South Australia: "Squared Circle" Stamp Postmarks discussion

Philatelics (Australia) · Post by **Philatelics (Australia)** » 18 Nov 2019 23:51

Hi Asterix,

Hi, Does anyone know where I might be able to get hold of some Sheaoak Log cancelled stamps / envelopes etc? My grandmother ran the post office there until it closed so am interested for family reasons.
Thanks.

Shea Oak Log is interesting in that it had probably the last use of a Diamond Numeral cancellation, first used in the 1800's, collectors came to know of this, and arranged covers to be produced, often in the late 1960's, so I do see these from time to time, I will keep my eye open for you.

pickwickian · Post by **pickwickian** » 19 Nov 2019 07:24

Bunge here is the third partial cancel:

Having now seen it enlarged, the last three letters of the first word look like "RED".

So ......RED ADELAIDE.

Ubobo.R.O. · Post by **Ubobo.R.O.** » 19 Nov 2019 08:09

registeRED ADELAIDE

pickwickian · Post by **pickwickian** » 19 Nov 2019 08:14

Ah, thanks Ubobo, I didn’t know “registered” was ever included in post marks (as distinct from a separate sticker).

Bunge · Post by **Bunge** » 19 Nov 2019 18:28

Hi again pickwickian

Bunge wrote:
Regarding your "RES ADELAIDE" are you sure that's right ? Only thing that comes to mind without seeing the postmark is "REGISTERED ADELAIDE"

Cheers Bunge

As I mentioned in the original post, REGISTERED ADELAIDE was what came to mind, there are 3 different Squared Circle Cancels of this and a Bogus one of SC1

Your partial example is the 2nd SC cancel ~ Type SC2 - Rated C (51-99 copies considered to exist)

Here are 2 full cancels of my SC2 from 1898 & 1902

Cheers Bunge

Global Administrator · Post by **Global Administrator** » 19 Nov 2019 20:36

asterix wrote:Hi, Does anyone know where I might be able to get hold of some Sheaoak Log cancelled stamps / envelopes etc?

My grandmother ran the post office there until it closed so am interested for family reasons.

Thanks.

I sold this one to another member here recently. Very cool item.

Glen

GlenStephens wrote:

1955 South Australia Centenary 3½d green stamp FDC with "SHEA OAK LOG" cds + “26” Barred Numeral!

eharper · Post by **eharper** » 17 Dec 2019 11:26

I recently found this rather dirty stamp with a possible Le Fevre's Peninsula squared circle postmark and wondered what it's rating might be.

GraniteSA · Post by **GraniteSA** » 20 Dec 2019 11:06

eharper wrote:I recently found this rather dirty stamp with a possible Le Fevre's Peninsula squared circle postmark and wondered what it's rating might be.

12-8-1889 to 22-8-1896 2R

eharper · Post by **eharper** » 20 Dec 2019 11:25

Thanks, GraniteSA. Too bad it's not more complete.

giwigip · Post by **giwigip** » 24 Jan 2020 14:34

I was unable to guess this one from the Premier List can someone help with an ID please ?

Appears to be SE 4 17 date - any detail as to latest recorded date on KGV ?

Bunge · Post by **Bunge** » 24 Jan 2020 16:53

Bit tricky this one, have a look at Mundoora..

It's an 8 lettered word I reckon and Mundoora fits..

Type SC ~ 25mm
Known usage 26/12/1890 to 1926
Rated R

Cheers Bunge

Darkice · Post by **Darkice** » 02 Feb 2020 16:29

This was a nice little surprise in a small auction lot I have been sorting through.

Hermannsburg N.T. SC2 27mm
SE 2? 08 4R

Regards Mal.

kfmoore · Post by **kfmoore** » 22 Mar 2020 19:32

Has anybody any information on this cancel PO opened for 3 months only in 1899. Reference books say cancel not seen. http://imgur.com/HmBLEdD http://i.imgur.com/HmBLEdD.jpg

CMJ · Post by **CMJ** » 22 Mar 2020 20:44

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Global Administrator · Post by **Global Administrator** » 11 Apr 2020 19:54

Scanned this into stock today with recent colour certificate - fine strike Barred Diamond “102” of tiny Normanville, on the 1855 SG #1 1d Dark Green stamp - high rarity rated “RRR”.

That PO was not even opened until 14/8/56, and the 102 numeral was only used there for a year or so before being replaced. (Stock 685JQ)

josto · Post by **josto** » 21 Jul 2020 21:38

Hi!

I saw this postmark in this small auction lot. It is a Largs Bay squared circle dated JA 17 87, so I think it is a quite early one. Is this one rated somehow? I`ll provide a closer scan, when I have the stamp in hands, but I thought the picture might be enough to find out the type of the postmark!?

Greetings

josto

Summo · Post by **Summo** » 06 Aug 2020 00:25

Hi all, been looking through some of the Squared Circle postmarks that I have and located this one of Penong with a postmark of 24th August, 1914. Suggestion was that the SC postmark was used through to 2015 but no evidence of it. Hope this might aid research into the subject. Regards, Summo.

Bunge · Post by **Bunge** » 06 Aug 2020 00:39

Summo, that's not a Squared Circle cancel

Type C1
24mm
Known Usage - 24/?/1910 to 1969

Cheers Bunge

Summo · Post by **Summo** » 06 Aug 2020 07:55

Thanks Bunge, that explains a lot, pardon my ignorance. Regards, Summo.

Bunge · Post by **Bunge** » 06 Aug 2020 17:53

Summo, here is an entire Squared Circle cancel, you can easily see why they're called "Squared Circle"

: St Peters - 13/2/1890 - Index 2 - Squared Circle Postmark

Cheers Bunge

josto · Post by **josto** » 06 Aug 2020 21:33

josto wrote: ↑
21 Jul 2020 21:38
Hi!

I saw this postmark in this small auction lot. It is a Largs Bay squared circle dated JA 17 87, so I think it is a quite early one. Is this one rated somehow? I`ll provide a closer scan, when I have the stamp in hands, but I thought the picture might be enough to find out the type of the postmark!?

Greetings

josto

Here is a close up scan of the "Largs Bay" postmark. It case a code 2 and is dated JA 17 87. Does it have a rarity rating? Maybe someone if the experts can help?

Greetings

josto

Bunge · Post by **Bunge** » 06 Aug 2020 22:51

Hi josto, that's the 1st Squared Circle cancel, also being the 1st cancel of Largs Bay..

Type - SC1
24mm
1883 to 17/4/1894 (known usage)
Rated 3R (7 to 12 copies considered to exist)

Cheers Bunge

josto · Post by **josto** » 06 Aug 2020 23:42

Hi Bunge,

thank you very much for your fast answer! So 3R is not too bad. Will put it aside in my small stockbook with Australian States stamps.

Greetings

josto · Post by **josto** » 09 Aug 2020 01:46

Hello,

This stamp shows a handwritten cancellation Koonunga South Australia. Are such manuscript cancellations common or is this just an example, where maybe the datestamp was not readable? Any info would be great!

Greetings

Bunge · Post by **Bunge** » 09 Aug 2020 21:00

Hi josto, manuscript cancels are not all that common and there is no mention of one associated with Koonunga..

Put your question in this thread, you may have it answered by Neville the author of the books..
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=56296&start=450

Cheers Bunge

Summo · Post by **Summo** » 11 Aug 2020 22:34

Hi all, hoping that there can be some confirmation of what I believe is a SC postmark of Port Clinton. If so closed on 20/2/1986. Regards, Summo.

Lundy · Post by **Lundy** » 20 Aug 2020 07:37

Hi Summo,

Can't think what else it could be -unless the C was a G and it was Port Germein?

I have not really added to my meagre collection but i did pick these up over the weekend
The first type I assume for Mount Gambier dated MR 14 93 and a reasonable part strike of Yabmana xE x9 95 a cancel i did not have!

Lundy

Bunge · Post by **Bunge** » 27 Aug 2020 21:03

Summo wrote: ↑
11 Aug 2020 22:34
Hi all, hoping that there can be some confirmation of what I believe is a SC postmark of Port Clinton. If so closed on 20/2/1986. Regards, Summo.

Hi Summo, this is Port Germain not Port Clinton, there is a "Dot" between the S.A, Port Clinton has a "Dash" S_A

Port Germain
Type SC2
27mm
8/8/1903 to 1927
Rated C

And do us all a favour next time and post the Postmark in an upright readable position as that's what we need to see and not the stamp..

Cheers Bunge

eharper · Post by **eharper** » 02 Sep 2020 15:38

Saw this stamp and tried to use Retroreveal to figure out the cancel. It appear's to be Ford's, South Australia. Does anyone know the rarity on this? I'm afraid the picture isn't very revealing.

: Ford's, South Australia Squared Circle

Bunge · Post by **Bunge** » 02 Sep 2020 17:02

Hi eharper, yes there isn't much to see

Fords
Type SC (Squared Circle)
27mm
10/5/1901 to 1938 (Known Usage) 10th of May 1901 not the other way around as Americans write it !!
Rated 3R (7 - 12 copies considered to exist)

Cheers Bunge

eharper · Post by **eharper** » 02 Sep 2020 18:57

Thanks, Bunge. Yeah, it's hard to see but has "ords" and with the late date can't be anything else. Too bad it's not a better example but might be my only chance at one.

PhilipAdams · Post by **PhilipAdams** » 08 Sep 2020 15:55

I would value any information on this pair with a squared-circle full strike and a squared-circle part strike.

The cancel shows the post office MOOCKRA/NO2 with the number 14 (I think) and "S-A".

Thank you,

Philip

Bunge · Post by **Bunge** » 08 Sep 2020 16:14

PhilipAdams wrote: ↑
08 Sep 2020 15:55
I would value any information on this pair with a squared-circle full strike and a squared-circle part strike.

The cancel shows the post office MOOCKRA/NO2 with the number 14 (I think) and "S-A".

Thank you,

Philip

Hi Philip, nice strike

Moockra
Type SC
24mm
Index -(no index), 2
10/9/1894 to 1915 (known usage)
Rated 3R (7 to 12 copies considered considered to exist)

Cheers Bunge

PhilipAdams · Post by **PhilipAdams** » 08 Sep 2020 16:43

Many thanks Bunge.

To clarify, are there strikes without the No. 2?

Is there any significance in the "14"(?) below No. 2?

Philip

Bunge · Post by **Bunge** » 08 Sep 2020 17:08

Philip, you are reading my info wrong..

An Index Number will be above the date, yours has no Index Number, your date is NO 2 which is November the 2nd 1914, and Index Number would be above that..

In the case of Moockra, it either has - no index, or it has an index 2

I'll give you an example of one of mine - St. Peters with an Index Number 2

: St. Peters -Index 2

Cheers Bunge

PhilipAdams · Post by **PhilipAdams** » 08 Sep 2020 17:33

A second thank you for the day.

Philip

Global Administrator · Post by **Global Administrator** » 08 Sep 2020 22:34

South Australia 1904 9d Long Tom stamp, superb “BROCK’S CREEK - SA” Squared Circle cancel

Added this ripper to stock today - 653EJ. SA 1904 9d Long Tom stamp, superb “BROCK’S CREEK - SA” Squared Circle cancel

Clean FU, a fairly scarce stamp – £10=$A20 with any cancel! A GEM. Clean and fresh and attractive, fine crisp Squared Circle strike.

Glen

GraniteSA · Post by **GraniteSA** » 03 Nov 2020 17:15

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https://apf.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/SAPC-November-2020.pdf

Lot 71 Blackwood Railway

Rigs · Post by **Rigs** » 22 Nov 2020 16:57

Sorting through some state stamps today and found these - so thought they belonged here, fascinating thread! (Is the bottom right squared cancel? Any comment on them welcome ...)
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: Australia State stamps South Australia

MJ's pet · Post by **MJ's pet** » 22 Nov 2020 17:15

The squared circles on Long Stamps are rippers aren't they? Blackwood Railway sounds like a good cancel also.

Tod.Moore · Post by **Tod.Moore** » 23 Nov 2020 17:44

Like Rigs, I just found these recently and thought ‘why not’. This is such a long discussion thread, and it never lacks interest.

: Selected South Australia: ‘Squared Circle’ Stamp Postmarks

These six seem likely to be common ones. My reckoning is as follows.

1. Blinman
2. Port Adelaide
3. Kingston
4. Clare
5. Norwood
6. Naracoorte

Cheers!

GraniteSA · Post by **GraniteSA** » 23 Nov 2020 17:46

North Norwood SC1

Tod.Moore · Post by **Tod.Moore** » 23 Nov 2020 17:50

GraniteSA wrote: ↑
23 Nov 2020 17:46
North Norwood SC1

Of course - I should have spotted that there was more at the front from the position.

Rigs · Post by **Rigs** » 23 Nov 2020 20:50

Tod.Moore wrote: ↑
23 Nov 2020 17:50

GraniteSA wrote: ↑
23 Nov 2020 17:46
North Norwood SC1
Of course - I should have spotted that there was more at the front from the position.

Attractive pieces

Lundy · Post by **Lundy** » 21 Dec 2020 21:42

Hi all,

Just came across this one not in perfect condition but i think a pretty rare cancel - Pandurra

OC 8 1895 I think? It was in a collection I bought of all sorts of Australian States I had seen this and thought it was pretty scarce so fingers crossed....

: Pandurra Squared Circle postmark

Lundy

Territorian · Post by **Territorian** » 21 Dec 2020 22:48

Well done Lundy! Pandurra is one of the very rare South Australia squared circle cancels, the office only open for two years from 1895-97. The ERD is probably claimable by yourself (8.10.1895?) and the LRD is 20.10.1896. So, a great find Lundy! This one is missing from my collection at the moment too. Rated 4R in the Philatelic Society of South Australia handbooks.

Cheers,
Mike

Lundy · Post by **Lundy** » 21 Dec 2020 23:04

Yay! Thanks Mike, I didn't have it either... and took quite a big punt (as the lot it was in cost about £140) but I saw this and thought worst case this would help towards making it a reasonable buy! Lots of other cheap but useful bits as added here: https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=64669

Thanks again for confirming I have not picked up any new ones for a while so this was good news

Lundy

Territorian · Post by **Territorian** » 21 Dec 2020 23:26

I had a look of your other purchases from the same lot and I'd say that you had a great buy at ₤140 for the lot as there is also much value in some of the other numerals from NSW and Tasmania.

As for the Pandurra cancel, I would have gladly paid double plus what you paid for the lot. It is surely a 'rare beast'. Incidentally, Pandurra is a huge sheep station situated some 40km from Port Augusta, and semi-arid and harsh environment. It is not far from Iron Knob.

Lundy · Post by **Lundy** » 22 Dec 2020 00:26

Thanks Mike,

That's good to know, the Tasmania numerals on pictorials are tough.... I don't have many at all... I do need to get the SA handbooks at some point but collecting so widely (and not really selling) means I slowly add to my library of literature....

Thanks for the additional information about Pandurra as well...

Lundy

Territorian · Post by **Territorian** » 22 Dec 2020 01:11

Another good find! (no pun intended!). This time a squared cancel of 'Goode', S.A. on 1d. George V, rated 3R. The latest date recorded is November, 1916. I make this one as reading 23rd March 1917, so it is the LRD for this cancel by some 4 months.

Cheers,
Mike