This board has closed down *80* fake eBay stamp sellers!

[aethelwulf]

Despite all the efforts of this board he is still there.

And apparantely still prospering

Catching up on the goings-on in this thread after being away awhile.

Your first point above may be true, that this eBay member hasn't been NARU-ed yet, but I fail to see how your second point can be true, that they are "prospering", give the fact provided here, namely

unistamps feedback was quickly set to private as was nsb13579. (You can not sell while your feedback is set to private) He battled on with stamps_fishing but now has nothing listed for sale after the last disappointing listings.

I haven't posted in this thread before, but I would join with the chorus of other long-time Stampboards members who are asking you some simple questions:

1. What do you propose be done?
2. What are you doing to stop this eBay con?
3. What evidence, not hot air and blah-blah-blah, but evidence, of forging/tampering/misleading selling that is going on?

Sitting around fuming via online messages about how fakes hurt the hobby, then doing nothing about it or even proposing things that can be done, leaves the discussion going around in the same pointless circle endlessly.

[sarge]

Well I read where you want evidence,How is this for starters 230772193250 ………… 330712873735 …….. 230773020143 all on stamps_fishing ....
I also have several Emails from him declining to admit they are fakes also which I will post if you need them.............sarge

[Allanswood]

Sarge, you've posted this on more that one thread without any images to show us, or what is fake about the stamps, so when the numbers finally dissapear off ebay we have no record.

However, also, you havent posted it in the most improtant thread! The one that's all about "Stamps-fishing"!

http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=34934&p=2696833#p2696833

How about trying there?

[Global Administrator]

Ebay have revamped the rules re forged and faked and replica and counterfeit stamps.

Sellers now MUST mark fakes indelibly on reverse, and load a photo of that marking into the lot description.

Alterations (that includes forged perfins, overprints and cancels) and repairs MUST be noted now if known to seller, and sellers offering conga lines of the same fakes clearly DO know!

https://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/currstamps.html#replica_stamps

Also on EVERY ebay lot there is a “Report Item” icon – whether the sale is ended or not.

Reporting that via the simple drop-down options as shown below is a 5 second operation -

If ebay gets 5 or 10 reports on any given items they WILL generally take notice. They usually warn the user and remove the lot. Sellers getting several such removed lots are in trouble.

Let’s use ‘people power’ to stop this material getting offered.

Everyone “hoping” others act, will get nothing done - like most things in life! It takes teamwork and a Community Spirit, and the dodgy and misleading lots will be FAR less.

ebay now have set up a fast new portal JUST to report suspected sellers of forged stamps at - https://www.tinyurl.com/ebayfakes - also found at - https://www.ebay.com/scw - there is space for 10,000 characters in your reply, so all the relevant info can be added. Unlike most ebay complaint forms that allow just 100 characters etc.

Please take a moment to do BOTH ….. do the “Report Item” drop-down, and give a summary on the link above.

Most likely they will go to 2 different ebay staffers, and that is double trouble for the fakers.

Some staffers ignore such stuff, others are more pro-active – it is a lottery.

However several reports on any single item can be seen by all staffers looking at it, and that generally gets some action.

Even if 4 staffers have ignored it, the 5th staffer might see 5 reports and decide to act etc.

"People Power" - never under-estimate the value of it! 8)

Glen

[KGVI]

Why doesn't the APTA make a strong stand. Why are Blue Owls, joanne etc and others allowed to carry on business on ebay?

Marty

You seem to be very quick to demand that APTA do something about Joanne, etc.

Tell us what they should do, remembering none of those traders on ebay that you mention are members of APTA..... Blue Owl is not longer a member.

So lets hear your answers, you have said quite a bit but honestly nothing that this board has not heard before.

GJ50

Can somebody please enlighten me as to what these two (Blue Owls and joanne) have been up to?

KGVI

[admin]

Use the google search box at bottom of each page.

Admin

[KGVI]

Wow Admin. That's impressive.

Thanks for the heads-up.

Now I know.

It also includes blueowl2000 it would seem.

KGVI

[Sekip]

New to this I was run up by a seller with thousands of sales ..how do I know I checked the profile of the bidder against me and 100% of his bid where with "seller1" so this is something to be aware of

[HayeSmyth]

New to this I was run up by a seller with thousands of sales ..how do I know I checked the profile of the bidder against me and 100% of his bid where with "seller1" so this is something to be aware of

Que

[Sekip]

All went well with my order from the above ebayer and from feed backs he has delivered on all his sales

[Snowlion]

I am very impressed of your good job, folks! But No. 29 should certainly not be the last, so please continue your important job!
But what to do with all eBay sellers who ignore the eBay selling guarantee when you list that they sell original stamps, but list forgeries. Take a look f.i. on eBay USA Tibet. The majority of lots are forged. Some sellers in Germany describe their faked item is "Not expertized". Very handy if the seller complains to eBay. He just says: "I had no ideeeeeeea, because it is not exprtized". But at least in Europe also the paper catalogue auction houses have started to sell fakes. I found one even at David Feldman! Some ignore warnings and sell it to "happy" customers. One house did a withdraw after my warning. Two auctions later they turned up again and was sold to "happy" buyers. Anyhow if any matter involve Tibet or WW2 I might
be able to assist.

[fromdownunder]

Mod Comment:

Snowlion I have merged your post into this thread as it did not appear to stand in its own as a separate Opening Post to a thread, and it appears from your post that this was the thread that you were referring to.

Norm

[MrOrganic]

Ebay have revamped the rules re forged and faked and replica and counterfeit stamps.

Sellers now MUST mark fakes indelibly on reverse, and load a photo of that marking into the lot description.

Alterations (that includes forged perfins, overprints and cancels) and repairs and outright modern fakes MUST be noted now if known to seller, and sellers offering conga lines of the same fakes clearly DO know!

Also on EVERY ebay lot there is a “Report Item” icon – whether the sale is ended or not.

Reporting that via the simple drop-down options as shown below is a 5 second operation -

If ebay gets 5 or 10 reports on any given items they WILL generally take notice. They usually warn the user and remove the lot. Sellers getting several such removed lots are in trouble.

Let’s use ‘people power’ to stop this material getting offered.

Everyone “hoping” others act, will get nothing done - like most things in life! It takes teamwork and a Community Spirit, and the dodgy and misleading lots will be FAR less.

ebay now have set up a fast new portal JUST to report suspected sellers of forged stamps at - https://www.tinyurl.com/ebayfakes - also found at - https://www.ebay.com/scw - there is space for 10,000 characters in your reply, so all the relevant info can be added. Unlike most ebay complaint forms that allow just 100 characters etc.

Please take a moment to do BOTH ….. do the “Report Item” drop-down, and give a summary on the link above.

Most likely they will go to 2 different ebay staffers, and that is double trouble for the fakers.

Some staffers ignore such stuff, others are more pro-active – it is a lottery.

However several reports on any single item can be seen by all staffers looking at it, and that generally gets some action.

Even if 4 staffers have ignored it, the 5th staffer might see 5 reports and decide to act etc.

"People Power" - never under-estimate the value of it! 8)

Glen

Ebay's OWN clear written rule is that Counterfeit Stamps are NOT allowed on ebay. Period. Remind them of their OWN rule, and it often does wonders. The average ebay Robot Drone in Bangladesh or Bombay or Bogan has never heard of that rule - REMIND them.

Great Work! People power! So true!

[sp00nybi11]

Great work guys!

[b4name49]

I have been in contact with eBay to report a seller longjo5 for offering fakes. I have made a bid on an item and then realized when it was too late. I have seen that this seller has been reported in the past, so how are they allowed to sell again?