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This auction features the fantastic Large Gold Medal Exhibit of the Kangaroo & Map stamps formed by Peter O'Rourke. It features an extraordinary array of Monogram and No Monogram pieces as well as many imprints and watermark and perforation varieties. This is one of the most significant collections formed and we are honoured to be able to offer it you on Peter's behalf.

The auction, which is now open for bidding on our website, is being held on 12th June 2020, starting at 1:00pm AEST. It will be live on the net via our own auction systems. Just login as usual and then open the Live Bidding window. This will then give you the ability to bid on each lot just as if you were in the room. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any queries.

We have also made this auction available on Stamp Auction Networks' live bidding, so feel free to bid on this platform as well.

Of course you can also phone, fax or email your bids in as well.

Due to COVID-19 restrictions there will be no room bidders, we have organised ourselves to cater for more phone bidders, but we do encourage everyone to use our website as much as possible as that will provide you with best information about each lot and your bids.

If you have any questions about internet or phone bidding please call us on our help line (03) 9038 8136. If you intend to bid live online and have any queries as to how our online bidding operates, please contact us, at least the day before, please do not wait until the last minute.

We look forward to your continued and active participation in our current auction season.

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Three highlights of this superb collection in a recent Stamp News column - these 3 are worth a few $100,000 alone. :mrgreen:

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https://www.glenstephens.com/snmarch20.html
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Some unique items in this auction and a bit of a coup for you to get it David 8)
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As a point of clarification: Lot 123 £2 Black & Rose JBC Monogram single is to be offered as a single stamp and DOES NOT include the extraneous adornments shown in the image a couple of posts back!!

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Phoenix Auctions wrote:DOES NOT include the extraneous adornments shown in the image a couple of posts back!!
If it did include those, I will bid around a Million ish Dollars :D :lol: :lol:
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Phoenix Auctions wrote:As a point of clarification: Lot 123 £2 Black & Rose JBC Monogram single is to be offered as a single stamp and DOES NOT include the extraneous adornments shown in the image a couple of posts back!!

Just be grateful I did not drop it into my coffee at the time, or you'd have a very sorry looking piece to offer next month. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Another unique in collector hands item in the O’Brien sale, is the £2 First Watermark 1913 Kangaroo “JBC” Monogram single shown nearby. I was photographed holding it in New York, at the $A7.15m Arthur Gray Kangaroo sale I flew over for in 2007, at Shreves Auction Galleries.

It had just been invoiced for $A176,930, and it was purchased by the late Simon Dunkerley, who added his fee on top for the client he was bidding for, so it would have cost lets say $A185,000 or so. Estimate was “only” $US50,000-75,000. There was a ding-dong bidding battle for it.

Auctioneer Charles Shreve was VERY nervous that I did not drop this $177,000 stamp into my coffee, when the photos were being taken - as he had not been paid for it yet!!
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Phoenix Auctions wrote:As a point of clarification: Lot 123 £2 Black & Rose JBC Monogram single is to be offered as a single stamp and DOES NOT include the extraneous adornments shown in the image a couple of posts back!!
Aw c'mon, Glen's beard isn't THAT bad :D

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Lot #123 may be great (and of historical importance to boot) but I'd prefer lot#234 in my album. Of course, that's the beauty of this hobby – each to his own, in accordance to his or her personal interests. 8)
Global Administrator wrote:...It had just been invoiced for $A176,930, and it was purchased by the late Simon Dunkerley, who added his fee on top for the client he was bidding for, so it would have cost lets say $A185,000 or so...[/i]
Wait, are you telling me some numpty couldn't bothered to bid themselves, so instead paid another bloke almost $10,000 just to raise a hand?

Forget teaching. I gotta get into this business. I've got two hands, so that's almost $20,000! :lol:

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Global Administrator wrote:...It had just been invoiced for $A176,930, and it was purchased by the late Simon Dunkerley, who added his fee on top for the client he was bidding for, so it would have cost lets say $A185,000 or so...[/i]
Wait, are you telling me some numpty couldn't bothered to bid themselves, so instead paid another bloke almost $10,000 just to raise a hand?
You'd be amazed at how many folks pay agents to bid for them at auctions. For several folks it is a full time job - stamp Auction agent. :lol:

VERY busy (and VERY wealthy) folks often, or in the case you are talking of, re Simon in New York, it was probably 2am or 3am here etc! Back 13 years ago in 2007, there was no live auction platform used. So it was phone - or in-room agent - or fly 20 hours each way to NYC to be there in person!

Having an agent working for a fee, buys you his EYES and experience as well to carefully inspect your lots. That is OFTEN worth WAY over $10,000. Or over $100,000 as in the instance below.

The CA Monogram at Gray had same estimate as the one above but sold for ONE THIRD the price - $100,000 less. See it shown below.

Why? As the monogram had been torn off, and had been later professionally added back on and the whole mess was then regummed. :shock: :roll: :shock:

Was this mentioned at all in the Shreves Auction catalogue? NO. Would you have spotted that, even if inspecting it in the flesh? A client of Shreves bought it via a book bid.

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Simon was experienced enough to spot this major repair, saving O'Rourke over $100,000. Some ''Numpty''. (O'Rourke has the only other CA copy in private hands, ex McNess - featured in this sale.)
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Lot 194 - 9d Violet Die IIB Partly printed on gum corner single
Lot 194 - 9d Violet Die IIB Partly printed on gum corner single
Lot 263 - 6d Chestnut Overprinted 'OS' corner block of 4 with O of overprint omitted
Lot 263 - 6d Chestnut Overprinted 'OS' corner block of 4 with O of overprint omitted


A couple of lots to whet the appetite. :D

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Does any kangaroos specialist have a view on how this auction went?

Not my specialty but I thought results were a little sluggish. Anything on cover was strong. The higher priced items seemed to be quiet. However, I cant assess whether the estimates were at current market value.

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Followed it VERY closely, before and during the sale, and it seemed like a very strong sale, and clearance rate % appeared high.

Some amazing prices for Monograms were obtained. (See a few below) :lol:

Not being able to have the usual large room attendance will have had some impact, but 2 days out, very few lots had bids, and the end result was near all sold in the end, generally around estimate. Heaps of phone and internet bids.

A few of the big $ pieces are being negotiated post sale, with the vendor, as often occurs in such cases.

This used Tasmania flaw was invoiced at $A7,000 - many times catalogue etc.


Australia 1d red Kangaroo stamp used flaw gets $7000!
Australia 1d red Kangaroo stamp used flaw gets $7000!
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This was invoiced at $15,725 and has NO GUM, and perf separations!


£1 Brown & Blue Kangaroo stamp, marginal block of 4 [L1-2,7-8] unit 1 with Specimen ovpt doubled, one inverted, no gum
£1 Brown & Blue Kangaroo stamp, marginal block of 4 [L1-2,7-8] unit 1 with Specimen ovpt doubled, one inverted, no gum
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This hinged strip got near full cat, at $A37,275


9d Violet Plate 1 No Monogram right pane 9d Kangaroo, strip of 3, ACSC#25(1)za, fresh mint, Cat $40,000
9d Violet Plate 1 No Monogram right pane 9d Kangaroo, strip of 3, ACSC#25(1)za, fresh mint, Cat $40,000
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And who says good centering and fresh gum are essential. :mrgreen:

This was invoiced at $A49,500, with toned gum and appalling centering.


5/- Grey & Yellow JBC Third Watermark Kangaroo stamp Monogram single, ACSC #44zc,
5/- Grey & Yellow JBC Third Watermark Kangaroo stamp Monogram single, ACSC #44zc,
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And one the late Rod Perry would be pleased to have seen - this got near double estimate at $18,640. Toned, heavily creased, and banged about.

"Woodchipped" OFF cover - a few $100 for the used stamp, the CofA, the very commonest of the £2 Roos. :!: :!:


£2 Black & Rose Kangaroo plus 5d Ram pair (£2/10/- = 7 times the trans-pacific rate of 6/10d) on 1941 (Dec 6) California Clipper cover from Sydney to England via New Zealand and USA.
£2 Black & Rose Kangaroo plus 5d Ram pair (£2/10/- = 7 times the trans-pacific rate of 6/10d) on 1941 (Dec 6) California Clipper cover from Sydney to England via New Zealand and USA.
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1932 CofA watermark 6d Brown Kangaroo stamp with “OS” overprint inverted - invoiced $A35,000
1932 CofA watermark 6d Brown Kangaroo stamp with “OS” overprint inverted - invoiced $A35,000


One most unusual stamp offered at the O'Rourke auction at Phoenix on June 12 was the 1932 CofA watermark 6d Brown Kangaroo stamp with “OS” overprint inverted, illustrated nearby. I remember being at a Sydney stamp dealer meeting in 1985 where local member, the late Jim Jude of Northway Stamps near me, showed it to fellow dealers, to get their thoughts.

Jim had just bought it sitting in a PO Specimen pack that he had purchased from a member of the public. No inverted overprints had ever been recorded - then and now! As can be seen, the stamp has little pieces of gummed stamp selvedge in each corner. Why? As the stamp printer used them to replace a stamp into a sheet that had been damaged in some way - a cut, tear, or ink spill etc.

Official Printer patching repair.


Now and again, patching in a substitute stamp or stamps would be done quickly by printer in this “Waste Not” Great Depression era, and it was hence inserted - but upside down. No big deal on a sheet of normal 6d brown, as that can be replicated or faked, but if that sheet was selected for overprinting, clearly the overprint got INVERTED on that one stamp.

And so it was, with this 6d Brown. Amazing that whomever was ripping up that sheet to insert into the PO specimen packs for collectors did not notice. The 4 little bits of selvedge would have been annoying to tear and separate into a single stamp, and you’d look carefully at the stamp when doing that. But clearly no-one noticed, and it went into the pack, and Jim found it over a half century later.

This was one of the very few unique Kangaroo stamps that Arthur Gray did not own. The values under 10/- were all neat corner cancelled in these Specimen packs, and this one stamp is the only one ever recorded. Some KGV heads “OS” inverted occurred via the same PO "patching in" upside down error. Estimate $A30,000, it was invoiced for $A35,000.
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towradji wrote:
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...Anything on cover was strong.

Rod Perry would be pleased as punch! Again, see – his wisdom continues to hold true! 8-)

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Thanks, very interesting

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A couple of lots to whet the appetite. :D
That 9d was a cracker David.

It was invoiced for $3000 on a $500 Estimate.

Quite amazing printing error.

9d Kangaroo stamp with spectacular turned over corner.  Invoiced $3000 on $500 estimate.
9d Kangaroo stamp with spectacular turned over corner. Invoiced $3000 on $500 estimate.
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And for a mere $A105,000 you can buy a new Mercedes sports car .... or this!


3rd Watermark Kangaroo stamp, hinged part monogram £1 corner strip 3 - invoiced $105,000
3rd Watermark Kangaroo stamp, hinged part monogram £1 corner strip 3 - invoiced $105,000
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Catweazle wrote:
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...Anything on cover was strong.

Rod Perry would be pleased as punch! Again, see – his wisdom continues to hold true! 8-)

Yes indeed - this one was invoiced at $1,100 - over double estimate, and about DOUBLE what it sold for at Gray sale - where it also sold above estimate!

6d Blue Kangaroo pair (Cat $600 on cover) + 1d Roo + Victoria 2d violet & 2½d blue (late fee) on 1913 cover (reduced at left) from Melbourne to USA. A rare combination item. Ex Nelson and Gray
6d Blue Kangaroo pair (Cat $600 on cover) + 1d Roo + Victoria 2d violet & 2½d blue (late fee) on 1913 cover (reduced at left) from Melbourne to USA. A rare combination item. Ex Nelson and Gray
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A couple of lots to whet the appetite. :D
That 9d was a cracker David.

It was invoiced for $3000 on a $500 Estimate.

Quite amazing printing error.

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I assume it’s the most outstanding printing fold error on a Roo or possibly any Australian Commonwealth issue :?: In fact it was probably so outstanding that’s why it survived the printers waste bin.

I sold a number of KGVI and QEII printing fold errors about 10 years ago (imperf at left, at bottom, etc.) but they were nowhere near as spectacular as this Roo.
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I assume it’s the most outstanding printing fold error on a Roo or possibly any Australian Commonwealth issue :?: In fact it was probably so outstanding that’s why it survived the printers waste bin.

I sold a number of KGVI and QEII printing fold errors about 10 years ago (imperf at left, at bottom, etc.) but they were nowhere near as spectacular as this Roo.

Yes be hard to find a more striking looking piece I agree. Can't think of one :lol:

I keep looking at it, and have no clear idea how it occurred, but it clearly did. :)

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I keep looking at it, and have no clear idea how it occurred, but it clearly did. :)

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OK, got it - some collector or dealer decided to add a new margin crease, 5 to 10 mm parallel to the original one, so the misregistration showed far more dramatically. Pretty clever and worked well!
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And one the late Rod Perry would be pleased to have seen - this got near double estimate at $18,640. Toned, heavily creased, and banged about.

"Woodchipped" OFF cover - a few $100 for the used stamp, the CofA, the very commonest of the £2 Roos. :!: :!:


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This cover was lot 1144 in Prestige's auction 160 in November 2010 - The Kevin Nelson Collection of Australian Postal History.

https://www.prestigephilately.com/cats.php?sortcode=nelson2b4&auctionnum=160

3 things caught my eye:

1. The price realised. It sold for $21,000 (without fees) back then. So about 20+% drop in 'price'.

2. The description of the item. In Prestige's description, it was stated that "Kangaroos £2 black & rose-carmine (well centred but pulled perf at upper-right) ... ... ironed-out central vertical fold well clear of the stamps. The Phoenix description had none of these!

3. The other CofA watermark £2 cover. "Only one other cover - as distinct from a parcel tag - bearing a "Two Pound Roo" is recorded. That item sold at the Arthur Gray sale in New York (2007) for $US15,525 which, at the time, was the equivalent of $A21,560. It was acquired by a dealer and subsequently changed hands again for more than $A30,000."

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An update to the O’Rourke Kangaroo Auction.

Post auction negotiations continue to take place and offers for a number of lots have been accepted by Mr O’Rourke.

The main items so far sold after Auction are as follows:

Lot 47 - 3d Olive Die I Plate 2 bottom left corner block of 4, lower units Imperforate on 3 sides from bottom of sheet, BW #12be (SG 5a, cat £75,000), one top unit hinged, Cat $95,000. Sold for $103,000+

Lot 122 - £2 Black & Rose CA Monogram single. Sold for $103,000+

Lot 123 - £2 Black & Rose JBC Monogram single. Sold for $121,000+

All other details have been updated on our website.
3d Olive Die I Plate 2 bottom left corner block of 4, lower units Imperforate on 3 sides from bottom of sheet
3d Olive Die I Plate 2 bottom left corner block of 4, lower units Imperforate on 3 sides from bottom of sheet
£2 Black & Rose CA Monogram single
£2 Black & Rose CA Monogram single
£2 Black & Rose JBC Monogram single
£2 Black & Rose JBC Monogram single
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Well done getting those 3 pieces away all into the 6 figure territory David .. the sale result really looks strong now.

Added a piece with several sale highlights over the weekend -

https://www.glenstephens.com/snjuly20.html

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