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11 Aug 2020 20:04
I'm guessing it's a flip. She has been on eBay 18 years, and this doesn't seem to be the usual sort of thing she sells.
That is my guess too.

This fake pair in fact sold for $134.50 back on 26th January 2020. It was adhered to fake backing paper then, since removed. See pages 6-7 of this thread: https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=85476&start=300

This does not make it right of course. Did jessalice2 ask for a refund from the Greek Forger? Why could she (?) not automatically get a refund from Paypal?

Why does she visit her mistakes upon other trusting collectors?

This is the danger of the Greek's activites. Once these fakes escape into the wild they will keep circulating.

And the Australian Philatelic Federation (representative body of Aust. stamp collectors) and APTA do nothing to stop it of course.

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Sold by stamps_lovers101 (The Greek Forger) on 26th January 2020 for $134.50:

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Sold by jessalice2 on 11th August 2020 for $250:

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Report jessalice2 to ebay. You can still do this eventhough the lot has closed.

Use the "Report Item" buttom. Link:


https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1853-Van-Diemens-Land-4d-Orange-pair-Used-/174385804018

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This isn't the Greek Forger, but still a bad fake all the same.

This laughable, computer-printed, modern PIXELATED fake, with fake gum, is offered by Crowey46 on ebay at the moment. Equally laughable description: "Tasmania 1853-54 Courier issue, 1d, blue, mint, tanned gum, no w/m." :twisted: :twisted:

Item: 114413325739

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This supposed "mint" 1d Blue was pulled from ebay by Crowey46. Last I saw it was at around $105. "Item not available". Unclear if he sold it to the top bunny bidder or ended the sale altogether. :roll:

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Does not appear in Crowey46 sold listings, so maybe he did pull it?

Whilst looking I was as usual gobsmacked at the MORON prices the Bunnies have paid - 18 bids to take this rounded corner lumpy perf off centre Roo up to $610 -- I sell SUPERB ones for that! Ebay IDJIT BAAHRRGEEN HUNTHAAHS.


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My price on this average used grade - retail $300. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Why list fakes, when the Bunnies pay double retail for 3rd grade stamps?



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I have a screencap so it was def pulled.

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This supposed "mint" 1d Blue was pulled from ebay by Crowey46. Last I saw it was at around $105. "Item not available". Unclear if he sold it to the top bunny bidder or ended the sale altogether. :roll:
Was that created on a 9-pin dot matrix printer?
Good grief, what were the six separate bidders - four at AU$100+ - thinking... :shock:

The bidding history and "error in listing" should mean a properly cancelled sale although admittedly there's nothing to stop the seller approaching the bidders afterwards. (More fool them if they're still interested.)

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Was that created on a 9-pin dot matrix printer?
Good grief, what were the six separate bidders - four at AU$100+ - thinking... :shock:

The bidding history and "error in listing" should mean a properly cancelled sale although admittedly there's nothing to stop the seller approaching the bidders afterwards. (More fool them if they're still interested.)


There are various ways it could be created. It looks like a reproduction from an old illustrated album and scanned and reprinted in colour. Whether Crowey created it or found it in junk, I don't know, but he did list it.

(It could be "A Greek Production" too).

Amazing that there were 4 bidders but not surprising. The problem with ebay is that there is an army of born yesterday bargain hunters than have never seen an original, never owned an auction catalogue or book or never been to a stamp club or show to see the real thing.

Nothing to stop the seller approaching the bidders afterwards as you say.
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Does not appear in Crowey46 sold listings, so maybe he did pull it?

Whilst looking I was as usual gobsmacked at the MORON prices the Bunnies have paid - 18 bids to take this rounded corner lumpy perf off centre Roo up to $610 -- I sell SUPERB ones for that! Ebay IDJIT BAAHRRGEEN HUNTHAAHS.

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"BAAHRRGEEN HUNTHAAHS" is not the Queens English. Practise what you preach, you angry little man.


?? What is going on here ??

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The Greek Forger has in recent times begun selling his Tasmanian product <cof> as "reproductions" or "forgeries", although not marked on the back as such as per Ebay rules.

He is evidently finding this lucrative enough.

Here is some of his latest trash - $45 per set with 4 sets available (and the rest :lol: :lol: :lol: ):

Ebay Item #: 313248093583
Seller: starcollectables
Decsription: Tasmania 1855-1857 Van Diemens Land Reproduction Set, MUH.
Link: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Tasmania-1855-1857-Van-Diemens-L ... 3248093583

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Another Greek Forger / starcollectables product fresh of the laser printer. Same bleed through of cancellation made yesterday:

Ebay item #: 313247757481
Seller: starcollectables
Description: Tasmania 1853 1d Blue Courier Imperf Forgery.
Link: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Tasmania-1853-1d-Blue-Courier-Imperf-Forgery/313247757481

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With the plethora of posts on forgeries and fakes being put up for sale on eBay, it simply makes me wonder if there are any honest sellers on eBay and is it even worth looking on eBay for stamps? It seems to have become a pirates nest.
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There's plenty of honest sellers on ebay and a few shonky crooks, but anyone who gets caught buying this rubbish deserves to be had for not "knowing their stuff" or even doing some basic research. Sorry, that's harsh but just the truth. Their not buying a $2 item, they are paying good money and should have known better.

The only problem I see is that someone may be buying a stamp as a gift for someone else and falls for the fake, not knowing any better. But I would imagine that the "gift buyer" of stamps is a rare occurrence.

The main problem is that ebay simply do absolutely nothing about it, after all these years, after all these reports - they can't just get rid of bad/dodgy/fake sellers. And its about time some countries government took matters out of their hands and applied penalties for allowing them to continue. The best they do is get the item taken down, but not the seller.

I would prefer that any seller have to prove their identity before being allowed to sell or at a certain point continue to sell, and therefore if banned, cannot apply again. As it is you can be anyone, with whatever name you choose this week and they can manipulate the feedback to always look good.

The next phase of modern internet based buying and social media changes will be the more open identity proof to stop the forgers and trolls that have taken over like a plague of vile parasites living off the misery of others. No one, anywhere would put up with any of this rubbish if it were done in person or in a shop.
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There may be 100,000s of sellers on Ebay, listing multi millions of stamps. There are sure to be some dishonest sellers but the majority are honest. Chats like this one only tells about the bad ones.

There are some members here who have grudges against Ebay as they may have been banned and cannot use it and some who see it as competition for their sales.

Stampboards do a good job in warning about bad sellers,

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With the plethora of posts on forgeries and fakes being put up for sale on eBay, it simply makes me wonder if there are any honest sellers on eBay and is it even worth looking on eBay for stamps? It seems to have become a pirates nest.

It has been a pirate's nest and cess pit for MANY years. :idea:

Every conman, spiv and shonk on the planet is on there, peddling junk like the above to the Bunnies.

As Allanswood says, these brainless cretin buyers deserve to be conned, but ebay do little to stop it

Of course there are kosher sellers, and there of course is some kosher stuff, there has to be from millions of items, and for cheapie things to complete sets etc, or obscure topicals etc, it is near impossible to beat.

But for imperf states worth $100s each - Caveat Emptor. None of these crooks are there next year when you find your BAHHRGEEEEN is a dud, and you try and contact billybob28586874725 - they are long gone with your dough, and the account is closed, and NOTHING you can do about it :idea: :idea: :roll:
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THE MOST DANGEROUS FORGERY YET


The Greek Forger has now topped himself, producing the most dangerous forgery yet of the Tasmania 1d Blue imperforate. The colour is very good, this will fool a lot of people. Come off a modern laser printer though. Sad fake cancel though. And fake gum painted on the back.

Offered on ebay using his "mothership" crime alias antiquesunlimited111_1

ebay item number: 303719770895
Seller: antiquesunlimited111_1
Closes: 10 Oct, 2020 20:15:46 AEDST
Description: TASMANIA 1853 1d blue used courier imperf
Link: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TASMANIA-1853-1d-blue-used-courier-imperf/303719770895



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Fake Tasmania 1d Blue offered on ebay by antiquesunlimited111_1


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Fake Tasmania 1d Blue offered on ebay by antiquesunlimited111_1



The Greek Foger has also had a change of modus operandi:-

Do very short term listings to get "an Offer", and hope that no one notices. This one closes in 8 hours on a Saturday night. The weekend is his favourite time to list fake Aust Colonies imperfs to rake in cash.

The starting "bid" is "only" $50 <cof> but he is really hoping to get an offer of $$hundreds$$

He is now refusing to accept Paypal - in clear breach of ebay rules saying it must be offered as a payment alternative. He is getting BURNED by Paypal refunds for sure.

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The Greek Forger now refuses to accept Paypal - another violation of ebay rules



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Sold for 127,5A$ :shock: with no chance of getting your money back ? It sure is a real bargain...

Anyway, it’s quite a well thought method : your victim is unaware/clueless, the stamp is relatively cheap so you will not spend an expert fee to look at it.

Seriously, as an amateur, i wonder if I can ever bid on ebay for something worth more than 20$

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Yes $127.50, with 7 bids.

Only 3 unique "bidders" - who were no doubt shilled by the Greek Forger himself.

If stupid bidder pays by bank deposit as requested, how are they going to get their money back? This whole thing screams fraud with flashing lights and sirens.

Bidder: [at bank teller's desk] Can you tell me the name and address of this bank account holder please? I think I may have been the victim of a fraud.
Bank Teller: p*ss off.
Greek Forger: :lol: :lol:



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It is not against eBay rules to refuse paypal. Depends on your seller status.

Why anyone would trust you is a whole other ballgame.
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Or, according to the younger generation, "a whole nother ballgame". ;)

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It is not against eBay rules to refuse paypal. Depends on your seller status.


Can you post anything specially on that? Has something changed? It used to be the case that PayPal had to at least be in the payment options offered as a minimum.

Over a decade ago ebay tried to enforce Paypal as the only acceptable payment medium. They got their head punched in of course, but got around it by making it conditional that Paypal be offered as a payment option, which could not be unoffered.

How does allowing a seller to block Paypal payments facilitate ebay "buyer protection"?

How could The Greek have a high enough seller status for that anyway?


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THE MOST DANGEROUS FORGERY YET


People reading this thread will know The Greek Forger "sold" one of his Fake Tasmania 1d Blue "productions" on ebay for $127.50 about one week ago. See above for pics and screencaps.

The same fake as now reappeared - as Buy It Now for $275.

The Greek Forger has now topped himself, producing the most dangerous forgery yet of the Tasmania 1d Blue imperforate. The colour is very good, this will fool a lot of people. Come off a modern laser printer though. Sad fake cancel though. And fake gum painted on the back.

Offered on ebay using his "mothership" crime alias antiquesunlimited111_1

ebay item number: 303728030539
Seller: antiquesunlimited111_1
Listed: 17 October 2020
Description: TASMANIA 1853 1d blue used courier imperf
Link: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TASMANIA-1853-1d-blue-used-courier-imperf-fine-used/303728030539



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Fake Tasmania 1d Blue offered on ebay by antiquesunlimited111_1


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Fake Tasmania 1d Blue offered on ebay by antiquesunlimited111_1



The Greek Forger has also had a change of modus operandi:-

Do very short term listings to get "an Offer", and hope that no one notices. This one closes in 8 hours on a Saturday night. The weekend is his favourite time to list fake Aust Colonies imperfs to rake in cash.

He is now refusing to accept Paypal - in clear breach of ebay rules saying it must be offered as a payment alternative. He is getting BURNED by Paypal refunds for sure.

His listings also say in the fine print: "Not eligible for eBay purchase protection programs".

You would have to be INSANE to by from his guy.

He is also adding his email address to listings, hoping bunny buyers will contact and pay him direct by bank deposit = no refund possible. "You can contact me direct on ...." Another violation of ebay rules. The ebay algorithm has deleted the email address, this time.

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The Greek Forger now solicits direct contact from buyers - another violation of ebay rules



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So to recap, there are three very clear ebay rule breaches:

1. selling forgeries unmarked
2. refusing Paypal
3. soliciting direct with ebay customers

Report antiquesunlimited111_1 to ebay using the report button!

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Yet again a dodgy dealer in fakes and forgeries, selling to mugs on Ebay. Why am I in total astonishment - NOT.

There really must be a reason why I refuse to purchase anything off Ebay!

If no-one bought anything until Ebay sorted out the crooks, they would go broke.

A fool and his money are soon parted.
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Well that is clearly not going to happen is it! These fraudsters need taking out that is for sure but what you seem to have forgotten is the millions and millions of successful transactions that take place on eBay every day.

As usual, the bad eggs get highlighted (rightly in this case) but you if refuse to buy on eBay because of these very small percentage of bad people, you are missing out on so much that could be added to your collection. Not a sensible approach in my opinion (unless all your purchases are >£1000).
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I know of at least two FIP Gold Medal exhibits where the majority of the material has been acquired from Ebay.

There is nothing wrong with any of the material they purchased, just astute buying,

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Yet again a dodgy dealer in fakes and forgeries, selling to mugs on Ebay. Why am I in total astonishment - NOT.

There really must be a reason why I refuse to purchase anything off Ebay!

If no-one bought anything until Ebay sorted out the crooks, they would go broke.

A fool and his money are soon parted.

Ebay stamp division is reported to be their WORST performing section.

Why? As they no longer remove these overt sellers of stamp fakes.

List up a fake Rolex, fake Gucci, fake Dior and it is removed in hours and the seller banned. HOW it should be.

Millions of stamp buyers steer clear of eBay as it has attracted 1000s of spiv sellers - witness the many 100s of them that members have highlighted here alone - it is a HUGE list -

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Global Administrator wrote:
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Waffle wrote:
17 Oct 2020 14:56
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Yet again a dodgy dealer in fakes and forgeries, selling to mugs on Ebay. Why am I in total astonishment - NOT.

There really must be a reason why I refuse to purchase anything off Ebay!

If no-one bought anything until Ebay sorted out the crooks, they would go broke.

A fool and his money are soon parted.

Ebay stamp division is reported to be their WORST performing section.

Why? As they no longer remove these overt sellers of stamp fakes.

List up a fake Rolex, fake Gucci, fake Dior and it is removed in hours and the seller banned. HOW it should be.

Millions of stamp buyers steer clear of eBay as it has attracted 1000s of spiv sellers - witness the many 100s of them that members have highlighted here alone - it is a HUGE list -

https://www.stampboards.com/viewforum.php?f=21
Some rather outlandish statements there! ‘Millions of stamp buyers steer clear of eBay’
Where did that come from??? If you take China out of the equation I doubt very much there are these millions of stamp collectors around the world who regularly buy or sell. If there were, traditional selling avenues (eg shops) would still be around to cater for those ‘haters’ of eBay.

eBay is THE best venue for the average collector to buy and sell stamps, there is no larger world wide selling venue. No individual dealer can offer the range of stock the average spending collector (ie £1-500) collects, and no individual dealer can offer the low prices this lower priced stuff is available for.

For higher priced items, then clearly there is more risk but if you’re sensible it is easy to avoid the fraudsters. Many well known dealers, with good reputations, trade on eBay selling high priced items so there is plenty of better stuff on there that can be safely bought. If people are daft enough to spend £100s on stamps known to be at risk of forging, without taking necessary steps to check the items real status, then really they deserve what they end up with. What’s that old saying ‘some people have more money than sense!’

One of my collecting areas is GB Queen Victoria postal history. Take the 1881 2.5d blue plates 21-23. I can get covers with this stamp on on eBay for around £5 (and that includes lots from well known dealers trading on ebay). You look in other venues (at certain dealer price lists particularly) and these covers are priced at £20+. This is one example, of which there are many, of where eBay is the cheapest for buyers.

I get for some dealers eBay isn’t great for them trade wise as they would rather take the £20+ of ‘the bunnies,’ for that cover I mentioned, who don’t use ebay. Those are the people I think are getting ripped off. eBay has so much potential for collectors that those who dismiss it as all bad are the ones ultimately missing out. I say to them stay off eBay, it means there is less competition for good items so I pay cheaper prices. Maybe I’m a ‘bunny’ for doing that, you decide 🤪🤪🤪

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The Greek Forger's Fake Tasmania 1d Blue sold this morning 18 October 2020 at 9.33 am for AUD $275.

Real Value = $0.00.

A lot of money for something straight off a computer printer. :roll: :roll:



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Global Administrator wrote:
17 Oct 2020 22:32
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A fool and his money are soon parted.
Ebay stamp division is reported to be their WORST performing section.

Why? As they no longer remove these overt sellers of stamp fakes.

List up a fake Rolex, fake Gucci, fake Dior and it is removed in hours and the seller banned. HOW it should be.


Exactly. Easy to remove sellers of fake. If ebay had the will to.

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eBay is THE best venue for the average collector to buy and sell stamps


You have to be joking.

But then again, your spending limit is about $10. ("I can get covers with this stamp on on eBay for around £5"). So ebay probably suits you fine.

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MJ's pet wrote:
18 Oct 2020 11:20
Global Administrator wrote:
17 Oct 2020 22:32
Waffle wrote:
17 Oct 2020 14:56
A fool and his money are soon parted.
Ebay stamp division is reported to be their WORST performing section.

Why? As they no longer remove these overt sellers of stamp fakes.

List up a fake Rolex, fake Gucci, fake Dior and it is removed in hours and the seller banned. HOW it should be.


Exactly. Easy to remove sellers of fake. If ebay had the will to.

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eBay is THE best venue for the average collector to buy and sell stamps


You have to be joking.

But then again, your spending limit is about $10. ("I can get covers with this stamp on on eBay for around £5"). So ebay probably suits you fine.
Joking??? Ok you name a better place where you can buy and sell such a range of stamps for such good prices. You won’t be able to but you just keep eBay hating, I’m sure the many millions of pounds the stamp department still brings in to eBay each year (even if they worst performing department - where did this information even come from) will comfort their directors.

And as for saying my spending limit is £5, where did I say that? I gave an example of a purchase an average collector could do in one of my particular collecting areas. Maybe you’re not an expert on GB postal history and assume £5 is the going rate for every QV issue but I haven’t built up a collection of over 3000 GB QV covers covering every value issued up to 2/- by paying £5 for each one. Up to £500 is more realistic thank you.

Equally, a sideline collection I have is QV covers paying the 6d rate to Australia from the UK. I am trying to get a cover to every large town in Australia. I so far have 37 different destinations in OZ and eBay has been my primary source for these. Dealers do sell them but the prices are ridiculously high for what are fairly common covers. eBay is much preferable.

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Spot on. There is no changing the anti eBay brigade on this site though.

The rest of us with enjoy the eBay search.

A lot more interesting and rewarding than the recent over priced material shown on virtual Stampex, but each to their own.

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Spot on. There is no changing the anti eBay brigade on this site though.

The rest of us with enjoy the eBay search.

A lot more interesting and rewarding than the recent over priced material shown on virtual Stampex, but each to their own.
So true!!! I got disillusioned with going to stamp shows years ago because of the ridiculous prices charged. I know the dealers need to make a living but too many are rip off merchants for common goods. eBay has made it easy to compare market prices and highlights the significant difference between dealer and eBay prices.

I understand the reason to highlight fraudsters like that in this thread, and stamp boards has done a huge amount of good in getting fake goods taking down, but my issue is that any new collectors starting out would just see posts like this or the other ‘eBay dreamer’ thread and think that everything on eBay is bad and not to be trusted. That is just simply not the case as I would bet that 99.999% of eBay transactions are fine yet this 0.001% is constantly highlighted as proving eBay is unsafe.

I wish it was feasible to start a general ‘great eBay buys’ (not the personal thread already existing but one showing random sold items in a searched for area) thread but because of the huge number of great buys, this thread would become impossibly long and would always be at the top of this particular board area. I just wish certain people would accept the truth about eBay and not keep trying to scare people off it. That is a complete disservice to our responsibilities towards new collectors who should be encouraged to use eBay (with appropriate care) to build their collections.

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MJ's pet wrote:
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The Greek Forger's Fake Tasmania 1d Blue sold this morning 18 October 2020 at 9.33 am for AUD $275.

Real Value = $0.00.

A lot of money for something straight off a computer printer. :roll: :roll:



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Yes Insane - but insisting on bank payments and running Private Auctions would scarce off even the dumbest Bunnies so could well be shill bidding?
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I would guess shill bidding, and it's quite possible that he "sold" one to himself (using two accounts) to establish a fake price history.

He'll "return" it later or otherwise claim the buyer didn't want it to get the fee back.

That way, he lists a similar one for a bit less, someone does a search, sees the old listing, and says "Wow, this one for $200 is a good deal! One sold last month for $275."

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Glen wrote:insisting on bank payments and running Private Auctions would scarce off even the dumbest Bunnies


You would think so. Even then thickest bunnies love Paypal because they can do a charge back, like a credit card if something goes wrong.

My radar tells me The Greek is getting heavily burned by charge-backs and in desperation has resorted to "bank deposit only".

Talk about flashing red warning lights and screaming sirens.

The Greek loves bidding on his own items using his multiple beard accounts to establish a false "sale history". So hard to tell if he has hooked a bunny or not.

All we can do is draw attention to his activities. Some potential buyers do learn via Google and this thread. And ask for refunds.

Keep making reports on his items!

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You could, MJ, use the a new complaint avenue with eBay.

Direct your complaint and research to PTS. Their new strategic alignment with eBay gives them far higher access to senior eBay management than the rest of us oiks.

Obviously not appropriate for 1 off issues, but your thread suggests this person is a serial offender.

I would be very surprised if this type of matter wasn’t discussed between PTS and eBay when the logo use was negotiated

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The PTS - now this is interesting. :idea: :idea:

The Greek has peddled $100,000s (millions?) worth of fakes into the Australian philatelic market through ebay. This takes money out of the mouths of real dealers and defrauds real collectors.

Could never understand why the APF and APTA are so disinterested.

Ideally a dealer member should make the referral. Would have more clout. Maybe Glen can think about this.

What you really want is a situation where ebay cancel any new Greek account upon notification from the PTS.

Lots of people here over the years have done really good work in ID'ing these fakes. It should not go to waste. I have listed the Tasmanian fakes he has put on ebay over the last few years, but not all of them. And it is only the tip of the fake iceberg obviously.

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Far more direct .... the ASDA USA pioneered with ebay the listing of ASDA logos, on ebay listings.

Report it to them, and they certainly have a direct contact with the head eBay stamp honcho in the USA. THERE is where accounts get cancelled at a keyboard stroke. Not in Mumbai.

Send them a list of the fake IDs this spiv uses, and some relevant examples, and they'll all be closed in hours most likely. Refusing to accept PayPal is likely a hanging offence to an American based ebay rep too.

As can be seen the ASDA logo is used on all listings by members - very prominent - Michael Eastick I read was on the ASDA American Committee? He certainly had many dodgy local ebay accounts of this Greek crook when he was APTA President here via his contacts with local ebay, before he resigned.

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He also likes to sell South Australian "departmentals" and I presume his are all bad?

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He also likes to sell South Australian "departmentals" and I presume his are all bad?


Yes. It goes without saying, they are all fake.

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ebayer - I like the way you are thinking on this. Presumably a report from an ASDA member will achieve more results?

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Send them a list of the fake IDs this spiv uses, and some relevant examples, and they'll all be closed in hours most likely. Refusing to accept PayPal is likely a hanging offence to an American based ebay rep too.
I've been reporting them for fakes, ongoing, with the usual relatively low success rate. Your point about them now refusing to accept PayPal is a good one!
[edit]As they only sell within Australia, that is a big no-no per eBay.com.au's payment methods policy

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