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I have been offered a small collection of covers, mainly from South Africa, SWA and Rhodesia but also a few from China, France, etc/ I have no idea of the value. Any opinions?
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What would you pay for this 2/- Brown?

Third watermark, lightly hinged, with variety 1L50 "Colour flaw off WA coast" CV A$900.

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The Pom wrote:What would you pay for this 2/- Brown?

Third watermark, lightly hinged, with variety 1L50 "Colour flaw off WA coast" CV A$900.

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Is that mark in top margin at right a flaw in stamp or something else?

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It's just a speck on the scanner. No flaw there on the stamp.
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Thanks The Pom. Always on the lookout for additional markings on listed flaws.

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Hi all, a couple should I buy it covers, I have had these on watch from a international site.

For $20Au, I am not up to date on the Air mail tags used, I have not seen this one before
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For $10Au, tabs still attached.
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Never bought the above two, so how about this one?

Cannon Street Station. Continental Night Mail duplex. Used from 30 May 1881 to 14 Aug 1896. No code. Rarity E. Price £150.

Unfortunately this it's not a full duplex by any means, and the stamp must be around the $60 to $80 if I have read it correctly for white paper. The seller is asking $80.

Is this one pretty much on the nose with the asking price, I am not sure if it is white paper or harder to get bluish paper? Looking now it may be damaged behind the hinge as I look at the top of the Queens head :?

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For starters, Micky, this common stamp ought to be catalogued closer to £15 than £150.

In that very average condition, a AU$3-5 stamp in this opinion. But then I'm tough on ordinary stamps.

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Really? only few dollars, I must of checked the wrong information a couple times on the stamp and postmark.

Maybe I need to take up another hobby I really have no idea on anything.

Thank you Rod for saving my wallet.

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Micky wrote:Really? only few dollars, I must of checked the wrong information a couple times on the stamp and postmark.

Maybe I need to take up another hobby I really have no idea on anything.

Thank you Rod for saving my wallet.
You've shown promise elsewhere on this Board, Micky.

We're all on a learning curve, perpetually.

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Thanks Rod. :D

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I agree with Rod. A relatively common stamp in that condition, a cursory check on eBay should throw up dozens of examples for a few quid / bucks. :idea:

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A part cancel (of a very common cancel anyway) on a violet stamp, with evident foxing.

$80 is Full Blown, Gold Plated, ebay Bunny ''Lifetime Member'' territory really. Agree a few bucks is about right.

But anyone suggesting this is BLUED paper from those scans is made for eBay!

If you actually seek that cancel for some reason, 5 quid gets a FAR better strike here -

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/G-B-1883-QVI-2-d-lilac-used-with-cds ... 2692745882
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It IS ebay of course, so the seller cheerfully does not mention the huge patched up tear. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Thank you all, I don't look at eBay for stamps, only use it for selling stamps myself or buying other items.

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Famous Company Disney.

Checking the online help, I discovered that Disney started filming Swiss Family Robinson at the location of Blue Haven, Tobago.

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Sorry for scan, it's not mine but I bought it at the high value of $1. Would this have any value even though it's past the Should I buy it part :lol:

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Very old rule of thumb -
1) Do I want it?.
2) Can I afford it?.
If the answer to either is no, then keep your money in your bank account.
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These two covers are on offer from a seller with 100% 18660 rating.

I'm just struggling with the Aachen cancels as they don't appear normal. They appear to have been applied with a rubber cancel rather than metal judging by the distortion. They are both dated the same send and receive dates.

What are peoples thoughts please?

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Folks when posting ebay links NOTHING past the 12 numeral lot number is needed - the original links above, made the page a metre wide until I edited them down!

They do look like ''zinco'' style fakes to me at least, but Reg'd label looks kosher, so why would anyone fake them? Not my area, but even the backstamps do not look like crisp German steel cds
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As Maxwell Smart often said:

"Sorry about that Chief"

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Germany-1948-Registered-Cover-to ... 3177908486

This is another cover, same send date again!
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Hmm... those cancellations don't look right to me either, but it's fair to say that there was surprising levels of variation in these, so I'm not ruling it out completely.

Almost everything else looks pretty good, including the seals... but not quite satisfying. It appears that the cancellations are over the 'Durch Eilboten' but under the 'V' label (I think?), and that is also slightly puzzling. You'd expect the labels to be applied at the same time, but I can't swear to that.

The crayon lines are beneath all the stamps and labels. Usually, I believe, the crayon was applied at the PO, and should be on top of everything else; I've often seen stamps with the line going across them, and covers with the line over the 'registered' labels.

All in all, I'm sceptical about this one! If it's a forgery, why did they do it? Possibly honing their skills, or treating it as a creative challenge...

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If you google the sender Hans Bellefontaine, he was from Aachen, and connected with the world of stamps, so the sort of person who might be in the business of creating philatelic frankings adorned with various labels.

Though, of course, the sender's hand stamp could also be faked....
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Thank you both for the feedback.

Acutipuerilis, I hadn't noticed the crayon under the stamps. I was so focused on the quality (or lack of) of the cancels. Also the fact that the they all had the same date makes me think a cancel has been manufactured.

The Pom, I hadn't followed up the sender so thank you.
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A question that comes to my mind, probably because of lack of my knowledge about that period of mail in Germany: most stamps used on the covers, I think, are from East Germany, Aachen is in West Germany close to the Dutch border and Baden-Baden is in the southern half of West Germany. Was it allowed to send mail with East German stamps inside West Germany according tho the regulations at that time?
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jkrabbenbos wrote:A question that comes to my mind, probably because of lack of my knowledge about that period of mail in Germany: most stamps used on the covers, I think, are from East Germany, Aachen is in West Germany close to the Dutch border and Baden-Baden is in the southern half of West Germany. Was it allowed to send mail with East German stamps inside West Germany according tho the regulations at that time?
No, these are "Trizone" stamps valid in the American, British and Soviet Zones. The Leipzig Fair issues can be confusing since similar ones continued to be issued by the Soviet Zone after the June '48 currency reforms.

As far as the authenticity of the covers is concerned they are obviously "philatelic" in any case- anything could have happened!

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[quote="mbg1248"]I have been offered a small collection of covers, mainly from South Africa, SWA and Rhodesia but also a few from China, France, etc/ I have no idea of the value. Any opinions?
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Hi, I am thinking about the purchase of the following stamp, A 1913 1d Red Die II Australian Roo with Double "Small Punch OS". He is asking $450AU for the stamp.

According to the ACS Catalogue these are all considered to be fake, but to my eyes it does look OK???

The seller is located in the US and I have dealt with him for more than 10 years and in the past have purchased some rare items that after getting a certificate have turned out to be genuine. The reason I say this is that he has an uncanny knack of finding nice items.

Item appears to be unused hinged with No gum. Perfs aren't great and there is rust showing through from the back.

Look forward to your valued opinions.

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Don't know too much about the value of double punch OS, but for 450 bux with rust and pulled perfs doesn't seem particularly desirable?

Personally I don't let rusted stamps through the front door if I can help it.

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Hi, I am thinking about the purchase of the following stamp, A 1913 1d Red Die II Australian Roo with Double "Small Punch OS". He is asking $450AU for the stamp.

According to the ACS Catalogue these are all considered to be fake, but to my eyes it does look OK???

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The quote highlighted above is all you need to consider. That's the trouble with OS perfins, a lot of the forgeries look pretty good.

The re-sale value would be about $5 as a curio, so factor that in. Plus you have the poisoning effect of having that stamp in your collection. And I don't just mean the rust. When a dealer casts their eye over a collection to come up with an offer price, an obvious forgery is a red flag that says that there may well be a few other "landmines" lurking and the price is adjusted accordingly.

It will devalue your entire collection.


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Anyone with even the most basic understanding of official OS perfins realises the punctures were set up in a Forme of 30 or 60 metal pin arrangements. So 30 stamps etc all were punctured in one operation.

This totally doubled perfin simply is not possible to occur.

There is a debated large OS 1d strip where the perfins were in similar positions to the original punch. The jury is still out on that.
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TonyL wrote:
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According to the ACS Catalogue these are all considered to be fake, but to my eyes it does look OK???
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It is your $450 .. go for it. Who cares what the ACSC says - it is only money after all!

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To elaborate on Scott's point, if a collection has forgeries off to the side (or on a separate page) of the main collection and marked as such, the message is the collector has done some reasonably deep research on those stamps and is a point in favor of the collection.

If they are mixed in at random with the real stamps, that gives the opposite message, that the collector didn't know what he was doing and couldn't ID the fakes as such.

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erich wrote:
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To elaborate on Scott's point, if a collection has forgeries off to the side (or on a separate page) of the main collection and marked as such, the message is the collector has done some reasonably deep research on those stamps and is a point in favor of the collection. If they are mixed in at random with the real stamps, that gives the opposite message, that the collector didn't know what he was doing and couldn't ID the fakes as such.
Yes, Erich is of course completely correct, I should have been a bit more nuanced.

Identified forgeries do have a place in a collection, as reference material and an indicator of a deeper level of research. I'm not sure of the rules about including them in an exhibit (as id'ed forgeries)?

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The seller is located in the US and I have dealt with him for more than 10 years and in the past have purchased some rare items that after getting a certificate have turned out to be genuine. The reason I say this is that he has an uncanny knack of finding nice items.
If it's a fake, might be a good idea to check some of those 'rarities' you have been buying from him over the last 10 years?

Certificates from whom?

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TonyL wrote:
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he has an uncanny knack of finding nice items.
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I bet he does. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Does he have any Solid Gold genuine Rolexes for sale cheap? I have a Thai source for these he can access.

Please let him know about my IMPERF 1d Roos offer .. I might have my first outlet! He certainly has the client base already. :lol: :lol:
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Global Administrator wrote:
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TonyL wrote:
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he has an uncanny knack of finding nice items.
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I bet he does. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Does he have any Solid Gold genuine Rolexes for sale cheap? I have a Thai source for these he can access.

Please let him know about my IMPERF 1d Roos offer .. I might have my first outlet! He certainly has the client base already. :lol: :lol:
Glen...What a surprise that you would respond in this manner. :roll:

You constantly put people down that you have never met or have any idea who they are.....That is going to catch up with you one day. :lol: :lol:

Thank you all for your help in this....As I have stated before I am no expert and that is why I appreciate all opinions....WELL NEARLY ALL. :lol: :lol:

Kind Regards, Tony.

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TonyL wrote:
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That is going to catch up with you one day. :lol: :lol:

Well after 40 years dealing full time, and publicly exposing 100s if not 1000s of stamp cons and spivs, it has not yet.

We have had a few 100 ebay accounts totally closed down by our detective efforts here alone, to help protect cashed up but totally clueless Bunnies from themselves.

But you are correct Tony, one day it might. I might be struck down by lightning, or locust plague, or Beri Beri etc, all invoked by the stamp fakers and shonks on the planet.

I do not have to "meet" this spiv to form my opinion - I see what he offers to folks like you, and I know only too well what the other "BARRGGHIN" stuff will be like you doubtless are too embarrassed to share here now!

In the meantime, we persevere here, to protect a LOT of folks from squandering their hard earned money on stamp landfill. Folks just like you Tony, from buying this absurd $450 fake, that you were totally convinced was kosher, and this is the ever thankful response. :roll:

Staring above is a stamp expertiser, and he tells you it is worth $5 as a curio.

In life, some folks appreciate FREE wise advice, that saves them getting conned, and some do not. It takes all types in life, it really does. :!: :!: :!:

Stick with your bottomless USA source of ebay BUNNY BAHHHRRGGRGINS .. just never sell your collection to me please. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Woefully off centre, (a good thing) heavily cancelled but I like it.

3rd watermark 10 shilling Kangaroo perf OS. Offered for the princely sum of £20 posted.

Scarce commercial useage. There is a reason I think it is genuine. Can you pick it?

Should I buy it. I already have a couple in the rubble here.

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Woefully off centre, (a good thing) heavily cancelled but I like it.

3rd watermark 10 shilling Kangaroo perf OS. Offered for the princely sum of £20 posted.

Scarce commercial useage. There is a reason I think it is genuine. Can you pick it?

Should I buy it. I already have a couple in the rubble here.
For $40 bucks I would!!( bottle of red)! CV is $500 as long as it has NO thins or tears :D
Badly centered as usual for OS perfs sign of being genuine along with the OS not completely punctured out
are also good indicators. Nobody would forge this stamp anyway because there is no premium on it!!
Price for used is the same price as unpunctured :lol: :lol:

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traralgon3844 wrote:
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Scarce commercial useage. There is a reason I think it is genuine. I already have a couple in the rubble here.
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Re: The "Should I Buy It?" Thread

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There is another one available at the moment. A few short perfs and probable small crease, but better centered.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264775797554

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Re: The "Should I Buy It?" Thread

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Hi am interested in purchasing this stamp.

Second watermark 1/2d green KGV 14.25 line Perf. They are asking $107US ($155AU) + postage.

I am at work today, so no access to ACSC. Is this the "Thin fraction" variety. (I think that is what it's called) :oops:

The "One" in the right value tablet appears to be thinner than the left, but without the Catalogue I am not sure if this is the correct variety.
half d KGV.JPG

I used MS Paint to measure thickness here.
half d KGV-x.jpg
half d KGV-bk.JPG
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Re: The "Should I Buy It?" Thread

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Hi Tony, until the experts answer here is an image of a thin fraction from another of our threads. The 1 looks much thinner to me:
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Looks like the one on eBay needs to lose some weight... :lol:

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Re: The "Should I Buy It?" Thread

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Philexx wrote:
11 Jul 2020 18:25
Hi Tony, until the experts answer here is an image of a thin fraction from another of our threads. The 1 looks much thinner to me:
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Thanks Philexx, certainly looks much thinner.

Cheers for the image.

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Re: The "Should I Buy It?" Thread

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erich wrote:
11 Jul 2020 18:29
Looks like the one on eBay needs to lose some weight... :lol:
You might be right about the weight erich, but not the seller. :o :lol: :lol:

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Hello,

the July 1915 date and the perforation itself tell us, that this KGV 1/2d green has to be a common per. 14 comb. example, and the date also tells us, that it is definitely NOT the "thin fraction" variety, which is from Electro 5 and this electro paired with electro 4 were first printed from April 1916! Sorry, but I wouldn`t buy this one and the seller should be corrected, if he really thinks it is a single-line perf. stamp or a "thin fraction" (by the way, these two varieties can`t exist on one stamp!).

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Re: The "Should I Buy It?" Thread

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josto wrote:
11 Jul 2020 18:52
Hello,

the July 1915 date and the perforation itself tell us, that this KGV 1/2d green has to be a common per. 14 comb. example, and the date also tells us, that it is definitely NOT the "thin fraction" variety, which is from Electro 5 and this electro paired with electro 4 were first printed from April 1916! Sorry, but I wouldn`t buy this one and the seller should be corrected, if he really thinks it is a single-line perf. stamp or a "thin fraction" (by the way, these two varieties can`t exist on one stamp!).

Best wishes

josto
Thanks Josto for your insight on the said stamp.

I will pass on the information above to him so he can correct the listing price and description.

Just to be clear the dealer did not mention the "thin fraction" only that it was a 14.25 Line Perf. I asked because it looked as it was thin and the price was high for it just being a common stamp.

Anyway I will pass on info.

Thanks Again,

TonyL.

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Quite how the seller has got the idea that it's a line perf, I'm not sure.....I can only hope that they are not a professional dealer!

Please feel free to direct them to my guide to identifying these stamps:

https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=12505
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