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Now that I have finally figured out how to post images directly onto Stampboards with the help of the instructions from MargoZ I thought that I might bore the other members to tears with my six-frame exhibit of Cape of Good Hope 1853-64.

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Lovely lot Richard, and good to see you have mastered the new direct uploading images ability we now offer!

I love especially the rare Albino Plate Proof on page 1. The ebay forgers will be doing good business in those I can bet. :lol: :lol:


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Lovely lot Richard, and good to see you have mastered the new direct uploading images ability we now offer!

I love especially the rare Albino Plate Proof on page 1. The ebay forgers will be doing good business in those I can bet. :lol: :lol:

Glen, I did apologize for removing that item in my first screwed-up post (thanks for editing), three more frames to go.

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What a superb exhibition effort capetriangle and they deserved to be exhibited as well as they were.

Very well done.
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A superb exhibit, in my view THE exhibit on the COGH triangles.

One question, did the judges make any comment on your listing the provenance of many of the items shown :?:
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All concerned

Now completely uploaded frame by frame (96 pages) less the missing plate proof (but with sore wrists), the work of 50 years collecting resulted in my first International Gold medal. Also consignment to the poor house.

I hope it meets with approval.

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What a cracker, Richard!!! A lovely record of some superb, scarce material.

Well done - sore wrists maybe, poor house???!!!

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Wow! This collection is spectacular. Congrats on the medal. Thanks for sharing!

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Lakatoi 4, Tony

I happen to love provenance so I am going to mention it on every item possible.

It is the former auction describer in me coming out in favor of provenance. It truly is helpful when it is noted on album/exhibit pages. Strangely in my experience those who are opposed to provenance are frequently those lacking items from major collections in their exhibits.

Certainly, one of the judges, a former President of the Royal Philatelic Society London and an RDP, enjoyed seeing the "Besançon" items because he recognized them as new additions to the exhibit - since New York 2016 where the exhibit comprised five frames rather than six and garnered a Large Vermeil. There are approximately 30 items from second "Besançon" sale, together with about 10 other items from other collections to be added to the exhibit for London 2020/22 which will be in eight frames.

Now THE exhibit on COGH triangles was also at Stockholmia 2019, around the corner from mine in fact. That was the exhibit of Joseph Hackmey in eight frames which garnered at Large Gold medal. Incidentally the only one issue that I beat my friend out on was presentation, mine garnering five points to his four.

Quite frankly my exhibit cannot hold a candle to Joseph's exhibit, mine being what I term as an "academic exhibit," plating every stamp possible including a significant number of the Woodblocks and a more detailed approach to postal history with the naming of all vessels carrying mail overseas.

However there are things in my exhibit that Joseph simply does not have such as a complete set of Die Proofs, the only recored cover to the Papal States, the only recorded wreck cover bearing triangulars (to Australia in fact and the subject of a thread on Stampboards) and a block of four of the 1d carmine Woodblock. So occasionally the tortoise wins the race!

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What a cracker, Richard!!! A lovely record of some superb, scarce material.

Well done - sore wrists maybe, poor house???!!!

David.
Many thanks for the kind words, the sore wrists came from uploading (I think that is the term the young people use) the images individually, having never managed to turn a group of them blue without changing the order, duplicating or losing a few.

The exhibit certainly helps to keep me in the poor house in the game of Life. However, I make a point of only spending on stamps what would otherwise be wasted on 'wine, women and song.'

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Wow! This collection is spectacular. Congrats on the medal. Thanks for sharing!
Many thanks for the kind words.

I know I still owe you an answer on the other thread.

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Richard, I've organized a DNA test as I strongly suspect that I am your long lost child. :D
Well I know that I have failed to breed, one of Life's major disappointments.

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The main comment that I would give is to transfer all of the Posthumous Proofs to the end of the exhibit, where they belong.

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What a superb exhibition effort capetriangle and they deserved to be exhibited as well as they were.

Very well done.
Many thanks for the kind words.

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The main comment that I would give is to transfer all of the Posthumous Proofs to the end of the exhibit, where they belong.

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The likely next exhibit will be at London 2020/22, assuming that I do not make Cape Town 2021 which is yet to be decided. It will be an eight frame and will include the rectangulars (the first 11 stamps) up until the first significant rate change on 1 November 1879, the reduction of the basic inland rate from 4d to 3d.

Now would your suggestion be to place what will most likely be termed Posthumous (modern) Die Proofs and Posthumous (defaced) Die Proofs at the end of the triangular section or at the end of the exhibit itself. I need the almost one frame of the rectangulars to make it to the eight frames.

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Richard,

Personally I would stick to the Triangles and leave the Hope Seated in another exhibit especially if you enter Cape Town Exhibition I don't know your Hope Seated exhibit but it would be compared to the Exhibit which has one many Large Gold's.

If you intend to include the Posthumous Proofs then after the issued stamps. Most probably chronologically would be best but you have to make the decision.

I would presume you would get a higher award and less criticism if you left them at home and only show proofing material relevant to the issuance of the stamps.

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Transferred from the Newfoundland 1857 8d Die Proof thread

Richard,

did the Judge say, back of the exhibit or back of a page,

will check the exhibit later today.

At first glance I did not like a page showing the addressee and the addressee's house. Looks pretty and you may get away with it in a Postal History exhibit but not in a Traditional.

It reminded me of Gerald Ellott's British Naval exhibit with descriptions of where the sailor served and on what ships and all sorts of non philatelic comments. It got him a very low award. It is OK in an Auction description and for non competitive exhibits.

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It was to the back of the exhibit.

Incidentally the same judge did point out that I had gone overboard on the social history aspects in the exhibit, referring to the readdressed Papal States cover and possibly some of the Larksworthy correpondence covers.

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The last paragraph I find absolutely fascinating.

"Lady Knatchbull (1793-1882) known as Fanny Knight was author Jane Austen's niece and the wife of Sir Edward Knatchbull, a British politician during the Sir Robert Peel ministry, 1841-45."

Now I believe that the stamps on cover in a traditional exhibit should be written up to the fullest extents of postal history and even social history. This is going to stay in my exhibits irrespective of what it does to the marking of them. Remember there was a time in the U.S. when advertising covers were not allowed in postal history exhibits.

I am not aware of Gerald Ellot's British Naval exhibit so cannot comment.

Incidentally I am going to have to rewrite the page anyway to correct the typo referring to the stamp as a pair rather than a single.

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Richard,

Personally I would stick to the Triangles and leave the Hope Seated in another exhibit especially if you enter Cape Town Exhibition I don't know your Hope Seated exhibit but it would be compared to the Exhibit which has one many Large Gold's.

If you intend to include the Posthumous Proofs then after the issued stamps. Most probably chronologically would be best but you have to make the decision.

I would presume you would get a higher award and less criticism if you left them at home and only show proofing material relevant to the issuance of the stamps.

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I thought you might say that.

However the exhibit cannot stretch to eight frames without the addition of at least some of the rectangulars and the use of the 1 November 1879 rate change seems to me to provide the most interesting and logical stopping point.

Dr. Keith Klugman in his fabulous Natal exhibits has essentially stopped mid-Nineteenth Century (almost 1890 if I recall correctly) and not diluted the importance of the Embossed and Chalons earlier in the exhibit. So it can be done.

The collection was exhibited nationally at Cape Town 2015 in eight frames - five frames of triangulars followed by a rather feeble (certainly in comparison to the Emil Bührmann Grand Prix exhibit which, if you recall beat out the William H. Gross U.S. 1847 exhibit in Melbourne in 2013) three frames of rectangulars. The judges said I had two exhibits which I tended to dispute and Emil even asked me, "Was I going to make significant additions to the rectangular section?" I told him no but have done it anyway, especially up to 1879. The exhibit was awarded a gold medal.

Now I have always felt that my exhibits will not hold a candle to some of the other Cape of Good Hope exhibits, especially those of a well-funded Joseph Hackmey whose family sold its stake in the Israel Phoenix Assurance Company in 2002 for over U.S. $300 million after tax.* which is why I refer to mine as "academic exhibits."

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Another of the judges said there was one page that I might get a little "push-back" from the judges.

It was special to the Stockholmia 2019 exhibit which was a special exhibition commemorating the 150th Anniversary of The Royal Philatelic Society London. It appears below:

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I mean talking about and even illustrating a stamp (which appears later in the frame) purchased as a 14 year-old schoolboy and describing my attendance at the 100th Anniversary exhibition of the Royal in 1969. I could not find my ticket to the exhibition otherwise I would have even shown that!

When the judge mentioned "push-back" I had him in stitches when I said I expected to be crucified for it!

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Certainly, one of the judges, a former President of the Royal Philatelic Society London and an RDP, enjoyed seeing the "Besançon" items because he recognized them as new additions to the exhibit - since New York 2016 where the exhibit comprised five frames rather than six and garnered a Large Vermeil. There are approximately 30 items from second "Besançon" sale, together with about 10 other items from other collections to be added to the exhibit for London 2020/22 which will be in eight frames.

Start typing and hinging!

Personally I find it inconceivable a strong exhibit on the truly iconic Cape Triangles, would be padded out with a few pages of those dreary later regular square issues. :D

Be like an Exhibiting 7 Frames of 1d Blacks "with a few pages of 1d reds tossed in to fill out the space"

Or 7 frames of ''Sydney Views'' with a few stray Laureates added in, to make up the numbers etc.

Some issues are stand alone legendary and diluting them, with unconnected also-rans, makes no sense to me :mrgreen: anyway.

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Certainly, one of the judges, a former President of the Royal Philatelic Society London and an RDP, enjoyed seeing the "Besançon" items because he recognized them as new additions to the exhibit - since New York 2016 where the exhibit comprised five frames rather than six and garnered a Large Vermeil. There are approximately 30 items from second "Besançon" sale, together with about 10 other items from other collections to be added to the exhibit for London 2020/22 which will be in eight frames.

Start typing and hinging!

Personally I find it inconceivable a strong exhibit on the truly iconic Cape Triangles, would be padded out with a few pages of those dreary later regular square issues. :D

Be like an Exhibiting 7 Frames of 1d Blacks "with a few pages of 1d reds tossed in to fill out the space"

Or 7 frames of ''Sydney Views'' with a few stray Laureates added in, to make up the numbers etc.

Some issues are stand alone legendary and diluting them, with unconnected also-rans, makes no sense to me :mrgreen: anyway.

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I take your point, however the entry for London has already been set and accepted., listing the early rectangulars as a part.

I am just not sufficiently wealthy nor is the material readily available. For instance, I would need another dozen or so U.S. $10,000 - $15,000 items to be able to pull it off. Remember, I am just an impercunious peckerhead at heart and I keep on getting outbid at the auctions.

The fundamental problem is the International requirement to go to eight frames rather than six or seven, after the initial five framer, which for me was at New York 2016.
Or 7 frames of ''Sydney Views'' with a few stray Laureates added in, to make up the numbers etc.
For me that would be no problem whatsoever! The very idea of "7 frames of Sydney Views" makes me salivate. And eighth frame fall-off is an established exhibiting phenomenon!

Hoping for a lottery win (difficult for me since I am too cheap to even buy the tickets) or another thirty years of collecting.

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What an amazing nice collection.Thanks for sharing.Wondershøn.
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Darn that magnifying glasses don't work on computer screens! Lovely exhibit; thanks for sharing. 8-)

I would ask "where's the book?" but that really needs to be seen in person...
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Thank you so much for sharing these Richard,

What an amazing collection you have which must have taken a great many years to put together.

Regarding the rectangulars, I did email you a couple of weeks back as I was unsure if you had seen the Cavendish auction which contained many CGH lots from the late Robert Johnson RDP. Robert was a member of the philatelic Society I recently joined (Burton) and was a great chap- but had been unwell for much of the time I knew him.... an immensely knowledgeable individual, who would always share what he knew.

I did not hear much about how the auction went, but I hope his great collection gets to be shared and enjoyed by many others in the same way you have shared yours Richard :)

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What an amazing nice collection.Thanks for sharing.Wondershøn.
(so you already have an unexpected son in allanswoood?-that is so sad :o )
Many thanks for the kind words.

I was last in Bergen in 1971 with my parents on vacation, it is a beautiful city.

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Darn that magnifying glasses don't work on computer screens! Lovely exhibit; thanks for sharing. 8-)

I would ask "where's the book?" but that really needs to be seen in person...
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Richard, I've organized a DNA test as I strongly suspect that I am your long lost child. :D
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Many thanks for the kind words.

This is the book, one copy exists (my own production), to help me with the plating of the 4d engraved, using the manipulation of previously published data.

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A typical inside page.

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Richard,

Thank you for posting your delightful exhibit pages.

From frame 5 you have a number of reconstructions with plating features drawn by hand. I think that hand-detail like this, well done, adds something which words cannot.

Did you do the drawings? If so, was the additional effort worthwhile?

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Richard,

Thank you for posting your delightful exhibit pages.

From frame 5 you have a number of reconstructions with plating features drawn by hand. I think that hand-detail like this, well done, adds something which words cannot.

Did you do the drawings? If so, was the additional effort worthwhile?

Philip
Thank you for the kind words.

Another page from the book (in fact the facing page from the one in the post to faro above).

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The line drawings appear in a series of articles in The London Philatelist by Commander F.W. Collins, R.N. (Retired) in 1960-61 which have been manipulated by me (49 groups) to aid in the plating of the 4d engraved. The line drawing themselves were done by Mr. J. L. Northeast of Winchester.

I have no artistic skills whatsoever.

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Thanks for the additional detail,

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Love it, well done Richard and thanks for sharing it with us. I especially loved the stamps on covers and yes I'll say it, my favourite part was the social history aspects, it tells the story of the cover.

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Thank you so much for sharing these Richard,

What an amazing collection you have which must have taken a great many years to put together.

Regarding the rectangulars, I did email you a couple of weeks back as I was unsure if you had seen the Cavendish auction which contained many CGH lots from the late Robert Johnson RDP. Robert was a member of the philatelic Society I recently joined (Burton) and was a great chap- but had been unwell for much of the time I knew him.... an immensely knowledgeable individual, who would always share what he knew.

I did not hear much about how the auction went, but I hope his great collection gets to be shared and enjoyed by many others in the same way you have shared yours Richard :)

Lundy :)
Many thanks for the kind words.

I have been working on the collection since March of 1969 when I was a 14 year-old schoolboy.

I did actually know, through former memberships, Robert Johnson, RDP and even attended his display of Cape rectangulars at the Royal a few years ago (the second time I have crossed the Atlantic solely to attend a Royal meeting). I have not seen the Cavendish auction catalogue yet and could not use their website. It even occurred to me that it might have been one of these wretched E-Auctions, so popular at Spink currently, hence no actual printed auction catalogue.

I do apologize for not replying directly to you via the private e-mail system, I was planning to do so but obviously did not get around to it. I probably would not have been able to bid, since there were so many other fish to fry in the recent Corinphila auction. Part of the fun of being relatively impercunious is making the choices. Promising you a more diligent e-mail response in the future.

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Brummie wrote:
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Love it, well done Richard and thanks for sharing it with us. I especially loved the stamps on covers and yes I'll say it, my favourite part was the social history aspects, it tells the story of the cover.
Brummie, many thanks for the kind words. I too like the social history aspects of covers, it certainly brings things to light.

I even get a kick out of Lady Knatchbull's nickname 'Fanny Knight.' I fondly remember how helpful you were with the Falconer Larkworthy wreck cover to Melbourne.

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Richard,

there is nothing wrong with having some Social History in the descriptions of items, especially covers.

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Richard .... had a client here today, who got a Large Vermeil for his first ever showing of his Cape Triangles.

He was very impressed - if he remembers his password he will add a post here - his user name is - TRIANGLE! :lol: :lol:

Like you he recognises the cost and scarcity to source of key pieces to add to what you have.

He made a suggestion that a few well written up pages of the many FORGERIES of the triangles might fit in well? And add some useful and relevant material?

Not costly and there is a wealth of vintage material to add.

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I would suggest to add some more of the minor varieties together with drawings of the flaws.

This would impress the Judges particular with additional points for knowledge.

You will already be getting high points for Rarity and even with the addition of a few more high priced items wouldn't gain you much more points if any.

Adding Forgeries would most probably lose you some points,

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I would suggest to add some more of the minor varieties together with drawings of the flaws.

This would impress the Judges particular with additional points for knowledge.

You will already be getting high points for Rarity and even with the addition of a few more high priced items wouldn't gain you much more points if any.

Adding Forgeries would most probably lose you some points,

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I agree with you David regarding the inclusion of forgeries.

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Well adding forgeries, and forgery photographic images, and Forgery Die Proofs never seemed to hurt Arthur Gray getting repeated International Large Gold Medals and FIP Grand Prix D'Exhibition -

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I bought both of these above for $A4,500 each and have on sold them several times since.

Might have been ''Beginner's Luck'' for Arthur not to lose points -- dozens of times I guess. 8-)

Was just trying to make suggestions that will allow you to exhibit Cape Triangles - but hey go fill up a few frames with boring non Cape Triangle stamps to pad out the extra space - your loss I am sure - the Judges will be knocked out by those interlopers - it will look screamingly obvious that you ran out of CGH Triangles I'd suggest.

I can mail you some Kangaroos to use for a frame or so? Might get you across the line? Darn sight prettier than those dreary square CGH issues. I even have some Tanna Tuva triangles here, if you at least want to keep the same shapes to pad things out less obviously. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Clearly Sperati forgeries of the Kangaroo £2 are not in the same league as the kinds of Cape triangular forgeries which abound and would only fool an 8-year old. (or your famous blind nun) There are no known Sperati forgeries of the triangulars, only the Oneglia ones. (better than most but nowhere in the same league)

I am somewhat locked into the course of action you criticize for London 2020/22 since the exhibit has already been accepted there via the title page and synopsis. There may/will be the tiniest changes in the synopsis page which I think is allowable.

At one time I thought that New York 2016 was going to be my first and last International. (hey at one time, even the idea of international competition was unthinkable!) Moreover, when I suggested to my Dad in 1969 that I was going to collect Cape of Good Hope as my great classic country he told me that I was crazy, that I would never get more than a dozen of the triangulars and that they would mostly be the blue one. At the time of his death in 1998 I had just the one Error of Color but he was very impressed with the progress that I had made in almost 30 years.
Was just trying to make suggestions that will allow you to exhibit Cape Triangles - but hey go fill up a few frames with boring non Cape Triangle stamps to pad out the extra space - your loss I am sure - the Judges will be knocked out by those interlopers - it will look screamingly obvious that you ran out of CGH Triangles I'd suggest.
Now I have already conceded eighth frame fall-off and explained why it cannot be changed.

Besides some of items shown will not be so terrible as you suggest:


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The upper cover is ex Dale-Lichtenstein and "Besançon" and the lower cover is ex "Besançon" alone.

Now for some gardening.

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another suggestion is the inclusion of stampless covers, preferably used during the period of issue the Triangles.

The FIP Traditional rules allow for the inclusion of a limited number of stampless covers not exceeding 15% of the exhibit.

I am sure that the Exhibition will allow changes to the description of the title of the exhibit because of the time factor from the application date, to the date of the actual Exhibition.

An addition of some stampless covers and some more of the Plate flaws would be better received than adding some Hope Seated issues, which some Judges may regard as added to fill in the frames,

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I haven't read through the whole exhibit but I'd be looking for:

Have you got the errors of colour Woodblocks?

Try and get a cover sent to each continent?

Very late use of triangles on cover.

Any chance of postal use on cover of the reprints (which were still valid for post)

Any chance of postal use after invalidation?

It's a long shot and I don't believe will exist, but any forgeries that actually got through on cover. Panelli might be the only candidate.

You could always aim to reconstruct a 1 penny red sheet? :D
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Richard,

another suggestion is the inclusion of stampless covers, preferably used during the period of issue the Triangles.

The FIP Traditional rules allow for the inclusion of a limited number of stampless covers not exceeding 15% of the exhibit.

I am sure that the Exhibition will allow changes to the description of the title of the exhibit because of the time factor from the application date, to the date of the actual Exhibition.

An addition of some stampless covers and some more of the Plate flaws would be better received than adding some Hope Seated issues, which some Judges may regard as added to fill in the frames,

David B.
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In the Joburg 2010 exhibition the "Medina" exhibit began with one frame of pre-post office material. This was all to or from Commanders and Governors of the Cape before the establishment of the post office in 1792. He then went straight into the triangular plate proofs (no die proofs whatsoever), followed by the Perkins Bacon issues, De La Rue issues and ending with two frames of Woodblocks. The quality of the Woodblocks was such that when Spink sold his collection in 2013 they offered 28 Woodblocks in two group lots.

Now, as you know, pre-stamp Cape postal history has been under a cloud for decades, since the days of Adrian A. Jurgens. His fakery is now known as "Jurgensiania." I have only about a dozen pre-stamp items and they are much less significant than the proposed rectangulars I have.

As far as true stampless material is concerned, much of it is official mail, the most significant items residing in one collection in Cape Town. Moreover, the use of stamps as prepayment became compulsory on 1 January 1858.

I have recently bought two re-entries on the 6d (howling rarities although practically nobody cares about them but me). Since the 4d reconstruction now lacks only 16 positions, it is extremely difficult to make additions to that one frame (16 page) section of the exhibit.

I truly do appreciate your suggestions.

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I haven't read through the whole exhibit but I'd be looking for:

Have you got the errors of colour Woodblocks?

Try and get a cover sent to each continent?

Very late use of triangles on cover.

Any chance of postal use on cover of the reprints (which were still valid for post)

Any chance of postal use after invalidation?

It's a long shot and I don't believe will exist, but any forgeries that actually got through on cover. Panelli might be the only candidate.

You could always aim to reconstruct a 1 penny red sheet? :D

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My Errors of Color.


I will deal with your other points in another post since I keep losing my saved drafts.

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Try and get a cover sent to each continent?
South America: None exist that I know of.

North America: Almost all the ones to the U.S. are already in the Joseph Hackmey exhibit. I have recently acquired one from the Shanly correspondence to Montreal.

Africa: I have two more to Natal to go with the two that I already have. I believe Guy Dillaway only had ten in his census. I also have a triangular cover originating in the Orange Free State, already in the exhibit, ex "Maximus," "Franschhoek" and "Besaçon"

Asia: Comes down to India, Ceylon and China. The ones to India are ugly and I believe the one to Ceylon is in the Joseph Hackmey exhibit. There are maybe two known to China, bearing single 4d's, nothing to look at and costing a fortune to acquire!

Europe: I would like one to France.

Australasia: I already have two to Victoria (I believe Joseph Hackmey has none). Also one to New Zealand.

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