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https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AUSTRALIA-UNUSUAL-5-MINT-NEVER-HI ... 7675.l2557

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Can you believe that DOZENS of brain dead bidders keep fighting over this total fantasy junk that UK seller hurlford1954 keeps listing up. This is one of several of the same Fantasy the Bunnies have gone into a frenzy over - selling for $A128.50 in this case.

A quick check shows ebay conman hurlford1954 lists up and sells heaps of total fakes and replicas and fabrications, and often the Bunnies bid it all up to 3 figures.

https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/hurlford1954/m.html?item=321246184683&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc

hurlford1954 keeps listing this junk up, and these dopey lunatics keep bidding for it. Fakes from Australia, from China, and from anywhere he thinks there are bidders.

There was never a £5 stamp from Australia, and never any essays for one. The ACSC lists no such value. Hence there IS no such value existent.

Does that stop these clueless nutters buying hurlford1954 laser printed rubbish?

A quick check of this crook's past sales shows these items have been offered many times before. How bright do you need be to check past sales for goodness sakes, before kissing $128 of money away forever on total junk? :twisted: :roll:

This spiv hurlford1954 sells them as "PROOFS?" yet knows darn well that the laser printer ink is barely dry. :roll:

He does not mark them on reverse as fakes or reprints or replicas, as the ebay rules now clearly insist is done on such material

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Please report these dodgy sellers on the special link ebay has set up for that purpose -

https://www.tinyurl.com/ebayfakes - also found at - https://www.ebay.com/scw- there is space for 10,000 characters in your reply, so all the relevant info can be added. Unlike most ebay complaint forms that allow just 100 characters etc.

Please take a moment to do BOTH ….. do the “Report Item” drop-down, and give a summary on the link above.

Most likely they will go to 2 different ebay staffers, and that is double trouble for the faker stamp sellers. :idea: :idea: :idea:

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This was his silly waffling description for a bunch of colour-separations of one of the PRC Goldfish stamps,
GOOD LOT,CONDITION/MARGINS AS SCAN,PART OF A PRE CATALOGUED COLLECTION I BOUGHT,BECAUSE OF THE LARGE CATALOGUE VALUE AND THE LATER REPRINTS/COPIES /REPRODUCTIONS/ PRODUCED, SOLD AS SHOWN/FILLERS/STUDY PURPOSES,NO RESERVE.DISCOUNTED POSTAGE ON MULTIPLE LOTS.
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aethelwulf wrote:
This was his silly waffling description for a bunch of colour-separations of one of the PRC Goldfish stamps,
GOOD LOT,CONDITION/MARGINS AS SCAN,PART OF A PRE CATALOGUED COLLECTION I BOUGHT,BECAUSE OF THE LARGE CATALOGUE VALUE AND THE LATER REPRINTS/COPIES /REPRODUCTIONS/ PRODUCED, SOLD AS SHOWN/FILLERS/STUDY PURPOSES,NO RESERVE.DISCOUNTED POSTAGE ON MULTIPLE LOTS.
The brain dead ebay Bunnies made 39 bids on 1 lot of those - paying $A1,540 for 10 cents worth of forged junk -

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CHINA-1958-UNISSUED-SET-FISHES-PE ... 4aca188ade

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These probably originate from the seller scottvisnjic from Taiwan:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/390684999710

All his lots are fantasy stamps and they are marked on the back, but in pencil so they can easily be rubbed off.
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And this one pocketed hurlford 1954 a whopping $A94 after 34 bids. Don't these stupid bidders realise there was NEVER a "£1" or "£5" essay like this produced?

They can buy a thick ACSC off me for $A94 to LEARN something about stamps, before lemming like bidding on things that never existed. :roll:

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Note that there's an entire set of these.
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It sold for just $15. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/400597374419
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That seller is simply pencilling in the "fake" wording, which can be easily erased.

The ebay rules are clear. "Marking that CANNOT be removed"

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Ebay fakes seller scottvisnjic from Taiwan is also breaching ebay rules - PLEASE report him.

Please report these dodgy sellers on the special link ebay has set up for that purpose -

https://www.tinyurl.com/ebayfakes - also found at - https://www.ebay.com/scw- there is space for 10,000 characters in your reply, so all the relevant info can be added. Unlike most ebay complaint forms that allow just 100 characters etc.
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HalfpennyYellow wrote:Note that there's an entire set of these.
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It sold for just $15. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/400597374419
I would probably pay $15.00 for those, as curiosities. They are quite pretty. :oops:
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Perhaps you might also like this catalogue?


Commonwealth & Empire Stamps 1840-1970 2012: Stanley Gibbons Stamp Catalogue

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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Commonwealth-Empire-Stamps-1840-19 ... 46162c451a

It's a snip ay £999.

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Give him a call, Glen, and ask him to do an interview for stampboards. The number is on his listings. He can have his right to reply then. I would be interested to hear what he might have to say about some of the comments above.

He had only a few negative or neutral feedback out of more than 5000. The buyers of the materials described above don't appear disappointed with their purchases.

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Is a "fantasy stamp" a replica?

Strictly, if the design is original then it's not actually replicating anything. Nor is it a counterfeit of an actual stamp.

Perhaps that's the loophole the seller is exploiting.

Having said that, if the seller is saying or implying that the stamp is an official issue of Australia (or a proof) then that would be false or misleading advertising.
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I simply cannot believe that such "stupidity" exists out there. It is assumed that if someone collects a certain country they should know what they collect..and for what they are bidding. It doesn't seem so in these cases. As mentioned, they just bid and make some "idiot" rich in the process.

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There are many gullible people - old & young - who are consistently fleeced by "sharp" operators.

You see them every night on the TV, read about them in newspapers & hear their story on talkback radio.

It might be over investments, land purchase, fake holidays, defective housing, "gold" coins, training courses, employment certification courses, share certificates, defective home renovations, phony charities.

Why wouldn't our hobby not attract some of the riff-raff scum ?
To protect ones self just ask yourself questions BEFORE committing to spend money on anything outside your scope of expertise.

If in doubt ...........don't become involved.

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JohnB wrote:Perhaps you might also like this catalogue?


Commonwealth & Empire Stamps 1840-1970 2012: Stanley Gibbons Stamp Catalogue

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Commonwealth-Empire-Stamps-1840-19 ... 46162c451a

It's a snip ay £999.
Must be popular at just £999, they've sold out! :lol:

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I've never understood why people buy this junk.

They are NOT stamps. They are peices of paper, worth nothing.

If you want non real stamps, just cut photos out of an auction catalogue.

Why pay for this dross? :roll:

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Some of us are cinderella collectors.

But a fantasy cinderella should be sold as that, and not pretend to be a postage stamp.

And should sell at a price that reflects its true nature.
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kiranoukid wrote:
... if the seller is saying or implying that the stamp is an official issue of Australia (or a proof) then that would be false or misleading advertising.
READ the links - of course he implies/states these things are proofs, yet knows darn well the ink is not dry on them from the faker.

Report this con on the links above folks and point out to ebay they are NOT marked as fakes or repros as their rules clearly say they MUST be these days. 10 reports and he is gone. :idea:

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I'm no expert, but honestly, the printing looks of pretty crummy quality compared to the 'normal' roos out there...

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Have done the report.

Hopefully this guy is stopped from selling crud.

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Spartacus wrote:As mentioned, they just bid and make some "idiot" rich in the process.
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Nope, the guy is not an Idiot. He is a fraud, con man, deceiver, liar, but not an Idiot. Idiots are the guys bidding.....

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To all the people bidding on this junk, here, I will save you $1000

Print this picture out. Cut around the perfs.

Wow! Heaps of rare new valuable 'stamps' to add to your collection :roll:

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Norbert Jenkins wrote:The buyers of the materials described above don't appear disappointed with their purchases.
Its one thing to buy that whole set at $15 as cinderellas, less than $1 each, they're colourful and interesting.

To drop $100+ on just 1 of these fantasy things though shows people are expecting something that isn't--namely, they think they're getting a bargain-priced rarity.
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I'd pay $15 for the set given that the £5 "stamp" alone has a proven market value of over $120. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Hi all, Their are only three geniune copies in private hands of the Type 1 Essay stamps that are depicted as cinderellas in this post.
One of these ACSC BW KE2 , the 2/1/2d blue, is being offered as Lot no. 1332 in the upcoming auction by Charles Leski ( now part of the Mossgreen Group on Tuesday 19th. December
Estimate is $80,000- $100,000.
The remaining two the Imperforate 1/-in brownish red and blue, and the rouletted 5/- in green and carmine are safely residing in a collection in Australia.
The website for Mossgeen is:www.mossgreen.com.au
The cinderella's are very attractive and $15 should be considered a fair price to illustrate this rariety if the printing is of fair quality
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JohnB wrote:Perhaps you might also like this catalogue?


Commonwealth & Empire Stamps 1840-1970 2012: Stanley Gibbons Stamp Catalogue

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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Commonwealth-Empire-Stamps-1840-19 ... 46162c451a

It's a snip ay £999.
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Hi all, In my previous post I may have inferred that all of the values shown were illustrations of Type 1 Essays. I wish to correct this impression. Many of those illustrated were NEVER included as Type 1 Essays. There were only 8 copies of the Type 1 Essay produced and these were in the following format:
Perf. 14 1/2. KE 1... 2d. Blue
KE 2.....2 1/2d.Blue
KE 3....9d. Bistre.
KE 4.....1/- Brown

Imperforate
KE 5A....1/- Turquoise & Bistre.
KE 5 B...1/- Brown & Blue.
Perf. 14 1/2
KE.. 6.....3d. Carmine & Black.
KE 7.......5/- Carmine & Green.
KE 8.......20/- Carmine & Blue.

The other values illustrated in the 16 shown are just mock ups .
The other interesting point is that the term "Pound" was never used ie. it was referred to as 20 shillings.
I consider that these should be referred to as "Labels" as they are not facsimilies, replicas, or true copies of the original items and marked as such.
Of the above 5 are in the Australia Post collection, 2 are in an Australian collection, 1 is being offered in the Mossgreen Sale on 10th. December the present status of the other copy is unknown.
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I might have missed this in the Michel Specialized.
Was going to ask the seller if there were any line pairs, paste-ups, or back numbers. :D


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edit: Just back from dinner with a few thoughts.
A. If this is legit, I'll feel a bit :oops:
B. If not, then someone had to spend time to split up five sheets and paste them together :shock: what a time waster. May have been able to sell the sheets as was for the same price.
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I am glad to see this thread. It is informative.

I posted a thread on an other board (which will remain unnamed) pointing out ebay's policy regarding fakes, reprints, forgeries, etc ... and received a lot of "flack" (abuse) for doing so.

It is nice to be with like minded people .
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One of the problems with the high quality of catalogues that modern auctions produce is that they provide a ready source of artwork for forgers, particularly when the catalogue is online. Sperati t. al. would turn in their graves to see how easy it is now.

The genuine article on the Mossgreen site has an estimate of $80-100,000 so it is a magnet for conmen.

People expect to see good quality scans these days so why don't the auction sites deface the image as was once the law.

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Of course, the spivs will still have designs to work with but it would make it a little harder. Perhaps Stampboards members need to think of this when we show high quality scans of our gems.
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Sorry, but I must disagree. If people started posting defaced images or worse those horrid watermarked "copyright" images (the sort you come across looking for decent photo images), then people will just stop looking and reading. Members may no longer visit.

If some twit wants to spend his good money on an easily identifiable forgery due to his total ignorance and lack of knowledge, that's his loss.

The best we can do is educate them to stop, look both ways and then not buy something fake.

Any basic research would have shown that that set never existed, nor was ever issued.


Apart from that sticking a line through it wouldn't not stop me from being able to copy the image. I always assumed that the line was only here to stop someone actually cutting it out and using it for postage! Once past copyright it's fair game anyway even if the line was for copyright protection.

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patg wrote:I might have missed this in the Michel Specialized.
Was going to ask the seller if there were any line pairs, paste-ups, or back numbers. :D
.....

edit: Just back from dinner with a few thoughts.
A. If this is legit, I'll feel a bit :oops:
B. If not, then someone had to spend time to split up five sheets and paste them together :shock: what a time waster. May have been able to sell the sheets as was for the same price.
C. 7 bids!
Quite legit. These are normally collected in strips of 11. Line pairs,
paste-ups or back numbers do not exist.

In the Spezial, look for the "Elferstreifen bis 1945" page just after
the regular issues and before Markenheftchen, etc. section.

IMO, complete rolls or even partial rolls are rarely seen. But how
does one display them?

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europhil wrote:IMO, complete rolls or even partial rolls are rarely seen. But how does one display them?
Tear the first and last stamp from the roll, mount them on an album page with a notation indicating where they came from and that they're representative of the roll.

No, not meant to be taken seriously. :mrgreen: It is a cumbersome thing to display, so that could diminish interest. Just as most people don't collect mailbags or postboxes, "that's a nice item, I'd like to have it...but what do I do with it?"
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IMO, complete rolls or even partial rolls are rarely seen. But how does one display them?
I didn't know stamp collectors displayed things. Most of the collections I see are thrown into boxes. :lol:

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http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/Australian-Stamps-/3468/m.html?it ... rlford1954

This guy is still listing his fake trash and still getting bids. :roll:

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This guy is still listing his fake trash and still getting bids.
And I bet he will get premium price for these fakes from some clueless bidder.

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europhil wrote:
patg wrote:I might have missed this in the Michel Specialized.
Was going to ask the seller if there were any line pairs, paste-ups, or back numbers. :D
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edit: Just back from dinner with a few thoughts.
A. If this is legit, I'll feel a bit :oops:
B. If not, then someone had to spend time to split up five sheets and paste them together :shock: what a time waster. May have been able to sell the sheets as was for the same price.
C. 7 bids!
Quite legit. These are normally collected in strips of 11. Line pairs,
paste-ups or back numbers do not exist.

In the Spezial, look for the "Elferstreifen bis 1945" page just after
the regular issues and before Markenheftchen, etc. section.

IMO, complete rolls or even partial rolls are rarely seen. But how
does one display them?
Jay,
Thanks for the info, I always appreciate learning something new.

That is a pretty obscure (1)page; my fault for not knowing what "Elferstreifen" referred to. Of course when I go to my trusty Google translate, it tells me it's a "Penalty strip". :shock:
I'm more used to seeing the roll info next to the issue.

Part of my suspicion came from the way it was displayed and described; among other miscellaneous items as from a non-collector. It actually came up somehow when I was doing a search for GB Machins .

If uncommon as they seem to be, maybe someone here can pick up a deal.
My slight :oops: was tempered by the arrival of a newish Facit catalog; this with large parts in English! :D

Thanks & best to all,
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That is a pretty obscure (1)page; my fault for not knowing what "Elferstreifen" referred to. Of course when I go to my trusty Google translate, it tells me it's a "Penalty strip". :shock:
I'm more used to seeing the roll info next to the issue.
Weird translation! Elferstreifen really means "strips of eleven".

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Maybe that's what you get in German schools for being naughty.
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europhil wrote:
That is a pretty obscure (1)page; my fault for not knowing what "Elferstreifen" referred to. Of course when I go to my trusty Google translate, it tells me it's a "Penalty strip". :shock:
I'm more used to seeing the roll info next to the issue.
Weird translation! Elferstreifen really means "strips of eleven".
Suppose it relates to soccer as in penalty line (distance from which penal shots)!

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patg wrote:I might have missed this in the Michel Specialized.
Was going to ask the seller if there were any line pairs, paste-ups, or back numbers. :D


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edit: Just back from dinner with a few thoughts.
A. If this is legit, I'll feel a bit :oops:
B. If not, then someone had to spend time to split up five sheets and paste them together :shock: what a time waster. May have been able to sell the sheets as was for the same price.
C. 7 bids!
Pat, can you post up a link to those lots - I feel dopey and clueless bids coming on :lol:

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Happy to.
I didn't want to put a name out before I knew more.
The big roll is gone, but maybe he would have others if you ask.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/alan0747/m.html?item=181276815333&ha ... 7675.l2562

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Scottvisnjic has recently began to sell Malta fantasy stamps. The have designs taken from the 1938 issue but with the portrait of King Edward VIII instead of King George VI. He also sold a forgery of the St Paul 10/- black from 1919-1922.

Note that the blocks of 4 at the top of the image are not from him, but from a Latvian ebay seller.
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While I'm not really against these as they are mostly fantasy designs and are unlikely to fool anyone, I'm against the ones which are forgeries of actual stamps. The ones that I hate most are the forgeries of the rare beer duty revenues from the Australian states and New Zealand, as he is flooding the market with them while genuine ones are very rare.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390758926394
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400679827305

Some of his forgeries have also been mentioned in the last two editions of Dummy Stamps:
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Well done Kevin. :)

The Brain Dead ebay Bunnies have bred up in recent years, as we can see right here and now -

http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=80966

Armies of ebay moron BAHHGIN HUNTAS bidding like mad on a million quid of material the ''seller'' does not own.

A seller with just TWO feedbacks listing up 3500 VERY rare stamps starting at just 99p. :roll: :roll:
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And thank you, Kevin.

I’m enjoying rediscovering threads I overlooked and this is pretty freaking funny.
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The Dutch seller feikpieter-0 is selling a couple of scottvisnjic fantasy stamps. One of them has already been bid up to $45 (USD):
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282944386118

He's also selling two more lots, one has a single bid at $1 and the other has no bids (starting price $10):
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282944367686
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282945774848

Note that scottvisnjic recently sold an identical '5/- Revenue' overprint for just $5.50: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401511527996

As I said back in 2014, I'm not against these fantasy stamps, but the prices some of these sell for are outrageous.
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The Dutch seller feikpieter-0 is selling a couple of scottvisnjic fantasy stamps. One of them has already been bid up to $45 (USD):
The name " feikpieter" means 'FAKE PETER' in english doesn't it ? Rather fitting really...

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