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Is there an equivalent to the Australian Commonwealth Specialists' Catalogue (ACSC, aka Brusden White) for Norfolk Island?

I've recently acquired a box lot which included some NI stamp varieties, and I'm wondering what else there is out there (particularly NI coil varieties???).

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Jim .. nothing I am aware of.

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:( - but thanks Glen.
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Supporting the Southern NZ economy. :)

They may have been small monographs, or separate listing in Specialist journals on some Norfolk errors decades back, but nothing CENTRAL exists I have ever seen.
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jimdotwalker wrote:Is there an equivalent to the Australian Commonwealth Specialists' Catalogue (ACSC, aka Brusden White) for Norfolk Island?

I've recently acquired a box lot which included some NI varieties, and I'm wondering what else there is out there (particularly NI coil varieties???).

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Another :(
I think I saw a copy of the Stanley Gibbons Elizabethan at the Canberra Lifeline book fair on Saturday - and ignored it....

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VERY few - if any - in Elizabethan .. don't worry. :mrgreen:
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Hi Jim,

This list appeared in the Pacific Island Circle Journal back in 1988. Compiled by Steve Bradford and Bertram Mendelsohn will a little help from me.

Many Norfolk Island varieties have subsequently been mentioned in the house journal.

If this is an area you are interested in you should consider becoming a member.

In fact if you have any interest in the Postal History/Stamps of the Pacific Islands you should join.

http://www.pisc.org.uk/

Hope the list below helps.
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List Of Norfolk Island Varieties – Steve Bradford/Bertram Mendelsohn /Chris Clifford Pacifica Vol. 26 1988

S.G.
No.
1. Disappearing Headland
2. Vertical Strip of 4, Imperf at side.
3. Printed on Green Tinted Paper.
Imperf at base.
4. Double Perforations.
5. Disappearing Headland Double Perforations.
9. Ink flaw top left comer.
12. Double Perforations.
19. Deep violet shade.
20. No dot bottom RH comer.
21. Thin Ink on 7d overprint
7d Double Overprint.
Sliced d variety. (SG 21VI) R3/1.
23. Broken Bar in Overprint (SG21V2) R8/1.
Frame Scratch. (SG23V4).
24. White Leaves.
25. Rose Colour Shift.
31. 3mm Upward Shift of Yellow.
36. Emerald shade of Green.
Break in Frame Line above R of Norfolk.
36. (SPECIMEN) 3 settings known of Overprint
41. Retouch in middle of Bible.
52. Extra Craft. (SG52V3).
56. Face Value omitted.
60. Partial Offset
Small Tablet.
61. Missing value in Grey O/P Square.
Colour shift on pink, to (A) NW, (B) NE,
62. (C) SW, (D) SE.
Shift in O/P.
Missing O/P tablet but with 3c O/P.
65. Misplaced O/P. (Displaced O/P on Perfs).
66. Silver over Black.
68. Silver O/P is Narrow.
70. Black 2mm higher than normal.
71. Broken top on I of $1 (SG71V12.)
72. Offset.
White Sky due to Plate wear.
Large Tablet
Missing Roadway and Sands.
74. Damaged 1 in 1966
75. Red Dot between Norfolk and Island RS/3.
Green Line through K to I. R7/3.
Pink Colour Shift on Lhs of Roof.
76 Dot under NOR. R5/5
77. Flag at half mast
Dot in N. R10/2
Shift to Right of Red Printing.
Short vertical line at right. R10/7.
Spar to sail. (SG77V5.)
White Dot Rhs of Main Mast.
78.
Ink Run on 2c value.
White Dot in Sky. (Several Positions.)
Smudged value.
80. Vertical lines on plate.
81. Extra man in craft (SG81V7). Rl/4.
Vertical Hairline through K. R8/4. R9/4,
R10/4.
Large Bird variety. R8/4.
Thin S.
82. White Porthole. (SG82VI1). RI/ 1.
Weak entry in Bow of Ship.
83. Double Lines on Pennant
Run on 9c Value.
84. Blue dot on Front of Sail, bottom left.
White Rock in Front of boat. R10/6.
87. Doctor Blade.
89. Colour Shift, all colours.
93. White Lips.
Strong Offset.
94. Strong Offset.
White Lips.
Pale area to left of eye.
95. White Lips.
Strong Offset.
Dark Spot on L of Norfolk.
Spot on Eyebrow.
Weak Frame.
95A. White Lips.
Strong Offset.
Spot on Cheek. No 3 of Strip.
Spot on Chin.
Missing Line in Tail of Jet.
96. Missing Clouds.
97. Missing Clouds.
Red Printing displaced upwards.
Red Hairline through Lettering.
100. Van Difmans Variety. (SG100VB). Extended
R in September.
Two Dots on Map under A of land R3/1.
Retouch under N on Map.
Vertical Spur on Coastline. R3/4.
101. Retouch under N on Map. - Two dots on
Map under A of Land R3/ 1.
103. Weak printing on Leaves.
'Norfolk Island', Thin and Thicker Print.
Offset on Beak.
Red Dot in Top RH Comer. R2/3. Weak
Branch.
Missing Branches.
Extra Branch, (SG103V9).
104. Smudged Value.
Brown Printing out of Register. Yellow
Leaves.
105. 1mm Brown Blob. R8/4.
Brown Flaw on Breast
106. Grey Dot R5/9.
Black Mark on Leaf.
White Dot.
107. Broken A in Blue Island.
108. Retouch under Tail. Rl/10.
Weak L in Island.
Weak Value.
110. Retouch above 10c and Ink Run.
Smudged Value.
111. Smudged Upper Lettering
Colour Shift, Green on Breast.
113. Dark Flaw.
Brown Circular Blob. R8/4.
113A. Glazed Ordinary Paper.
114. Extra Yellow Twig under 30c.
118. Colour Run (Red). R3/5.
Blue Line. R6/1, R6/2. Dot in N.
White Spot on N. (SG 118VI0). Crack (or
Paper Crease) R2/1.
119. 3mm Drop in Blue Printing.
Weak White Printing (almost disappears.)
Line Through April to Banksia. R3/4. Line
Through Endeavour. R3/4.
120. Trouser Leg Bug Black Dot RS/7. Plate
Block with missing 1A in Blue.
121. Flaw at Bottom of Face.
123. Scratch on Face
126. Missing Equator and Two Tropic Lines.
61
127. Ghosting of Halo.
Missing Purple Colour, (SG 128EA.)
Letters LT joined R9/10.
Orange Flaw in Left Frame. R2/1.
Hair Lines.
129. Various Horizontal Lines.
131. Red Omitted.
135. Dot under Step. R1/4.
Dot before N of Norfolk.
Dot below Line after Island at top.
Mark over Free. R2/5.
Weak 3c. R2/4.
136. Large Black Flaw on N of Norfolk
R8/5.
140. Hair Lines through to l0c.
142. Broken Second 0 in Norfolk.
158/
161.
'AUKLAND' error on adhesive
backing.
204. Horizontal roulettes omitted from
Backing Paper.
205. White Dot on L of Norfolk.
224. Flaw Right of Chimney.
229. Missing Red Island RS/5.
Faint Red Dot at Edge of Stamp.
R3/2.
235A. Black Omitted.
244. Black Flaw, Top of C of Value. R3/3.
Line through c of 30c.
White Dot on 0 of Value. R3/1.
245. White Hole on Second 0 of Norfolk
R2/4.
246. Break in 0 of Value. RS/3.
248. Red Dot above Main Design.
252. Blue Dot on Forehead. RI/3.
MS261 Grey Printing instead of Black.
313. 2mm colour Shift of Pink.
1984 Fish Definitives.
3 Different Gutter Strips exist for each
value. Refer to position of
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Thirteen varieties are listed in the old 1981 SG Catalogue of Commonwealth Varieties with the illustrations V1-10 given in Chris's list.

The catalogue lists two varieties for SG 21 - the "sliced d" and also the "bottom bar broken" which has become attached to SG23 in the list above.
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Thanks very much Chris and Nigel - will work with information above. :D

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Now that someone has raised the subject of Norfolk Island stamps, I am wondering if this is a country that is becoming more popular. Many years ago, really liking the designs of the early issues, I bought the first several sets but later sold them when I abandoned the hobby for several years.

At the time, I recollect this was supposed to be a "hot" country. However, I notice that prices have not increased much and I can probably replace the stamps I sold at a reasonably modest cost. Norfolk has also continued to issue stamps at a rapid rate.

What do members think? I still like the early stamps and would probably buy them again but is it a popular country to collect and try to complete?

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Greidp,
I am wondering if this is a country that is becoming more popular.
Whilst polar philately has increased in popularity, which has resulted in an increase in interest in AAT, it would unfortunately seem that Norfolk Island has a decreasing level of interest - despite links to the history of Pitcairn Islands.

There are, however, over 700 hits on Stampboards if you search on "Norfolk Island".
I notice that prices have not increased much and I can probably replace the stamps I sold at a reasonably modest cost.

Indeed.
Norfolk has also continued to issue stamps at a rapid rate.
Getting back onto the topic of Norfok Island varieties, I received the Norfolk Island Philatelic Bureau bulletin in the mail today. It pictures 50 different backing varieties of the 60c "Iconic Activities" - varieties presumably also present in the 75c, $1.55 and $2.75 in the set.

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By comparison, there were only 14 varieties of the backings of the UPU / 150th Anniversary / Girl Scouts / Boy Scouts issues of the 1970s (15 varieties if you include the "AUKLAND" mis-spelling on the 1974 UPU issue).

I think the Norfolk Island Philatelic Bureau has just given me an excuse to cease buying new issues, and to focus my efforts elsewhere (like the varieties of past NI issues listed above :| ).

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jimdotwalker wrote:I think the Norfolk Island Philatelic Bureau has just given me an excuse to cease buying new issues, and to focus my efforts elsewhere (like the varieties of past NI issues listed above :| ).
I would agree with you - Norfolk Island is one of the few Pacific Islands I still collect - perhaps not for much longer.
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Forgot this variety in the recent World Heritage booklet:

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Notice the misspelling of 'Gaurd' on the stamp - appears the proof reader let their guard down! :lol: :roll:
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and I thought Norfolk Island stamps were perfect. Something else to look for. I'm only going to collect to about 1990 or so though.

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Here is another spelling error - clearly the guilty party has had a long employment. The gutter strip on all four values of the August 1995 World War 11 vehicles has 'NORFOLK' spelt as 'NORFOLD'. What a shocker!
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I have the Michel Band 7 Australien Ozeanien 2010 catalog.

I notice that there are a number of especially paper varieties that are not listed in the Scott catalog.

I do not have SG for this geographical area.

I would be glad send any info you need from this Michel catalog.

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A Norfolk Island complete commercial usage collection is a bigger challenge than obtaining all of the major errors and varieties.

The errors come and go over the decades; I've yet to see a N.I. complete usage collection for even the £SD issues, 1947-65.

The glaring omissions in that quest are postally used articles bearing the 1960 2/8d Local Govt., and 1961 10/- Tropic Bird. I've seen the other stamps of the era, albeit just in ones and twos for many.

Can anyone make my day and post a scan of valid commercial postal use (i.e. not FDCs) of either the 2/8d or 10/-?

When Steve Bradford sold his fine N.I. collection at auction, I quizzed him on his modest representation of £SD usage material, despite clear indications that an attempt to remedy his position had been mounted.

Steve replied that in decades of looking he had found next to nothing!

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Listed this today and it sold in minutes, but added here to add to the Norfolk database -

https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=48970
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Norfolk 1967 10c Ship MUH with Striking Pre-Print paper fold.
Striking error. An error in paper manufacture left a prominent pre-printing paper fold, and the printing by Harrisons was done over this paper fold.

If you look closely, you can see the brown print ink in the paper fold midships at deck level.
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VERY seldom seen on any stamps on this era, and especially from Harrisons & Sons, London, who were the world master security printers of the time.

First I have ever seen.

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Rod Perry wrote:A Norfolk Island complete commercial usage collection is a bigger challenge than obtaining all of the major errors and varieties.

The errors come and go over the decades; I've yet to see a N.I. complete usage collection for even the £SD issues, 1947-65.

The glaring omissions in that quest are postally used articles bearing the 1960 2/8d Local Govt., and 1961 10/- Tropic Bird. I've seen the other stamps of the era, albeit just in ones and twos for many.

Can anyone make my day and post a scan of valid commercial postal use (i.e. not FDCs) of either the 2/8d or 10/-?

When Steve Bradford sold his fine N.I. collection at auction, I quizzed him on his modest representation of £SD usage material, despite clear indications that an attempt to remedy his position had been mounted.

Steve replied that in decades of looking he had found next to nothing!

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Sorry, I can't quite make your day as it is a fdc:

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However for what purpose was this stamp issued. Was there a rate for the 10/- stamp or was it a make up rate for parcels?

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Rod Perry wrote:A Norfolk Island complete commercial usage collection is a bigger challenge than obtaining all of the major errors and varieties.

The errors come and go over the decades; I've yet to see a N.I. complete usage collection for even the £SD issues, 1947-65.

The glaring omissions in that quest are postally used articles bearing the 1960 2/8d Local Govt., and 1961 10/- Tropic Bird. I've seen the other stamps of the era, albeit just in ones and twos for many.

Can anyone make my day and post a scan of valid commercial postal use (i.e. not FDCs) of either the 2/8d or 10/-?

When Steve Bradford sold his fine N.I. collection at auction, I quizzed him on his modest representation of £SD usage material, despite clear indications that an attempt to remedy his position had been mounted.

Steve replied that in decades of looking he had found next to nothing!

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Have I made your day with this one?

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I kind of think not because I am sure you mean commercial use paying the correct rate!

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From the Norfolk Island Philatelic Bulletin:

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Firstly the date of issue is incorrectly printed in the Bulletin as 15th January 2001.

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And that date is repeated in the fdi postmark. However the postmark also calls the bird "Norfka" which is one of three names for the bird but the issue was called "Nuffka" as the fdc cachet correctly shows. The error in this postmark was detected before use & should have been destroyed but somehow it was used & if I remember correctly sold over the Post Office counter.

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Brad, sorry I overlooked replying to your postings of 10/- Bird and 2/8d Local Govt. Both, as you say, are philatelic usages.

The more logical commercial postal uses for these stamps were:

10/- Bird:
Aside from parcel rates, quintuple (i.e. 2-2½ozs.) 2/- per ½oz. airmail rate to North America (i.e. 2/- x5), or registered quadruple airmail rate (i.e. 2/- x4) + 2/-.

2/8d Local Govt:
Registered second weight step (i.e. 1-2ozs.) surface mail to Australia, and registered non-standard airmail up to ½oz. to Australia. Both of these would require 8d postage + 2/- registration.
Registered airmail to N.Z. (again 8d + 2/-).

I doubt that either stamp exists on a commercial postal article.

However, a 1953 5/- sepia Bridge strip of three does exist on commercail cover; it fetched a staggering $5,250 (+ premium) at Prestige Auctions recently.

I originally bought that cover in U.K. in 1990s . . . for twenty quid (and no, I wasn't the vendor on the occasion of the recent sale).

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Very pretty lot I listed up today. :mrgreen:

Anyone seen any OTHER progressive proofs from Norfolk?

Garrard had some working proofs on the 70s free forms that sold for well into 4 figures a set, but not this kind of colour separation stuff.

Indeed is anyone aware of ANY other stamp set from Norfolk printed in Spain?

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As a dealer for 35 years, I have NEVER even seen a set offered such as this from Norfolk. The spectacular 2002 Stephen Bradford and 2011 Eddie Garrard Norfolk Island collections did NOT have these. Presumed to be from the Printer Archive – Heraclio Fournier, Spain.

I am not aware of any other stamp from Norfolk (or anyone locally) printer by Fournier. Fresh MUH progressive Colour Proofs, on same gummed paper as issued stamp, with matching perforated stamp. A spectacular looking album page. Almost certainly unique pieces - priced at HALF what the AP current PO year book costs! SG #125.

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Posted elsewhere:

Three different overprints on the 10/- Norfolk Island Red-Tailed Tropic Bird:

* Specimen Overprint Bottom Centre (Retail $70)
* Specimen Overprint Bottom Right (Retail $70)
* Specimen Overprint Top Left (Retail $110)

(Retail Value from Sydney Philatelics https://stampsaustralia.com.au/Online_stamps_shop/query/Australian_Territories/Norfolk_Island ).

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A recent purchase:

5 Jun 1981 First Day cover, with 35c Gold Stamp, from the "International Postal Collectors League"
( (c) 1981 Calhoun's Collectors Society, Inc, according to the accompanying album page - not illustrated).

Gold Stamp:
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Original:
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On Cover:
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Another recent purchase:

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(four coil wrappers for the four different Norfolk Island coil issues)

(the Australian Commonwealth Specialists' Catalogue (aka "Brusden-White") lists coil wrappers, and as these very rarely come to market, I thought I'd show them here).

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Offsets are often regarded as a variety:
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However, the Norfolk Island coils were produced using a similar process (multicolour photogravure) to the Australian Coils.

In the ACSC listing for the Australian 3c Queen Elizabeth Coil, the catalogue notes:
All so-called offsets on this issue are believed to be the result of "sweating" of coils in humid regions.

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This Norfolk Island cover is, I assume, commercially used. Sent in 1952 with Ball Bay 9d. and ½d. stamps.

I haven't seen these that often so can anybody give me an idea if there is generally any rarity to early commercial covers like this :?:

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Real postal use of the early stamps is not common, you are right there. :)

Certainly looks commercial in all ways - except the rate appears strange.

Norfolk then as now seemed to follow oz rates for letter post, and cannot image what rate needed a 9½d franking?

A letter was 3½d here and double weight was 6½d local and 7½d overseas, and there were specific stamps for both commonly used rates, and there was no 9½d common rate here. Various 2 other Ball Bay values could be used to up make both rates assuming they applied.

Curious.

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I also thought the rate was high.

The reg. label could have come off it at some stage :?:
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Can't be Reg'd Tony, as the Reg'd fee was 9d alone! And will have back-stamps for sure and most likely red and blue lines from 60 years back.

Maybe the airmail fee was 3d as it was here, and this was meant to be sent air 2nd weight step, and the sender or clerk did not mark as air or affix an airmail label? Or that fell off.

Is it backstamped?

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Will add this piece below from another thread, to keep it within the data base of this Norfolk Island stamps and covers thread.

https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=55306

Rodney Perry added a large piece in his current 'Stamp News' article on it, saying it is the first commercial usage he has ever sighted or heard of, on the 1960 10/- Tropic Bird.
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Found! First Norfolk 1961 10/- Red-Tailed Tropic Bird stamp used on a parcel fragment

This stamp is a SG 36, cat £35 used. A scarcer high value used, but nothing to normally get excited about as many exist from FDC's and CTO copies.

A lady today bought over a pile of stuff her deceased mother left, and part of it was this Butterscotch Biscuit tin below full of used stamp from 1960s era mostly. On and off paper.

Most she had soaked off, as was the fashion of the time as Rod Perry laments so often. Had she done that with these, it would be a $20 find, not a $100 one. :lol:
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Rodney Perry has said he has not in over 40 years seen this stamp postally used - even a soaked off one. True, this is a bare parcel fragment, and not a full parcel label, but it is better than whatever else has been seen to date - ZERO!

https://www.rap.com.au/vPages.asp?vPagesID=Aug%2005

LUCKILY whomever got the parcel part tore, and part peeled these off, thinning the 5/- but importantly saving the underlying note on parcel - still showing to us (mirrored) at "17/2".

Penned by the clerk in Norfolk, that was indicating 17/2d was the assessed postage rate, and indeed we have 17/2d of stamps here showing this was the complete franking used.

Date is not possible to read - pretty normal from Norfolk where postal articles got roughly cancelled as noted in Rod's article above, but it is clearly a Norfolk cds.

On cover or a larger parcel piece with address, value 4 figures easily I'd guess. I've settled on a modest 3 figures sum for stock, but a fun find all the same! 8)

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A member here quickly snaffled it up at my apparently modest $100 asking price. :lol:

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Hi Tony,

What a lovely cover. The rate of 9½d is perfectly correct. The cover is a Double Weight Air Mail Letter (1oz) comprising two Air Mail Fees (3d per ½oz) + one letter rate of 3½d.

A collector of Ball Bay commercially used on cover (like myself) would probably pay $AU30-40.

Hope this is of help.

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Not in the big deal scale like the 10/- Bird, but I suspect precious few 1974 $1 Architecture used on piece are around either. :mrgreen:

This was in a junk lot I loaded up today and is added here just for the record. :)

https://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=57493
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Came across this rare major Re-entry at left of 'PEACE' in a collection of recently purchased Norfolk Island material - still on its original card as sold by Ray Simpson back in about 1970 for £5. First time I have seen this variety.

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I believe this is the 1½d green tinted paper variety.

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It's a pity about the tone, but I'm kind of cautious about the hot bath treatment because it still has full gum, and I'm not sure how the tint would react to warm water!

Does anyone have any recommendations?

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30c value with correctly spelt "Dieman's"
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30c value with incorrectly spelt "Difman's"
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Unfortunately this error will not show very well in the scan. However as I understand it the addressee when sorting through the stock received from NIPO he found one sheet of the 25c bird on glazed paper. What happened to the whole of the sheet I can't tell you but one stamp was put on cover to be postmarked by NIPO & that cover is above. He added a normal 25c stamp to the cover to show the difference.

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The 90c value contains a typo "Governor Phillip meeting the Home Society" instead of "Governor Phillip meeting the Home Secretary"
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The error was corrected later.

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satsuma wrote:I believe this is the 1½d green tinted paper variety.

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It's a pity about the tone, but I'm kind of cautious about the hot bath treatment because it still has full gum, and I'm not sure how the tint would react to warm water!

Does anyone have any recommendations?

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Ken .. yes I'd not be touching that one. :mrgreen:

Not are extreme as some but Tinted paper for sure.

The heavy green tint 1½d Rod mentioned I had an Imprint pair of, in a large Norfolk lot I sold here - it was priced decades back, but shows it well. :mrgreen:
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Brad the glazed paper cover is a most interesting item (I may well have been the under bidder all those years ago!).

For those who don't know what to look for a normal 25c bird stamp is slightly shiny - glazed paper does not shine.

For those who like paper creases.......

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I was intrigued by the name and address on the inter-island cover (Norfolk Island - Samoa) shown below; 16.DE.57. which was offered on ebay recently.
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Who could be so well known in a capital city that only their name was needed?
A Google search revealed that Aggie Grey was a famous hotelier who became one of Samoa's most popular and well known figures. Marlon Brando, Gary Cooper, William Holden, Raymond Burr and Robert Morley all stayed at her hotel.

She was friends with American writer James Michener and was widely believed to be one of the models for his character Bloody Mary that he created in 'Tales of the South Pacific' (1947), which was subsequently adapted into Roger and Hammerstein's Broadway musical 'South Pacific' (1949).

In 1971 she appeared on a Samoan stamp to celebrate tourism.

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As a collector of Norfolk Island postal history it was good to find the 2s 'Landing of Pitcairn Islanders' used to pay for a ½d-1oz air mail cover from Norfolk Island to Samoa (1s per ½oz), however, the name and address has made it so much more interesting.

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Aggie was quite a character. When I arrived in Samoa in 1970, there were but 2 hotels: Aggies and the Casino. Although the Casino had more South Pacific charm, Aggies had more life. Aggie Grey always produced first rate tourists shows. I fondly remember my stay at both hotels.

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There is no local delivery in Samoa, and a letter addressed to any well known person will be put in the appropriate PO box.
Used to happen like that in large cities like Sydney and London .. posties were amazing!

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The Gibbons catalogue Editor is interested to illustrate the cancels that appeared BEFORE 1947, i.e. that used on on Australian stamps pre-1947 and if possible a line illustration of the Tasmania numeral "72"

If anyone has a Registered cover pre 1947 with a CLEAR strikes of the Aust cancel please post it here and I'll pass it on.

Indeed of all the flaws listed above I feel sure SG might be quite amenable to adding a few obvious and striking plate flaws for which clear scans are possible.

Remember SG is a fairly general catalogue. For no country do they claim or attempt to list all well known flaws.

However 3 or 4 easily spotted CONSTANT varieties, where sheet position is known, with high detail pix, especially on better type stamps, may well be favorably considered.

This is YOUR chance to add to the current Norfolk listings whilst it is still in their to be looked at list. :)

And anything here, and I will pass it on.

For instance I will suggest the add to the footnote re 1960 10/- that 3 DIFFERENT types exist etc. Not known by most collectors.

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Tasmania numeral "72" was allocated to Norfolk Island, when the very harsh penal colony was set up there, and it was administered initially from Hobart, Tasmania.

The "72" canceller finally arrived on Norfolk Island in July 1854. The Government brig carrying it - the "Lady Franklin" initially sailed December 16, 1853, but was forced to turn back owing to a mutiny of the convicts on board. This cancel had only a short working life on Norfolk Island.

In May 1855 the last convicts were removed, and Norfolk was presumably uninhabited until the descendants of the mutineers from the "Bounty" arrived April 8 1856 from Pitcairn Island. Norfolk Island was removed from Tasmanian postal administration in October 1856, and reverted to New South Wales control.

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This is a cover done by prolific collector J C Thompson for the Duke Of Gloucester's visit to Norfolk Island:
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I will see what else I can find.

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Last day of usage of Australian Stamps on NI:
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