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Re: South Australia: "Squared Circle" Stamp Postmarks discussion

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I found an odd postmark, I think it's something Springs but it was difficult to figure out because the only part of the date is a 5 and it's upside down. Is there anyway to narrow it down?
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Thanks, GraniteSA. The upside down 5 threw me off at first.

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Hello,

I found this little South Australia stamp with a part squared circle postmark beginning with "COWAR... dated OC 88. Is this an example of COWARD SPRINGS from the first period it was open? Unfortunately just a part strike, but as the first period was open for a quite short time, is this one rated somehow?
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Josto, it's rated RRRR, and I don't have a copy (yet) so it's not so easy to find.

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Hi Greg,

thank you very much for your info. It's only a part strike, but if you'd be interested, just let me know.

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Thanks, Josto

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Hi Folks,

Looking for help with this S.A. Strike, looks like RU..FS but nothing showing on Phoenix.

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Is this squared circle postmark Port McDonnell? Everything lists the name as Port MacDonnell which makes finding it even harder.
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Hi Folks,

Looking for help with this S.A. Strike, looks like RU..FS but nothing showing on Phoenix.

Cheers Mal
Ok on further inspection "RU...ES" not "FS" but still no match on Phoenix.
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Found it "Rundle St"
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Is this squared circle postmark Port McDonnell? Everything lists the name as Port MacDonnell which makes finding it even harder.
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Yes - engraved without the A
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Is this Coromandel Valley? And is rated?


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Yes, the cancel is 'Coromandel Valley' which is rated 'R'. Late date is 1920 and this one appears to be used in 1918.

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Thanks,Mike. Always interesting finding a squared circle cancel on a Roo stamp.

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Hello everybody. These three S.A. cancels are eluding me, and I was wondering if anybody could help? They are not complete by any means, unfortunately.

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Red Hill

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Narracoorte


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Registered Adelaide
Probably Largs Bay
Narracoorte
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Thanks!

My first thought on 3 was Naracoorte, but the -RR- spelling fooled me.
Largs Bay seems right.
Registered Adelaide is very impressive, I can see it now but would never have thought of it!

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Tod.Moore wrote:
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Middle one could also be Sceales Bay.

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Found one more to add to my collection at a fair last week - Melton JY 3 1891 or 1897 but a nice strike

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Is Custon rare? I have a type 2 full strike on a PPC to Bordertown bearing 1d Kangaroo dated DE 22 15 (The 15 being at the top and inverted.

Can do a scan after the weekend if you guys think it is scarce.

The postcard reverse is also inverted.
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CUSTON dated DE 22 15 per my previous post.
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From Lot 851 of Sale 234 at Prestige.

Custon (2): Squared-Circle 'CUSTO[N]/SE13/08/S-A' arrival on PPC. Rated RRR. PO 1.10.1908; closed 10.11.1917. Est $125.

Can't tell you if it sold as this is from a PDF catalogue. PPA do not have this closing date, theirs is in 1959.
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This came in a lot from the Estate of Margaret Martire, recently sold at Abacus.
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Be hard to see a better strike than that one. :)
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Especially on an embossed postcard!
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Hi!

I found this squared circle postmark of RAMCO, dated 22 AP 21, is it rated somehow? Unfortunately I don`t have a better scan at the moment.
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RAMCO, known used from 21 May 1897 to 27 Nov 1923, so not an LRD.
Rated RRR or RRRR depending on who is doing the rating.
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Hi dwhopper,

thank you very much for the information!

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Hello everybody. This post is slightly off topic, as it concerns a TOO LATE cancel. This had been discussed previously on an old Stampboards thread, here:

DISCUSS: Postage stamps & postal markings of South Aust.

https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=7245

That one seems defunct, but this was the final post, in 2014:



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The topic returns because of Glen’s sale earlier today, see here:

WA 6d Swan “used” forgery and strange S.Aust one - $A40

https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=91751


Here are Glen’s ‘strange’ S.A. (left), and secondly, one of mine, size reduced. They may or may not be the same cancel, it is hard to say.



South Australian stamps with TOO LATE cancels, circa 1868.
South Australian stamps with TOO LATE cancels, circa 1868.


If it is the same cancel, it looks like a steel cancel, and the CDS on Glen’s 2d. roulette is dated 1868. This seems to be new information. Cheers. Tod. :)

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All PO's were issued with a brass too late hand stamp.
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GraniteSA wrote:
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All PO's were issued with a brass too late hand stamp.
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Thanks for clearing that up, Neville. They all had them! Wow! :o

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josto wrote:
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Hello,

I found this little South Australia stamp with a part squared circle postmark beginning with "COWAR... dated OC 88. Is this an example of COWARD SPRINGS from the first period it was open? Unfortunately just a part strike, but as the first period was open for a quite short time, is this one rated somehow?

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I just came across this post card, post marked in COWARD SPRINGS December 15 06?
I guess, that would be the second period?

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Hello Peter,

Your Coward Springs is indeed type 2 hand stamp

27mm
27-7-1897 to 1930
4 corner bars, arcs 3mm, hyphen 2mm
The Hand -held Postmarks of S.A. and the N.T.


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Hello Peter,

Your Coward Springs is indeed type 2 hand stamp

27mm
27-7-1897 to 1930
4 corner bars, arcs 3mm, hyphen 2mm
The Hand -held Postmarks of S.A. and the N.T.


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Hello Peter,

Coward Springs,

type 1 is 4R, and your type 2 is rated common

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Thank you for your info Fleurieu55

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Sold this stunning looking stamp earlier today - Roo 9d 3rd, SA superb Squared Circle ''PORT WAKEFIELD''

Quite astounding strike of the SA state period ‘’PORT WAKEFIELD’’ Squared Circled cds – that Postmasters were warned NOT to use from 1913 issue of first Roo stamps, and near all complied.

Look at the weird placement of the ‘’NOV 20 – 16’’ date slug push ins … all out of square! And an UPRIGHT strike – clean and flat and fresh.

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Hello,

here is a South Australia 2d orange with a squared circle postmark from WARCOWIE dated DE 12 96 or 99. The second year number might be the lower loop of a six or perhaps the upper loop of a 9. My first thought, when I saw it, was, that is is DE 12 96. Browsing through the web I found, that a squared circle from Warcowie is rated 3R and that the known examples have dates between 1904-1906. The diameter I measured is 25. Is this just a new earliest date by at least 5 years or maybe even a different type of postmark? Would that have an impact on rarity? Any help and opinions would be great.
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josto wrote:
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Hello,

here is a South Australia 2d orange with a squared circle postmark from WARCOWIE dated DE 12 96 or 99. The second year number might be the lower loop of a six or perhaps the upper loop of a 9. My first thought, when I saw it, was, that is is DE 12 96. Browsing through the web I found, that a squared circle from Warcowie is rated 3R and that the known examples have dates between 1904-1906. The diameter I measured is 25. Is this just a new earliest date by at least 5 years or maybe even a different type of postmark? Would that have an impact on rarity? Any help and opinions would be great.

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Thanks a lot

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Hi Josto, lovely postmark :mrgreen:

I would surmise this is an ERD with an 1899 date, and I would suggest you re-post this here so Neville can comment..
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Or 05 inverted???
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