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I think it is RED alright. The scanner is playing the trick. The color of the stamp is much darker than it is showing in the scans. I am using my old HP 3055 All-in-one. Tony can you suggest a good scanner for the purpose?tonymacg wrote:I think it might be SG 26 alright. The native paper often has the appearance of laid paper, from the way it was made. The European laid paper is whiter and cleaner. However, Séfi & Mortimer recorded a ½ Anna reprint in oil colour on native paper in vermilion, and your copy looks to be getting dangerously close to 'vermilion'.
This is one of my copies of SG 26:
Sorry to have to come back to you with bad news on this one, but an expert on Poonch has pointed out that this is an early forgery. Just goes to show that identifying Poonch on screen rather than in the flesh is a dangerous game.Micky wrote:Hi all, I seen this online and like to know if it is one of the real or fake uglies and worth the $13. And another thing, where on earth does it come from, it looks like something I made when I was in kindergarten.
Michael
domburd wrote:I have a handful of these documents all with a neat Khetri Post Office handstamp. Can anyone enlighten me as to what capacity the Khetri Post Office functioned under? Was there a legitimate postal system in place there? Or was it a purely fiscal and governmental exercise? Or is it all bogus?
Even experienced collectors can make mistakes when they step outside their comfort zonesmukulgarga wrote:so many Indian state lots for auction by melbournestamps today on ebay!!
Many lots I looked at, I felt, had Reprints and fakes in spite of them having being described as belonging to a experienced collector. Any comments??
winning bidder has feedback score of 1137 and specializes in India and same with the second best bidder who has a feedback score of 504. $93 for CV of 24 GBP. What do you think is going on? Shill Bidding??tonymacg wrote:Even experienced collectors can make mistakes when they step outside their comfort zonesmukulgarga wrote:so many Indian state lots for auction by melbournestamps today on ebay!!
Many lots I looked at, I felt, had Reprints and fakes in spite of them having being described as belonging to a experienced collector. Any comments??![]()
I had some, what I considered realistic, bids in on several of those lots. Didn't win a thing. I just hope that the winning bidders did make allowances for the reprints and forgeries. In other cases, such as this Jaipur lot
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340. ... 0716072195
which went for $US93 on 24 bids from seven bidders, I can only suppose at least two people have been sitting out in the Northern Hemisphere sun, without their hats on, for a bit too long
I know what you meantonymacg wrote:So they're all quite OK - in that regard, at least
This isn't the misplaced ornament error. This is SG 6eNamaste wrote:Have been idly wondering how one goes about finding postally used Dhar stamps, then along comes this on ebay:
(Image is a screenshot, so quality is a bit low)
With the help of Tonymacg's illustrated Dhar thread it looks to be a postally used 2 anna (SG6), stamp 10 in the set of 10 - the stamp with the ornamental frame error in the top left corner. I can just about see 'DHAR' on the cancel but nothing else. Any thoughts on this? It doesn't seem to share all the features of the image posted in the illustrated Dhar thread - some of the lettering is a different shape. But I don't know if that's relevant.
apart from what Tony has pointed out, the D in Dhar does not have loop at the Top Known as "Ghundi" in hindi.Namaste wrote:Have been idly wondering how one goes about finding postally used Dhar stamps, then along comes this on ebay:
(Image is a screenshot, so quality is a bit low)
With the help of Tonymacg's illustrated Dhar thread it looks to be a postally used 2 anna (SG6), stamp 10 in the set of 10 - the stamp with the ornamental frame error in the top left corner. I can just about see 'DHAR' on the cancel but nothing else. Any thoughts on this? It doesn't seem to share all the features of the image posted in the illustrated Dhar thread - some of the lettering is a different shape. But I don't know if that's relevant.
Do these philatelic covers posses any value ?tonymacg wrote:Just arrived:
Philatelic of course (unless it contained about half a house brick), but how often do you see SG 13 on cover? (There's nothing on the back.)
mukulgarga wrote:Philatelic Cover I think.
Dear Tony. Please accept my sincere greetings. Before I say anything let me just say that I have been a long time reader of your comments. Tried several times joining the board but some strange reasons my account never used to get activated. Admin has finally done it for me. Im on cloud 9tonymacg wrote:Impossible to say, really. The only certainty is that they're only worth a fraction of a proper commercial usage.
However, how many commercial usages of SG 13 have you seen - still on cover?
Dear Tony. Have been thinking of joining India Study Circle since long. ISC is regarded as the pinnacle of research in Philately. I would love to be a part of it. As my intention behind taking up Princely States against Post Independence was never just collecting them but rather to learn about that glorious time that India has seen.tonymacg wrote:Welcome to this thread, Indianchariots!
That really is a very nice cover indeed, and quite a rarity. Commercial covers with values up to the 2 Anna are relatively common, but higher values are another matter. I have one, solitary, commercial cover with an 8 Anna, and that's all. It's hard to imagine how the 1 Rupee value could ever have been needed on a letter, but if such a cover came onto the market ... Used copies of the 1 Rupee aren't hard to find, but just about all of them must have been rescued from parcels.
I can't make out the originating post office in the cancellation, and the Registration cachet seems to be just the usual type inscribed simply JAIPUR. I won't even attempt to read the address. It's well beyond my abilities with Persian![]()
If you aren't already a member, I would strongly recommend joining the India Study Circle (https://www.indiastudycircle.org/index.html). There are quite a few members interested in Jaipur, and the ISC journal, India Post, has carried many articles about different aspects of Jaipur philately. For instance, recently there was one on new discoveries in the SG 1-2 area.
Both of them are absolutely unique indeed. When Registered letter rate was 3 and a half anna's, a cover rated 10 anna's is like 3 times the basic rgtd ratetonymacg wrote:That looks like a very interesting book. As I recall, Man Singh had a distinguished parliamentary career after the abolition of the old States - unlike many of the other former rulers.
Here is the 8 Anna on cover, with a 2 Anna:
and my proudest possession from Jaipur:
SG 25ab: the imperf between vertical pair, at the end of the strip of ½ Annas
What a nice and luxurious example.jadrake wrote:My newest acquisition is this gorgeous SG 24 from Bamra:
It is from setting IB R3/3 with a 6.5mm ornament and is an ex-Dawson example. Currently the jewel of my Bamra collection (although I do have a few varieties with "Quatrer" and backwards "e")
A very nice example of the slate-blue, but what a shame some old-time collector decided to cut the extra paper off! Perhaps the stamp was a bit off-centre originally, but that's no excuse for giving it such a drastic haircut.mukulgarga wrote:My first SG45 in the company of a mysterious friend![]()
Jason, you're way ahead of me there. A superb example, and even better that it's from a famous Name collection.jadrake wrote:My newest acquisition is this gorgeous SG 24 from Bamra:
It is from setting IB R3/3 with a 6.5mm ornament and is an ex-Dawson example. Currently the jewel of my Bamra collection (although I do have a few varieties with "Quatrer" and backwards "e")
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