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(Mods - If this thread is in the wrong place, sorry, please forgive me.)
I would like to apply for a mailer's postmark permit so I can postmark my own mail. I have the form on hand, (#3615), and I filled out as much as I can.

Should I mail it to my local post office or the main one in Chicago?

Can I cancel just domestic mail, or all mail?

Also where would I get a rubber stamp to cancel my letters? I know to use just black ink, and just the 5 digit zip.

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Several members have them it seems .. some photos here -

https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=10456&p=421369
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If you succeed in your quest, remember to send a cover with your mailers mark on the first day of useage to the GOMC. regards

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I found a great website.

www.mppclub.org/HowToObtain.htm

Sound pretty simple. I'm going to apply for one I think. The only cost appears to be the stamp.
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Eqnox, thanks for the site, but I want to know where and how to get the stamp.

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Read the site..

An alternative is to obtain an MPP cancel from someone who makes them on a regular basis. There are two MPPC members who regularly make MPP cancels for collectors.

Joseph LoPreiato
EnotriaLP@aol.com



Joe can supply either the self-inking mechanical daters or the traditional rubber stamps that requires use of an ink pad. The latter comes with a changeable seven years date set. Joe has available an 8 page illustrated brochure, "Mailer's Postmark Permits". It's free via email. Otherwise, remit $2, at the address above, which is refundable with the first order of $15 or more.



William C. Porter

http://www.wcp-nm.com/mpp/

Bill provides both styles of MPP cancels in three configurations: standard moulding mounts, art stamp mounts (with the index laser engraved into the maple wood for permanence, aesthetics and to enhance the value of the rubber stamp from a collectable standpoint), and in self-inking models with or without dating mechanisms.

Note: The Mailer's Postmark Permit Club (MPPC) provides the above sources in good faith as a courtesy to our members and other interested parties.; however, it does not constitute endorsement of the sources. In addition, the MPPC cannot be held liable for any unsatisfactory results between members ans suppliers.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, the MPP allows you to use service-
inscribed stamps (notably the Transportations) which can
often be bought at a fraction of face value.

Are the postmarks valid for international mail?

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doug,
The short answer is yes and yes.

The long answer is.
http://www.mppclub.org/WhatIs.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Option A) You only want to cancel (postmark) your own mail with a rubber stamp. The postage stamps you are using are "regular" postage stamps available to the general public (e.g., 39 cent stamps; 3 cent stamps issued in the 1940s; 22 cent stamps; "First-Class" stamps without a numeric value; non-denominated "letter" stamps such as A rate, B rate, C rate, etc.). The stamps can be "new" stamps, "old" stamps or any combination thereof. (Of course, the stamps must be postally unused, and they must add up to the current rate for the piece you want to mail.)

Option B) You only want to use up extra precanceled stamps they have purchased from the USPS Stamp Fulfillment Services in Kansas City. A subset of precanceled stamps are referred to as "service-inscribed stamps," ones that say "Bulk Rate," "Presorted STD," "Non-Profit Organization," or something like that. A service-inscribed stamp may or may not contain a numeric value. (Note: precanceled stamps do NOT include "Official Stamps" or "Duck Stamps.")
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Erik did you apply for one?
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Funny you should post today, I was just about to update the thread with my results. I have applied for and I am about to receive my permit. My postmaster was very friendly but had never heard of the permit before. He agreed to issue me a permit and we helped each other out with the best way to proceed. I ordered my stamp from an online dealer and it arrived yesterday. Now all I need to do is get it approved by the postmaster and I am good to go. Once I get final approval and send out some covers I will post a scan.
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A shame we do not have a similar system in Australia!

To get nice hand cancels here you need to frequent a post office enough so they know you, and then manage to arrive to post your mail at a time when they are not busy and happy to let you apply the postmarks! For someone like Glen who spends a fortune on stamps through his local post office, they would probably be far more happy to oblige as compared to the collector who does not spend a lot of money there but wants to take up lots of time applying postmarks (often to stamps purchased elsewhere!)
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Nope. :!:

I just started school, so I have to find time to do so. 8)

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levi wrote:A shame we do not have a similar system in Australia!

To get nice hand cancels here you need to frequent a post office enough so they know you, and then manage to arrive to post your mail at a time when they are not busy and happy to let you apply the postmarks! For someone like Glen who spends a fortune on stamps through his local post office, they would probably be far more happy to oblige as compared to the collector who does not spend a lot of money there but wants to take up lots of time applying postmarks (often to stamps purchased elsewhere!)
I have managed to get my local PO's hand cancel and apply it (but as you say, only when they weren't busy, which is very rarey).

My stamp club has their own special custom hand canceller (I'll load up a scan to the board tonight). I guess that goes back a long way as the club was formed in the 1890's and a member (and the patron) at one stage was King George the Fifth (when he was the Prince of Wales). That sort of thing carries a fair bit of clout with the Post office :!:
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The previous owners of what used to be my little local LPO usd to love me and let me apply cancels myself any time of day even if they were busy... because I saved them the cost of two new postmarks!

Their date bands were wearing out (and were about to run out of years) and so I organised an order of replacement date bands to be shipped to them from federal stamps... only cost a bit of shrapnel (I even paid it for them!) and their postmarks had a new lease of life.. a whole extra ten years in front of them (assuming the rest of the cancel didnt wear down but they were in good nick!)

They also used to let me do layaways and I had a box of things "on hold" for me :) I'd place my order when any new bulletin came out and then I would buy what I'd ordered as my budget allowed (I was in high school and then first year uni back then so didnt have loads of cash!)

Unfortunately the LPO has sinced changed hands (for the third time since 2001) and whilst I was introduced to the second lot of owners and continued the relationship. I was not introduced to the current new owners & so all rapport has been lost as its all new staff :( I've moved away anyway so I guess it doesnt matter as I use other post offices now!
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(Photo taken with cell phone in post office. Quality is poor)

My first batch of canceled covers went out today, with the rarely used airmail stamp. I have learned several things with this first batch. The first is the importance of having a good ink pad. The one I currently have leaves impressions which aren't as crisp as they could be. Second is my laser printer just can't print envelopes.
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eqnox wrote:Image
(Photo taken with cell phone in post office. Quality is poor)

My first batch of canceled covers went out today, with the rarely used airmail stamp. I have learned several things with this first batch. The first is the importance of having a good ink pad. The one I currently have leaves impressions which aren't as crisp as they could be. Second is my laser printer just can't print envelopes.
Many thanks Ian,

Mine arrived in today's mail.

Anything you would like from australia in return?

Cheers, Kev.

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I have never seen that 98-cent stamp before; shows how
well I keep up with new issues. :lol:

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Mine arrived as well - thanks a lot 8)
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Kev, I am glad it arrived safe and sound. You don't have to send me anything. Someone else is sending me a cover back so I have a mailed copy.

Doug,
I really like the recent US airmail stamps. I almost never see them used correctly on covers.

I am glad they are all arriving safely.
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Could you send me your address via PM? I would like to send you a cover to receive your North Berwick MPP, if I could please.

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If anyone would like any of my MPP's, feel free to send SASE's or cards with first class or international postage to me at address provided here: http://qsl.net/kg0yh/polarbear.htm Feel free to enclose an outer protective SASE if you wish; an outer SASE is required for Lamar, as I don't go there often enough to justify making a special trip just for one or two requests. (Lamar will be returned under cover.)

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Thanks, Ian, got your MPP in good order and no overcancels!
I appreciate it.

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Wes,
I am glad. I am going to get a better ink pad. The standard Staples pad seems to smudge and run all over the place. I am going to invest in a rubber stamp ink pad. They seem to work much better and are crisper.
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I just got a letter returned and I feel it could have gone in a hot air balloon. Mailed Oct 26 2009, returned to sender on Nov 13th 2009, went sight seeing for 2 months, and returned to me Feb 06 2010. While hard to see no less than 6 bar codes, 5 in the unscanable orange. No more stamps so you now get the finger on a sticker.

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Eric- Did you ever get one of these?

I was thinking about trying this myself, as I seems every time I want to take the time to nicely postmark something there are 5 impatient people behind me lugging heavy parcels who get pissed off at me as I cancel my stack of stuff at the counter. :roll:


About how much does the custom postmark cost?

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Here's the company I used to make mine, very helpful. He even called me to make sure he got the order right. He also uses an MPP.

http://www.wcp-nm.com/mpp/


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I am going to get a better ink pad. The standard Staples pad seems to smudge and run all over the place.

I am going to invest in a rubber stamp ink pad. They seem to work much better and are crisper.
Buy your own ink pad of "StazOn" fast drying ink - buyable globally.

I can cancel on plastic and vinyl tape etc with this.

My PO cancel looks superb using this.
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Exact some stuff I use on mine. And you can get it from the posted link in my last post.

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Works superbly on the gloss paper that stamps are printed on these days.
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I looked around the site you posted and found these two interesting....

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...But I thought that there were only two designs to choose from?

https://www.mppclub.org/index.html

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This is the style I chose:

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This got overprinted, thanks post office. :cry:

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grantsstamps wrote:This is the style I chose:

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This got overprinted, thanks post office. :cry:

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If this one indeed is legal to apply for I'd grab it in a HEARTBEAT. Looks like a real PO canceller.

Anything with those wiggly lines as part of it looks dorky IMHO, especially if the stamps are soaked off.

Wish Australia would allow this system. :idea:

I wish ALL collectors would take time to select decent stamps even for 60c mailing. These i have in my travel bag right now to mail standard size 6x4" letters at 60c.

ALL of them have some value when cancelled, indeed the 1979 Waterfall Gutter Pair shown here is still today worth a few $$$s even used.
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If this one indeed is legal to apply for I'd grab it in a HEARTBEAT. Looks like a real PO canceller.

Anything with those wiggly lines as part of it looks dorky IMHO, especially if the stamps are soaked off.

Wish Australia would allow this system. :idea:
I agree- here's a "real" post office canceller with basically the same design...

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Well, once it stops snowing :evil: I'll see if I can get down to the post office and hand in my application...

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If this one indeed is legal to apply for I'd grab it in a HEARTBEAT. Looks like a real PO canceller.
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Do you still want one such canceller/postmarking device, from USA?
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levi wrote:A shame we do not have a similar system in Australia!

To get nice hand cancels here you need to frequent a post office enough so they know you, and then manage to arrive to post your mail at a time when they are not busy and happy to let you apply the postmarks! For someone like Glen who spends a fortune on stamps through his local post office, they would probably be far more happy to oblige as compared to the collector who does not spend a lot of money there but wants to take up lots of time applying postmarks (often to stamps purchased elsewhere!)
I just found this cover from a fellow Stampboard's member, addressed to me some years back now.

Seems he managed to obtain one of these mailer's postmark permits.

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The actual Australian decimals in the top right of the envelope have a regular Australia Post postmark on them. Seems he added this sticker on himself, for aesthetic effect.

So, I wonder - could I order one of these from the US, use it on my mail next to the stamps, and leave the actual official Australian postmarking of the Australian decimals up to the PO clerk?

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