MAXIMAPHILY - Share your Stamp Maximum Cards

Whether we own them or not we all love LOOKING at philatelic Gems and goodies. Add your favourites today. Add your comments WHY this stamp or cover or item is superb or unusual. Or lift them from an auction site to share with other members, if that does not breach their copyright notice.

Moderators: Justin, snaws, Volunteer Moderator Team

Post Reply
User avatar
crosscrescent
Founder Member Joined April 2007
Founder Member Joined April 2007
Posts: 39751
Joined: 03 Apr 2007 13:59
Location: Klang, Selangor, Malaysia

MAXIMAPHILY - Share your Stamp Maximum Cards

Post by crosscrescent »

Saw a couple of postings of maximum cards so thought it nice to start one for those who are more into it. I'm not into this maximaphily but rememeber having collected 2 sets from the 1990s from Malaysia.

Putting this set first.

Happy viewing, commenting and posting.

Image

Image

Image

Image

Cheers
Andrew

User avatar
Lakatoi 4
Founder Member Joined April 2007
Founder Member Joined April 2007
Posts: 21624
Joined: 19 Apr 2007 20:41
Location: First star on the right then straight on till morning ...

Post by Lakatoi 4 »

Great idea for a new thread Andrew 8)

This an important area of philately often overlooked for the more "glamorous" areas.
Tony
"A cancelled stamp tells part of the story, a cover tells it all"

User avatar
crosscrescent
Founder Member Joined April 2007
Founder Member Joined April 2007
Posts: 39751
Joined: 03 Apr 2007 13:59
Location: Klang, Selangor, Malaysia

Post by crosscrescent »

Thanks Lakatoi,

Hope to see more posts on this subject.

Cheers
Andrew

User avatar
stamper
2500 Stampboards Post - Senior Guru
2500 Stampboards Post - Senior Guru
Posts: 3287
Joined: 07 May 2007 16:49
Location: New Zealand

Post by stamper »

New Zealand 2005 King Kong Maximum Card

Image
Last edited by stamper on 24 Jun 2007 16:39, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
stamper
2500 Stampboards Post - Senior Guru
2500 Stampboards Post - Senior Guru
Posts: 3287
Joined: 07 May 2007 16:49
Location: New Zealand

Post by stamper »

New Zealand 2005 Rugby Lions Series Maximum Card

Image
Last edited by stamper on 24 Jun 2007 16:39, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
stamper
2500 Stampboards Post - Senior Guru
2500 Stampboards Post - Senior Guru
Posts: 3287
Joined: 07 May 2007 16:49
Location: New Zealand

Post by stamper »

New Zealand Lord of The Rings 2004 Home of middle Earth maximum card

Image
Last edited by stamper on 24 Jun 2007 16:40, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
stamper
2500 Stampboards Post - Senior Guru
2500 Stampboards Post - Senior Guru
Posts: 3287
Joined: 07 May 2007 16:49
Location: New Zealand

Post by stamper »

New Zealand 2005 ( for 2006 Kiwipex ) maximum card

Image

User avatar
crosscrescent
Founder Member Joined April 2007
Founder Member Joined April 2007
Posts: 39751
Joined: 03 Apr 2007 13:59
Location: Klang, Selangor, Malaysia

Post by crosscrescent »

Stamper,

Nice collection there.

Cheers
Andrew

User avatar
doug2222usa
PLATINUM Shooting Star *10,000* Posts!
PLATINUM Shooting Star  *10,000* Posts!
Posts: 10823
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 03:15
Location: Columbus, Ohio. USA

Maximum Cards

Post by doug2222usa »

The 4 NZ cards are great items, but none of the cards shows the same image as the stamps. Do true maximum cards have to reproduce the stamp design??

If so, what would you call the NZ cards?

User avatar
stamper
2500 Stampboards Post - Senior Guru
2500 Stampboards Post - Senior Guru
Posts: 3287
Joined: 07 May 2007 16:49
Location: New Zealand

Post by stamper »

Gosh doug2222usa you've got me perplexed
NZ Post produces maximum cards that
may or may not match the stamp to the card.
See how this one is advertised.

Image

I would like to hear more on this anomaly

User avatar
malcolm197
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
Posts: 762
Joined: 09 Jul 2007 21:56
Location: Leicestershire, UK

Post by malcolm197 »

Note that Maximum cards should NOT be direct reproductions of the stamp.

The conditions for exhibiting cards are ( very roughly paraphrased) the maximum correlation of stamp,card and cancellation, without using a direct copy.

The classic form of maxicard collecting is to purchase a commercially available postcard, affix the appropriate stamp, and post it at a "relevant" location.

Post Office reproduction cards are definitely "cheating".

Malcolm

User avatar
iomoon
Sadly departed RIP. Greatly missed here
Sadly departed RIP.  Greatly missed here
Posts: 14570
Joined: 02 Jun 2007 22:34
Location: Alpine, Texas/ Scarsdale, New York
Contact:

Post by iomoon »

Yep, British style PHQ cards don't count.

Here is a Japanese version where the artist was only a little too far to the left.

Moderator note - Original image here was lost, or deleted by member.

User avatar
gavin-h
Founder Member Joined April 2007
Founder Member Joined April 2007
Posts: 32878
Joined: 01 Apr 2007 02:10
Location: West Coast of England

Post by gavin-h »

Image

Apollo 11 Maxicard from USA - Pubished by Colorano Covers

User avatar
iomoon
Sadly departed RIP. Greatly missed here
Sadly departed RIP.  Greatly missed here
Posts: 14570
Joined: 02 Jun 2007 22:34
Location: Alpine, Texas/ Scarsdale, New York
Contact:

Post by iomoon »

The postcard image is missing a large rock to the right of the large crater and the Earth has rotated.

Not a true maxicard! 8)

User avatar
mikbatwine
Senior Member Advanced Posting Guru
Senior Member Advanced Posting Guru
Posts: 236
Joined: 18 May 2007 16:35
Location: Macquarie Fields Australia

Post by mikbatwine »

What would these bookmarks be classed as that were issued by Aust Post

Image

Mike
There is no finish line

User avatar
doug2222usa
PLATINUM Shooting Star *10,000* Posts!
PLATINUM Shooting Star  *10,000* Posts!
Posts: 10823
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 03:15
Location: Columbus, Ohio. USA

Bookmarks

Post by doug2222usa »

Philatelic novelties. Philatelic miscellany. Perfectly respectable as long as the prices are consistent with their pedigree.

User avatar
gavin-h
Founder Member Joined April 2007
Founder Member Joined April 2007
Posts: 32878
Joined: 01 Apr 2007 02:10
Location: West Coast of England

Post by gavin-h »

iomoon wrote:The postcard image is missing a large rock to the right of the large crater and the Earth has rotated.

Not a true maxicard! 8)
Iomoon, I refer you to Malcolm's earlier comment:
malcolm197 wrote:Note that Maximum cards should NOT be direct reproductions of the stamp.

The conditions for exhibiting cards are ( very roughly paraphrased) the maximum correlation of stamp,card and cancellation, without using a direct copy.
I think that a Colorano artist has "recreated" the design of the stamp on the card as there are also other differences - the position of both the Astronaut's feet relative to the leg of the LEM are different, and the pouches attached to the waist of his spacesuit are not the same.

By Malcolm's definition, therefore, I believe that this is a true Maximum card :wink:

User avatar
iomoon
Sadly departed RIP. Greatly missed here
Sadly departed RIP.  Greatly missed here
Posts: 14570
Joined: 02 Jun 2007 22:34
Location: Alpine, Texas/ Scarsdale, New York
Contact:

Post by iomoon »

Gavin

My first reply was tongue-in-cheek.

In reality, there was no camera on the Moon to record Neil Armstrong's first step.
It was located on the landing vehicle.
Therefore both the postcard and the stamp are figments of the artists imagination.
Since there were unlikely to be two artists with the same imagination, the image of the astronaut on the stamp was copied by the postcard maker.
By definition, therefore, the stamp is not a true maxicard (see Malcom's definition) despite the rocks and rotated Earth.

User avatar
ozstamps
PLATINUM Shooting Star *10,000* Posts!
PLATINUM Shooting Star  *10,000* Posts!
Posts: 13078
Joined: 06 Sep 2005 20:24
Location: A bar somewhere near you ....
Contact:

Post by ozstamps »

malcolm197 wrote:Note that Maximum cards should NOT be direct reproductions of the stamp.

The conditions for exhibiting cards are ( very roughly paraphrased) the maximum correlation of stamp,card and cancellation, without using a direct copy.

The classic form of maxicard collecting is to purchase a commercially available postcard, affix the appropriate stamp, and post it at a "relevant" location.

Post Office reproduction cards are definitely "cheating".

Malcolm
Never knew that .. learn something new here each day for sure!
.
Click HERE to see superb, RARE and unusual stamps, at FIXED low nett prices, high rez photos, and NO buyer fees etc!

User avatar
malcolm197
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
Posts: 762
Joined: 09 Jul 2007 21:56
Location: Leicestershire, UK

Post by malcolm197 »

All

The acknowledged "experts" in this field are the French who have been dabbling in this field since before the days of the illustrated FDC.

What you need is knowledge of the dates of issue ( and also the design if possible ) in advance and knowledge of the "new" postcard market.

To do it properly needs a high level of dedication, knowledge and most of all organisation - it is so easy to "miss the boat" with your chosen postcard arriving after the issue date of the stamp !

Sorry but the "moon" postcard is just too close to the stamp.While it is different in the detail, it is far too obviously "inspired" by the stamp design.

Closest to the ideal is the "Penguins" stamp/postcard combo.I would imagine that the issue of the postcard was completely independent to the issue of the stamp.

The whole idea of maxlmaphily is to produce a "unique" combination - or at least any duplication would be "coincidental".

Malcolm

User avatar
malcolm197
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
Posts: 762
Joined: 09 Jul 2007 21:56
Location: Leicestershire, UK

Post by malcolm197 »

To give you some good examples some quite early. look at the French site

perso.orange.fr/joel.puissant

The pictures on here illustrate the philosophy precisely.

The NZ Lord of the Rings cards illustrate the technicality, but as PO commercial productions perhaps not the philosophy.

A view of the site will illustrate the difficulty of doing this subject well - I certainly would not have the time,patience or perseverance to carry this off - but I can understand people being "hooked" on this as an intellectually satisfying "active" hobby.

Malcolm

User avatar
iomoon
Sadly departed RIP. Greatly missed here
Sadly departed RIP.  Greatly missed here
Posts: 14570
Joined: 02 Jun 2007 22:34
Location: Alpine, Texas/ Scarsdale, New York
Contact:

Post by iomoon »

If you search ebay for TAAF or FSAT using the "view all sites option", you will find that about 95% of them are FDC's, EC's, and maxicards.

Now, it only the French would learn to use scanners and ignore ipix!!!

User avatar
asvcat
AQUA Shooting Star Board ADDICT!
AQUA Shooting Star Board ADDICT!
Posts: 611
Joined: 13 May 2007 12:29
Location: Australia

AP definitions of Maximum Card and Prepaid Postcard

Post by asvcat »

Australia Post defines these as follows:
Guideline G8.3.6
- Souvenir envelopes and postal stationery


Maximum Card
A maximum card is a picture postcard. The picture-side bears an affixed stamp and postmark in concordance as well as the picture. The other side has room for a message and the address. It bears a Postage Prepaid imprint that prepays postage to any Australian destination or to any overseas destination by Air Mail at any time. Sales periods and purchase arrangements are in the Australian Stamp Bulletin. It may be definitive, commemorative or special issue.

Prepaid Postcard
A prepaid postcard is a picture postcard. The picture-side bears a stamp design as well as the picture. The other side has room for a message and the address. It bears a Postage Prepaid imprint that prepays postage to any Australian destination or to any overseas destination by Airmail at any time. It may be definitive, commemorative or special issue.


No mention of the card picture related to the stamp image!

Visit my Information webpage for more details about this topic. Click on www below.

User avatar
iomoon
Sadly departed RIP. Greatly missed here
Sadly departed RIP.  Greatly missed here
Posts: 14570
Joined: 02 Jun 2007 22:34
Location: Alpine, Texas/ Scarsdale, New York
Contact:

Post by iomoon »

From FIP

The constituent elements of a maximum card should conform to the following characteristics:
1.
The postage stamp

The postage stamp should be postally valid and affixed only on the view side of the picture postcard. (postage due, pre-cancels, fiscals and stamps violating the "Code of Ethics of the UPU" are not admissible, as well as official stamps, except those which are at the disposal of the public: United Nations, UNESCO, European Council, etc..).

2.
The picture postcard

Its dimensions must conform to universal postal convention. Chapter 1 Article 19 para 1 (max. 105 X 148 mm. min. 90 X 140 mm). At least 75% of its area must be used for the picture and the illustration should show the best possible concordance with the subject of the stamp or with one of them, if there are several. Picture postcards with mere reproduction of the stamps are forbidden.

3.
The postmark and time

The pictorial design of the cancellation and the place of cancellation (name of the Post office) should have a close and direct connection with the subject of the stamp and of the picture postcard, and should be dated within the validity of the stamp and as close as possible to the date of its issue.

there are more, but these will suffice.

User avatar
clanmackay
GOLD Star Super Posting Stampboarder!
GOLD Star Super Posting Stampboarder!
Posts: 294
Joined: 18 Apr 2007 14:21
Location: Pasadena, California, USA

Post by clanmackay »

This would count, I think:

Image

The postcard featured the "old" stamp, and I used the reissued stamp. The "old" stamp is practically a landmark by now, and I had it canceled in the city where the original expo was held.

Meet the criteria?

User avatar
clanmackay
GOLD Star Super Posting Stampboarder!
GOLD Star Super Posting Stampboarder!
Posts: 294
Joined: 18 Apr 2007 14:21
Location: Pasadena, California, USA

Post by clanmackay »

The trick to get gorgeous cancels on slippery surfaces, by the way, is to spray them down with matte finish acrylic artist's sealer/finisher after applying the stamp. It acts as a mordant for the ink. Some people swear by spray starch, but it contains too much water for me.

User avatar
malcolm197
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
Posts: 762
Joined: 09 Jul 2007 21:56
Location: Leicestershire, UK

Post by malcolm197 »

Joshua

Probably does not "strictly" meet the criteria for competition purposes. However would be a most interesting non-competitive exhibit as it does show some originality of thought,and effort to get the conformance right. The idea is to get away from the Post Office official card and stamp which is relatively easy and requires no originality or "flair". One of the things I admire the French for is "flair". They have it in abundance and can apply it to the most mundane things.

Only the French could make a municipal fire station into an architectural masterpiece, like the one in Reims, and even their bridges and roads have a tendency to beauty as well as utility- many of the motorways have series of sculptures alongside them.

Malcolm

User avatar
admin
Site Administrator
Posts: 12736
Joined: 02 Sep 2005 12:46
Location: That's on a need to know basis - and YOU do not need to know!

Post by admin »

Malcolm .. why not post a few of the French ones here for instruction and interest?

User avatar
admin
Site Administrator
Posts: 12736
Joined: 02 Sep 2005 12:46
Location: That's on a need to know basis - and YOU do not need to know!

Post by admin »

iomoon wrote:
Picture postcards with mere reproduction of the stamps are forbidden.
I love the Omaha. 8)

To be technical if the modern stamp was reproduced in mono .. wouldn't it get clobbered by this rule? Isn't design the same?

User avatar
iomoon
Sadly departed RIP. Greatly missed here
Sadly departed RIP.  Greatly missed here
Posts: 14570
Joined: 02 Jun 2007 22:34
Location: Alpine, Texas/ Scarsdale, New York
Contact:

Post by iomoon »

Here is image of St. Lucia, Pigeon Island maxicard and a close up of the stamp.

Moderator note - Original images here was lost, or deleted by member.

I collect Volcanos on stamps

User avatar
clanmackay
GOLD Star Super Posting Stampboarder!
GOLD Star Super Posting Stampboarder!
Posts: 294
Joined: 18 Apr 2007 14:21
Location: Pasadena, California, USA

Post by clanmackay »

Probably gets clobbered anyway. Oh well. :-)

Here's the story behind the mono-color vs bi-color: originally the stamps were commissioned as frame-plus-vignette two-color issues. Then the US was in the midst of the Spanish-American war, and it was decided that the two-color printing would be too expensive. So the designs were re-engraved as single-die issues.

The reprint? Printed from the original frame-plus-vignette intaglio dies! Beautiful stamps, and to get them at face value? Priceless.

User avatar
ozstamps
PLATINUM Shooting Star *10,000* Posts!
PLATINUM Shooting Star  *10,000* Posts!
Posts: 13078
Joined: 06 Sep 2005 20:24
Location: A bar somewhere near you ....
Contact:

Post by ozstamps »

Sir William that collects red postmarks here will lust after that card!
.
Click HERE to see superb, RARE and unusual stamps, at FIXED low nett prices, high rez photos, and NO buyer fees etc!

User avatar
malcolm197
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
Posts: 762
Joined: 09 Jul 2007 21:56
Location: Leicestershire, UK

Post by malcolm197 »

The St. Lucia example is excellent. The postcard appears to be a normally available postcard. The conformance with the stamp is so close ( angle of picture etc) that I wonder if the stamp artist used that very postcard as the basis of his design. There is a precedent for this. Some early pictorial stamps of Turkey have a similar degree of conformance with contemporary commercial postcards ( there was an article in a UK stamp magazine some years ago showing the stamps and the postcards and the similarity is amazing )

For French examples of maximum cards I refer you to the website on my post of 9 July.

Malcolm

User avatar
dorinco
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
Posts: 810
Joined: 11 Sep 2007 04:54
Location: USA, Virginia
Contact:

Maximum cards, traditional or freestyle

Post by dorinco »

Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image

Please check my other posts (Roll Call, etc.).
See my 5 groups at Facebook where I am admin/founder. The main one is https://www.facebook.com/groups/maximaphily/

User avatar
doug2222usa
PLATINUM Shooting Star *10,000* Posts!
PLATINUM Shooting Star  *10,000* Posts!
Posts: 10823
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 03:15
Location: Columbus, Ohio. USA

Definition needed:

Post by doug2222usa »

for "traditional" and "freestyle" maximum cards, so we understand what we're talking about...

User avatar
dorinco
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
Posts: 810
Joined: 11 Sep 2007 04:54
Location: USA, Virginia
Contact:

Freestyle maximaphily includes traditional maximaphily

Post by dorinco »


The Santa Claus MC above is freestyle because it's made from a greeting card, onto which I affixed an address label so that my MPP cancel is visible on white backgroud, and it doesn't smear on the glossy surface. When necessary, I can affix and postmark additional stamps, to make the rate, on the back of the card. Especially if I don't mail it.

Traditional = In strict observance of the International Philatelic Federation (FIP) rules and regulations about maximaphily. No this, no that, only this, only that, everything else is forbidden and illegal.

Ooh!...

They are suffocating exactly what they should nurture: your creativity.

I have studied those rules in detail, I have discussed with quite a few world-class maximaphilists, and I got their feedback, too, about all this "ordnung und disziplin" mindset.
Hey, even the FIP Maximaphily Commission has officialy agreed that "we need to relax the rules, so that we attract more youth to the hobby", etc.

Check this out, from Maxifrance 2005:

"The next subject introduced was "How to bring young people closer to
Maximaphily - Maximaphily in relation to one-frame collections and the
preferences of young people", presented by Pascal Bandry, who is responsible
for the youth section of "Les Maximaphiles Fran'ais" and Paul Raynaud, member
of the same association. In the discussion which followed, Michel Menchon, vicepresident
of the FFAP Youth Commission, took part and also Miguel A. Garcia
Fernandez, chairman of the FIP Youth Philately Commission, whose presence
gave an especial dimension to the entire discussion of the subject. He
congratulated the organisers for the quality of this Maximaphily seminar and
stated that Maximaphily which is entirely independent FIP class is actually
developing on the international level.
All the speakers emphasised the positive and attractive role which the Maximum
card continues to play for young collectors both in the Youth Class and in
Thematic Philately, and in the promotion classes of one-frame and open class.
Philippe Lesage, president of the French Philatelic Federation (FFAP) Youth
commission, recapitulating invoked the encouraging example of the school
competition in Cyprus, and stressed the need to adopt new ideas and new
approaches,
emphasising the necessity for an intensive, collective and
coordinated endeavour by the international and specific philatelic leadership and
the monitors for training young people. The restrictions of the Maximaphily
regulations are rather complicated and appear simple only with the eyes of the
well informed specialists...
It is thus necessary to be conscious of that in the
approach with the newcomers... Philippe Lesage, convinced of the real attractive
power of the cart-maximum, estimates that the great impact of Maximaphily on
the general public risk to be blocked by heavy limits which are not always
obvious.
(Dorin's comment: even when they are obvious, they still are heavy limits :D )

C. The FIP Official Maximaphily Meeting
On the afternoon of the same day, the FIP Official Maximaphily Meeting was held
as programmed. Nicos Rangos preside over the meeting of delegates in the
presence of Joseph Wolff, FIP vice-president who has the responsibility for
Maximaphily. After the roll call, a very well-prepared presentation started
concerning the respect for the Maximaphily regulations and the validity of the
Maximum cards (SREV and Guidelines), introduced by professor Jean-Claude
Bouquet and Anny Boyard, president of "Les Maximaphiles Fran'ais"
Association. The presentation was followed by a lively debate on some special
points concerning the percentage of the postcard surface illustration (75%?), the
dimensions of the postcards, the concordance between the three component
elements of the Maximum card and the Maximum cards with stamps cut from
official postal stationery items. On all the above points, agreements were
reached
which will very shortly be defined by the FIP Maximaphily Commission
Bureau and presented to the next FIP congress for the ratification procedures.
Unfortunately there was not quite enough time to discuss the following points
which will very soon be thoroughly attended to by the FIP Maximaphily
Commission Bureau:
- Maximum-cards with personalised stamps, "tabs" or perfins.
- Creation of the FIP Maximaphily Commission website.
- Official regulations for the "World Best Maximum Card Competition"
- Maximaphily collection evaluation by non-qualified jury members in
national and international exhibitions.
- How to spread Maximaphily in African and Asian countries, in the United
Kingdom and other northern countries.
- Maximum-cards created by certain postal administrations without
conforming to the FIP regulations (Dorin: How dare they? It's illegal! :shock: )
.
- Degree of recognition by the official authorities of world philately."

http://maximaphily.info/Articles/Maxifrance'05%20article%20_English%20version_.pdf

While I respect, admire and envy the great accomplishments of the traditional school of maximaphily, of which I am a member, too, thru (shorter than through... :D )MACSU, I decided that I should focus on a different approach.

I call this freestyle maximaphily, which is not as self-explanatory as I thought, apparently. So: there are no more strict rules for you, the collector, especially if you are not interested in exhibiting according to their rules.
There are only guidelines, recommendations, suggestions, and you are free to philatelically express yourself pretty much any way you want. Especially if you do it for your own enjoyment of the hobby, and not necessarily to plea$e other$.

Since the volunteer law enforcement officers of the Traditional Maximaphily Police will vehemently tell you that you can't do that, then you could use a different name for your freestyle maximum cards.
I use the term Dorincards (or dorincards, eventually), an invented word, just like Lego or iPod are. Who's to stop me, or you, from that? And why?

Freestyle maximaphily is an expansion of the traditional one, so any traditional MC is also a dorincard, in my personal view (which I am not imposing on anybody else). But a dorincard may be any self-made, self-printed postcard, without "the 75% picture rule", with many options for stamp(s) (allows a personalized one). etc.

If somebody reading this agrees, great!
If not, no problem! Continue to let somebody else DICTATE you what and what not, how and how not, and so on. Don't you dare to be creative. :cry: It's forbidden and illegal!
Last edited by dorinco on 25 Sep 2007 06:27, edited 1 time in total.
See my 5 groups at Facebook where I am admin/founder. The main one is https://www.facebook.com/groups/maximaphily/

User avatar
doug2222usa
PLATINUM Shooting Star *10,000* Posts!
PLATINUM Shooting Star  *10,000* Posts!
Posts: 10823
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 03:15
Location: Columbus, Ohio. USA

Post by doug2222usa »

Thanks for your insights. I used to have a lot of 1920s and 1930s ham-radio "QSL" (confirming station contact) cards, and those guys were highly creative with colors, fonts, illustrations, cartoons, radio-guy-insider jokes, etc. Not particularly related to maximum cards, but certainly creative to an extreme.

User avatar
dorinco
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
Posts: 810
Joined: 11 Sep 2007 04:54
Location: USA, Virginia
Contact:

Post by dorinco »

doug2222usa wrote:Thanks for your insights. I used to have a lot of 1920s and 1930s ham-radio "QSL" (confirming station contact) cards, and those guys were highly creative with colors, fonts, illustrations, cartoons, radio-guy-insider jokes, etc. Not particularly related to maximum cards, but certainly creative to an extreme.
Doug, I would defnitely welcome those QSLs under the large, generous tent of freestyle maximaphily. A recent ATA article agreed that they are a neglected source of interesting philatelic items.

See my edit to the top of the previous post, while you were writing.
See my 5 groups at Facebook where I am admin/founder. The main one is https://www.facebook.com/groups/maximaphily/

User avatar
gavin-h
Founder Member Joined April 2007
Founder Member Joined April 2007
Posts: 32878
Joined: 01 Apr 2007 02:10
Location: West Coast of England

Post by gavin-h »

Dorinco,

That's a VERY well reasoned and written argument you put forward there. From now on, I shall count myself as a collector of Dorincards and NOT Maximumcards.

Gavin

User avatar
dorinco
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
Posts: 810
Joined: 11 Sep 2007 04:54
Location: USA, Virginia
Contact:

Thank you!

Post by dorinco »

gavin-h wrote:Dorinco,

That's a VERY well reasoned and written argument you put forward there. From now on, I shall count myself as a collector of Dorincards and NOT Maximumcards.

Gavin
Thank you, Gavin!

I appreciate your open-mindedness. Not everybody has it...
See my 5 groups at Facebook where I am admin/founder. The main one is https://www.facebook.com/groups/maximaphily/

User avatar
malcolm197
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
Posts: 762
Joined: 09 Jul 2007 21:56
Location: Leicestershire, UK

Post by malcolm197 »

I think that one of the things about maximum cards is the originality angle - and I do agree that perhaps the rules are a little too rigid. However when comparing exhibits in a competition there has to be a method that compares "like" with "like", and so some parameters have to be set.

Perhaps there needs to be some "new classes" introduced to expand the concepts - perhaps non-competitive initially until some sort of concensus can be reached about the limits of each class.

As I said before I would never have the patience ( or the time ) to get involved in this, but I think it one of the best "spectator sports " of philately - much more interesting to us "lesser mortals" then looking at 200 sheets of Oz KG5 sidefaces ( with all due respect to Glen and others ).

To get philately to the masses we need much more of this sort of thing - where even the philatelically uninvolved can perhaps "get the point".

Malcolm

User avatar
dorinco
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
Posts: 810
Joined: 11 Sep 2007 04:54
Location: USA, Virginia
Contact:

Post by dorinco »

Malcolm, I agree with you. A lot.

I think it's much more interesting to move from the passive status (simply collecting what others have created) to the active one (where you can create your own postally valid items, or even your own cinderellas).

The only problem you will have if you create, let's say, non-traditional maximum cards, is that some ultra-orthodox lookers, potential buyers and exhibition jurors would not accept their merit, because your cards don't obey The Rules. :roll:

Once you decide that this is not a big deal, you will create freely, despite any naysayer (I could use much harsher words).
:D
See my 5 groups at Facebook where I am admin/founder. The main one is https://www.facebook.com/groups/maximaphily/

User avatar
clanmackay
GOLD Star Super Posting Stampboarder!
GOLD Star Super Posting Stampboarder!
Posts: 294
Joined: 18 Apr 2007 14:21
Location: Pasadena, California, USA

Post by clanmackay »

Here are a few of mine, that could be called Dorincards:

Image

Image

Image

Image

More at https://www.mcgees.org/postalcancel/postalcancelintro.shtml.

User avatar
dorinco
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
Posts: 810
Joined: 11 Sep 2007 04:54
Location: USA, Virginia
Contact:

Excellent, Josh!

Post by dorinco »

I have seen long ago your website, Josh, and I have greatly enjoyed your philatelic creations. Very interesting, original and informative. And occasionally "un-orthodox" :wink: .

Those postmarks can give us clues about where to send for similar cancels, next time around, if possible!

Can you believe that the FIP Commission of Maximaphily says:

"In general, abstract or symbolic subjects do not suit Maximaphily and are excluded
from its field." :shock:

They are excluding exactly the most intellectually brilliant aspect of your creativity.

Anybody can go for a simple, plain subject concordance: stamp/card/postmark. No superior intelligence necessary, to put it bluntly. An average one is enough. Dog/dog/dog, for example. What you see is what you get, WYSIWYG. Simple.

But to create an abstract, symbolic, ideatic, philosophical, conceptual, cryptic, metaphoric, ironic, sarcastic, (mensa) puzzling or other intellectually thought-provoking FMC (freestyle MC= dorincard, or whatever you want to call it)- now THAT requires at least an above-average intelligence, going as high up as you can.
See my 5 groups at Facebook where I am admin/founder. The main one is https://www.facebook.com/groups/maximaphily/

User avatar
clanmackay
GOLD Star Super Posting Stampboarder!
GOLD Star Super Posting Stampboarder!
Posts: 294
Joined: 18 Apr 2007 14:21
Location: Pasadena, California, USA

Post by clanmackay »

Those are great, dorinco!

Also, I never took a moment to acknowledge and thank you for your descriptions of my work as brilliant and creative. So, thank you! And sorry for the delay.

The best place I know to look for US pictorial cancellations is the biweekly USPS Postal Bulletin. Haven't checked if there are any Dracula ones yet!

User avatar
ozstamps
PLATINUM Shooting Star *10,000* Posts!
PLATINUM Shooting Star  *10,000* Posts!
Posts: 13078
Joined: 06 Sep 2005 20:24
Location: A bar somewhere near you ....
Contact:

Post by ozstamps »

Dorinco .. you need to choose the photobucket code link for BULLETIN BOARDS and post that please.
.
Click HERE to see superb, RARE and unusual stamps, at FIXED low nett prices, high rez photos, and NO buyer fees etc!

User avatar
dorinco
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
Posts: 810
Joined: 11 Sep 2007 04:54
Location: USA, Virginia
Contact:

Re: Vlad Dracula maximum cards, and more

Post by dorinco »

Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
See my 5 groups at Facebook where I am admin/founder. The main one is https://www.facebook.com/groups/maximaphily/

User avatar
dorinco
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
Posts: 810
Joined: 11 Sep 2007 04:54
Location: USA, Virginia
Contact:

Post by dorinco »

You can edit your posts in this forum
Really? Where's the EDIT button?.........
See my 5 groups at Facebook where I am admin/founder. The main one is https://www.facebook.com/groups/maximaphily/

User avatar
dorinco
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
BLUE Shooting Star Posting GURU!!
Posts: 810
Joined: 11 Sep 2007 04:54
Location: USA, Virginia
Contact:

Post by dorinco »

clanmackay wrote:Those are great, dorinco!

Also, I never took a moment to acknowledge and thank you for your descriptions of my work as brilliant and creative. So, thank you! And sorry for the delay.

The best place I know to look for US pictorial cancellations is the biweekly USPS Postal Bulletin. Haven't checked if there are any Dracula ones yet!
I prefer that USPS Bulletin, too. :D
See my 5 groups at Facebook where I am admin/founder. The main one is https://www.facebook.com/groups/maximaphily/

Filmatelist
Green Star Less Than 10 Posts Member
Green Star Less Than 10 Posts Member
Posts: 5
Joined: 14 Feb 2008 09:06
Location: Northern California
Contact:

Post by Filmatelist »

I'm most gratified to see dorinco's treatise on "freestyling" maxicards. I only recently discovered there were set rules and restrictions--which, for me, takes a lot of the fun out of it!

I've just started a blog (http://filmatelist.blogspot.com/) on my maximum card collecting--all concentrating on film-related material (either the stamp, the card, or both). I'd love to get any feedback, suggestions, or comments and look forward to visiting some of the sites posted in this thread in particular to get ideas and inspiration.

Much thanks!

SH

Post Reply

Return to “Share with others here your NICE looking stamp and cover images etc.”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: KevinHedley and 7 guests