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I would be interested to hear about
people experiences bidding with Sandafayre?
Is it possible to get any kind of bargain?
Is it my imagination or are starting bids
quite high :?:

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Like Status etc, this is essentially a retail price list, with most material owned in house.

When the lot does not sell (which is a large % of the time), it is re-cycled by the computer for the next sale being worked on.

The starting price is precisely what they are asking for it .. anyone generous enough to pay them MORE than that - they accept your generous "tip" with grateful thanks.

And then have the cheek to add 15% 'Buyer Fee' onto your invoice!

I wish my clients did that. So does WalMart, Harvey Norman and Harrods, but for some odd reason only stamp collectors often engage in that weird practice, with some sellers.

I have this listed for sale right now at $250 ... however all offers of $300 are GRATEFULLY accepted! And I promise not to add another 15% on top. :)

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But Glen.......as someone with impeccable taste, you must first put it into a glossy catalogue for me........with a description that will make absolutely no sense to anyone who reads it ...... beginning collector or advanced philatelist!!!

My fondest memory of Sandafayre is the very first catalogue I received and spending hours going through each item, wondering what on earth they were trying to say - 16 lines of text that say absolutely nothing about the stamps in the lot!

In fairness, I have over the years received some very interesting items from them. I would say that it was a screwed up lotter who let things through, not that I got a bargain in what I thought I was bidding on. They're big, they're busy and they miss stuff.

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Silly over-priced material. I've put in bids at 70% of estimate and still win. :shock:

And being a mail-bid sale, not a public auction with a floor sale, they can fudge the numbers if they want. Using Glen's example of the 10/, if the est is 250, and you bid 300, and there are no other bidders, the 'auction' house could if they wanted to invoice you at a 'hammer' of 300.

Tricky? Yes. Dishonest, really? Yes. Tempting? Yes.

Once you're on the mailing list awhile and you collect just one area, you'll see the same items pop up again like old friends (or in the case of overpriced tat, a chronic disease).
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Many true comments above, but the bottom line is I've had some fantastic buys from them when buying collections/mixed lots.
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The Pom wrote:Many true comments above, but the bottom line is I've had some fantastic buys from them when buying collections/mixed lots.
With the volume they process, they probably operate similar to RubyStamps, hiring a bunch of students or people who don't know a whole lot about stamps to write up the descriptions. Given some of the descriptions their catalogues contain, I'd say they were hiring people doing a creative writing course by correspondence. :roll:

Buying collections gives the chance at a good find as Sandafayre, and probably a lot of places, treat such material the way Glen does a 'junk box': scan through stuff to get a 'sense' what is there and stick a price on it. Isn't that how/why the Jimmy wmk variety and rare Papua cancel were found, overlooked by a seller not giving a lot the long attention the final owner-collector will.

Harder to get a bargain on a collection lot at a public auction, as the pre-sale viewing has given a lot of eyes the chance to pore over the pages.

So its a bit of cavaet emptor when dealing with mail bid sales. Leave the over-priced clearly illustrated singles to the Bunnies who are reading the catalogue while on a break from buying UM earlies on eBay. :lol:
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I've seen some shockingly overpriced Indian States items in Sandafayre auctions, and optimistically misidentified items (Jammu & Kashmir being a particular favourite), and yes, the same old same old reappearing again and again.

I've had one or two very expensive mixed lots from them. I've also bought a couple of Bhopal sheets at bargain prices - I suppose because the other specialists have given up looking at Sandafayre, and their describers just didn't realize what they had.

I've probably come out just about all square in my purchases from Sandafayre over the years, taking the good with the bad. Still, you want to come out ahead, not all square, in buying at auction, don't you?
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Is it possible to get any kind of bargain?
bargains? yes if your knowledge is greater than theirs, and if you follow Athelwulf and bid below est.
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Since returning to stamp collecting a year ago, I have bid on many lots from Sandafayre. In most cases, bidding below estimate and still winning. Bargain? (At 86% of estimate including the 15%) maybe... The good exchange rate from £ to AU$ has also helped.

A few short-description British Commonwealth cartons were full of interesting stamps, and the research of these led me here to Stampboards.

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My experience has been that I have only won lots for below their estimate when I have bid beneath it.

I concur with the other comments, having had some pleasing buys from them and possibly paid a bit too much on other occasions.

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Thanks for the interesting comments.

At first I found the Sandafayre catalogs
a bit addictive. Chock full of every kind
of BC (and other) items one could imagine.
They are masters of every (vague) superlative
for describing the stock. But the estimates
are quite high and one is not allowed to bid
very far under the estimates--unless the rules
have changed.

Finally I won a nice Austr. States collection.
It was no bargain even at their estimated
catalogue value. I did a quick check of the
better items upon receipt--most misidentified
making a non-bargain into a full cat purchase.
I will say that they did not quibble about the
return but I was out ~~$20post+insurance.
:( :shock:

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The Pom wrote:Many true comments above, but the bottom line is I've had some fantastic buys from them when buying collections/mixed lots.
Absolutely.
I've bought last year a very nice collection of German postal history from WWII, maybe a bit overpriced but incredibly difficult to assemble anyway. After days of sorting I've found that some covers were really worth the whole lot.

It's just the kind of website you should avoid after some beers.

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Regarding Sandafayre ....

I have "won" several British Commonwealth lots/collections of Sandafayre's over the years. With one exception I was disappointed with, what l feel, was the overly generous description given. Seems they really talk up the junk, to simplify things.

For that reason alone I would not use them again, although l did find some sleepers in the collections which ALMOST made up for overpaying for the lot.

Just my humble opinion,

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I have a peek at the monthly online auction via their email. For my particular interest, they list the same type of stuff each month.

Some of the questionable quality lots are invariably pumped up in both description and price; some ridiculously.

As for the 'featured video lots'; I wish they wouldn't bother. It's a bit like watching those eejits on Youtube showing you how to load batteries into a camera.

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Many moons ago they had a shop in Knutsford and there stuff highly priced then,they also used to sell on eBay.

I vaguely remember seeing advert in Stamp Magazine asking for describer.

Don't think they issue price realizations either and as someone say before there stuff comes up time and time again.
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If you must buy their over-priced, often inadequately described items, then take the lower end of their 'estimate' and times it by 0.8 (80%).

This is their minimum acceptance 'bid'. Then decide if you want to pay an extra 15% for it. Be prepared for a higher-than-necessary postage/packing charge.

In my area of collecting, they let forgeries through as the genuine item. This may be ignorance on their part, so don't assume they are impeccable in their classification.
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Note: buyers premium now increased to 17%.

Seems wholly unjustifiable for what is essentially a retail operation masquerading as an auction.

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I purchased one lot from them. It was expensive, however, it was of some material that I had never seen before, so I bid and won.

I've never seen anything like it again since. So I feel good about my purchase. Because now I own it and nobody else does!

(It was a specialty cinderella collection of a single Albanian set)

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Easier to re-kindle an old thread to refresh you about Sandafayre, before telling you about an upcoming lot in their auction this Saturday.

Sandafayre have several different formats of online auction: Kwik- Bid, Hunters and Cheshire Stamp Auctions.

Cheshire Stamp Auctions have a sale, nuber 8324 this Saturday (11th September, 10am BST), which can be viewed via their website (sandafayre,com), easyliveauction.com or Stamp Auction Network (probably others, too).

Its usually cheapest to bid on their website, and the images are better quality (but remember that they disappear soon after the auction, whereas on the other access routes they remain in archive, albeit at a lower resolution).

This imminent sale appears to be disposing of some fairly interesting Australia lots. (I say that, but don't collect Australia, so I'm basing it on some of the threads I've read on Stampboards).

Specifically, look at lot 158, a mixed lot with thirty images - here are three of them ....

CSA_8324_lot_158.jpg
CSA_8324_lot_158_parcels.jpg
CSA_8324_lot_158_flag.jpg

https://www.sandafayre.com/auction/lot//?lot=4586719

If Aus is "your thing" (and "you can find other customers for the bits you don't want"),
then this lot (or one of the 30 or so others) might be worth perusal.

Its well written up, so even if "you only want to download the hi-res jpegs for your reference files" a trip to their website (for the highest quality) ... or even an email to them requesting higher quality images ... you've only got a couple of days to act.

I only chanced upon it whilst looking for images of SG456a Prussian (lot 630) - I am neither bidding on any lots in this sale, or affiliated with them in any way.

Just a heads up .... "this looks interesting" ... I thought :D
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But do remember that all those 10-year-old warnings still apply.

Over described lots are common and they are almost always at the top of the market (or beyond) with their estimates at least in those areas in which I have knowledge.

They still have stamps not regularly seen in other auctions, though, so I do find myself drawn to their weekly catalogues. The staff are very friendly and helpful and photocopies are speedily provided. I make the occasional bid and have returned a few lots without a quibble on their part.

Just be careful, heed the warnings and they could be another occasional source of suitable material.

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I have bought several classic commonwealth items from Sandafayre, sometimes at a big chunk off their lower estimate. If you're not too bothered if you get outbid, try a bid at around 70% of the lower estimate and it will sometimes succeed.

To be fair to them, I recently questioned their description of a Cape triangle which was listed as a rare shade but on receipt looked to me like plain ol' deep blue. They agreed to cover the cost of a certificate, if I sent it for expertising and the RPS agreed with my opinion. RPS duly agreed with me, and Sandafayre paid me back the full cost of the item + commission, AND the full cost of the RPS certificate including postage, AND (although I had not asked for it) the full cost of the Special Delivery postage label on the envelope I sent it back in. That is first-class customer service, and gives me the confidence to bid in the future on items which might look a bit questionable.

I should add that I have no connection with the company,

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Sandafayre do not publish any kind of Prices Realised list AFAIK which is telling. :idea:

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MJ's pet wrote:
19 Sep 2021 12:08
Sandafayre do not publish any kind of Prices Realised list AFAIK which is telling. :idea:
Oh yes they do.....

https://www.sandafayre.com/csa-results

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Note: buyers premium now increased to 17%.

Seems wholly unjustifiable for what is essentially a retail operation masquerading as an auction.

More like 20% now I think.

For selling their own material retail!

I BEG all clients to add 20% to their payments to me for buying MY material, and oddly, not one ever has! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I bought a cracker of an item at their first 'live' sale a week gone Saturday. Interestingly bidding was extremely keen on most items although there seemed to be one bidder at the front of the room bidding on most items. The lot I bought is probably unique and although correctly described as far as it went it did not add the 'telling' information that the item (a NWPI 4th setting Die 2 ABC strip) was only possible in two positions in plate 1 and that to find a used strip is unheard of.

Abacus and others in Australia pitch the strip mint to sell at over $A1000 and they come up for auction occasionally. I managed to obtain it for £200 and it is an absolute bargain at the price. When it arrived it had a hinge remainder on the top stamp and was MNH for the two stamps below indicating its CTO status. Again it is most unusual to see CTO'd
NWPI stamps with full gum.

The ex Arthur Gray 10/- Type A specimen block of four sold for £3750 (to Australia) against an estimate of £1-£2K before premium with a catalogue value in BW of £A10,000. Given that it is probably the only block with left hand marginal selvedge it is the most desirable of the four known blocks.

You may complain about the 20% buyers premium but as they don't charge VAT it evens out!

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If the buyer was local as you say he will be up for 10% GST Tax upon arrival.

So 3750 quid plus 20%, plus 10% GST = near enough $10,000.

Paying full ACSC ($10,000 for HINGED) for a NO GUM block, might seem like a real bargain to you, but I would wildly disagree. But I know little about the Kangaroo market. :lol: :lol:

All that Holbeach material was handed to an Auction here all stuck together in an envelope. Lots of 1913 Specimen blocks. They tried to tease out a few but not a big success. So many have (undescribed) thins, and issues, staining, creases, and parts of design missing etc. And all NO GUM. Big bargain. :lol:
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I didn't think the 10/- Specimen block was a bargain. I thought it had been 'dry-cleaned' and it is not my collecting area anyway. I added that as a postscript to my own experience which was good. The £3750 was way over what the item was worth and the lower estimate of £1000 that Sandafayre put on it was about right.

I put in a bid for slightly more than the lower estimate on behalf of someone in Australia but wasn't going to bid any more than that.

The much better Australia Specimen material was in a concurrent Swiss auction.

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ps On your advice I have been collecting mint blocks of four of Kangaroos wherever I can see them!

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Derbyboi2 wrote:
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ps On your advice I have been collecting mint blocks of four of Kangaroos wherever I can see them!

Well you are halfway in the right direction. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Attractive pre-War Postally USED blocks 4 is the dynamite area here. Scanned this up tonight - the scarce 1915 Emergency second watermark.

Show me another for sale GLOBALLY at ANY price. :)

ANYTHING in that category from a popular country is the area to look out for IMHO. :!:


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Glen

Surely if BW list used blocks of 4 they will also have to list mint?

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Glen

Surely if BW list used blocks of 4 they will also have to list mint?

Robert

Of course not. Non imprint/Monogram Mint blocks are ho-hum.

And plate and imprint blocks 4 have been listed here for 100 years.

Most USED blocks are scarce, and many are truly RARE. You could spend all day, and phone EVERY dealer in the book, and ask if they have for instance, a 1923 6d Roo postally used block in stock, at ANY price, even $150, and the answer will be “NO”. Ask them if they have a single used 5/- Harbour Bridge, and they ALL have one of those at $275 or so! Join up the dots. One is TRULY scarce, and the other is not! :mrgreen:

When the ACSC finally prices them in used BLOCKS, as they are in the Europe catalogues, the prices will go insane, as very few exist of these.

Many major European basic catalogues as a matter of course, list stamps mint, used, FDC, on cover and in USED blocks of 4. Look at a Swiss/Liechtenstein Zumstein catalogue, or the leading Italian or Scandinavian catalogues etc, and you will rapidly see what I mean. 8)

Even the Stanley Gibbons Specialised catalogues for GB, list and price near all pre-war issues from 1840, in used blocks of 4. So it can be done here, and it SHOULD be done here.

Stamps worth peanuts as singles, are often worth a FORTUNE in a postally used block, in many European markets. Swiss stamps issued in the Kangaroo era can catalogue 500 times as much in a used block, as for a used single.

The 1914 3Fr Jungfrau is in the basic Zumstein catalogue I have, listed at 3,250 SFr a used block, but only 8 SFr for a used single. Many Kangaroos should rate similar high multiples like that in blocks. But right now they sell in blocks for 5 or 10 times a single stamp! :idea:

The same rarity level applies in some Australian stamps of course. But NOT the prices - YET. The market leading Facit catalogue does the same for Sweden and Scandinavia area stamps, and has done for 100+ years.

In a recent Facit catalogue, the common old cheapie Sweden 1858 12 öre blue Arms (Facit #9) is priced at “x 500” for a block of four. That stamp is 18 SEK for the cheapest shade for a used single, but 9,000 SEK for a used block of four of the cheapest shade. :mrgreen:

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The block shown above from a Feldman's Sweden auction demonstrates the market nicely, that stampboards member Scott Starling showed me.

It is a rather ugly block of the 3öre brown Lion issue of 1863, Facit Catalogue # 14Bc1 (Scott # 13). As a single this has a 2010 Facit catalogue value of SEK130 - about $A20.

It is a common shade, and a single with this same centering and cancel would sell for about $A10, Scott tells me. Facit doesn't list a price for a used block of four, it just says that there are three known.

The starting price was 2,000 Euro (not Swiss Francs) and sold for 5,000 Euros, when the nasty 'Buyer Fee' was added.

That was $A8,600 paid then for a VERY rough looking block, of a stamp otherwise worth $10 a single.

Buy such things issued by Australia now.

It is certainly true that virtually EVERY Australia stamp from 1913 to the present date EXISTS in postally used blocks – even for the high values.
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W5LDY wrote:
20 Sep 2021 00:42
MJ's pet wrote:
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Sandafayre do not publish any kind of Prices Realised list AFAIK which is telling. :idea:
Oh yes they do.....

https://www.sandafayre.com/csa-results


OK. Thanks. I did not realise. Still can't see any link to the Prices Realised navigating around their website though. Seems to be the PR from the most recent auction only which soon disappears and not archived??

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The block shown above from a Feldman's Sweden auction demonstrates the market nicely, that stampboards member Scott Starling showed me.

It is a rather ugly block of the 3öre brown Lion issue of 1863, Facit Catalogue # 14Bc1 (Scott # 13). As a single this has a 2010 Facit catalogue value of SEK130 - about $A20.

It is a common shade, and a single with this same centering and cancel would sell for about $A10, Scott tells me. Facit doesn't list a price for a used block of four, it just says that there are three known.

The starting price was 2,000 Euro (not Swiss Francs) and sold for 5,000 Euros, when the nasty 'Buyer Fee' was added.

That was $A8,600 paid then for a VERY rough looking block, of a stamp otherwise worth $10 a single.

Buy such things issued by Australia now.

It is certainly true that virtually EVERY Australia stamp from 1913 to the present date EXISTS in postally used blocks – even for the high values.
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Lest anybody with a block of four is a member here, I'll expand on the Facit listing.

The stamp exists perforated with a "perforator from years 1855, 1865 or 1872".

The listing of only 3 known is for perforator 1855.

But for blocks perforated with a later perforator the entry shows a price of 80 x a single, for which prices are between 130-275 SEK..

The stamp (Type II) wasn't issued issued until 1863 but with printings through to 1873. Of type I issued 1862 there is no used block of four known.
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