps. All sent to Chrysler Corp. in Detroit in 1938. The Dodge Brothers, long dead by 1938, is still Chrysler Corp. The Dodge Bros. cover was also cancelled in Detroit, but I can't make out the Aussie cancellation on this one. The other two are "Sydney/Visit Sunny Australia" and "Perth/Post Early Each Day". Can anyone make out the "Dodge" cancel? "FOO..." something.

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[quote="kwesi"]Here are six more Aussie covers sent to Chrysler Corp. and another auto-related company in 1938 to 1940.

1. from Adelaide, 1938
2. from Wentworth Motors (on back), Perth, 1939
3. Hadley's Hotel (on back), Hobart, 1939
4. Buckle Motors, Sydney, 1938
5. York Motors, Sydney, 1939
T. J. Gaffney (on back), Melbourne, 1940 to Columbus Coated Fabrics...

All I'm missing for the complete Aussie State capital set is Brisbane.

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A 1854 cover from Belgium. I like it because of the neat Fontaine l'Eveque cancel and the handwriting. It still looks quite fresh and is well balanced:



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Got this one in the mail the other day. Contents were the Journal of the Malaysian Philatelic Society.
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Here is an interesting one that I thought I would share, its not an area that I collect and it was part of a larger lot of items I purchased recently. I thought that this might have been the best place to "show it off":

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Cover from the office of the Administrator of Norfolk Island.

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Very nice incoming from Robert1 who has popped a lovely selection of stamps on this airmail cover to me

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And in the same post a rather unexpected but very nice cover from mcgooley with a block of four recent Australian stamps on there. Inside is a lovely letter (and Christmas card - thanks!) with an explanation that this has been sent to see if it will be picked up as being under the correct postal rate - and as you can see it slipped completely through the net.

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Thanks to all for the time and trouble to send these.

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I am glad you liked it Jon. That 60c Olympic Stamp is by far one of my favorites at the moment. Good to see the stamps and cover made it in good condition.

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Another nice cover in today's post, this time from Jace Stamps containing a rather nice item that he recently managed to acquire for me. As per the current postal norm, not a cancel is sight!! :roll:

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I love the line engraved and in a previous life I would have soaked these off..... :? but not now - having been on these boards for this long I now know that it's better on cover, and so that is how they will stay....

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Another nice one this time from Lundy

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Particularly like the nice light clean cancels which are generally as rare as rocking horse doings these days..

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Maybe not the most beautiful of all, but when compared to normal covers a sight for sore eyes.

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Something you don't see too often. A ÂŁ2 Arms FDC, registered air mail from Sydney to Long Island, New York.

Purely philatelic and no roller flaw, but who cares :!: :

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Lakatoi, that is one fine cover. Looks so clean and um damaged.

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Now I look closer, the tape remnants at the bottom and tear at the top do detract a bit.....but as Ron used to say'''"Show me another".

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I brought an arms set of four fdcs in the 80's that had a Beaufort Victoria cancel. They were forgeries and the dealer ended up refunding my money.

The arms set is one of my favourites. The two pound is very rare commercially used.

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Didge, were they forged stamps or forged postmarks??????

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Forged postmarks for first day of issue. Obviously someone got hold of a circular date stamp and started making fdc's I would be worried about and fdc from Beaufort vic

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Nice one and definitely a dollar cover.

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Fabulous to see people still using stamps! :D

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Well they are using stamps but they aren't always cancelled.

Here's a large cover (more of a parcel really) I recently received from a major UK auction house that's completely uncancelled anywhere:

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It seems to me that going to the trouble of putting stamps on an item like that, but not bothering to get it canceled...well, not a great advertisement, is it?

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It seems to me that going to the trouble of putting stamps on an item like that, but not bothering to get it canceled...well, not a great advertisement, is it?

The problem is that counters aren't obliged to cancel the stamps - that's the job of the sorting office. However, if the postage is underpaid and supplemented with a gold counter label, then the counters are supposed to cancel the stamps (because SOs don't officially cancel anything with a label). However, this takes time for the poster, and if they are sending a lot, then time is money.

Part of the point of the introduction of the labels was to save the SOs having to hand cancel all the post that can't get through the letter sorting/cancelling machines.

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This one has real charm:

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Of all the honours that Maharaja Rama Varma III of Cochin possessed, and that might have been referenced in the address, the writer has chosen his B.A. As a humble B.A. myself, I can only applaud :lol:

The cover is dated the equivalent of 4 April 1933. The stamps are of Rama Varma II, who had passed away the previous year.

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I purchased this one the other day, although a bit rough, I thought it was interesting!
Registered Cover from India 1972 with a Refugee Relief stamp as well as the many stamps and bits n pieces.

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BUT, my favorite, although dirty and grotty, is still my machine cancelled cover with two different dates??
No-one on Stampboards has come up with another in the "Show Me Another One Challenge", so I guess it is a one off!
Surely that makes it's worth something :lol:

Just for those who didn't see it previously.

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Bit creased, but still nice!
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A rather nice cover arrived this week, direct from the Bureau at St Pierre & Miquelon

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Looks like they go to a lot of trouble to choose nice stamps and lightly cancel them for you. Even the replacement postie who wrote on the cover did so with nice handwriting!

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I plan to visit St Pierre next year, from Newfoundland, so if you want some mail addressed to you let me know!

Here is my "Nice Cover" for the week I just listed up here for $90 - http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=40784

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1928 3d Kookaburra on possible FDC to UK. Cat $2000 if correct.

Interesting buy today. VERY clean unit for 84 years old

Marked as “First Day Issue” on very old SG album page, from a collection formed in the 1930s. Presumably by the person who received it.

Addressed to London, and then re-directed to Bangor, County Down, Ireland. Pretty cover, with great eye-appeal, and ornate wax seal on reverse.

Has a Sydney NSW machine cancel, but sadly can’t quite make out the date under the December 10 London arrival cancel which annoyingly is over the top.

This stamp was issued November 2, so 5 weeks to London from Sydney was very fast sea passage, (airmail did not commence until 1931) and the London arrival (or re-direction) cancel is on front and back, so no doubt whatever, about its arrival date on or even before December 10, 1928.

Cat $80 on ANY cover, and Cat $2000 on a FDC. You be the judge. :mrgreen:


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I plan to visit St Pierre next year, from Newfoundland, so if you want some mail addressed to you let me know!


Absolutely! Put me down for whatever you are sending! I'm convinced that on cover postal history is definitely the way to go as so few envelopes have stamps these days and those that do are normally definitives. Anything line engraved makes it into the collection these days...

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An interesting group of covers with a cut out label attached to each.

The Covers are all postmarked at the Queensland Centenary Exhibition 5 June 1959.

All bar one are on Official envelopes. The other is on stationary from the M.V. Manoora.

More info on the Manoora here: http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/v ... sp?id=3614

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Got these today from the Geelong Stamp and Coin Show. Exhibition covers from Singapore and China.
Font and back of the Singapore cover., stamps of Thailand, Singapore and France on the front and Macau, Malaysia, Hong Kong, Sth Korea, India,Australia and Gb on the back.
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The 3rd China Exhibition in 1988.

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Everyone likes small surprises. Had this in a box for a while without following my own advice(Always look in the envelope). So about the third cover in after reminding myself, this one popped up.

It's not an "All China is Red" or the 'Monkey" one :D But, for me, the envelope with the note and the extra stamps, makes a nice story of where they came from.

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Found this 1955 advertising cover from England and it's nothing special.

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But, when I searched for what Broadway Approvals did in 1955, it suddenly became more interesting!

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Broadway approvals was probably the biggest stamp packet-maker approval distributor in the country, certainly at the lower end, by volume.

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Broadway approvals was probably the biggest stamp packet-maker approval distributor in the country, certainly at the lower end, by volume.


Thanks norvic

So they delved into a variety of products?


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This one was on ebay Sudan S.G. 96-111 FDC Jan 1st 1948.

Missed out on the original but got a second chance offer on it.

Not bought much for my King George VI collection recently so picked it up.

Clean oversized cover.

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