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Four of the stamps are the rare sideways version, whilst 6 are the very rare (on Ebay) sideways inverted stamps.

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No further bids in the last few hours. Maybe they'd sobered up....
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phrag99 wrote:Four of the stamps are the rare sideways version, whilst 6 are the very rare (on Ebay) sideways inverted stamps.

Ah that's what it is! :lol:
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Not Ebay, But this one surely wins a prize...you are even going to make a profit with this one !

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It's got the MEASLES
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someone is going to pay $50.00 for a dose of measles !
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Mark wrote:Not Ebay, But this one surely wins a prize...you are even going to make a profit with this one !

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Here is a link
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=844349872

Hilarious, that would be the most toned 1935 cover I have ever seen, in that condition I wouldsay its worth under $5. Toning for me typically drops the price by 50% for one spot down to 90% for average toning, extreme toning like this would be 95% less and since when has it been worth $400.

But this FDC issue was NZ first OFFICIAL one by the Post Office and they did use that horribly cheap greasy paper, so few have survived unscathed.

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Going by this bunnies logic, mine must be worth around $397 each of the $400? :lol:

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Fake cover already at 24.50 USD and still 4 days to go.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PRC-COVER-WITH-PAIRS-OF-5-7-ORIGINAL-P-/221681083924

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(stamps does not exists imperforated)

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Fake cover sold to the bunny with deep pockets for $338.33
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http://www.ebay.fr/itm/SUPERBE-et-RARE-NAPOLEON-N-18-1F-Carm ... 43d8d7683b

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1000$ for a forgery, probably shill bidding under that but still insane :D
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Private ePay bids are a sure sign of dubious intent …

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gugusg wrote:http://www.ebay.fr/itm/SUPERBE-et-RARE-NAPOLEON-N-18-1F-Carm ... 43d8d7683b

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1000$ for a forgery, probably shill bidding under that but still insane :D

Insane is the word.

If the 7, yes count them 7, bids retracted within 30 seconds are not clear indications of shill bidding, then the greatest group of undecided people gathered to bid on this «stamp».

Read the title as deceptive as can be while almost true. «Almost», as a Fournier forgery does not have a high catalogue value. However, the seller does not quantify the so-called «FORTE COTE». A no gum genuine stamp catalogues 4000€, an official reprint catalogues only 2400€ and is much more beautiful than this dog.

The seller is a pro and he gives his business address. If I were him, I'd be afraid someone with a gun coming to claim a refund.

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gugusg wrote:http://www.ebay.fr/itm/SUPERBE-et-RARE-NAPOLEON-N-18-1F-Carm ... 43d8d7683b

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1000$ for a forgery, probably shill bidding under that but still insane :D
He he, I can beat you! Here some bidders bought a complete worthless pair of fake letters (with fake stamps) for amazing 2024.- USD!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1962-CHINA-2-COVERS-WITH-IMPERF-8-ST ... 1312059702

Here the scans of the fake letters:
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How do you know that both, stamp & cover, are fake ?

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amprantino wrote:How do you know that both, stamp & cover, are fake ?
Hope you were not the buyer...

This forgery is easy to recognize. First of all it has just the wrong dimensions, the coarse and rough print of the cover is worst, not to compare to a genuine cover. The cancels are an imitation and the stamps are forgeries (the photo of the forgery is very unclear, but you can get a feeling just compare the stamp colors).

Maybe this scans help to see:
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There is always an idiot in every village, US$2,024.00 flushed down the toilet; didn't the buyer see the warning sign flashing - eBay.
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Rob1956 wrote:Image

Fake cover sold to the bunny with deep pockets for $338.33
https://www.ebay.com/itm/PRC-COVER-WITH-PAIRS-OF-5-7-ORIGINAL ... 33a0096761

Ha ha ... the letter is back! :D

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gugusg wrote:http://www.ebay.fr/itm/SUPERBE-et-RARE-NAPOLEON-N-18-1F-Carm ... 43d8d7683b

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1000$ for a forgery, probably shill bidding under that but still insane :D
Total garbage. He sold this for over € 1,000, and now he is selling the identical copy!

Unbelievable. He should be stopped.

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$26 flushed down the toilet.
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$105.50 Apr 01, 2015

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LB71502-Sharjah-fish-shell-coral-sea ... 1514943205


... a couple comparable Sharjah flower souvenir sheets went over $200


Not as dramatic as many entries on this thread, but I was impressed.

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China_LA wrote:
Rob1956 wrote:Image

Fake cover sold to the bunny with deep pockets for $338.33
https://www.ebay.com/itm/PRC-COVER-WITH-PAIRS-OF-5-7-ORIGINAL ... 33a0096761

Ha ha ... the letter is back! :D
...and sold again for $159+ plus $31 shipping to someone with 2,000+ feedback. Unbelievable.

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$105.50 Apr 01, 2015

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LB71502-Sharjah-fish-shell-coral-sea ... 1514943205




... a couple comparable Sharjah flower souvenir sheets went over $200


Not as dramatic as many entries on this thread, but I was impressed.
If that was in a dealers box at a £1 i'd give it a miss, suspecting usual wallpaper rubbish.
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I had a quick look round to see if I could find any other examples of that Sharjah fish MS, just to see what it's really worth.

Couldn't find one in mint condition. Plenty of CTO for next to nothing, but no mint that I could see, so maybe it's quite scarce as such.

All the same, $100+!
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The Pom wrote:Couldn't find one in mint condition. Plenty of CTO for next to nothing, but no mint that I could see, so maybe it's quite scarce as such.
Apparently that's the way Trucial States material goes--CTOs by the truckload, but not a lot of Mint. And used on cover about as common as moon rocks. :lol:

$100 does seem high...maybe we've all developed such a firm mindset of "Sand Dunes = worthless" that we don't realize there's diamonds in the rough.
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aethelwulf wrote: $100 does seem high...
maybe not for an Arabian sheikh. :wink:

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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/nystamps-Luxembourg-Stamp-151-Mint-OG-H-1100-/381221144406

Oh dear.

The bidders on this lot are going to get this:

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When they think they're buying one of these (SG MS221, CV £1,700):

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US$218 with 10 minutes to go.

I advised the seller yesterday. Keep an eye out for feedback.
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Finished at US$326.

Are people blind?
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The Pom wrote:Are people blind?
What is the difference between the two? Other than the apparent stains / rust on the Ebay item, I do not see anything.

Is it that little "something" under the "10"?

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julesjelev wrote:
The Pom wrote:Are people blind?
What is the difference between the two? Other than the apparent stains / rust on the Ebay item, I do not see anything.

Is it that little "something" under the "10"?
On the back someone wrote 'VALS'. That's Dutch for FAKE.

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figmente wrote:Another went for 16.50 one week later.

Another week and its down to 8.50.
Whoever rushed in at $100+ will feel foolish...assuming they see the prices that subsequent examples fetch.
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julesjelev wrote:Is it that little "something" under the "10"?
Not sure, but possibly that 'little something under 10' is FAUX (fake, in French), so this is just a facsimile.

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/PRC-china-stamps-lot-rare-set-collec ... 7675.l2557

This China lot was sold for US$260. :?

Or am I missing something? Is there a valuable $1000+ stamp in there?

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Once again a world class eBay cheater "kilowareman" successful sold a bad forgery:

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But this time low profit for him, just US $1,150.00.

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China_LA wrote: But this time low profit for him, just US $1,150.00.
There's one born every minute.

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That PRC stamp is terrible! The Bunny bidders don't need anyone to scam them, they do such a good job of willingly throwing away their money.

This lot sold yesterday for 179 EUR.
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The seller's entire batch of offerings (a couple dozen lots) was of fakes, all stated to be so in the titles, and some of examples were so ridiculously appalling.

Maybe there's some 'good' fakes in the lot, ie. by Fournier etc, that are collected in their own right?
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Sammlung geerbt, glaube aber nicht dass die Marken echt sind. Verkaufe sie daher als Fake!

Rough Translation: However, collection inherited, does not believe that the brands(stamps) are real. If it sells, therefore, as a Fake!
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Rob1956 wrote:Sammlung geerbt, glaube aber nicht dass die Marken echt sind. Verkaufe sie daher als Fake!

Rough Translation: However, collection inherited, does not believe that the brands(stamps) are real. If it sells, therefore, as a Fake!
Ahoj Rob!

Sammlung geerbt, glaube aber nicht dass die Marken echt sind. Verkaufe sie daher als Fake!

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Ahoj again!

I don't usually take an interest in this sort of thing, but I looked at the bidding on this lot out of one-off curiosity and I found Member Id: s***m, who caused the sudden big increase during the bidding, to have a 93% bidding history with the seller. ermmm?

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Thanks honza for the correction, my rough translation was rougher than I thought.
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This lot was bid up to AUD76, which is about AUD60 too much. Crazy. Seller is OK, has nearly 5,000 feedback, and listed this starting at a reasonable $5.95. But buyer o***t really wanted these stamps.

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aethelwulf wrote:That PRC stamp is terrible! The Bunny bidders don't need anyone to scam them, they do such a good job of willingly throwing away their money.

This lot sold yesterday for 179 EUR.
Australien - Queensland - Tasmanien - Süd- u. Westaustralien - Sammlung- Fake
The seller's entire batch of offerings (a couple dozen lots) was of fakes, all stated to be so in the titles, and some of examples were so ridiculously appalling.

Maybe there's some 'good' fakes in the lot, ie. by Fournier etc, that are collected in their own right?
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The printing method of most of the stamps seems to be lower quality typo. But the 6 pence south Australia and the black swan look "not so bad".

Not hard to explains,

A bidder with 3127 transactions, most likely, a seller. I am about 95% sure that all of these stamps will be re-offered in separate lots titled as, "Vintage Album Pages From Old Collections, Jumbo Catalogue Value, Gems inside", €179x3 more to make. More crazy bidders are ready to take them over.

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fromdownunder wrote:This lot was bid up to AUD76, which is about AUD60 too much. Crazy. Seller is OK, has nearly 5,000 feedback, and listed this starting at a reasonable $5.95. But buyer o***t really wanted these stamps.

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I agree not sure why it would go to A$76 for the stamps pictured, but the title and description was a bit vague "Sydney Harbour Bridge set of 3", surely any "set" should include the 5/-, what was sold was 3 stamps from the set.
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manfaefife wrote: I agree not sure why it would go to A$76 for the stamps pictured, but the title and description was a bit vague "Sydney Harbour Bridge set of 3", surely any "set" should include the 5/-, what was sold was 3 stamps from the set.
Well, technically it was a set of three. Perhaps not what you or I would expect but it was a set of three. And they all show the bridge and all seem genuine. :lol:

I think you'll find the wild price was because it included the rare mint 'slightly different colour 2d' variety :lol: :lol:

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julesjelev wrote:
The Pom wrote:Are people blind?
What is the difference between the two? Other than the apparent stains / rust on the Ebay item, I do not see anything.

Is it that little "something" under the "10"?

Blowing that up, it looks very much like 'FAUX'.
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Re: Mad bidders on worthless eBay lots

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Machaggis52 wrote:
julesjelev wrote:
The Pom wrote:Are people blind?
What is the difference between the two? Other than the apparent stains / rust on the Ebay item, I do not see anything.

Is it that little "something" under the "10"?

Blowing that up, it looks very much like 'FAUX'.
Machaggis you have come to this rather late my friend! For those confused like me, the above conversation refers to the LUXEMBOURG Minisheet a dozen or more posts above FAUX as Indicated by Camelspotter ............ back in APRIL !
whatever it is -------it's better than a poke in eye with a wet umbrella !

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Re: Mad bidders on worthless eBay lots

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What on earth is going on here? Some middling Falklands, worth £1-£2, bid up to £33!!?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stamps-from-the-Falkland-Islands-/111821112416

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Re: Mad bidders on worthless eBay lots

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Oh dear.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LUXEMBOURG-1923-10FR-GREEN-MNH-MINI-SHEET-/151884815317

Modern copy, which even has "FAUX" (French for "False" or "Fake") written on it (below the 10).

Seventeen bids, £164 final price.

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I've been in touch with the seller, who is 100% straight, and alarmed that he missed something so obvious - the item is being pulled from sale.
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Re: Mad bidders on worthless eBay lots

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As I had experienced at rare times that there are honest eBay sellers.
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