Mad bidders on worthless eBay stamp lots

phrag99 · Post by **phrag99** » 05 Jan 2015 04:40

Four of the stamps are the rare sideways version, whilst 6 are the very rare (on Ebay) sideways inverted stamps.

The Pom · Post by **The Pom** » 05 Jan 2015 05:25

No further bids in the last few hours. Maybe they'd sobered up....

Philexx · Post by **Philexx** » 05 Jan 2015 06:26

phrag99 wrote:Four of the stamps are the rare sideways version, whilst 6 are the very rare (on Ebay) sideways inverted stamps.

Ah that's what it is!

Mark · Post by **Mark** » 11 Feb 2015 07:03

Not Ebay, But this one surely wins a prize...you are even going to make a profit with this one !

Here is a link
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=844349872

ddaann · Post by **ddaann** » 11 Feb 2015 07:34

It's got the MEASLES

Mark · Post by **Mark** » 11 Feb 2015 09:06

someone is going to pay $50.00 for a dose of measles !

Princestamps · Post by **Princestamps** » 12 Feb 2015 08:22

Mark wrote:Not Ebay, But this one surely wins a prize...you are even going to make a profit with this one !

Here is a link
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=844349872

Hilarious, that would be the most toned 1935 cover I have ever seen, in that condition I wouldsay its worth under $5. Toning for me typically drops the price by 50% for one spot down to 90% for average toning, extreme toning like this would be 95% less and since when has it been worth $400.

But this FDC issue was NZ first OFFICIAL one by the Post Office and they did use that horribly cheap greasy paper, so few have survived unscathed.

Going by this bunnies logic, mine must be worth around $397 each of the $400?

China_LA · Post by **China_LA** » 13 Feb 2015 03:30

Fake cover already at 24.50 USD and still 4 days to go.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PRC-COVER-WITH-PAIRS-OF-5-7-ORIGINAL-P-/221681083924

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(stamps does not exists imperforated)

Rob1956 · Post by **Rob1956** » 18 Mar 2015 00:51

Fake cover sold to the bunny with deep pockets for $338.33

gugusg · Post by **gugusg** » 27 Mar 2015 10:13

http://www.ebay.fr/itm/SUPERBE-et-RARE-NAPOLEON-N-18-1F-Carm ... 43d8d7683b

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1000$ for a forgery, probably shill bidding under that but still insane

warm · Post by **warm** » 27 Mar 2015 13:04

Private ePay bids are a sure sign of dubious intent …

memphre · Post by **memphre** » 27 Mar 2015 13:22

gugusg wrote:http://www.ebay.fr/itm/SUPERBE-et-RARE-NAPOLEON-N-18-1F-Carm ... 43d8d7683b

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1000$ for a forgery, probably shill bidding under that but still insane

Insane is the word.

If the 7, yes count them 7, bids retracted within 30 seconds are not clear indications of shill bidding, then the greatest group of undecided people gathered to bid on this «stamp».

Read the title as deceptive as can be while almost true. «Almost», as a Fournier forgery does not have a high catalogue value. However, the seller does not quantify the so-called «FORTE COTE». A no gum genuine stamp catalogues 4000€, an official reprint catalogues only 2400€ and is much more beautiful than this dog.

The seller is a pro and he gives his business address. If I were him, I'd be afraid someone with a gun coming to claim a refund.

Incredible!

Memphre

China_LA · Post by **China_LA** » 28 Mar 2015 04:13

gugusg wrote:http://www.ebay.fr/itm/SUPERBE-et-RARE-NAPOLEON-N-18-1F-Carm ... 43d8d7683b

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1000$ for a forgery, probably shill bidding under that but still insane

He he, I can beat you! Here some bidders bought a complete worthless pair of fake letters (with fake stamps) for amazing 2024.- USD!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1962-CHINA-2-COVERS-WITH-IMPERF-8-ST ... 1312059702

Here the scans of the fake letters:
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amprantino · Post by **amprantino** » 28 Mar 2015 04:48

How do you know that both, stamp & cover, are fake ?

China_LA · Post by **China_LA** » 28 Mar 2015 12:24

amprantino wrote:How do you know that both, stamp & cover, are fake ?

Hope you were not the buyer...

This forgery is easy to recognize. First of all it has just the wrong dimensions, the coarse and rough print of the cover is worst, not to compare to a genuine cover. The cancels are an imitation and the stamps are forgeries (the photo of the forgery is very unclear, but you can get a feeling just compare the stamp colors).

Maybe this scans help to see:
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Rob1956 · Post by **Rob1956** » 28 Mar 2015 15:01

There is always an idiot in every village, US$2,024.00 flushed down the toilet; didn't the buyer see the warning sign flashing - eBay.

China_LA · Post by **China_LA** » 31 Mar 2015 02:17

Rob1956 wrote:

Fake cover sold to the bunny with deep pockets for $338.33

https://www.ebay.com/itm/PRC-COVER-WITH-PAIRS-OF-5-7-ORIGINAL ... 33a0096761

Ha ha ... the letter is back!

joelk · Post by **joelk** » 31 Mar 2015 02:30

gugusg wrote:http://www.ebay.fr/itm/SUPERBE-et-RARE-NAPOLEON-N-18-1F-Carm ... 43d8d7683b

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1000$ for a forgery, probably shill bidding under that but still insane

Total garbage. He sold this for over € 1,000, and now he is selling the identical copy!

Unbelievable. He should be stopped.

Tassie_Stamps · Post by **Tassie_Stamps** » 15 Apr 2015 16:28

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Australian-5-Dollar-stamps-x-9-fr ... 1526417506

All pen cancelled..great

Rob1956 · Post by **Rob1956** » 15 Apr 2015 20:29

$26 flushed down the toilet.

figmente · Post by **figmente** » 16 Apr 2015 10:19

$105.50 Apr 01, 2015

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LB71502-Sharjah-fish-shell-coral-sea ... 1514943205

... a couple comparable Sharjah flower souvenir sheets went over $200

Not as dramatic as many entries on this thread, but I was impressed.

julesjelev · Post by **julesjelev** » 16 Apr 2015 14:14

China_LA wrote:
Rob1956 wrote:

Fake cover sold to the bunny with deep pockets for $338.33
https://www.ebay.com/itm/PRC-COVER-WITH-PAIRS-OF-5-7-ORIGINAL ... 33a0096761

Ha ha ... the letter is back!

...and sold again for $159+ plus $31 shipping to someone with 2,000+ feedback. Unbelievable.

manfaefife · Post by **manfaefife** » 16 Apr 2015 17:03

figmente wrote:
$105.50 Apr 01, 2015

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LB71502-Sharjah-fish-shell-coral-sea ... 1514943205

... a couple comparable Sharjah flower souvenir sheets went over $200

Not as dramatic as many entries on this thread, but I was impressed.

If that was in a dealers box at a £1 i'd give it a miss, suspecting usual wallpaper rubbish.

The Pom · Post by **The Pom** » 16 Apr 2015 17:52

I had a quick look round to see if I could find any other examples of that Sharjah fish MS, just to see what it's really worth.

Couldn't find one in mint condition. Plenty of CTO for next to nothing, but no mint that I could see, so maybe it's quite scarce as such.

All the same, $100+!

aethelwulf · Post by **aethelwulf** » 16 Apr 2015 18:01

The Pom wrote:Couldn't find one in mint condition. Plenty of CTO for next to nothing, but no mint that I could see, so maybe it's quite scarce as such.

Apparently that's the way Trucial States material goes--CTOs by the truckload, but not a lot of Mint. And used on cover about as common as moon rocks.

$100 does seem high...maybe we've all developed such a firm mindset of "Sand Dunes = worthless" that we don't realize there's diamonds in the rough.

julesjelev · Post by **julesjelev** » 17 Apr 2015 04:22

aethelwulf wrote: $100 does seem high...

maybe not for an Arabian sheikh.

The Pom · Post by **The Pom** » 17 Apr 2015 04:34

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/nystamps-Luxembourg-Stamp-151-Mint-OG-H-1100-/381221144406

Oh dear.

The bidders on this lot are going to get this:

When they think they're buying one of these (SG MS221, CV £1,700):

US$218 with 10 minutes to go.

I advised the seller yesterday. Keep an eye out for feedback.

The Pom · Post by **The Pom** » 17 Apr 2015 04:43

Finished at US$326.

Are people blind?

julesjelev · Post by **julesjelev** » 17 Apr 2015 05:36

The Pom wrote:Are people blind?

What is the difference between the two? Other than the apparent stains / rust on the Ebay item, I do not see anything.

Is it that little "something" under the "10"?

figmente · Post by **figmente** » 17 Apr 2015 09:27

Another went for 16.50 one week later.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LB75489-Sharjah-fish-shell-coral-sea ... 1900787032

Another week and its down to 8.50.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LB80609-Sharjah-fish-shell-coral-sea ... 1526819909

Care to guess at next week?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LB89865-Sharjah-fish-shell-coral-sea ... 1920683945

Stewie1980 · Post by **Stewie1980** » 17 Apr 2015 16:46

julesjelev wrote:
The Pom wrote:Are people blind?
What is the difference between the two? Other than the apparent stains / rust on the Ebay item, I do not see anything.

Is it that little "something" under the "10"?

On the back someone wrote 'VALS'. That's Dutch for FAKE.

aethelwulf · Post by **aethelwulf** » 17 Apr 2015 18:25

figmente wrote:Another went for 16.50 one week later.

Another week and its down to 8.50.

Whoever rushed in at $100+ will feel foolish...assuming they see the prices that subsequent examples fetch.

camelspotter · Post by **camelspotter** » 17 Apr 2015 18:28

julesjelev wrote:Is it that little "something" under the "10"?

Not sure, but possibly that 'little something under 10' is FAUX (fake, in French), so this is just a facsimile.

Stewie1980 · Post by **Stewie1980** » 28 Apr 2015 17:48

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PRC-china-stamps-lot-rare-set-collec ... 7675.l2557

This China lot was sold for US$260.

Or am I missing something? Is there a valuable $1000+ stamp in there?

China_LA · Post by **China_LA** » 28 Apr 2015 21:38

Once again a world class eBay cheater "kilowareman" successful sold a bad forgery:

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHINA-MAO-RED-BOOK-MAP-CHINA-VF-UNUS ... true&rt=nc

But this time low profit for him, just US $1,150.00.

Rob1956 · Post by **Rob1956** » 29 Apr 2015 01:37

China_LA wrote: But this time low profit for him, just US $1,150.00.

There's one born every minute.

For a scammer using eBay is like shooting fish in a barrel.

aethelwulf · Post by **aethelwulf** » 02 May 2015 16:41

That PRC stamp is terrible! The Bunny bidders don't need anyone to scam them, they do such a good job of willingly throwing away their money.

This lot sold yesterday for 179 EUR.

Australien - Queensland - Tasmanien - Süd- u. Westaustralien - Sammlung- Fake

The seller's entire batch of offerings (a couple dozen lots) was of fakes, all stated to be so in the titles, and some of examples were so ridiculously appalling.

Maybe there's some 'good' fakes in the lot, ie. by Fournier etc, that are collected in their own right?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Australia-Queensland-Tasmania-South- ... 1542339747

Rob1956 · Post by **Rob1956** » 03 May 2015 01:19

Sammlung geerbt, glaube aber nicht dass die Marken echt sind. Verkaufe sie daher als Fake!

Rough Translation: However, collection inherited, does not believe that the brands(stamps) are real. If it sells, therefore, as a Fake!

honza · Post by **honza** » 03 May 2015 02:01

Rob1956 wrote:Sammlung geerbt, glaube aber nicht dass die Marken echt sind. Verkaufe sie daher als Fake!

Rough Translation: However, collection inherited, does not believe that the brands(stamps) are real. If it sells, therefore, as a Fake!

Ahoj Rob!

Sammlung geerbt, glaube aber nicht dass die Marken echt sind. Verkaufe sie daher als Fake!

=

Collection inherited but I don't think the stamps are genuine so I am selling them as forgeries.

Cheers,

Honza

honza · Post by **honza** » 03 May 2015 02:21

Ahoj again!

I don't usually take an interest in this sort of thing, but I looked at the bidding on this lot out of one-off curiosity and I found Member Id: s***m, who caused the sudden big increase during the bidding, to have a 93% bidding history with the seller. ermmm?

Cheers,

Honza

Rob1956 · Post by **Rob1956** » 03 May 2015 03:50

Thanks honza for the correction, my rough translation was rougher than I thought.

fromdownunder · Post by **fromdownunder** » 10 Nov 2015 06:33

This lot was bid up to AUD76, which is about AUD60 too much. Crazy. Seller is OK, has nearly 5,000 feedback, and listed this starting at a reasonable $5.95. But buyer o***t really wanted these stamps.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1932-SYDNEY-HARBOUR-BRIDGE-SET-OF ... Swo6lWMdOX

Norm

stampogre · Post by **stampogre** » 10 Nov 2015 07:37

aethelwulf wrote:That PRC stamp is terrible! The Bunny bidders don't need anyone to scam them, they do such a good job of willingly throwing away their money.

This lot sold yesterday for 179 EUR.

Australien - Queensland - Tasmanien - Süd- u. Westaustralien - Sammlung- Fake
The seller's entire batch of offerings (a couple dozen lots) was of fakes, all stated to be so in the titles, and some of examples were so ridiculously appalling.

Maybe there's some 'good' fakes in the lot, ie. by Fournier etc, that are collected in their own right?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Australia-Queensland-Tasmania-South- ... 1542339747

The printing method of most of the stamps seems to be lower quality typo. But the 6 pence south Australia and the black swan look "not so bad".

Not hard to explains,

A bidder with 3127 transactions, most likely, a seller. I am about 95% sure that all of these stamps will be re-offered in separate lots titled as, "Vintage Album Pages From Old Collections, Jumbo Catalogue Value, Gems inside", €179x3 more to make. More crazy bidders are ready to take them over.

manfaefife · Post by **manfaefife** » 10 Nov 2015 18:32

fromdownunder wrote:This lot was bid up to AUD76, which is about AUD60 too much. Crazy. Seller is OK, has nearly 5,000 feedback, and listed this starting at a reasonable $5.95. But buyer o***t really wanted these stamps.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1932-SYDNEY-HARBOUR-BRIDGE-SET-OF ... Swo6lWMdOX

Norm

I agree not sure why it would go to A$76 for the stamps pictured, but the title and description was a bit vague "Sydney Harbour Bridge set of 3", surely any "set" should include the 5/-, what was sold was 3 stamps from the set.

JonEboy · Post by **JonEboy** » 10 Nov 2015 19:21

manfaefife wrote: I agree not sure why it would go to A$76 for the stamps pictured, but the title and description was a bit vague "Sydney Harbour Bridge set of 3", surely any "set" should include the 5/-, what was sold was 3 stamps from the set.

Well, technically it was a set of three. Perhaps not what you or I would expect but it was a set of three. And they all show the bridge and all seem genuine.

I think you'll find the wild price was because it included the rare mint 'slightly different colour 2d' variety

Jon

Machaggis52 · Post by **Machaggis52** » 13 Nov 2015 03:25

julesjelev wrote:
The Pom wrote:Are people blind?
What is the difference between the two? Other than the apparent stains / rust on the Ebay item, I do not see anything.

Is it that little "something" under the "10"?

Blowing that up, it looks very much like 'FAUX'.

vikingeck · Post by **vikingeck** » 14 Nov 2015 01:52

Machaggis52 wrote:
julesjelev wrote:
The Pom wrote:Are people blind?
What is the difference between the two? Other than the apparent stains / rust on the Ebay item, I do not see anything.

Is it that little "something" under the "10"?

Blowing that up, it looks very much like 'FAUX'.

Machaggis you have come to this rather late my friend! For those confused like me, the above conversation refers to the LUXEMBOURG Minisheet a dozen or more posts above FAUX as Indicated by Camelspotter ............ back in APRIL !

Bill H UK · Post by **Bill H UK** » 18 Nov 2015 05:57

What on earth is going on here? Some middling Falklands, worth £1-£2, bid up to £33!!?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stamps-from-the-Falkland-Islands-/111821112416

The Pom · Post by **The Pom** » 18 Nov 2015 18:58

Oh dear.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LUXEMBOURG-1923-10FR-GREEN-MNH-MINI-SHEET-/151884815317

Modern copy, which even has "FAUX" (French for "False" or "Fake") written on it (below the 10).

Seventeen bids, £164 final price.

I've been in touch with the seller, who is 100% straight, and alarmed that he missed something so obvious - the item is being pulled from sale.

Rob1956 · Post by **Rob1956** » 19 Nov 2015 03:53

As I had experienced at rare times that there are honest eBay sellers.