Copyright royalty tax stamps on Records/Pianola Rolls Discussion

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And some European items.
AMMRE Germany pre-1910 (two perfinned "DGA" for Deutsche Grammophon Aktiengesellschaft who pressed Zonophone and handstamped with publishing firms' names), and Columbia Spanish 1930s.
Ammre type 1a 1907 "Schulberth & Co"
Ammre type 1a 1907 "Schulberth & Co"
Ammre type 1a 1908 "Carl Rühle's Musikverlag"
Ammre type 1a 1908 "Carl Rühle's Musikverlag"
Ammre type 12b 1909
Ammre type 12b 1909
Columbia type S2b CORRIENTE 1930s
Columbia type S2b CORRIENTE 1930s
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I should note that the dates above for the AMMRE stamps are for the original issue of the records. As AMMRE wasn't formed until 1909 they are obviously on slightly later re-pressings, which was not uncommon. Some records remained in the catalogue for many years.
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Ernest Worton David (1872-1940) started his own music publishing firm in 1924, after breaking from Lawrence Wright (Horatio Nicholls).

The ¾d is quite rare, especially with the red font variation. The one on the Scala Ideal label isn't in the best condition but creates an attractive colour combination.
Worton David ¾d on 1925 Scala Ideal
Worton David ¾d on 1925 Scala Ideal
Worton David ¾d, both font colours
Worton David ¾d, both font colours
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Copyright royalty stamps can also be found on the boxes for cylinder records, but are not common. Obviously they could not be affixed to the cylinders themselves. All my copies shown here are on the base of the box but I have seen in the past an image of one affixed to the side of the box - can anyone supply an image?

Edison was the first to issue these commercially from 1889,and kept with them for owners of the players into the 1920s.
Edison Blue Amberol cylinder box
Edison Blue Amberol cylinder box
Pre-1910 French Pathe cylinders with Agence Generale stamps.
Agence Generale 6a Jeny on Pathe
Agence Generale 6a Jeny on Pathe
Agence Generale 7aV Vives on Pathe
Agence Generale 7aV Vives on Pathe
Post-1912 UK issues, all from The Copyright Protection Society.
TCPS 1d purple Enoch HS
TCPS 1d purple Enoch HS
TCPS 1d purple Chappell HS
TCPS 1d purple Chappell HS
TCPS 1d purple Chappell HS
TCPS 1d purple Chappell HS
TCPS 1 ½d yellow-green CHAPPELL HS
TCPS 1 ½d yellow-green CHAPPELL HS
TCPS 2d green Chappell MS on Amberol
TCPS 2d green Chappell MS on Amberol
TCPS 2 ½d brown on green
TCPS 2 ½d brown on green
TCPS 2 ¾d red Chap MS
TCPS 2 ¾d red Chap MS
c.1923-4 for sale in Australia
Chappell London & Sydney 2 ½d MS
Chappell London & Sydney 2 ½d MS
J. Albert & Son 2 ½d
J. Albert & Son 2 ½d
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Listing J. Albert & Son Pty Ltd continued, set 430B. 1942-65.
As 430A - perf 11, sans-serif font but chalk-surfaced.
430B ½d
430B ½d
430B ⅞d
430B ⅞d
430B 1¼d
430B 1¼d
430B 1¼d a. dropped dot
430B 1¼d a. dropped dot
430B 1½d
430B 1½d
430B 1½d a. yellow-green signature & value
430B 1½d a. yellow-green signature & value
430B 1⅝d
430B 1⅝d
430B 1⅝d fugitive green
430B 1⅝d fugitive green
430B 1¾d
430B 1¾d
430B 2½d
430B 2½d
430B 2⅝d
430B 2⅝d
430B 2¾d
430B 2¾d
430B 2⅞d
430B 2⅞d
430B 3¼d
430B 3¼d
430B 4⅜d
430B 4⅜d
430B 8½d
430B 8½d
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This is atypical for a private sticker, so I was wondering if it could be copyright related?
Verdi was published by Ricordi which fits with the first part of the hand writing
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Seuk wrote: 07 May 2023 08:40 This is atypical for a private sticker, so I was wondering if it could be copyright related?
Verdi was published by Ricordi which fits with the first part of the hand writing
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The Verdi H/S from the previous post is also seen on other stamps, in this case Ricordi.
Ricordi Germany with Verdi H/S
Ricordi Germany with Verdi H/S
These "blue frame" copyright stamps are not uncommon, especially on some South American records, or European records exported there. There's a wide variety of frame designs and overprints/manuscripts.
Mignone
Mignone
Fernandez
Fernandez
Robledo
Robledo
Eduardo Arolas
Eduardo Arolas
C Allende
C Allende
Various Blue Frame copyright stamps
Various Blue Frame copyright stamps
And very rarely on sheet music, in this case from Chile.
Blue frame on Chilean Sheet Music
Blue frame on Chilean Sheet Music
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That seems settled then. Perhaps the corrected 2 (to 1) is due to the record being one-sided?

I've now compiled all the stamps I've found so far having overprints/stamps/writing relating to Denmark. The values 6,25 and 12,50 øre are the most common but 7,50 and 10 øre also appears. Others are just stamped Sk (Skandinavia, which is most likely referring to the forerunner of NCB) or with W.H. or Wilhelm Hansen, who were the main publisher in Denmark.
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Seuk wrote: 25 May 2023 04:54 That seems settled then. Perhaps the corrected 2 (to 1) is due to the record being one-sided?

I've now compiled all the stamps I've found so far having overprints/stamps/writing relating to Denmark. The values 6,25 and 12,50 øre are the most common but 7,50 and 10 øre also appears. Others are just stamped Sk (Skandinavia, which is most likely referring to the forerunner of NCB) or with W.H. or Wilhelm Hansen, who were the main publisher in Denmark.
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Thanks seuk, it's great to see such a range from one country. New items noted for the 3rd Edition.
Hopefully other collectors in Sweden and Finland can find similar ranges.

Meantime here's a nice duo of Pathé stamps recently acquired, on a record destined for Spain.
Also a great item for a Bird thematic collector!
Pathé stamps on Spanish Disco Pathé
Pathé stamps on Spanish Disco Pathé
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The similar 12" UK Columbia 78s, all with Mecolico ⅞d provisional values.
All are in the 300 serial number series and of Gilbert & Sullivan operetta material, but the third is a later re-press under a later label style. The matrix numbers (62xx, 63xx) were originally recorded 1912-13.

The first two are pre-WW1 issues.
Mecolico ⅞d typeset
Mecolico ⅞d typeset
Mecolico ⅞d manuscript
Mecolico ⅞d manuscript
While this one is probably mid-1920s.
Mecolico ⅞d typewritten
Mecolico ⅞d typewritten
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