Australia KGVI Definitive Stamps Plate Varieties 1936-1952

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Re: Australia KGVI Definitives Plate Varieties 1936-1952

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4d Koala, 1938-1957 No Watermark, Perf. 14.75 x 14

Colour spot below right border right of last "A" of "AUSTRALIA". ACSC 199h, SG 230a(var)

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From the right hand pane of Sheet C, position 8/6.

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4d Koala, 1938-1957 No Watermark, Perf. 14.75 x 14
Colour in last white border segment at top right ACSC 199i, SG 230a(var)
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From the right hand pane of an unknown sheet, position 3/5 or 4/5 or 5/5. The ACSC notes that this is a roller flaw found on three units in the fifth column of a right pane.

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4d Koala, 1938-1957 No Watermark, Perf. 14.75 x 14
Retouch to four lines below first "A of "AUSTRALIA", ACSC 199ja, SG 230a(var)
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Re: Australia KGVI Definitives Plate Varieties 1936-1952

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Hey Philip, you have some great examples there. Very nice example of the misplaced perfs block. It looks like the 199g has a dot like the 199h does or are my eyes playing tricks on me? Can we get stamps with more than one variety or flaw?

The retouches are much harder to spot and get right, unlike the other flaws.

Thanks for the posts Philip, really nice to see.

I'm putting up a few of mine. First one a 198h.

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199i

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199f block.

Anyone know the value for this stamp on a corner imprint block of 4? The ASCS is $225 for a single mint stamp.

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I don't have the most current ACSC for KGVI but the one I do have would suggest that your imprint block is 198 not 199. 199 is the no watermark version.

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Yes you are right, it has a wmk and is a 198f, my mistake.

Thanks for the correction satsuma.

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198f = $225
199f = $125
You have the better one 8)

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Thanks GUTTERS.

I have some kookaburra's to show and hopefully get some answers to some questions I have.

The first one is a corner block of four, and the stamp have a lot of patchy shading lines around the kookaburra, all of my other kooka's have very even shading lines. What do people think?

Perf: 14.75 x 14, water marked C of A.

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My seconded one is another corner block of four.

The flaw is in the imprint, first line, look at that "E" in "THE". Also look at the first "T" in AUTHORITY.

I have seen some "E" flaws before on the kooka's but not as skewiff like this one.

Anyone have any of these E's.

Perf: 14.75 x14. Watermarked C of A.

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Yes another corner block of four Kookaburra's.

This one has a lot of lines, I think they call them roller lines, not sure.

Perf:14.75 x 14 watermarked C of A.

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Ok a single Kookaburra, this one I find interesting. It has a big dot, and I have no idea how this thing was produced on my stamp.

Also the top half of the six has some ink missing.

This is the stamp I really want to know more about. What do you people think?

Perf: 13.5 x 14 watermarked C of A.

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matthux wrote:Thanks GUTTERS.

I have some kookaburra's to show and hopefully get some answers to some questions I have.

The first one is a corner block of four, and the stamp have a lot of patchy shading lines around the kookaburra, all of my other kooka's have very even shading lines. What do people think?

Perf: 14.75 x 14, water marked C of A.

Thanks Matt.

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Matt,

It is not clear to which lines you refer. Perhaps you could provide a close up of the "patchy lines" next to a close up of the "very even" lines so that we can see the potential flaw.

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matthux wrote:My seconded one is another corner block of four.

The flaw is in the imprint, first line, look at that "E" in "THE". Also look at the first "T" in AUTHORITY.

I have seen some "E" flaws before on the kooka's but not as skewiff like this one.

Anyone have any of these E's.

Perf: 14.75 x14. Watermarked C of A.

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Extensive recutting of the imprint occurred on this stamp - ACSC 203zg and 203zh.

To quote, "The recutting of the imprints occurred on Electro 7, and corrected a general weakness in the centre of the imprint. Variety ze (sic) is from the left pane of Sheet A, and shows IN of PRINTED heavily recut. Variety zf (sic) is from the left pane of Sheet C, and shows HE AUT of THE AUTHORITY and MM and NW of COMMONWEALTH heavily recut".

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matthux wrote:Ok a single Kookaburra, this one I find interesting. It has a big dot, and I have no idea how this thing was produced on my stamp.

Also the top half of the six has some ink missing.

This is the stamp I really want to know more about. What do you people think?

Perf: 13.5 x 14 watermarked C of A.

Thanks Matt.

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The dot is almost surely due to some foreign matter adhering for a short time to the electro. Have a look at the ACSC, particularly ACSC 204l "colour spot in front of breast" and 204n "colour spot in front of breast" for other examples that must have lasted for some time through the printing process for them to be recognised as constant.

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4d Koala, 1938-1957 No Watermark, Perf. 14.75 x 14
Re-entry below bottom frame, ACSC 199d, SG 230a(var)
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Nice stamp Philip, it got me looking through my stamps and the only re-entry I could find is this Emu.

Re-entry top frame at right. ACSC 232h.

Stamp is mint but is a bit dirty and has some toning spots.

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Found a few more Emu's.

The first one is a ACSC 232i.

Re-entry to top frame at left. And seems to be a bit of a re-entry above "AL" in Australia.

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And the second is a ACSC 232g.

Re-entry at top left and to "AU" of Australia.

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My Patchy shading lines on the kookaburra are on the left and what seems to be normal on the right.

In the ACSC the kooka 204g seems to have this sort of patchy shading, but the 204g has no wmk, and my stamp has a wmk.

Just trying to work this one out.

Thanks Matt.

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matthux wrote:My seconded one is another corner block of four.

The flaw is in the imprint, first line, look at that "E" in "THE". Also look at the first "T" in AUTHORITY.

I have seen some "E" flaws before on the kooka's but not as skewiff like this one.

Anyone have any of these E's.

Perf: 14.75 x14. Watermarked C of A.

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Extensive recutting of the imprint occurred on this stamp - ACSC 203zg and 203zh.

To quote, "The recutting of the imprints occurred on Electro 7, and corrected a general weakness in the centre of the imprint. Variety ze (sic) is from the left pane of Sheet A, and shows IN of PRINTED heavily recut. Variety zf (sic) is from the left pane of Sheet C, and shows HE AUT of THE AUTHORITY and MM and NW of COMMONWEALTH heavily recut".

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Thanks Philip, I should not have missed this one. I think I was focusing on the "E" to much, and another letter I've noticed is the "T"s can look a bit like a cross, I've seen this on other kooka imprints too.

Thanks Matt.

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This is my Kookaburra Reddish Brown ACSC 203h, Scratch through "ALIA" of AUSTRALIA.

The ACSC values for a normal 203 standard used stamp differ,

Reddish Brown $2

Other Brown $1.

The list price for a used ACSC 203h is $50, but shouldn't this price differ depending on what colour ink is used.

For example if a used Brown ACSC 203h is $50, shouldn't the used Reddish Brown ACSC 203h be worth more than $50?

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I have noticed in my ACSC, the book lists this stamp in the 203 section but on the example picture it has 204h and no 203h under the picture. I think they might have forgot to put that in.

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Hi everyone, I have an ACSC 178k to show.

It's the top left stamp and the line seems it might be extended across to the top right stamp, but it has a break in it, and the line gets fainter.

All four stamps seem to have a lot of roller shift ( I think that's the correct term ) of varying degrees.

The top frame with extended lines pointing up at the corners.

Roller shift on "postage".

Hair on roo's back standing up.

Hairy paws.

Roller shift on top of numerals.

Roller shift on top of Australia.

I'm sorry about the low quality of my scans, I can only do 600 dpi at this point.

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Hi all, got some stamps yesterday and it was what I was hoping for.

A ACSC 199j Mint Unhinged on a block of 15, and it is on the margin.

And the block also has a ACSC 199i on the same bottom row.

I am told there are no known ACSC 199j Mint Unhinged stamps, but here's one.

The 199j has a big dot under the first A of Australia.

The 199i has a roller flaw inside the top right frame.

Any comments?

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This is a ACSC 198e.

There is a roller shift at the bottom frame, letters and numerals, and also at the top of the frame and Australia.

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This is a ACSC 256g.

It is a re-entry to Australia and bottom frame.

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This is a ACSC 276d.

Bottom right stamp has a spot in margin under "L" of "POSTAL".

An imprint left corner block of 4 is a ACSC 276z.

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Here is a mint unhinged "man with tail", I used a digital microscope to do the close-up. The bottom pic is the block of 20 I have in my collection which shows the three main varieties, "Man with tail", "Pantaloon" and "Koala in tree", I added the names on the image to show where they are, the block of 20 is MUH.


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1d green Queen Elizabeth die II

ACSC 182cb "white face"

"white face" (ink stripping) on left, normal on right

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ACSC 182 (unlisted roller flaw)

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2d scarlet King George VI die II

ACSC 188c "white face"

"white face" (ink stripping) on left, normal on right

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Sadly the alleged "Roller Flaws" are tiny transient ink smears, not unusual on any recess printed stamp.

The alleged ''ink stripping'' are both heavily bleached used stamps.

Ebay Rareetees I am quite sure, but of no consequence philatelic wise.
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Thanks for the information GA, knocks those ones out of my varieties folder!
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“Koala in tree” – SG (not listed). ACSC $250[/centre]
SG Editor is chasing me for something easy to ID to list and illustrate for next Aust Cat.

I already sent him ''Broken Rifle Butt'' on 1940 AIF.

My next thought is the ''Koala Up Tree'' which is rare but not recognised thus as really rare (yet!) in ACSC.

If Rod or anyone who has one, can do a sharp scan of the relevant area and post that here, I can pass it on.

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Thanks to Rob now have a good scan to pas onto SG - of Koala Up Tree - does ANYONE else here own one?

Agree with comments above it is far scarcer than ''Man With Tail.''
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Hi came across this thread only yesterday and have found it to be very helpful.

One of my varieties to share.

ACSC271dx, £2 Green Coat of Arms overprinted SPECIMEN with Roller flaw below “E” of “Postage”

Unfortunately it does have a small thin :( , but to be honest I never thought I would own one. :shock:

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Hi all, hear I have a 1d QE ASCS 245zb block of 8. Flush perforations on right side of sheet.
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This is a 2 1/2d surcharge ASAC 222d Medallion Flaw. I'm glad the surcharge is not covering up the flaw.

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This is a mis-guillotined 3d Brown imprint block not listed but mentioned in the ASAC 2015 edition.

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Re: Australia KGVI Definitive Stamps Plate Varieties 1936-1952

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This is a ASAC 180zf, this one has a paper fold with extra perforations. The ASAC lists a partly imperforate due to paper fold, but this one has no imperforated stamp. How common are these ones?
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Re: Australia KGVI Definitive Stamps Plate Varieties 1936-1952

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Found this one a while ago and thought I'd post it. It's a 2d mauve strip of 4 with a joiner and has false coils (false coils are normal perfs, not large and small perfs). It is not listed but mentioned in the ASAC 2015 edition because these are said to be easily faked. Have no idea if this is real or not.

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Re: Australia KGVI Definitive Stamps Plate Varieties 1936-1952

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Thanks to everyone for their contributions, apologies for not keeping the thread updated as much as I might have done.

Just to clarify, the purpose of this thread, as per the thread title, is to illustrate plate varieties, so perforation variants, guillotining errors, coils etc do not fall under the thread remit.

I should also clarify that the thread is intended only for varieties listed in the ACSC, so random/transient/imaginary fly-specks/freaks are also not on the wants list. If you look at the posts on page 1, I have created a post for each stamp, with each post detailing the listed flaws on that stamp - these are what we're after.

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Re: Australia KGVI Definitive Stamps Plate Varieties 1936-1952

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What is the ''ASAC'' referred to often above?
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Robes 1PD Thin Block 4 - RH plate pip.jpg


Here is something just loaded today I have never owned - or even seen, in over 40 years of dealing. (Stock 627KG)

It was part of the top RH corner block of 8, and I sold the top RH corner last week, and so this is row 3 and 4.

ACSC does not show the plate pip and as a SINGLE many would not know what they look like so now we do!

Often the plate pips in KGVI era are very large and often deeply coloured.
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Australia 1949 £1 “Robes” THIN unsurfaced paper, Superb MUH Plate Pip Block 4: Attractive AMAZINGLY WELL CENTRED block. Incredibly fresh, white, “printed yesterday” gum - been in Boston all its life. This is the scarce ordinary, unsurfaced “THIN” paper. In my view this is THE most undervalued Australian stamp post war, see www.tinyurl.com/ThinRobe

This top value on the un-announced "Thin" paper was first issued only in April 1949, and was replaced in latter 1949 by the £1 "Arms", so usage was truly minimal – a few months. Much of that use was on telegrams, and for bulk postage payments. Only 10% of this paper was sold as the common “Thick” paper £1 - yet prices are similar, weirdly. SG 178a.

Indeed, only 160,000 were ever printed in just a single printing, of this £1 1949 "Thin" paper - versus 1,920,000 of the “Thick” (Chalky surfaced) issue of 1937. This is the VERY rare Plate Pip right margin block 4, ACSC 217ba, $A1,500. Have NEVER owned one before. Is Row 3, as it was a Block 8 and I sold off the top RH corner block.

£4 was a FORTUNE back then - 52 years ago this was a MASSIVE sum. A first class letter was only 2½d. So £4 (960 pence) bought 384 of those stamps - or taking today’s $1.50 first class letter rate as a current yardstick, this block cost $A576 in today’s money relativity.

The AVERAGE annual UK gross wage in UK 1950, was just £100 - I kid you not - www.tinyurl.com/UKwage - around TWO quid a week gross before tax. FACT. (And paid annual leave was typically just ONE week!) That was the average national gross wage, not the minimum wage, and ours were similar.

So this block literally cost someone near a fortnights GROSS wages - a $2,000 piece on today’s earning power. My typical stock levels over the past 30 years of around ten to one, are borne out rather perfectly by the printing figures above. Yet retail is the SAME for both! Insane.
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Re: Australia KGVI Definitive Stamps Plate Varieties 1936-1952

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Aust KGVI White Faces x 2 11-20.jpg (2).jpg

Added this cool pair to stock today from a nice KGVI collection. :lol:

Australia KGVI heads with spectacular Ink Stripping: Both are ACSC listed of course. 1938 3d Blue, Die 2, on the ordinary (so called “thin” paper) fresh MVLH with incredibly severe ink stripping of face and wattles. Amazing. ACSC 194c $A175 as hinged. And also the 1942 2½d Red KGVI with “ACSC “White Face” variety, also with striking ink stripping as per ACSC notes. Fresh MUH, ACSC 230c Cat $275. (Comes along with a normal stamp for comparison) Never had either before and clearly are both VERY scarce. Cat $450, and cheap at just $A200 (Stock 485DH)

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