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Anyone got any more info on why this occured?

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Thank for reading - doc

Could this thread have something to do with it

http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=2051&start=0

Might be because of this- got a withdrawn neg over that...
OR MAYBE GOT more?

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Interestingly davpot never got any return feedback from stampcollectorboz at all

I heard that davpot complained to ebay that the overprint was forged on that £1 Roo SPECIMEN, and that this is what got boz NARUd.

A bizarre accusation - who would devalue a Roo by overprinting it?

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Always on the lookout for Australian pre decimal First Day Covers.

From his ebay auction:



Perhaps someone should call and ask him the question

I have not seen that stamp or lot before. Interesting theory.

But to call this woefully centred looking cr*p "superb" invites all sorts of outcomes for sure.

The sneaky and persistent stampcollectorboz trick or showing woefully centred stamps on a WHITE background, as many on this board have pointed out before is plain deceptive. Especially when he shows the BACK on black as he did here! Talk about obvious.

Paying $720 for this unattractive example is just nuts, but that's the buyer's fault to be honest. Influenced no doubt by the total nonsense in lot description of "This stamp comes with my certificate of authenticity".

This person has NO right or mandate or authority to offer any such thing. Full stop. He is a private collector, nothing more. He can offer a written opinion on whatever he chooses, but that is NOT a "Certificate of authenticity."

Karma catches up eventually some might say.

Is that the same davpot member we have here?

I have dealt with stampcollectorboz for a while and he emailed me to say that he deregistered himself because someone broke into his house and stole alot of his stock.Also they got into his computer and took most of his info on people he had dealt with inc. bank accounts and email addresses.

It would worry me greatly if I had had any dealings with Boz and my personal info. inc. possibly credit card details had been stolen.

Perhaps he could verify this information regarding the break in by way of a police report.

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I can confirm that on 27th July he was vandalized and at that time he did not know what was missing so withdrew all his lots there was no compromise on security. I understand that a few non philatelic items went missing at that time.

Unfortunately with his bad luck he has been hacked into and should be back on air as soon as the problem is resolved.

I have been informed that all bidders information is secure. If any of his clients has any queries give him a ring on 0428622000.

I find it hard to believe he cancelled his account due to any alleged hacking of it.

It happended to me once and they insist you change your password, and confirm with them that had been done before they allow you to list anything else.

When that is confirmed with ebay - who insist they phone YOU on the phone contact they have for you to vertify all details, all is rosy again.

Your account at all times stays looking normal to others as do contact options.

His says: "Not a Registered User".

No-one can now leave feedback or contact him via ebay. ebay simply do not cancel memeber accounts for that very reason - unless you have broken some rules somewhere.

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Thank for reading - doc

Think you are barking up the wrong tree Doc. This is Boz's explanation of what has happened. Sounds OK to me.

"Dear Stampcollector Bidders,

Some of you may have noticed that on the 27th of July, I removed all my eBay lots using the reason "Item Lost or Stolen". I'd like to thank all of you who had made inquiries about what had happened and I'd like to explain to the rest of you in case you were wondering. Unfortunately on that day, vandals broke into my place, and had some things stolen. I did not know what had been taken and what I had left, therefore, I was forced to remove all my lots of eBay. I managed to sort it out eventually and get things back on track.

However, recently my account has been hacked into and I had no choice but to suspend my account until this matter is sorted out. I am currently working on this latest matter and hopefully it will all be resolved soon.

If anybody that has bought items from me and need further information, please do not hesitate to contact me. For those that have paid and are concerned about their payment, please email me at stampcollectorboz@gmail.com or call me on 0428622000...

If you have paid for an item, rest assured that the item will be sent out as usual and you have nothing to worry about.

Thank you all for your patience, and I hopefully I can get things back to normal soon.

Kind Regards,
John Bozic "

I have had a couple of dealings with "Bozzy" and have found him o.k. Yes he does "spruce" up his descriptions a lot but the photo is there for all to see. I would have to say that he has never done the wrong thing by me and I am happy to accept his explanation of what has happened. He has made his phone number public for anyone who has any concerns and I don't know what else you should expect of him. As with all auctions on ebay there are some people willing to bid well over the normal retail for an item. (To my advantage sometimes)

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Ken

Dont forget his phone number and email was listed on every listing he ever ran. He did not keep either secret. As you can see here:

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After a 4 or 5 days this looks like a banned user to me - on eBay's call, not his.

The bulk email you refer to was simply chasing up money, as ebay stopped him having any contact with buyers.

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Thank for reading - doc

Well over a week now, and stampcollectorboz still shows as a banned seller.

Does not appear to be a minor glitch?


http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d ... llFeedback

I am not sure what this talk about negative feedback is. I just checked and note that the eBay feedback shows that 'boz' has no negatives. ie. 100% positive feedback.

I also understand that he can still communicate with buyers that haven't paid for items, and that feedback can still be given and received.

Hello List! I just thought Id chime in here with reference to the pound roo Specimen above. I am embarrassed to say that I did, indeed pay a Very High price for the stamp you see! Mia Culpa! Pom made some assertion above about some complaint alleged to have been made by myself: NOT TRUE, Period. All in all, IMHO, it is still an attractive stamp.

I warned BOZ about his hidden cost structure, and accused him of "bait and switch" in reference to his hidden fees. He initially wanted an extra 5%!, but we settled on 3%! We agreed to Mutually withdraw any Neutral feed back or Negative feedback.

I'm not sure I would deal with the "Boz" again, as I feel really uncomfortable with his sales tactics. I came "-" that close to canceling my purchase based on his rather "high handed" tactiics. Now, I wish I had.

Hopefully, we ALL can live and learn. I had NO idea I was involved in his being "banned" or whatever you wish to call it.
A final word to all: Deal cautiously with sellers on Ebay unless you are pretty danged sure they are Ethical!

Dave

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david b. potts

Hi David,
Apologies for any misinformaton in my earlier post, I was reporting information I had received from a third party.
Cheers
Chris

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Always on the lookout for Australian pre decimal First Day Covers.

I don't follow this. If it is an ebay auction how can he charge you (or anyone else) 5% more?

When a seller sends an eBay invoice to the buyer, there are several "boxes". Box 1 will have the final auction price, which the seller cannot adjust
Box 2 is the postage cost, where the seller can type in what they want.
Box 3 is the "Additional Charges" box, in which you may add extra if, for instance, the buyer wants to add insurance/registration. Boz was adding 3-5% in this box.

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Always on the lookout for Australian pre decimal First Day Covers.

I have had this extra cost added on to my final price a couple of times on ebay but I have had no hassles with it. While I very rarely purchase a higher priced item thru ebay, If I do I always require it to be sent Insured mail for that extra protection. If they refuse to do this I simply cancel the sale and invite them to dob me into ebay and explain to them why. I am wondering if this is what confuses people sometimes.

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Simondunkerely said



toolhaus shows all his 'neg feedback' as
1 negative (must be recent?)
3 neutral
8 withdrawn
total of 12.

From my perspective its important cos it shows

that hes not perfect despite his 100%
shows any commonalities with complaints
proves hes got a 'damage control dept'
which generally means refunds or some form of redress

Withdrawls dont always mean happy customers because buyers are also protective of their 100% score and a threat/thought of a return bad neg makes withdrawls more appealing.

I like the way withdrawls have both parties comments so you have a better idea of the ethics and personalities involved.

PO insured mail costs 2%.

To charge 5% is plain extortion. On a $1000 Roo that is a $30 gouge right there.

If you do not mind being extorded your call I guess.

Boz is adding his extra % to cover his paypal fees, not postal insurance. Any time you receive money through PP, you pay them commission. He is passing this on to his customers - not allowed by ebay.

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Always on the lookout for Australian pre decimal First Day Covers.

ebay cancels an account immediately they are advised of that. And it costs nothing like 5%.

Perhaps that is why this dealer got banned?

ebay owns paypal and they insist you do not ask for extra to use it.

Your choice whether to accept it for payment, but if you do, you CANNOT demand extra for using it.

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I am somewhat amazed by all this vilification of Boz. I have dealt with him on a couple of occasions and have been happy with the transactions. he has some very nice stamps. Some don't like his photos, don't buy, its that simple. I can understand some professional argy bargy but to me it seems ill founded.
John Bozic I see from the latest edition of the Australian Commonwealth Collectors Club of New South Wales, is Hon.Treasurer. This Club is a highly respected , perhaps the most highly respected Philatelic Club in Australia. The President is Dr.Geoff Kellow and other committee members are: Ian Fuary,Lance Skinner,Arthur Grey, David Collyer and George henze amongst others. Many will recognize these gentlemen in the Philatelic world.

I think a good deep breath is called for before anyone jumps to odious conclusions.

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KGV tragic

I agree entirely with the previous post. I too have dealt with "Boz" before and have nothing but the utmost respect for him.

I honestly feel enough has been said. Lets leave it alone and get on with life.

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I'm not going to jump on anyone's bandwagon, just make an observation.

Many of the dealers, who have been proved to be shonky by this board and in other places on th Internet, have in the main sold good product with the bad thrown in. The bad often being what they couldn't sell in the general market because no-one would buy it.

By gaining a good reputation via feedback on Ebay, unsuspecting buyers are easily lead astray by flowery or deliberate mis-leading descriptions. However, for one or two per hundred the product that is advertised is inferior/fraudulent and this is where the problem lies.

Ebay as a company is there to make profit for their shareholders, anything else is secondary. As long as the profits keep accumulating, there is no real desire to ban anyone. If however, you break their rules, like add surcharges for Paypal etc. and they don't get their cut, then swift is the action.

Boz's connection to the esteemed Philatelic society has nothing to do with him selling on Ebay. I would envisage that many shonky people are members of highly regarded clubs and societies. I would suggest that all the police currently on suspension for offences are members of the Police Union, so membership in an association is no guarantee of honesty and integrity , even in the higher ranks.

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I guess this goes to the nub of the problem Bill, Do you feel that Boz is a shonky person?

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KGV tragic

Again, mine is purely a general observation and comment on the above. A number of prominent ebay dealers with stores will sell MUH decimals at usually just a bit, sometimes quite a bit over "normal" retail. These sales obviously make customers happy (quality MUH decimals - unlimited supply, and cheap to obtain).

This as Bob said, builds up positive feedback. The "better" (for want of a better word) items are the ones NOT sold from the store, but put up for auction.

They put up for auction the "rare" and "wierd" stuff, which buyers sometimes flock to, because they think that they are getting something really, really good, and note thousands of sales, and 100% feedback.

And there is from two dealers in particular, (whom shall remain nameless ) a huge chasm between their store items and the stuff they auction. Everything is either very common (store) or very rare (auction). No middle ground at all, which makes me somewhat suspicious.

I will however note that Boz (from memory) did actually seem to have an extremely wide range of product, so obviously is not one of the ones I am talking about relating to the above strategy.

Norm

One word. "Stigma". It's a bit like a debtor not realising what he's done until he becomes a bankrupt. Seemed like a good idea at the time, but the stigma lasts a long time.

If I was Boz I'd clear the air a little more effectively than he's done so far. I don't know him and haven't bought from him so I have no axe to grind.

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Hi Sandgroper,

No, I'm not necessarily saying the Boz is shonky. I think he has made a few bad decisions in his product and over-stated the quality on occasions. As far as I know he hasn't sold items which are dishonest in the sense of fraudulent overprints or perfins. Although I think he has sold at least one item which was questionable as to reperfing and o/ping..

He has also sold many good items to a wide range of customers including me ( long time ago) and before this board was up and running.

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Waroff49

The last chapter of the Never_Ending Story is being written.

I received an email from StampCollectorBoz concerning this thread. It was not sent through this board's email. I have no problems with him posting to me directly concerning my feelings and thoughts and possibly putting his side of the story. As it is my belief he cannot post on this board. ( I am open to correction on the last point.) To be fair, I would like to hear his side of the story.

What does UPSET me though, is that someone on this board is feeding him with posts from this thread, unless of course he is entering as a guest on someone else's computer. If it is the former, then I would like to know if they fed him with the complete thread, parts of the thread, individual posts or their interpretations of the posts.

I stand by what I have written as replies to others posts. I am ambivalent towards StampCollectorBoz. I have had some good deals from him but there are also some items I would not bid on. I made these decisions based on my knowledge of the material, what I saw and knowledge I gained from this board ( not including material in this thread).

I would hate to think that any person would be vilified on this board as part of a personal feud which occurs outside of this board. I would like to think that as collectors we have the sensibility to help and teach others not to crucify them.

Having said that, I also don't think we should sit back and let fraud flourish especially for those just beginning collecting, as has been shown with GeorgeOMighty case.

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Waroff49

The last chapter of the Never_Ending Story is being written.

Waroff, virtually anyone on the planet can look at Stampboards and read all the threads as long as they have a PC and the internet. No logging on is required.

I am not aware that Mr Bozic has been banned from here, not even sure if he has ever been a member. But even if so, a trip to the local library, internet cafe, a friends place, going via a different IP, or getting a new ISP is enough for anyone to see what is on these Boards.

Membership is required only to post, not to read.

Norm

Norm,
From his email he stated he had been advised that I had posted. If he had read it himself, he would have probably said - I saw or I read. That's the reason for my upset.

I fully understand that this board is read by many who are not registered.

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Waroff49

The last chapter of the Never_Ending Story is being written.

Hi Waroff49, Have just seen your recent posts.( are you also Billabong Bill?) I do not communicate with Boz if that is your thought. As Norm said anyone with a computer can access this forum and post. I have all along felt this is a fault and most probably a security nightmare. I feel that to enter the forum you should be a member, that way some control is exercised. As to Boz entering through someone elses computer, why not just sit home with the laptop in front of the telly and read all our scriblings?

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KGV tragic

Further to my above post( i had to rush off to the bacon and eggs) I should add that I would not see any problem whatsoever is passing along to third persons items posted here. it is a very public forum and dissemination of its information is desirable. I frequently take along to stamp club meetings copies of posts with all sorts of interesting matters for members. If anyone is worried about their posts being seen by others outside the forum DON'T POST, its that easy. I would also think that members should be aware of defamation laws if they get too carried away with a post. Politness and a relaxed attitude are required at all times.

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KGV tragic

I will add just some points encompassing discussion relating to the last three posts.

1. Anybody, as I implied, not just a member of this forum, could have contacted Mr Bosic and told him about this or any other thread. I am pretty sure that even if he does not read threads on this forum, he would probably have some non-member friends who do.

2. Regarding closed Boards, I am personally against them. I am a member of quite a number of BBs, involving quite a number of different subjects, some quite controvertial. None of them are closed. In fact, the only Boards I am aware of that are closed usually have something to hide. (I know people on several Boards who have signed onto closed Boards as Moles - easy enough to do). We have nothing to hide.

3. Even if this Board were closed to non-members, as long as they know what year a penny black was issued in, they can join without further issue. They do not have to post, to stay.

4. Leaving the Board open can encourage lurkers to join, especially if they see something of special interest that they wish to "chime in" on. The open Board encourages new members.

5. Potentially defmatory posts do not last long.

Norm

Thanks Norm your thoughts. This is the first time I have ever experienced a BB and so every day is a new experience. I defer to your greater wisdom on the virtues of open boards and will leave it at that.

ken

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KGV tragic

Its not the postings that are the problem, Boz can join anytime and defend himself.

waroff49 said



waroff49 if you trade ebay under that name and had email communication before with boz, I understand.

BUT if you didnt, then there is a major security problem, here.
And if you did you may have a still have a problem:

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This forum often worries me but in this case IMHO, boz has received a lot more support and respect than any other thread subjects.

If he was even slightly clever he would have joined and cried on everyones shoulder.
Boardmembers can be amazingly supportive, encouraging and loyal. (or they are 'moderated'!!)

all emphasis added

To answer, Yes I have dealt with Boz on ebay and if he is any sort of dealer at all, he will have kept correspondence concerning all his deals. I have also paid through paypal, so he would have my email address, that doesn't worry me as probably millions of people can get my email address.

Even if they don't that doesn't stop emails arriving in my in-box- it's called Spam.

As to what the other posters have said, I understand but that still doesn't make me feel any better, just more aware.

Regarding Boz, as I have repeatedly stated, I have nothing against him. If he is selling an item which I think is correctly described and at a reasonable price I'll go for it. If I think the description is shonky, incomplete or doesn't sufficiently fullfil what I think it should, or the scan looks off- I won't bid. If I'm in doubt, I ask questions of those whose opinions I trust. This is no different to Glen's lots, or Kevin's or Roly's or any other dealer that I deal with/ or often don't deal with.

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Waroff49

The last chapter of the Never_Ending Story is being written.

I really feel this thread has outlived its usefullness. Boz apparantly reads the posts but for his own reasons has chosen not to join. I would recomend that we give no more air time to Boz and let this thread slide to the bottom of the page.

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KGV tragic

First up - no-one can contact a member here unless they are also a member, and unless that member has also chosen to be contacted by enabling their email internal button.

This board gets around 1,2500,000 hits a MONTH average. Please read that again - 1,250,000 a MONTH .. as you can see via link below, with a vast amount of detail of where they come from if you click the left hand tabs on each month.

http://www.stampboards.com/webstats/

There are colour graphs and pie-charts and tables, and where each visitor comes from .. enough to amuse you all afternoon - and they are generated by the American IP host and are all 100% authentic. This a a VERY majotr stamp board, and no other on earth comes close.

So while we have about 1,400 registered members there are MANY times that who regularly read this board - every word of it at times. We estimate we have about 10,000 "very regular readers" from our control panel stats.

To respond to a query above I am quite certain that John Bozic = stampcollectorboz reads and is aware of most words on this forum, and has done for months, as I have seen evidence pointing to that over the months.

I have no problem with that. Delighted to be able to assist him and others.

In the 6 months we have been active we are getting up near ten MILLION hits.

This board is about sharing stamp info. Good and bad. It is too big now for any one person, or disgruntled clique to stop it growing by behind the back mutterings and mumblings.

It will be here next week, next month, next year, and next decade. EVERY word of it. We back up the entire board daily, photos and all, and one Moderator is to be thanked for that wonderful service.

Anyone who wishes to fall foul of the system does so at their own risk.

I've been on holidays in the Sahara Desert for 2 weeks and have hardly looked at a computer until today.

Despite that our fast acting and hard working team of Volunteer Moderators on 4 continents - as always - have acted swiftly on any nonsense aimed at disrupting the peaceful flow of this board.

They banned 2 fake handles and quickly removed their 40 idiotic posts in quick succession. Better still, I now learn one Moderator with excellent IT skills and contacts initiated that idiot's personal account at a major Australian IP to be banned and closed due to this childish stupidity as a proven spammer.

A pretty high price to pay for 5 minutes of being a complete childish jackass, as I am sure that person now ruefully agrees.

Any of 15 Moderators can remove EVERY post post made by a fake ID at a single keystroke on the control panel, and block their IP completely. So one really wonders why these idiots bother?

Whether folks use a hotmail, gmail or yahoo account etc, they all need a domestic IP, and when that is closed with no notice chaos reigns in their domestic and business life.

The tools the Moderators have at their disposal here are awesome. We have paid to have the basic phpBB software enhanced to a very high level. At a glance they can see data for every post made by every member and from where - and a host of other detail we are not discussing publicly.

Bottom line .. 99.999999999999% of our 1400 members do not need to worry about this, as they are posting useful and helpful and friendly info.

The stray jackass who does not have that objective, is the only one to need be bothered by what we can see - and what we can do about it. Which trust me - is PLENTY!

Glen Stephens

Agree 100%.

I could lock this board to "Members Only" access at a keystroke on the admin panel.

For the exact reasons you outline I choose not to do that.

LOTS of clubs and associations use sections of this board for their newsletters.

We are here to educate members all over the globe about stamps.

And as fromdownunder outlines - this board has nothing to hide.

The occasional peanut who wanders by and attempts to disrupt things, we can dispose of almost immediately, leaving all others free to enjoy - and add to the content here.

Glen

I have dealt with John Bozic on a numder of occasions, as a buyer on eBay, my user name on eBay is the one I use here. I have nothing to hide either. I have spoken to John a number of times on the 'phone number in his listings, it is genuine. I rang him yesterday, Sunday 21/10/07 and spoke for some time. He deregistered himself voluntarily from eBay after his house was trashed by vandals, and his computer was compromised. He then had a holiday and is currently looking after some personal affairs in Canberra, I know what it is, I won't disclose it out of confidence. John will be listing again on eBay very soon, as stampcollectorboz!!

Funny that!

I have the utmost of admiration for a man who has been collecting stamps for more years than I have been on this planet, but not by many.

My final word, leave John alone, he will be back and I will continue to deal with him, he is not shonky !!!!

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purplemac999 - I am always curious that often folks with just 1 or 2 posts find it onto these kinds of threads. Most interesting.

Just for the record, in case you have lost the plot on time lines, this supposed house burglary - by his own account, was THREE months back. There is no suggestion from anyone that stamp data was stolen or compromised then.

He traded stamps for months after that on ebay before being de-registered, for reasons as yet unknown publicly.

Sorry if this is at variance with your account, but letting the facts get in the way of a good story is always inconvenient sometimes. No-one said his phone number was not genuine. He in fact listed it on every lot write-up.

I am quite sure he loves talking to buyers like you who happily buy things like this 1928 Kooka MS from him:

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Clearly toned gum, hinged stamps and on many margins with ugly gum loss or thinning. Very average centred - yet described as "superb" and "EXCELLENT CENTERING" and he adds the utter fiction:

"BEAUTIFUL appearance front AND BACK. Lovely perforations, EXCELLENT CENTERING. The dealers are asking unbelievable premium for this central block. NICE glossy gum, WITH SOME crazing, which these are notorious for. 2 STAMPS HINGE TRACES, AND ALSO HINGED IN THE MARGIN . Melbourne dealer price list for this quality is $500+++++++++++. "

105% total baloney - EVERY word of it ... .

No real dealer on EARTH would ask $150 for this sheet, much less the ridiculously stated "$500+++++++++++".

If that absurd claim misled you or other ebayers I sympathise, but I suggest that was clearly what it was aimed to do. Full new ACSC is only $150 for hinged, and this one is sub grade. If you still feel that write-up is not "shonky" - well you deserve each other is my comment.

Did you pay the prohibited "% extra" gouge for PayPal out of interest?

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OK, point taken, I paid far too much for this block at $102.50 plus postage of $2.80. Total of $105.30. How much would you sell the same block for?? Not less than $150.00 I am guessing. Plus postage ?? Do you have a personal vendetta against John? Is he a fairer dealer than yourself????? Is he more honest?????????????? I believe there are anti-vilification laws in place in Australia these days and we are becoming a more litigious society, much like the Seppos. I have a good solicitor, so be careful what you post about me on a personal basis. Regards, purplemac999 aka John L Mackinnon, my real name, and listed in the white pages !!

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Sorry, I forgot to mention that I did look at the scans and I did supersize them, I knew what I was buying !! John.

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purplemac999 said on Monday 22 oct



and Sunday 4 nov.



John, The problem with boards is that everytime you post, the topic goes to the top and basicly gets rehashed.

Week BEFORE LAST Id hoped we had seen the end of this topic
Then you reopened it LAST week and AGAIN today.

Seriously, if you'r his friend, please do him and us a favour and dont post.:idea:

I personally am very conscious of other peoples rights/feelings in this forum and have previously publicly apologized when I infered something incorrectly.

However I dont take kindly to threats.,

You might wish to vilify (or ?) Glen - fine be my guest- but remember what you say publicly is to the public.

If purplemac999 is so keen to defend stampcollectorboz, why doesn't he get him to respond?

And for the record, the word "Seppos" (abbreviated rhyming slang from Septic Tanks=Yanks), is considered offensive, and you should be banned for it. Vilification works both ways Mr MacKinnon.

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