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How bad is the counterfeiting of modern United States forever stamps? Well, bad enough that Scott catalog editors made the move to publish a new book focused just on counterfeits.
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The new 2023 Scott Specialized Catalogue of United States Counterfeits is the essential reference work for collectors of United States counterfeit stamp issues. It is also the go-to reference for users of postage stamps who want to know the differences between authentic postage stamps and counterfeits of a given issue.

Postal counterfeits and nonpostal and revenue counterfeits are listed in separate sections.

Counterfeiting of United States forever stamps increased exponentially in 2021 with most new issues being faked. Scott catalog editors have noted within the Postage section of the Scott Specialized Catalogue of United States Stamps and Covers what stamp issues are known to exist as counterfeits and have placed that information in footnotes.

Because of the large number of new counterfeit forever stamps (more than 300 major Scott catalog numbers in the last year), Scott editors decided to only list denominated and earlier counterfeits in the 2023 Scott U.S. Specialized catalog.

No forever or postcard-rate counterfeits are included in the 2023 U.S. Specialized catalog from the years 2007 to date.

The counterfeit forever stamps are included in this new catalog and also in the U.S. Specialized digital catalog.

If only denominated counterfeit issues were listed, this new print catalog would only be 17 pages long. With the explosion of forever counterfeit issues, it is 97 pages. And more counterfeits have already been reported as the catalog was heading to press.

To order the new book, which is item No. 23FAKE, or access the U.S. Specialized digital catalog, visit the Amos Advantage website.


Price is US$19.99, cover price US$24.99
2023 Scott Specialized Catalogue of United States Counterfeits (cover)
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Interesting summary Ian. 8-)

I read Wayne Youngblood saying this month that USPS have now risen from their slumber, and they have now got eBay to FINALLY crack down on the overt listings of these.

Total laziness on their part - they SHOULD have done this several years back. Must have cost them billions so far.

The days of them being offered on FakeBay by the I0,000 lots, by low feedback sellers, seem to have gone -

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=forever+stamp ... ed&_sop=16
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They were being offered widely on etsy and other platforms, with 'Ship from China' in the description.

To use one of your own, "you couldn't make it up"!

I looked at one Etsy seller who had a small note which also had this message: it wasn't a clickable link but this is the site.
Please visit our π˜„π—²π—―π˜€π—Άπ˜π—² to get free shipping and up to 50% discount.
πŸ‘‰ UsStamp.co
So i did:
Screenshot Website of UsStamp.Co
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Looks good, even authentic? Except that the USPS has repeatedly said that they don't sell stamps at a discount, ever.

Contact details:

CONTACT US

Add:Β 7610 Beverly Blvd, Los Angeles, CA, 90048
Tel: (626)800-5594 (Only Message)

Mail: [email protected]


Address is a genuine USPS post office - but not with that phone number or email.

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Should be easy to knock out for an organisation as big as the USPS and other agencies over there. Bet it's still there next week, and next month, though.
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It is possible to rent a p o box but give the street address of the post office instead of a P O Box number.

USPS allows it to business clients for a fee. They even accept Fedex, etc, for the po boxes. This is a way to get around the "street address only" requirements that are quite widespread in the USA.
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50% Off -- now that is cheeky. :evil:
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Number-O-Ne wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023 04:33 It is possible to rent a p o box but give the street address of the post office instead of a P O Box number.

USPS allows it to business clients for a fee. They even accept Fedex, etc, for the po boxes. This is a way to get around the "street address only" requirements that are quite widespread in the USA.
I'm not sure how that's relevant, I must have missed something.
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norvic wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023 07:13
Number-O-Ne wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023 04:33 It is possible to rent a p o box but give the street address of the post office instead of a P O Box number.

USPS allows it to business clients for a fee. They even accept Fedex, etc, for the po boxes. This is a way to get around the "street address only" requirements that are quite widespread in the USA.
I'm not sure how that's relevant, I must have missed something.
Here, from above message:

"Contact details:

CONTACT US

Add: 7610 Beverly Blvd, Los Angeles, CA, 90048
Tel: (626)800-5594 (Only Message)

Mail: [email protected]

Address is a genuine USPS post office - but not with that phone number or email."


A company that sells "stamps" gives the address of a post office for contact. They are abusing the system, and I explained how it could be possible.
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They don't quote a PO Box number but I see your point.

However, similar scams in this country also give live addresses for Royal Mail depots - usually delivery offices.
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norvic wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023 03:15Price is US$19.99, cover price US$24.99
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Starting my clock for some troll in the PRC to be selling fake copies on eBay at $14.99 to help support their "industry"...
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:lol: :lol:
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faro wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023 09:52
norvic wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023 03:15Price is US$19.99, cover price US$24.99
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Starting my clock for some troll in the PRC to be selling fake copies on eBay at $14.99 to help support their "industry"...
It will be scanned as a PDF file and sold on ebay for US$2.99 within the next six months, can almost guarantee it.
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Scott can issue a new catalogue next year...

Got this personal message today on facebook:
Note the bad English...
Note the bad English...
100x 2023 US Flag Forever stamps for $17.99? Yeah right!

Clearly a fake profile selling fake US Forever stamps.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100088232499699

I reported him for spam, fraude and fake profile.
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It's similar to this one sent through eBay's message system, which was reported to me by a reader:

Offer of discounted stamps sent through eBay message system from member in mainland China or Hong Kong.
Offer of discounted stamps sent through eBay message system from member in mainland China or Hong Kong.
These were the stamps sent to my contact (which I have reported elsewhere, and to Royal Mail security).

Forged Great Britain stamps.
Forged Great Britain stamps.
Forged Great Britain stamps.
Forged Great Britain stamps.
Forged Great Britain stamps.
Forged Great Britain stamps.
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