Help please with watermark ID on Italy stamps circa 1952 Democratic.

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Help please with watermark ID on Italy stamps circa 1952 Democratic.

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Help Please with Italian Stamps circa 1952 Democratic series.(Sassone 564)

With Lettering on Watermark side most likely from Selvedge Edge Notation.

I purchased a box of charity stamps some years ago and only recently got to look at them only to find on the reverse beside the Winged Wheel Wmk there are some + extra letters (see Photos).
I presume these are on the Selvedge and are used as a guide for the Printers in their layout.

I spent considerable time on the Net looking for information on these but to no avail Auctions/Ebay/Dealers.
Tony Clayton’s excellent Italian site is the only one I have seen that mentions the lettering out of many that I have looked at

I’m looking to see what the current Auction sale value is but nothing comes up. Any help would be much appreciated

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Re: Help Please with Italian Stamps circa 1952 Democratic.(Sassone 564)

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hello,

The 'letter watermark' is well known for Italian specialized collectors of the first Republic's period. The letters can be seen with several percentages from 0% to 100%.

Your stamp is a good one with 100% visibility, quotations you can find on Sassone specialized catalogue

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Thank you for your help Andy66

Do they publish english Version?

I Can't speak or/read Italian.

Any-Body Got a copy of Sassone specialized catalogue


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Re: Help Please with Italian Stamps circa 1952 Democratic.(Sassone 564)

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I have Sassone. I "cannot read" Italian. That doesn't stop me reading. I can understand more than half what they say. Basic vocabulary is limited. Google translate and similar services help, too. Images help, too.
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Thanks Kuikka.

I was hoping for information as to cost to see if it was worth the Purchase of the Sassone Catalogue.

Thanks again

Ps: Just found some reversed Watermarks but same lack of detail.
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Re: Help Please with Italian Stamps circa 1952 Democratic.(Sassone 564)

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byker1 wrote: 09 Mar 2024 03:35 Thank you for your help Andy66

Do they publish english Version?

I Can't speak or/read Italian.

Any-Body Got a copy of Sassone specialized catalogue


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Hi,
No, Sassone doesn't publish English version of their catalogues, but I guess there is no difficulty in translating some text, after all catalogues are edited quite similarly worldwide.

Anyway I've got an old copy of the catalogue, still priced in Lire (but prices didn't increase from then...more likely decreased) and your stamp is quoted L.12500 that is around 6 Euros with visible letter watermark. Yours being a 10/10 it could be twice that quotation I suppose.

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Re: Help Please with Italian Stamps circa 1952 Democratic.(Sassone 564)

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Hiya Andrea.

Would it be possible for you to Board post/email me the Date/Year of the Sassone Catalouge
you got the information from?

or maybe a photo/shot of the Detail on the Page.

Many thanks Glenn
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Re: Help Please with Italian Stamps circa 1952 Democratic.(Sassone 564)

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byker1 wrote: 06 Apr 2024 00:41 Hiya Andrea.

Would it be possible for you to Board post/email me the Date/Year of the Sassone Catalouge
you got the information from?

or maybe a photo/shot of the Detail on the Page.

Many thanks Glenn
This is the Sassone specialized catalogue
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and this is the page regarding letters watermarks with quotations also in reference of the position of the wheel watermark
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Re: Help please with watermark ID on Italy stamps circa 1952 Democratic.

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Thank you very very much Andrea for your time and Trouble
very much appreciated.


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