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Northwest Beach, near Kakariki, Waikoa Island.
In 2019, Waikoa Island issued a set of 15 stamps, for fiscal use primarily. Each is printed by typography in two colours on glossy white paper, and perf 12.

Although primarily for tax purposes, they can also be used on mail, as high-value stamps are not printed on the island.

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Waikoa Island 2019 postal-fiscal issue, 7 tanos.
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Waikoa Island 2019 postal-fiscal issue, 42 tanos.
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Waikoa Island 2019 postal-fiscal issue, 4.25 reis.
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Waikoa Island 2019 postal-fiscal issue, 6.25 reis.
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Waikoa Island 2019 postal-fiscal issue, 7.25 reis.
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Waikoa Island 2019 postal-fiscal issue, 12 reis.
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Waikoa Island 2019 postal-fiscal issue, 17 reis.
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Waikoa Island 2019 postal-fiscal issue, 56 reis.
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Waikoa Island 2019 postal-fiscal issue, 100 reis.
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Waikoa Island 2019 postal-fiscal issue, 200 reis.
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Waikoa Island 2019 postal-fiscal issue, 300 reis.
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Waikoa Island 2019 postal-fiscal issue, 500 reis.
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Waikoa Island 2019 postal-fiscal issue: 2,000 reis.
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Waikoa Island 2019 postal-fiscal issue: 15,000 reis.
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Waikoa Island 2019 postal-fiscal issue: 1,000,000 reis.
The values all represent the various tax rates. The lowest stamp, seven tanos, is Email Tax, and this stamp must be affixed to every email that is printed out for whatever reason.

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Rs 7¼ stamp is for Marijuana Tax, and must be affixed to every half-ounce packet of cannabis that is sold.

The top value,
one million reis, is bribery tax. One must be affixed to every agreement outlining the corruption, and signed by the person receiving the bribe. The bribe thereupon moves from the realm of "illegality" to "authorised" and exempt from prosecution.

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Panterra wrote:
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Mevu 2019 fiscal stamps, showing the Mevu crest with a penguin on iceberg.
Mevu has used a standing penguin on its crest since independence 50 years ago.

Visit their website.
There are 15 stamps in the fiscal set. Here is the full set:
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Mevu 2019 fiscal, 7 tanos, turquoise & blue.
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Mevu 2019 fiscal, 42 tanos, magenta & blue.
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Mevu 2019 fiscal, 4¼ reis, lemon & green.
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Mevu 2019 fiscal, 6¼ reis, grey & green.
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Mevu 2019 fiscal, 7¼ reis, fluorescent orange & green.
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Mevu 2019 fiscal, 12 reis, blue & red.
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Mevu 2019 fiscal, 17 reis, light brown & blue.
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Mevu 2019 fiscal, 56 reis, silver & red.
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Mevu 2019 fiscal, 100 reis, brown & green.
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Mevu 2019 fiscal, 200 reis, fluorescent green & blue.
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Mevu 2019 fiscal, 300 reis, yellow & red.
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Mevu 2019 fiscal, 500 reis, gold & red.
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Mevu 2019 fiscal, 2,000 reis, green & red.
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Mevu 2019 fiscal, 15,000 reis, red & blue.
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Mevu 2019 fiscal, 1,000,000 reis, purple & red.
Mevu Philatelic Bulletin wrote:The Mevu Ministry of Finance will issue a new series of fifteen revenue stamps to collect taxation,
announced the President, Her Excellency, Mrs Liese Keller, today.

The stamps feature the crest of the country, showing a penguin. They have been printed
in two colours by typography and perforated 12 gauge, by Chan Hui Shudian Printing SA,
Minaue, Waikoa Island. While not intended for postal use, they will be permitted for
mail, as very high value postage stamps are not printed in the Antarctic.

The same tax rates apply in our colony, Waikoa Island, so they will also have a similar set
of fifteen stamps, though in a different design and colour scheme.

Date of issue is 22nd October 2019. These are for the main taxation rates in the country:


7 tanos, Turquoise & blue . . . Email tax. (Must be affixed to every email that is printed out for whatever reason.)

42 tanos, Magenta & blue . . . Medical tax. (Must be affixed to every medical prescription to be filled.)

Rs 4.25, Lemon & green . . . Entertainment tax. (Must be affixed to every cinema and stadium ticket.)

Rs 6.25, Grey & green . . . Bicycle tax. (Must be affixed to every annual bicycle permit.)

Rs 7.25, Orange & green . . . Marijuana tax. (Must be affixed to every half-ounce bag of cannabis sold.)

Rs 12, Blue & red . . . Small boat tax. (Must be affixed to every boat annual licence, for boat 10m and smaller.)

Rs 17, Light brown & blue . . . Dog tax. (Must be affixed to every annual dog licence.)

Rs 56, Silver & red . . . Wedding tax. (Must be affixed to every marriage license.)

Rs 100, Brown & green . . . Departure tax. (Must be affixed to every travel ticket by person leaving the country.)

Rs 200, Green & blue . . . Large boat tax. (Must be affixed to every boat annual licence, for boat 11m and larger.)

Rs 300, Yellow & red . . . Land transfer tax. (Land half-hectare or smaller.)

Rs 500, Gold & red . . . Company registration tax.

Rs 2,000, Green & red . . . Land transfer tax. (Land greater than half-hectare up to 2 ha.)

Rs 15,000, Red & blue . . . Land transfer tax. (Land greater than 2.1 hectare.)

Rs 1,000,000, Purple & red . . . Bribery tax. (Must be affixed to every agreement to bribe.)

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Panterra wrote:This year, 2020, is the fiftieth birthday of Mevu, a small Antarctic republic first established in 1970, and which has been a steady stamp-issuer since then.

So to celebrate this birthday in a philatelic way, Waikoa Island joined other lands to issue an attractive set of four stamps on 12th March 2020:

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Waikoa Island 2020 50th anniversary of Mevu's Independence.
I see with all this discussion about Waikoa Island and its location and stamps, I somehow overlooked showing its miniature sheet celebrating the Mevu half-century. So here it is:
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Waikoa Island 2020 50th anniversary of Mevu's Independence, minisheet.
The stamps are printed in these small minisheets to make it easy to fit the sheet on an album page, and on covers. Hard to do that with a sheet of 100!

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Waikoa Island 2020 Marijuana tax. 2019 fiscal stamp overprinted.
Waikoa Island issued this stamp in 2020 to gather tax on legal marijuana sales. The Rs 7.25 (= US $7.25) is the tax on a ½ ounce bag of cannabis sold (the most common commercial unit on the island.) The stamp is the Rs 7.25 of the 2019 fiscal issue with an appropriate overprint.

Cannabis was legalised for recreational use in Colorado, USA, in 2012, and in Waikoa Island in 2014. This year, in New Zealand, we have a referendum to vote on whether marijuana should be legalised. I urge everyone to vote in favour of this.

Most of us know friends or relatives who have been persecuted in the past, and often fined or jailed for the “crime” of having a natural herb in their pocket. Meanwhile, another person may have tobacco or sweets in their pocket, yet despite the enormous health risk from use of both sugar and tobacco, no crime is imputed to them! Queen Victoria is reported to have been a regular user of marijuana for medical issues (or maybe she just liked it to relax), so it was never banned in her day.

An elderly friend in Dunedin got six months in jail for this herb a few years back. Yet that same man devoted many years to safeguarding Kiwis by working in our navy. Ingratitude? I’m sure you know similar bizarre stories.

Why should our society continue to act like a dictatorship, in telling everyone what they can and can’t do with their own lives? In the past, people who spent their time telling others not to enjoy themselves were called “wowsers”. I doubt we need such bad advisers any more (if we ever did!) I suggest we all act firmly to get rid of this foolish ban on use of natural herbs now. Let’s legalise it, and let the police chase real criminals, rather than fake ones.

Cannabis should be a health issue, not a crime. One in twenty Kiwis use cannabis medicinally and need safe, legal and affordable access to natural cannabis as well as refined products.


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Upper Yafa 2000 Sultan's 50th Birthday, 250 baiza.
Upper Yafa issued this stamp in 1421 (a.k.a. 2000) as one of a set of four to celebrate the 50th birthday of the Sultan.

This year is his 70th birthday, so ideas are now being discussed for what philatelic celebration will be done.

Stand by for further developments on this.

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Panterra wrote:
04 May 2020 20:28
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Northwest Beach, near Kakariki, Waikoa Island.
In 2019, Waikoa Island issued a set of 15 stamps, for fiscal use primarily. Each is printed by typography in two colours on glossy white paper, and perf 12.
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Waikoa Island 2019 postal-fiscal issue, 4.25 reis.

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Waikoa Island 2019 postal-fiscal issue, 300 reis.

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The controversial "yellow" fiscal stamps.
Note the lemon shade of the 300 reis stamp, and compare this with the scan of the same stamp shown above in my earlier post.

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A major scandal has erupted on Waikoa Island, 
surrounding the recently-issued fiscal stamps, 
with a suicide attempt.

There are two different shades of yellow used: 
a rather orangey yellow on the 4¼ reis, and 
a pale lemon yellow on the 300 reis.  It seems 
almost impossible to scan the lemon stamp, as 
the scanner just refuses to recognise the faint 
tones, so my photo here is taken with a mobile 
phone, which gives a somewhat more true representation.
Waikoa Observer newspaper wrote:Scandal at the Post Office over yellow stamps!

A row has erupted at the Minaue Post Office, which sells fiscal stamps for tax purposes as agent for the Department of Finance.

One of the main stamps purchased in big bulk is the 4¼ reis stamp for entertainment tax. These are affixed to all cinema and sporting event tickets, and now that cinemas have re-opened following the pandemic lockdown, large quantities are being used.

But the fiscal stamp series includes two yellow stamps: the aforementioned 4¼ reis, and also the 300 reis stamp, which is also yellow, though in a lemon shade. Far fewer of that stamp are sold, as it is mainly used for tax on land transfer.

Last week, a postal assistant got a request from a customer for two dozen "yellow stamps for cinema tickets", and accidently handed over twelve of the yellow Rs 300 stamp, and only charged the client 102 reis, assuming it was the 4¼ reis stamp.

When it was time to balance the books at the end of the day, it was noted that the discrepancy was Rs 7,098, and after much re-checking, the source of the error was identified.

The assistant was ordered to reimburse the Post Office the shortfall, but distraught, she went home and took an overdose of drugs in a suicide attempt. Fortunately she was able to be revived in hospital, and the Post Office has agreed to write off the amount.

However, it highlights the problem of the stamp colours being so similar. To solve the problem, the Rs 300 lemon stamps have all been withdrawn, and the printers instructed to print a new supply of Rs 300 stamps in red. Most of the withdrawn Rs 300 stamp have now been overprinted "Official" for government office use.

A spokesman for Chan Hui Shudian Printers, Mr Jiang Malingshu, said that the original instructions for printing the fiscal stamps were that each stamp should be a distinctive different colour, and that black must not be used. He thought that the orange and lemon stamps were sufficiently different to comply with that directive, and pointed out that each had the value inscription in a different colour so they looked nothing like each other. And the suggested stamp colours were all signed off by the Governor.
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Panterra wrote:
14 Jun 2020 05:01
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Two tee or not two tee. That is the question.
If you think the Maggie Mailbox stamp is complicated, it has nothing on other Waikoan issues:
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Waikoa Island 2019 postal-fiscal issue, 300 reis.
ImageThe controversial "yellow" fiscal stamps.
Note the lemon shade of the 300 reis stamp, and compare this with the scan of the same stamp shown above in my earlier post.
Waikoa Observer newspaper wrote:Scandal at the Post Office over yellow stamps!

A row has erupted at the Minaue Post Office, which sells fiscal stamps for tax purposes as agent for the Department of Finance.

One of the main stamps purchased in big bulk is the 4¼ reis stamp for entertainment tax. These are affixed to all cinema and sporting event tickets, and now that cinemas have re-opened following the pandemic lockdown, large quantities are being used.

But the fiscal stamp series includes two yellow stamps: the aforementioned 4¼ reis, and also the 300 reis stamp, which is also yellow, though in a lemon shade. Far fewer of that stamp are sold, as it is mainly used for tax on land transfer.

Last week, a postal assistant got a request from a customer for two dozen "yellow stamps for cinema tickets", and accidently handed over twelve of the yellow Rs 300 stamp, and only charged the client 102 reis, assuming it was the 4¼ reis stamp.

When it was time to balance the books at the end of the day, it was noted that the discrepancy was Rs 7,098, and after much re-checking, the source of the error was identified.

The assistant was ordered to reimburse the Post Office the shortfall, but distraught, she went home and took an overdose of drugs in a suicide attempt. Fortunately she was able to be revived in hospital, and the Post Office has agreed to write off the amount.

However, it highlights the problem of the stamp colours being so similar. To solve the problem, the Rs 300 lemon stamps have all been withdrawn, and the printers instructed to print a new supply of Rs 300 stamps in red. Most of the withdrawn Rs 300 stamp have now been overprinted "Official" for government office use.

A spokesman for Chan Hui Shudian Printers, Mr Jiang Malingshu, said that the original instructions for printing the fiscal stamps were that each stamp should be a distinctive different colour, and that black must not be used. He thought that the orange and lemon stamps were sufficiently different to comply with that directive, and pointed out that each had the value inscription in a different colour so they looked nothing like each other. And the suggested stamp colours were all signed off by the Governor.
Yesterday the new Rs 300 stamp in red shade was released, and my fisherwoman pal on the island kindly organised a few FDCs. Luckily the fish have been biting lately, so she had a glut of cash to fork out the huge cost (= US$300!) per FDC:
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I collect all of the self-declareds. Though they might not be mainstream collectibles, their scarcity, at times, makes them collectible, and therefore, imbues them an inherent value (imo). And if true value is what you can get for them, just try and buy them online.
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Price is affected by supply and demand, and a monopoly position.
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Just heard from an acquaintance in UK that a letter sent to him from Mevu during the lockdown, reached him on 25th June. Posted at Mevu on 20th May, so a little over one month journey.
Mevu cover to UK, 20th May 2020.  Received at Bury St Edmunds on 25th June 2020.
Mevu cover to UK, 20th May 2020. Received at Bury St Edmunds on 25th June 2020.

Perhaps the 2,100 reis (= US$2,100) "private aircraft charter fee" (paid with fiscal stamps) helped to speed it on the journey. But I suspect the pilot detoured to Rio or Havana, possibly to indulge in some gambling, rather than a direct flight.

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Waikoa Island 2020 42 tanos Official stamp. 2019 fiscal stamp overprinted.
Seven values of the long fiscal set were overprinted for exclusive Admin usage, but not the One Million Reis stamp (as government officials don't pay bribes, they only accept them.)

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Waikoa Island 2020 6¼ reis Official stamp. 2019 fiscal stamp overprinted.
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Waikoa Island 2020 twelve reis Official stamp. 2019 fiscal stamp overprinted.
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Waikoa Island 2020 fifty-six reis Official stamp. 2019 fiscal stamp overprinted.
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Waikoa Island 2020 three hundred reis Official stamp. 2019 fiscal stamp overprinted.
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Waikoa Island 2020 two thousand reis Official stamp. 2019 fiscal stamp overprinted.
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Waikoa Island 2020 fifteen thousand reis Official stamp. 2019 fiscal stamp overprinted.
Note that the Rs 300 stamp is the obsolete colour, recently withdrawn from regular sale due to ambiguity. Most of the withdrawn stamps were given the overprint, as an alternative to destruction.

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Upper Yafa celebrates the 70th birthday of its much-loved ruler, Sultan Bogdo the second, on 19th July 2020 (or 28th Dhul Qadah, 1441, in Hijri calendar.)

As the birthday itself is a public holiday, the stamps were issued somewhat ahead of the date, namely on 8th July 2020.
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The stamps show His Majesty the Sultan, and a Piper Warrior aircraft, a small plane that His Majesty learned to fly back in 1978 (= 1398 A.H.)
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It is great news to hear that the Waikoa Island Post Office is planning a new issue to promote philately. They just announced this new issue last Friday:
Waikoa Observer newspaper wrote:
Stamp Collecting Month to be honoured

Waikoa Island will issue a special set of two commemorative stamps to celebrate the month of October as Stamp Collecting Month, announced the Postmaster, Mr Whetu Ngatai, today.

"The two stamps, valued at 35 tanos and 1.70 reis, each show a view of a stamp stockbook page with a magnifier and some stamps thereon. Date of issue will be Tuesday 1st September 2020, and the stamps are being issued in small minisheets comprising five of each value, at Rs 10.25," he added.

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Millions of philatelists

The president of the Waikoa Stamp Club, Mr Rasjid Grvanch, explained: "Stamp collecting is an important aspect of the modern world, and philatelists worldwide number in the millions. In fact, were it not for philately, many small islands such as Waikoa, Pitcairn, Tuvalu, and St Kitts, would hardly be known at all in the wider world. Despite much communication being done by email, philately still has a vital role to play in the modern world, and philatelists remain valued humans in every land."

The sheets of stamps carry messages on the side-selvedges urging folks to join their local stamp clubs, and mentioning that Waikoa Island's first stamps appeared over half a century ago, back in 1965. Most stamps have widely-accepted valuations, and exhibitions are held around the globe. Exchanging duplicate stamps by mail with friends from other lands is a great way to build up an interesting collection, and meet fellow collectors.

The new stamps were designed by Miss Millicent Smergley of Takavau, and printed by Chan Hui Shudian Printers in Minaue. They are printed in full-colour on 100 gram security paper, and perf 12.


Spice of philately

Asked about the recent stamps celebrating Letter-Writing Week (some of which had a spelling error), Mr Grvanch said that errors are the spice of philately. "Collectors enjoy finding stamps with errors on, and the fact that the Post Office continues to sell both the stamps with and without the error makes life more interesting for us," he concluded.
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Waikoa Island 2020 Stamp Collecting Month, minisheet.
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Will covers be available signed by the stamp designer ?
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Ubobo.R.O. wrote:
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Will covers be available signed by the stamp designer ?
Fortunately, my fisherwoman pal on the island was able to prevail on Miss Smergley to sign some covers. Mine just arrived in the post, looking good:

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Waikoa Island 2020 Stamp Collecting Month set,
on first day cover, and signed by the designer.

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Sandy Island has now had its first new issue for the year 2020. I gather it celebrates the Anura Conference at the island.



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Sandy Island 2020 Frogs Condominium.

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. . . and here is the minisheet, which looks very attractive.

Note that the Butterfly stamp is almost identical to the 2019 one, but with the correct date now shown on it: 2020.


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Sandy Island 2020 Frogs Condominium & butterfly, in minisheet.

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I see the "inverted" stamp has shifted from position #9 to position #10.
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Yes, funny how those frogs "jump" around! Sometimes here, sometimes there.

Personally, I am a bit suspicious of frogs. Too slimy in their ways for me!




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I am sad to report the death (from Covid-19) of Fabio Vaccarezza, founder and postmaster of Sandy Island, on 17th November 2020, in Milan. A truly wonderful gentleman, and a keen cinderella philatelist. He and I collaborated on numerous projects, and sent each other stamps, catalogues, and literature.

He will be sorely missed.




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Fabio signs the Maurice Williams Roll of Distinguished Cinderella Philatelists, at the 2009 meeting of the Cinderella Stamp Club in U.K.



Sadly, this means a temporary hiatus in the beautiful stamps of Sandy Island, until such time as a new postmaster takes up the post.

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Hilarious

Sounds like the 300 Reis vs 4.25 Reis mix up is a mirror event of what happened in New Zealand in 1937. A man bought a sheet of 1/3 Fiscal stamps and received a sheet of 35/- Fiscal stamps. The discrepancy was massive being that the cheaper stamps were 15 pence each and the more expensive was 420 pence each.

This booboo cost the Post Office some £162 and the Postal clerk their job. The reason was that the ink on both stamps was the same colour or near enough in shade to be easily confused. A lighter lemon colour was offered for the 1/3 value - but finally in 1939 it was decided to overprint the stamps in black with their actual value. This was in values from 1/3 to £1000 and was the fiscal arms set used between 1931 and 1986 although most usage ended in 1953.

Waikoa's booboo was a recreation of this historical act of ineptitude :lol:

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I was recently delighted to receive a beautiful collection of stamps and a catalogue from Morningmoss, a land I as yet know little about.

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Morningmoss stamps, and the Postage Due set.



Some of the stamps show some famous Post Offices of the country,while others show the Postmaster-General, evidently a very competent individual. Several are for Military Post, so it is nice that the Army is encouraged to be literate.

The collection arrived in a nice cover, and included a colour Catalogue for the Galeron colony
Sides of de North. This has been published by a local stamp firm, Tanley & Ibbons, who have been in the philatelic game for many eons, and have a good reputation. But it is for catalogue publishing they are most well-known.

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The Tanley & Ibbons Galeron stamp catalogue, a full-colour book.



Thank you for these, Les.

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A most interesting issue. I particularly like the postage due set.
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I am impressed by the ornate figures of value on the Morningmoss "Postage Due" set! This is from a font I have not been able to identify. I will inquire of the designer.


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I would like to see this catalogue. Hear a lot of talk about it, never seen a page. Is it available in our neck of the woods.
Yes, the Phillips Catalogues are available on CD. Here are the details (from the website of the German agent):
Yourstamps of Berlin wrote: Stamp Catalogues

If you are interested in postage stamps, you have most probably encountered some of the renowned international stamp catalogues, e.g. "Michel" (Germany), Stanley Gibbons (UK), Yvert & Tellier (France) or Sassone (Italy). They cover the official stamp issues of recognized countries and territories all over the world.

But those official catalogues leave open a huge "grey area" of stamps which are not really deemed "official", not recognized by the Universal Postal Union UPU, but which are much more than mere advertising labels. They might have been issued by unrecognized states, by local mail services and islands, by railways, by charity organisations or even by micronations.

For a growing number of stamp collectors, this philatelic "grey area" is becoming more and more interesting. Modern "official" stamps have high printing runs and often are targeted towards the philatelic market, while classical stamps from pre-WW II times are often very expensive.

"Unofficial" stamps are fascinating because they give you a feeling of discovery and are not that easy to obtain, although they are usually not expensive. Also, they are often linked to interesting history, both international and local. The only detractor used to be the lack of documentation - as they were not listed in any catalogue, it used to be very difficult to position a certain stamp in its context and find out further details about it.

But that has changed! You might be surprised to hear that this philatelic "grey area" also has its great Catalogue Publisher. One man, Ralph Phillips, a great collector fascinated by these "unofficial" or semi-official stamps, has created a surprisingly high number of high quality catalogues for various philatelic areas which are not covered by the large catalogue publishers in most cases. He regularly keeps all of the catalogues up to date. Three of the catalogues, for UK island stamps, also contain ready-to-print album pages.

From Yourstamps' perspective, the catalogues covering the Scottish Islands (CAT-RP-08) and the Micronations of the World (CAT-RP-22) can be highly recommended. The Scottish Islands catalogue is a subset of the Modern British Locals catalogue (CAT-RP-01).

Yourstamps is proud to offer the whole range of the Phillips Catalogues for purchase.

Yourstamps will be responsible for your order and invoicing. We will also manage any complaints and issues. At the moment, the catalogues are not available in print, but only on CD.
Contact us if you prefer other modes of delivery. You will receive the most up-to-date version of the catalogue CDs. Payment is in advance, via PayPal, Credit Card and EU Bank Transfer. An invoice will be sent electronically by Yourstamps. The invoice will also included in the shipment for customs purposes. No VAT added as Yourstamps is a small enterprise according to German tax law. The catalogue CDs will be delivered directly from the publisher, Ralph Phillips (Israel). Shipping is included in the price.


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CAT-RP-01 Great Britain - Modern British Locals (3 CDs) €50
CAT-RP-02 United States - Modern USA Locals (4 CDs) €50
CAT-RP-03 Great Britain - Modern British Railway Companies Locals €30
CAT-RP-04 Great Britain - Modern British Strike Mail €30
CAT-RP-05 Great Britain - Summer Isles - Catalog & Album Pages €25
CAT-RP-06 Great Britain - Easdale Island - Catalog & Album Pages €25
CAT-RP-07 Great Britain - Pabay - Catalog & Album Pages €25
CAT-RP-08 Great Britain - Scottish Islands €25
CAT-RP-09 Manchuria - 1946-1949 Local Overprints €35
CAT-RP-10 Israel - Keren Kayemet Le'Israel, Jewish National Fund €35
CAT-RP-11 Canada - Modern Local and Strike Mail €35
CAT-RP-12 Greece - Mount Athos €17
CAT-RP-13 Sovereign Military Order of Malta €30
CAT-RP-14 Trucial States €40
CAT-RP-15 Oman State, Dhufar and South Arabia €40
CAT-RP-16 East Asia - Local Posts €40
CAT-RP-17 Africa - Modern Breakaway States €40
CAT-RP-18 Non UN-Recognized States of Former USSR €40
CAT-RP-19 Palestine - Palestinian Authority and unofficial issues €35
CAT-RP-20 Universal Mail - New Zealand and United Kingdom Issues €30
CAT-RP-21 Australia and New Zealand - Local, Private and Railway Issues €30
CAT-RP-22 Micronations of the World €40
CAT-RP-23 Russia - Post 1990 Unofficial Locals (3 CDs) €35
CAT-RP-24 Iraq Kurdistan - Modern Issues €35
CAT-RP-25 Commonwealth Islands - Non-catalogue Islands of Carribean and Atlantic €35
CAT-RP-26 Commonwealth Islands - Non-catalogue Islands of the Pacific €35
CAT-RP-27 New Zealand Customized Advertising Labels and Regionals €35

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Well done -- post Brexit, those same 6 cows might help save the UK economy. :)

Those poor sods had rationing well into the 1950s - be nothing new over there. Back THEN they had an Empire to bail them out of starvation, including Australia and NZ who sent literally 100,000s of huge food parcels, but they'll be on their own after Brexit. :idea:
I don't know. Here in Flanders, the government tried to use a charter issued by Charles II to be able to keep fishing in there waters. Above that, the UK is our most important export country for processed food (fe. frozen french fries). Brexit hurts us more then them.

IIRC, the UK is (was) the only EU member who had more exports to non EU countries then to EU countries. The French dominated treaties (in favor of France) with the ABC countries was also a constant pain in UK a* as they where not able to negotiate with independently with Commonwealth countries.

The UK import more form Europe then Europe form the UK, so that's also a strong negotiation position. Lastly, London is the main world center for money and gold trade, what was constantly attacked by Paris and Frankfort.

I don't think that on the long haul, Britain will suffer from the Brexit.
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If a country meets the requirements of the Montevideo convention, I collect its stamps

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montevideo_Convention

If not, I decide to keep the Cinderellas's coming in from collections and kiloware I buy depending if it's a genuine state in exile (f.e. first sets of State of Oman), if the Cinderellas's are nice to see (so not the garbage from Finkel whatever his name is again) but I don't pay money from it or if there is a history behind.

There is always a place in the back of the books 8-)

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I do not consider myself a philatelist, because I am interested in just such stamps - issued by self-declared States, and other items, as well as information about such states.

... And stamps with owls, owls are the best! :D
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How about going to this post and say hello to the experienced Stampboarders?

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TimurNN, as you are a new member of Stampboards, your identity remains mostly unknown.
How about going to this post and say hello to the experienced Stampboarders?
https://stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10277&start=24800
Yes of course
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2 postage envelopes from a large series (40 types) dedicated to great sailors
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2 postage envelopes from a large series (40 types) dedicated to great sailors
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Can you tell us more about North Barchant, please? I have not heard of this place before.

Не могли бы вы рассказать нам больше о Северном Барханте? Я не слышал об этом месте раньше.

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Panterra wrote:
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TimurNN wrote:
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2 postage envelopes from a large series (40 types) dedicated to great sailors
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Can you tell us more about North Barchant, please? I have not heard of this place before.

Не могли бы вы рассказать нам больше о Северном Барханте? Я не слышал об этом месте раньше.

ᠨᠣᠷᠲ ᠪᠠᠷᠴᠠᠩᠲᠤ ᠶᠢᠨ ᠲᠠᠯ᠎ᠠ ᠪᠠᠷ ᠳᠡᠯᠭᠡᠷᠡᠩᠭᠦᠢ ᠮᠡᠳᠡᠭᠡᠯᠡᠯ ᠥᠭᠭᠦᠬᠦ ᠦᠭᠡᠢ ᠤᠤ? ᠪᠢ ᠡᠮᠦᠨ᠎ᠡ ᠨᠢ ᠡᠨᠡ ᠭᠠᠵᠠᠷ ᠢ ᠰᠣᠨᠣᠰᠴᠤ ᠪᠠᠶᠢᠭ᠎ᠠ ᠦᠭᠡᠢ᠃
http://barchant.org - official site

This series of postage envelopes, maximum cards, art stamps was issued in the fall of 2020. The issue is associated with an expedition to the Japanеse sea, which was organized in honor of the 5th anniversary of the Kingdom.
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I do - I collect State of Oman and Dhufar, and have a comprehensive collection of 5.000 to 6.000 postally used covers, plus all the stamps (mostly complete sheets), some of the art work and also some of the offset printing plates.

Just a complement to my comprehensive Oman collection which starts with India used abroad in Muscat and ends with the current Sultanate of Oman.

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I do - I collect State of Oman and Dhufar, and have a comprehensive collection of 5.000 to 6.000 postally used covers, plus all the stamps (mostly complete sheets), some of the art work and also some of the offset printing plates.

Just a complement to my comprehensive Oman collection which starts with India used abroad in Muscat and ends with the current Sultanate of Oman.

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Do you have 5000-6000 postage stamps of these two states only? :?:
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Do you have 5000-6000 postage stamps of these two states only? :?:
The number of stamps I have from these two areas probably exceeds 100.000. As I mentioned, I often have complete sheets. The number 5000 to 6000 refers to the (mostly) postally used covers franked with State of Oman or Dhufar stamps in my collection.

As for the legitimate stamps of the sultanate of Oman, I have probably much, much less stamps than 100.000, but the number of covers is far higher than the 10.000.

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TimurNN wrote:
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Do you have 5000-6000 postage stamps of these two states only? :?:
The number of stamps I have from these two areas probably exceeds 100.000. As I mentioned, I often have complete sheets. The number 5000 to 6000 refers to the (mostly) postally used covers franked with State of Oman or Dhufar stamps in my collection.

As for the legitimate stamps of the sultanate of Oman, I have probably much, much less stamps than 100.000, but the number of covers is far higher than the 10.000.

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Whoa! I don't know much about Oman and I admire their "performance" and your collection!
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TimurNN wrote:
28 Dec 2020 04:21
jduester wrote:
28 Dec 2020 04:18
TimurNN wrote:
28 Dec 2020 04:03

Do you have 5000-6000 postage stamps of these two states only? :?:
The number of stamps I have from these two areas probably exceeds 100.000. As I mentioned, I often have complete sheets. The number 5000 to 6000 refers to the (mostly) postally used covers franked with State of Oman or Dhufar stamps in my collection.

As for the legitimate stamps of the sultanate of Oman, I have probably much, much less stamps than 100.000, but the number of covers is far higher than the 10.000.

Cheers
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Whoa! I don't know much about Oman and I admire their "performance" and your collection!
I started collecting this area in 1967 (after being a bit bored with collecting Germany and Austria since 1963), and I have also lived and worked in Oman, so all this has been piling upover a long time. And I often visited the late Clive Feigenbaum who was involved with the designing and printing of the State of Oman and Dhufar material.

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jduester wrote:
28 Dec 2020 07:25
TimurNN wrote:
28 Dec 2020 04:21
jduester wrote:
28 Dec 2020 04:18
TimurNN wrote:
28 Dec 2020 04:03

Do you have 5000-6000 postage stamps of these two states only? :?:
The number of stamps I have from these two areas probably exceeds 100.000. As I mentioned, I often have complete sheets. The number 5000 to 6000 refers to the (mostly) postally used covers franked with State of Oman or Dhufar stamps in my collection.

As for the legitimate stamps of the sultanate of Oman, I have probably much, much less stamps than 100.000, but the number of covers is far higher than the 10.000.

Cheers
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Whoa! I don't know much about Oman and I admire their "performance" and your collection!
I started collecting this area in 1967 (after being a bit bored with collecting Germany and Austria since 1963), and I have also lived and worked in Oman, so all this has been piling upover a long time. And I often visited the late Clive Feigenbaum who was involved with the designing and printing of the State of Oman and Dhufar material.

Cheers
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but it would be appropriate to ask: why Oman?)
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Re: Who collects the fantasy stamps of self-declared States?

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TimurNN wrote:
28 Dec 2020 12:01

but it would be appropriate to ask: why Oman?)
Well, why not Oman? I developed a general interest in the history and culture of Oman in the 1960s, and as a young stamp collector, it was only natural then to collect stamps of Oman. I believe one at the attractions for me was that Oman was, unlike now, a little known country, almost forgotten by the rest of the world.
Collecting anything related to Oman. This includes India used in Muscat and Gwadur, British overprints used in Muscat,
Muscat & Oman, Sultanate of Oman, rebel issues State of Oman & Dhufar. And also non-philatelic material!

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Re: Who collects the fantasy stamps of self-declared States?

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jduester wrote:
28 Dec 2020 22:40
TimurNN wrote:
28 Dec 2020 12:01

but it would be appropriate to ask: why Oman?)
Well, why not Oman? I developed a general interest in the history and culture of Oman in the 1960s, and as a young stamp collector, it was only natural then to collect stamps of Oman. I believe one at the attractions for me was that Oman was, unlike now, a little known country, almost forgotten by the rest of the world.
In this case, the personal story is the most interesting. There are many collectors in Russia who collect German coins, for example. Moreover, these people have never been to Germany and even Europe:)
I usually collect coins and banknotes, but when it comes to stamps with owls or postage stamps issued by fantastic, self-proclaimed, micronations and virtual states (Seborga, Lundy, Sealand, Hutt River, Wirtland and others), then this is what I need.

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Re: Who collects the fantasy stamps of self-declared States?

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If someone wants to receive such a postcard with a set of stamps, then I am ready to exchange for something
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History of psychology - 4 famous Russian psychologists, whose anniversaries were in 2020
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+2 postal envelopes
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Musograd from my collection
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3 stamps from Occussi-Ambeno
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