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anthonyuk wrote:Looking at some of these engravings gave me an idea for another thread.
Stamp image and actual image. Example:-

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What do you think?
That would be great. I started a similar thread a while back which went dormant.

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That is a beautiful stamp. If you have the rest of the set I certainly would like to see them. :)

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Thanks for showing the rest of the high values of the Arch/Leaf issue, that's what I call the art of engraving.

I spent some time looking for the hidden dates but couldn't find any but then realized these were printed by British American Bank Note and it wasn't until 1935 when Canadian Bank Note took over that hidden dates were added somewhere in the design.

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A stamp and a photo is an excellent idea and I looked for the older thread before I saw the post which gave the link.

I would put it as a seperate thread, however, so there is no need to restrict it to engraved stamps. What do Lithograving and Anthonyuk think? Here or there?
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I'm happy either way.

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anthonyuk wrote:I'm happy either way.

Me too Kevin. What I desired in the old thread was for members to post original photos they had taken of a similar subject appearing on a stamp not one downloaded from Wikipedia or some other site.

But it wasn't too successful and petered out quickly.

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Here are some more American stamps.

A fine looking Jackson from the short lived 1963 definitive set.
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Another one from the same set. Washington looks very classical here. reminds me of a Roman senator.

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Here is Jackson on his horse leading the charge. Anyone remember the movie The Buccaneer with Yul Brynner and Charlton Heston portraying Andrew Jackson ?

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The Homemakers was a combination Giori print, 3 colour engraving and one colour lithograving for the yellow background.

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The engraving keeps on happening. This one was issued in February 2010.
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Canadian Fisheries stamp. I'm a little squeamish about the seal, but it's a nice stamp.

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The Spanish Andorra is a very sharp, crisp engraving as are many similar ones from the Spanish State Printers in the last few years.

It's a complete different engraving technique compared to lets say the Canadian fisheries of 60 years ago shown below yours by uncadonego which is much softer.
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This one from Sweden came on a post card a few days ago. Again no postmark unless its that smudge on the upper left.

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Canadian Fisheries stamp. I'm a little squeamish about the seal, but it's a nice stamp.
The shrimps look just as tasty as the ones I had at the Mandarin yesterday. :lol:

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lithograving wrote:This one from Sweden came on a post card a few days ago. Again no postmark unless its that smudge on the upper left.

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Intriguing design. This one's too new for my catalogue. What do a lizard and a pig with a bag over its head have to do with the big building?
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lithograving wrote:This one from Sweden came on a post card a few days ago. Again no postmark unless its that smudge on the upper left.

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Intriguing design. This one's too new for my catalogue. What do a lizard and a pig with a bag over its head have to do with the big building?
Is that self-adhesive? I've never seen a recess printed SA.

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What do a lizard and a pig with a bag over its head have to do with the big building?
I have no idea. Maybe the guy who owned the Palace was a collector of things just like those other silly people who collect little bits of paper. :lol:

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I'm not sure Erik but it sure looks like simulated perforations, you're pretty observant.

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lithograving wrote:
What do a lizard and a pig with a bag over its head have to do with the big building?
I have no idea. Maybe the guy who owned the Palace was a collector of things just like those other silly people who collect little bits of paper. :lol:
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SG #125 - Trinidad's only commemorative.
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lithograving wrote:This one from Sweden came on a post card a few days ago. Again no postmark unless its that smudge on the upper left.

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This one is in a set of five stamps issued in January 2010 - unfortunately it slipped through my radar. I will copy the other stamps shortly and put them on this thread.

I have no idea why the borders are done in that strange way but have been trying to find out why. It is not the only one done that way. When I have finished my research I will provide details.
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The stamps are from a self-adhesive booklet. Here are the first three:
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Here are the final two, this time without strange additions:

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Swedish Post says:

One new feature of the Swedish Castles & Palaces booklet is that the five stamps are engraved and printed on self-adhesive paper. It is also the premier of an international denomination on selfadhesive stamps, a combination that has been sought after by both agents and customers.

This is an edited version of the description supplied by Swedish Post. It answers the questions asked in the posts above:

The Swedish Castles & Palaces issue is Eva Wilsson's (born 1976) third stamp issue within a period of one year.

Before she started to sketch the actual stamps, she traveled around to each castle and palace to get a feel for their atmosphere and identified a single angle of approach that she then consistently followed in all five of the pictures.

The more you observe the buildings, both from the outside and the inside, the more details you discover. "The buildings themselves are magnificent and as a contrast to this I have chosen to highlight different attributes that visually complement the buildings. On the stamp for Ulriksdal Palace you can see a little salamander crawling along the framework. It can be found on a sculpture of a wild boar by Carl Milles in the palace grounds, which is also depicted," says Eva Wilsson.

The famous rhododendrons that the crown princess Margareta brought home from England in 1907 and planted are used to complement Sofiero Palace. There are also pictures of plants - artichokes from the herb garden - on the stamp of Läckö Castle.

A painting of a soldier from the 1500s complements the picture of Vadstena Castle. "At Tjolöholm Castle there are many sculptures of animals from fairy tales. The bird I included on the stamp is located at the edge of a fireplace in one of the rooms of the castle," says Eva Wilsson.
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Thanks for that, Kevin. 8)

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Those are very nice stamps. Martin Mörck appears to have learned some of Slania's engraving techniques.

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Here are some portraying Canada Geese.

Notice also the hidden date which is easy to spot in the first one but quite well hidden in the other two.

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These two Air Mail Special Delivery stamps look exactly the same except for the rate change.
The interesting thing though is the fact that the engraver not only re-engraved the denomination but also the hidden date and changed it from 1942 to 1943.

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I bought an album of British commonwealth that arrived today. All pre 1950 so some lovely stuff.

The work in this is stunning

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Yes those are beautifully engraved stamps, nice scans Anthony.

Tell me, which scanner do you use and what settings?

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lithograving wrote:Yes those are beautifully engraved stamps, nice scans Anthony.

Tell me, which scanner do you use and what settings?
I am lucky to have picked up an Epson perfection 3490 photo at a car boot sale for 50p and they can be found reasonably priced on ebay Example here
The scan software (TWAIN) is set to pro mode to remove any automatic additions of descreening and unsharp mask etc and I scan at 1200dpi usually.
I was using an Epson 1200s which is still good but needed a SCSI card (free to anyone who wants it - just cover postage from UK).
I can take some screenshots if it would be useful to anyone but the best results come from post-processing the scans.
I only crop and straighten though so no colour changing then the important part is to use an unsharp mask which lithos respond really well too. I use Paint shop pro v8 for this. This is quite an old version but I'm familiar with it. Photoshop (elements), GIMP etc should all be similar.

It is a really nice scanner with built in lamp for transparencies which I'm trying to use for watermark detection unsuccessfully at the moment.

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Yes you really picked up a bargain for 50p, I payed a lot more for my Epson 4490 Photo a couple of years ago.

I initially bought it because I had hundreds of negatives from the fifties and sixties and wanted see what the photos looked like.

I usually scan 800dpi at Home Mode for if I set it at 1200dpi it is very very sloooow and sometimes freezes and trim by using Canon ZoomBrowser.

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Found this in some kiloware today.

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That penguin stamp is absolutely awesome.



This next stamp is not a valuable stamp, but it has a lovely peaceful farm scene which I've always loved. You can see the farmer in the pasture, in the area in front of the barn.
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Yes what is more pleasing to the eye?

This uniquely valuable stamp which in my mind is extremely uuuugly or...

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.....these cheap ones?

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agreed....

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Definately the latter.

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I thought you guys would agree. :lol:

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Me too but I can only assume the the 'ugly' man has not yet seen the challenge :lol: :lol:
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This is one of the few engraved Canadian stamps issued during the last few years.

Combination print, one colour (black) and six colour lithography.

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On the selvage is listed the printer, Canadian Bank Note, C stands for the paper manufacturer Coated Papers (TRC), six colour dots represent the 3 primary and 3 special colours and the one is for the engraving Plate # 1.

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Canada issues a $10 Whale on October 4, 2010

The printing process is four-colour lithography (all the background colours) with
one colour intaglio (black engraving), and
one colour silkscreen (gold over red $10)

The gold colour does not scan and thus is a security feature.

Size of the stamp is a whopper 128 mm x 49 mm

1,500,000 sheets of 2 were printed by Canadian Bank Note Co.

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Did you pick it up at your local Post Office today Gus?

I placed an order at the Philatelic Centre last week so I guess it should be here by the end of the week.

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Went down to Kitchener's main postal station this morning and bought a couple using one to mail a registered letter overseas . . . a true first day cover for the recipient.
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Those whales are lovely and the detail in the farm scene is very nice.
One for today.

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Wow. That looks like it would have been quite a complex engraving job. Looks like you got a bread crumb on your scanner just above the flutist's head on the left. I hope it's not damage...doesn't look like a tear or scratch, more like something on the stamp.

You know what's intersting is that ever since I started scanning stamps for this site, I've noticed things about my stamps I never saw with a linen tester. Having a dealer come over to one's house for coffee and then scanning the stamps you are interested in would be a fantastic way to buy.

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You know what's intersting is that ever since I started scanning stamps for this site, I've noticed things about my stamps I never saw with a linen tester.

You're absolutely right about that. Scanning adds a new dimension in stamp collecting.

It shows the shows the fine details but also the flaws.

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lithograving wrote:...but also the flaws.
Yep. That's the best thing about it, strategically, as far as getting the best stamp is concerned.

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Oops. It was a piece of paper from the kiloware.
Here it is again

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even more beautiful :D

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Japan has issued some very fine engraved stamps even though for the most part their stamps were printed by photogravure and lately like most countries by offset/litho.

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