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Buying India States on ebay from developing countries - wise?

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Hi there, I have a general question that I will give a specific example for.

I am looking to fill out my Bhor state collection (shouldn't take too long!) and am looking at ebay for options. I came across this:


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I am not knowledgeable enough to differentiate fakes from real, especially with such variable stamps as some feudatory state issues.

My question is about origin: this dealer is located in India. I see other dealers, for other stamps, in the Ukraine.

Given that income is low in these distant countries and the policing systems probably have more important issues to deal with given their resources, am I right to be cautious and avoid these dealers, OR does the buyer-driven "policing" system on ebay weed out the bad apples?

Thank you for your thoughts!
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I'm not an expert on Indian stamps at all, but one always has to be very careful with any seller on eBay, regardless of their country of origin (though reading some threads on these boards, there are places where you are really rolling the dice). Usually, but not always, it's a good sign if they have a large amount of feedback and it's close to 100% positive, but that's only a first step in checking if an item might be legit.

Hopefully someone on here will be able to help verify the lot you're looking at, but in general my rule of thumb is that if something seems too good to be true, it almost certainly is!
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I feel your concern!

There is an item on offer (not on ebay) I would like from a dealer in Mauritania(!) but I'm not brave enough to trust things.

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While I understand the worry and cannot give any assurances, I would just want to remind that India is the place where the Indian native state stamps were used. As they were not valid for mailing outside of that state (with some exceptions), the items that have not entered into philatelic trade, mostly remained in India. That means that besides of fakes, there are likely to be genuine ones offered from India.

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I guess research is key on the seller alphaomegaphilately

Kindly check this blog where the blogger claims this item sold by alphaomegaphilately is mix of bogus and forgery

http://gandhistampsclub.blogspot.com/2018/11/indian-philately-postal-history-india.html

Another website claims another handle from this seller - alphaomegaphilately2 , selling modern fakes too

http://golowesstamps.com/reference/formatprinters/Modern%20F ... stamps.htm

This does not mean sales from developing countries are doggy...it may be the seller

This seller could be sitting in developed country too.
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Indian collector wrote:
12 Jun 2021 17:25

I am not knowledgeable enough to differentiate fakes from real, especially with such variable stamps as some feudatory state issues.

These are heavily faked, everyone knows that, so why buy them off ebay? Welcome to eBunnyVille. :roll:

Any ebay buyer with BRAINS (there are some!) googles the seller first - alphaomegaphilately - clearly you did not bother, and this seller alphaomegaphilately is reported as selling fakes, so why ask us?

Learn about your subject a little first (there is a novel idea) and/or ask the EXPERTS here whether the Bunny Bait offering is a genuine stamp, before you line their pockets.

Good grief.

The $10 piece this may well be OK, but these spivs offer things for $100s as well.
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In general, a buyer is protected by eBay’s policy on items arriving not as described or not arriving at all.

As regards the OP’s query, this Bhor stamp is unquestionably genuine.

I agree that some of alphaomegaphilately,s listings have been less than accurate and have included fakes and forgeries, but others have been ok. I have bought from them in the past.

As regards purchasing from some countries, I have had no problem with sellers in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Ukraine.

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Doing your homework is important when specialising. Especially Indian States where forgeries are plentiful. Join a relevant philatelic society. You'll make good contacts. Preferably a society that publishes regularly with an accessible archive of past publications. The archives are treasure trove of information.

I specialise in three closely related areas of the Middle East. I developed contacts through doing business with Israeli dealers. I owe those dealers and contacts alot for what I have learned. I buy specialised books too.

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