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Morning!

I see BigSaint enjoys horse racing and I'm sure many other 'boarders do too.

This thread will be a place we can share racing stories, post photos, chat about upcoming meets and even pass around a few "hot tips" 8)

Perth has two main horse tracks - Ascot and Belmont. Belmont is the winter track and I'll be heading down with the family on Saturday to watch the early races.

There is a group of 5 of us at work who have a couple of minor shares in a few horses and one of them will be running in the second race.

By shares I mean 10% of a couple of cheap horses - we each contribute about $35 per fortnight for training costs so not a serious investment - it's all a bit of fun.

We have a 2 year old bay colt called Ram Jam (out of Blackfriars and Nurse Betty) running in the second and he should be a good chance for a place but don't hold me to it! Has barrier 3 too so fingers crossed...

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Hey Ewen

What a great thread to start!

I would like to add Banna Strand, to the thread. Two years ago, he lost his rider but continued to run loose. He jumped a wooden gate & then made that mighty two metre plus leap over a fence, on top of some "freeloaders" who had crossed a barrier to watch. He spreadeagled them & fortunately for all, there was no one seriously hurt. I still say two years later what a jump. I watched how without a rider he lined up the "brush" part of this fence instead of the metal panel part & cleared it easily. The crowd reaction to the jump drowned out the chanting of "the paid uni student protesters" against jumps racing.

So it was quite fitting that the old boy win the race this year. Loved race caller Greg Miles comment "From Villain to Hero"!

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I loved the comments from the trainer John Wheeler about the 2011 jump;

Concerned the 2011 crowd incident, while not a racing mishap as such, might have repercussions for the sport he loves so much, Wheeler rang all seven injured parties. "Without exception, they all just said, 'That's what happens'," he said.

"I knew lawyers were offering to take their cases for free - they're villains for doing that, aren't they? - and no one was interested.

"These are rank and file people who are fair dinkum and I don't think (the incident) made a lot of difference.

"The mother of a kid who was injured said the horse was so kind, he tried to avoid them. And he is a kind horse."


(from the Herald Sun)

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I actually have one (So Inquisitive) entered at Geelong tomorrow, Cranbourne on Saturday, Sale on Sunday & Geelong on Tuesday. If she runs in all those places she will be giddy!! :lol:

My guess is she will run at Cranbourne. She tries hard but very limited in ability. Will be big odds again! 8)
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I don't mind big odds Brad, I only bet a few dollars anyway.

Best of luck for Saturday :)

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What appears to have been a very well kept secret at Australia Post, these were a couple of the items relating to Black Caviar today. Absolutely stunning items to match probably the best horse we will see in our life time.
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Australia Post did a great job putting Black Caviar on a stamp. But can anyone tell me why 3 time Melbourne Cup winner (2003, 2004 & 2005) is not on a stamp. She has done what no other horse has done in the 152 year history of the race. She won the most prizemoney in Australasia in $14,526,685. Sunline is 2nd with $11,351,607 & she has been on an Australian stamp & a New Zealand stamp. So why not Makybe Diva?

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Makybe Diva winning her 2nd Melbourne Cup in 2004. Incidentally she one each of her Cups by one & one quarter lengths.
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Good question.

We have a Makybe Drive in Baldivis, just south of Perth. Adjoining streets include Arwon, Beldale etc.

Must be time for a stamp featuring the Diva!

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Well at least the Victoria Racing Club (VRC) honoured her:

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This card was handed out to racegoers leaving the track on Cup Day 2005. I believe there were 3000 of them. I had this one signed by owner Tony Santic, trainer Lee Freedman (both at the bottom) & jockey Glen Boss at top left.
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This cover was done to celebrate the achievement by Lawrence Bove, a cachetmaker from Sydney. I am not sure how he had it cancelled on Melbourne Cup Day at Flemington, because the Post Office was shut due to the public holiday:

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I also had this cover signed by owner, Tony Santic, trainer, Lee Freedman & jockey, Glen Boss.
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She was also celebrated for the achievement by Peter Hatcher, a cachetmaker from Brisbane, who prepared this souvenir cover when Australia Post changed the pictorial postmark of the Melbourne Cup on 3rd January 2006 from the "Phar Lap" design to the Melbourne Cup "Trophy" design.

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First day of use of new Melbourne Cup postmark.
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Brad, I never did have a punt on "So Inquisitive" as "Ram Jam" was scratched that day. Better luck with her next run.

We have one racing at Pinjarra tomorrow in Race 8, sometime around 4pm I think. It's number 4, El Rijes, and he is a bilateral rig (not a gelding as we were first told).

The story behind that is here;

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/racing/14050004/rig-ruling-clears-mcauliffe/

I have a lot of affection for this horse, mainly due to him taking out the Perth Stakes last year at $91.

Should be worth a few bucks each way.

Cheers,

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Thanks Ewen, I will have a look. So Inquisitive ran so poorly we retired her.

I see that Black And Bent won a record 10 consecutive jumps races today by an easy 9 lengths. If I remember correctly, he broke the record of 9 wins by Lots Of Time that was set in the 1970's. Among Lots Of Times owners were The Seekers, Athol Guy, & VFL North Melbourne footballer, Sam Kekovich.
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Ewen , I am not a greyhound man but I would have liked to have made this post after your W A champ, Miata, had won the Sandown Cup last night but it was not to be.

Before last night she had racked up nine track records in four states & an Australian record about $700,000 in prizemoney.

Her average winning margin in her 42 wins (from now 51 starts) was nine lengths, & she has accumulated winning streaks of eight, 15 & 11. Twelve months ago, in her only other Sandown Cup appearance, she finished third to Graeme Bate's versatile superstar Irma Bale & last night she ran third to her again.

It reminded me of this greyhound postmark I have which I wrote away for when it was released as new pictorial postmark:

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Apparently not many people did this on first day of release, see excerpt from Stampboarder Ozpictormarks (the new version), Colleen won't mind me lifting this from there:

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Fantastic write up by Colleen on this one & if anyone has any interest in Australian Pictorial Postmarks, they should not be without a copy.

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An amazing dog Brad and one we won't see the likes of for a while .I watched her last two runs and she still has a lot of pepper in her stride.

El Rijes had a poor run yesterday and I'm looking forward to seeing Bell back on rather than Whiting.

Love your covers Brad and if there is anything I can get post-marked for you over here you must let me know

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Whilst on the dishlickers, I found this other postmark, from a time where it seemed Australia Post were making commemorative postmarks, just for the sake of it:

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The Woolloongabba (Gabba) Greyhound Club, re-birthed itself in 1971 (after closing in 1928). The first Gabba Dogs meeting run at the Brisbane Cricket Ground (yes - "The Gabba") was run in 1972. The dog track as you would expect was around the perimeter of the football & cricket ground.

Arnotts Biscuits, which were founded by William Arnott in 1865, & is one the icon Australian Business names (they also took over Brokhoff, Guests, Swallows & Sunshine) of Australia & became Australia's largest biscuit manufacturer with a predominant share of the Australian biscuit industry.

In 1977 Arnotts ventured into the pet food market with Spillers Food & by 1979 had purchased Spillers Foods' share of the pet food partnership and formed the Arnott-Spillers company. In 1982 it acquired the pet food and spice business of Robert Harper & integrated it with Arnott-Spillers to form Arnott-Harper Pty. Ltd.

The Greyhound National Sprint Championship was first run in 1965 & won by Best Sun. The Championship is conducted via series of heats in each state with the winner of each state final competing in the National Final. It is run in a different state each year. In 1982 it was run at the "Gabba" & it was fitting that the winner of the Final was Queensland greyhound Madonna Lee. The race that year was run over 558 metres.

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ewen s wrote:Good question.

We have a Makybe Drive in Baldivis, just south of Perth. Adjoining streets include Arwon, Beldale etc.

Must be time for a stamp featuring the Diva!
While on history lessons, I recall the subject of a radio programme I used to do for Southern FM which is based in Mentone Vic, under the alias of "Thoroughbrad". With over 700 closed racetracks in Victoria there were 3 in close proximity to the radio station, Aspendale, Epsom & Mentone. I will cover the easiest one first - Aspendale & come back to Epsom & Mentone when I locate my research.

Aspendale Park Racecourse was a horse racing & motor racing track located at Aspendale, a bayside suburb of Melbourne, about 28 kms south east from the Melbourne GPO. It was established by James Crooke, a horse trainer, in 1891, who named the course after Aspen, one of his best horses who won the Newmarket Handicap twice, in 1880 & 1881.

The track was situated east of the current Aspendale railway station & is believed to have been one mile (1.6 km) in length but was considered a country track being allowed only 12 meetings per year (same as Mentone & Epsom).

Robert Crooke was also a motoring enthusiast. In 1904, the RACV held its first automobile demonstration at Aspendale Park & in 1906 a motor raceway was constructed being Australia’s "first commercial track", although it was not overly successful.

The last recorded horse race at Aspendale Park was in 1931. After the course was closed for racing Mr Crooke allowed only one trainer to use the track privately for training his horses & that was Lou Robertson from Mordialloc. He trained his horses at the course until the late 1940s. He trained Marabou to win the 1935 Melbourne Cup & Gothic to win the 1927 Newmarket Handicap. Motor racing continued until the late 1940s. The area is now residential housing & a golf course.

Streets around the area are Robertson Parade, Marabou Place & Gothic Road being the only current day evidence of any horse racing in the area.

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The finish of the Aspendale Park Plate, circa 1921, won by Threeasta.
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Brad, did you get my board email about the post card that's up for auction that may be of interest to you :?:
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I found another Aspendale card, this one is the finish of the 1923 Aspendale Cup, won by Heir Apparent. He does not appear to be a horse of note as he does not appear in the Australian Studbook.

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Ewen,

Remember "Equine Influenza" (EI), I certainly do, my horse "Incentate" was never the same after he had a bad reaction to the vaccine.

Would you believe that this country is totally out of supply of the EI vaccine. Apparently Shamexpress & Sea Siren had the last of the supply, in readying them for their trips to England later this week. In this day & age, especially after the EI outbreak here, it is just unbelieveable that this can happen. So no other Aussie horses that can go anywhere overseas other than NZ.

What would happen to the horse industry here, if there was another slip up, & EI erupted again here, with no vaccine to immunise our horses?

Apparently the explanation is the company responsible for making it has been concentrating on a vaccine for the Hendra virus. You recall that this was the virus that Vic Rail (trainer of the mighty Vo Rogue) caught from one of his horses & died. Hendra virus, I understand is the only virus that tranfers between species, flying foxes, horses & us.

As bad (& fatal) as the Hendra virus is, I think it is crazy not to be continuing to produce EI vaccine. We don't want to be like Hokkaido which not only had EI, but also had bird flu & mad cow disease around the same time.

The laws of libel prevent me from stating here the name of the horse & the people responsible for introducing EI to this country. As we both know the quarantine practices were below the required standard & it was a miracle that we had not had an EI outbreak before. However we don't just want rely on quarantine to save our horses should things go wrong again.

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An addendum to yesterdays post on EI vaccine.

Apparently the lab is in Europe & they are not scheduled to make more of the vaccine for two months. Appears the horses bought at recent sales by overseas buyers cannot get their new purchases home.

John Singleton may have trouble getting More Joyous & More Strawberries over to England to meet up with Frankel.

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Ewen

I received this from a friend of mine. While the record of Tulloch is outstanding, I think it is very difficult to compare horses from different eras.

"Incomparable

Comparing the records of Black Caviar and Tulloch to the end of the three-year-old seasons is a revealing exercise.

What Tulloch did in the spring of 1957 will never be repeated. He won the Warwick Stakes, the Rosehill Guineas, the AJC Derby, the Caulfield Guineas, the Caulfield Cup, the Victoria Derby, the C.B. Fisher Plate and the Queensland Derby.

Later that season he won the VRC St Leger, Rawson (Ranvet) Stakes, Chipping Norton Stakes, AJC St Leger, All-Aged Stakes and Queen Elizabeth Stakes.

Add that to his seven wins as a two-year old (including the VRC and AJC Sires’ Produce Stakes, each worth more than the Cox Plate in those days) and he won 21 races at two and three over eight different distances.

His 14 wins at three came by a total of more than 84 lengths and his record Caulfield Cup win remain his for all time. Black Caviar won five races at two and three – a two-year-old handicap over 1000 metres and four races over 1200 metres, none of which was a Group 1."

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Tulloch Maxicard, signed by his legendary trainer Tommy Smith.

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Reverse of the Tulloch maxicard which some one has put to good use.

As good as they both are & despite Tulloch's great record, she is unbeaten in 25 starts & no other Aussie horse has done that. She won 3 Lightning Stakes, no horse other has done that , she went to Royal Ascot to win (Tulloch did not win outside of Australia), she broke a longstanding track record for 1000 metres at Flemington that had stood for over 20 years (& appeared to do it in a canter). I think that puts her nose in front!

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Hi Brad,

It is astonishing to me what you write about EI especially with the size of the racing industry here. I understand Hendra has all the publicity in recent times however we'd be the laughing stock of the world if EI broke out. And I think Singleton has had enough trouble with More Joyous without vaccine dramas!

Your Tulloch card is amazing - I can't imagine they'd be too many of those around - have you seen any others over the years? I'd also be interested in knowing if you'd exhibited any of your racing covers collection.

Interesting facts re: Aspendale and the 700 closed tracks in Vic. You get a feel for how big racing was when you fly over places and can make out track after track. I notice the same thing whenever I fly into Christchurch, NZ.

If I ever make it on to "who wants to be a millionaire" you'll definitely be my first "phone a friend" for any racing trivia! Keep the stories coming :)

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PS Tulloch and Black Caviar in a rare dead heat for me (but that may be my Kiwi bias coming through) :)

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Thanks for the vote of confidence Ewen.

By the way heard the chief steward from Queensland on the radio this morning. As you are aware some more of Nathan Tinkler's horses are being sold later this week. Apparently some of these that are up for sale are entered for Saturday's feature meeting at Eagle Farm. The stewards ruling is that if the horses are at the sale & are sold they will not be allowed to run on Saturday. However in they don't physically leave trainer John Thompson's stable & are sold at the sale, they will be allowed to run.

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ewen s wrote:Your Tulloch card is amazing - I can't imagine they'd be too many of those around - have you seen any others over the years? :)
I have few different one's like the Phar Lap below. I picked it up somewhere with Bart's signature on it, so I added the Phar Lap stamp & one of Bart's stamps & had it cancelled with the Melbourne Cup postmark.

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Amazing that Bart has now been training for 60 years, although he appears to have aged a bit, during illness, over the past few years. Great to see he has gone into a training partnership with his grandson.
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High praise indeed by "Bernie's" regular jockey, upon whom he won 15 races on end. One wonders how good he would have been if he had been able to race on professional tracks before age 6. His 1st owner was alleged to have done a "ring in" & therefore "Bernie" was not able to go to the professional races until Racing Authorities were convinced he had been legitimately sold.

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I think Athol (George) Mulley must have had a signing session at the Canberra City Post Office. I have seen a lot of covers signed by him postmarked here.
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Darby Munro fdc, one of these days I will write to the ATC (formerly the AJC) & ask how this fdc came about. I have a number of different sized envelopes with the same cachet.

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David Kirby, of Strand Stamps, spotted an error in the Philatelic Bulletin of the time, stating Darby was born in Sydney. David knew he had been born in Glenhuntly, hence the Glenhuntly postmaster, overnight, became very busy. At the time it was popular to add stamps to covers & have them cancelled with matching postmarks, but I cannot work out why the Perth one here & not the 1981 Melbourne Cup.
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Heard Roy Higgins celebrated his 75th birthday yesterday. 11 Victorian Jockeys Premierships & one of 7 jockeys to ride the winners of the Melbourne Cup, Caulfield Cup, Cox Plate & Golden Slipper.

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I obtained this envelope signed by Roy with picture of him & Red Handed, 1967 Melbourne Cup winner, a few years ago. When his stamp came out, I added his stamp & cancelled it at Flemington.

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Stampboarders viewing this cover should feel very privileged. This cover has not seen the light of day in a long time. I purchased this cover directly from the artist, Joyce Green, who loved to paint fdcs. Horses was one of her specialties. She handpainted covers for her penfriends & herself from about 1955 till about 1985. She worked as a commercial artist for a newspaper in Rockhampton doing design work on the ads. She would handpaint 6 covers & send them off for postmarking, with a number of them going overseas. One wonders how many ever reached their destination & survived.
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ewen s wrote:I'd also be interested in knowing if you'd exhibited any of your racing covers collection. :)
I did enter a one frame competition many a years ago with my 1960 Melbourne Cup material. Although I had a die proof, photographic essays of rejected designs & the official design as well as some very scarce fdc's I was heavily marked down on "rarity". The judges recommended that I could improve my rarity score by adding a block of 9 stamps, which I thought to be a curious comment to say the least. So I put that one away & maybe in a year or two, I will revamp this display and put it out there again.

I have at club level done many displays on the Melbourne Cup, Horse Racing Cards, Kentucky Derby & Secretariat. In time to come I will show these on Stampboards. A new one will be secretly unveiled next week at Brighton.

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Roy & Bart (following on from above)

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The Living Legends series always provided me with a challenge of having the covers signed. With the racing people it was easier to find them, unlike some of the other previous legends.
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However, Scobie Breasley made things difficult when he became the first "Living Legend" to pass away before his stamp issue. With a gentle hint from someone in the know I was able to prepare this cover that had been pre-signed by Scobie.

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Just for the record, Scobie won 5 Caulfield Cups, Tranquil Star 1942, Skipton 1943, Counsel 1943, St.Fairy 1944 & Peshawar 1952. He also won the Epsom Derby twice (Santa Claus 1964 & Charlottown 1966) & the Prix de l'Arc Triomphe (Ballymoss 1958). He rode 3,251 winners & the won English Jockeys premiership 4 times.

Although he never rode a Melbourne Cup winner he assured me that he should have ridden 3. Scobie told me, in 1933 Shadow King should have beaten Hallmark but for interference, in 1944 he accepted the ride on Mayfowl but then wanted to change to Sirius, but the owners would not let him change Sirius went on to win the cup & in 1947 due to suspension he lost the ride on cup winner Hiraji.

Sadly he passed away a month before his stamp was released.

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Edgar Britt, was born 1913, was one of the first of many Australian jockeys who came to ride in Britain after World War II. He rode his first winner at Canterbury, in Sydney, in 1930, before riding for the Gaekwar of Baroda in India in 1935. He then moved to Britain to ride for the Gaekwar. The Gaekwar's Sayajirao provided his first classic winner in 1947 in the Irish Derby & St. Leger. He then rode for Cecil Boyd-Rochfort, winning the St. Leger on Black Tarquin. He rode Musidora to win the 1949 1,000 Guineas & Epsom Oaks, Frieze in the 1952 Oaks, Nearula in the 1953 2,000 Guineas & Honeylight in the 1956 1,000 Guineas, all for Charles Elsey. Britt retired in 1959 and returned to Australia. In 2004, aged 90, Edgar Britt was awarded the Order of Australia medal for service to horse racing as a jockey, commentator & journalist & was inducted into the Australian Racing Hall of Fame, the same year.

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I had the pleasure of meeting Edgar there & obtained this photo of him & Scobie. At that time there was 181 years between them & neither had won a Melbourne Cup.

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Edgar had two rides in the Melbourne Cup. In 1932 he rode Eastern Chief into 19th place behind Peter Pan & in 1934 he rode Broken Arrow into 4th place behind Peter Pan. He told me but for interference on the home turn he would have run second, but would not have beaten the winner.

Edgar will turn 100 this year! :D
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Big Saint,
I'm in awe of your knowledge and covers. I'd love to know something about the old Mentone race track as I used to live in Mentone (1956-7) when I was a young tacker.
Where was it located ?
Don't you think Frankel was superior to our Nellie ?
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Richard

Thank you.

I am still looking for my notes on Mentone & Epsom. However Mentone racecourse was located just off Lower Dandenong Road before the Moorabbin Airport (when heading east from the Nepean Hwy towards Dandenong). Today if you were to turn left down Glenelg Drive you will come to the "Mentone Racecourse Reserve" which contains a lake that was originally in the centre of the Mentone race track. If you were to turn left from Glenelg Drive into Barwon St (not sure if this was named after the 1864 Melbourne Cup winner) you would come to Chicquita Park. I think this is where Tony Lopes stables were & he was the trainer of Chicquita.

Incidentally Chicquita ran second to Comic Court in the 1950 Melbourne Cup. Chicquita ran second to him again at their next meeting in the 1951 Lightning Stakes. Two miles back to 5 furlongs in the old or 3200 metres back to a 1000 metres in the new! Amazing performances by the pair.

The story does not end there, in 1956 Comic Court & Chicquita got "together" & the following year Comicquita was born. He ran second to Even Stevens in the 1962 Melbourne Cup.

So these are the only two things that remind people that there was a race track there.

I will have a ponder on Frankel & Black Caviar & come back to you.

Brad :)
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Earlier when discussing Edgar Britt, I mentionned 1932 & 1934 Melbourne Cup winner, Peter Pan.

Peter Pan & Phar Lap never met on the racetrack, but trainer Frank McGrath had no doubt who was the better: "Peter Pan", he said, "would have beaten Phar Lap from six furlongs to six miles".

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A vote of support by Roy Higgins. Interesting use of the Darby Munro stamp, as he rode Peter Pan to victory in the 1934 Melbourne Cup.

The Studbook shows his major wins, then called "Principal Races" but now referred to as "Listed & Group Races"

Year Race Name Status Distance (furlongs)
1932 AJC Derby Pr 12F
1932 RRC Hill Stakes Pr 10F
1932 VRC Melbourne (10f) Stakes Pr 10F
1932 VRC Melbourne Cup Pr 16F
1933 AJC Cumberland Stakes Pr 14F
1933 AJC Plate Pr 18F
1933 AJC St Leger Stakes Pr 14F
1933 Tatt's NSW City Randwick St Pr 8F
1934 AJC Autumn Stakes Pr 12F
1934 AJC Cumberland Stakes Pr 12F
1934 VRC Duke of Gloucester Cup Pr 14F
1934 VRC Melbourne (10f) Stakes Pr 10F
1934 VRC Melbourne Cup Pr 16F
1935 AJC All-Aged Stakes Pr 8F
1935 AJC Autumn Stakes Pr 12F
1935 AJC Craven Plate Pr 10F
1935 AJC Jubilee Cup Pr 12F
1935 AJC Spring Stakes Pr 12F
1935 RRC Hill Stakes Pr 10F
1935 RRC Rawson Stakes Pr 9F
1935 Tatt's NSW City Randwick St Pr 8F

His overall race record was 39 starts for 23 wins, 6 seconds, 1 third.

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Same postmarking as previous maxicard but this one is signed on the reverse by Malcolm Johnston.

Malcolm was the regular rider of the champion Kingston Town, who he rode to second in the 1982 Melbourne Cup (after Kingston Town won his third consecutive Cox Plate) & probably should have won. Malcolm won 6 Sydney Jockeys Premierships, riding in 11 countries & riding more than 2000 winners.

Interesting that the harness racing postmark is used in conjunction with the thoroughbred maxicard. Purists would object to the combination but to most a horse is a horse. :)
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BigSaint wrote:
but to most a horse is a horse. :)
Unless of course that horse of course is the famous Mr Ed!

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I found him at Moonee Valley races one night. :)

Sorry couldn't resist!! :D :D :D
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Thanks Brad for the info about Mentone.
You're a wealth of racing knowledge.
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Richard

Thank you, I thought you were going to tell me you used to live in Glenelg Drive.

Brad :D
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Above I showed some Peter Pan maxicards which had been cancelled with the 1981 Interdominion Pacing Championship Hobart Tasmania. The really interesting part about this cancel was that it was the first Australian horse racing (of any type) pictorial postmark. The postmark was available from 7th March 1981 until 21st March 1981. While 9221 cancels were done, I understand that not everyday has been seen. Most cancels were done on race nights & I suspect that many were pre-prepared for immediate sale over the post office counter.

Harness Racing was very popular at the time being shown on live tv on Saturday night from the Melbourne Showgrounds initially & later Moonee Valley.

The Inter Dominion is a harness racing competition that has been contested since 1936 in Australia and New Zealand. Until recently the series was rotated between the six harness racing states of Australia and the North and South Islands of New Zealand. Now the final is raced at Menangle in Sydney with heats run in the states & in NZ. The first winner was Evicus.

1981 was the first time it was run in Tasmania. It was a series of 9 heats run over 3 nights with points awarded for best finishing positions, with the highest point scorers competing in the final.

The first night of competition was Saturday March 7th

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The cachet here is an add on done by Havilah Enterprises of Ballarat (& was added on around 1996)

The cachet records the results & shows WA champ winning his heat which was his 29th win in a row, & undefeated at that time.
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The second night of competition was Wednesday March 11th.

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The cachet here is an add on done by Havilah Enterprises of Ballarat (& was added on around 1996).

You will note that San Simeon is not listed among the winners this time. He suffered defeat for the first time this night being beaten by Michael Frost.
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The third night of competition was Saturday March 14th.

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The cachet here is an add on done by Havilah Enterprises of Ballarat (& was added on around 1996).

You will note San Simeon is back in the winners list.
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The grand final night of competition was Saturday March 21st.

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The cachet here is an add on done by Havilah Enterprises of Ballarat (& was added on around 1996).

San Simeon was the winner. He was later to race in the US but was unsuccssful. His career record was 39 starts, 33 wins, 2 seconds & 1 third for prizemoney of $383,799.
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Some collectors became quite inventive. The Hobart Showgrounds where the event was run is at Elwick, so Elwick cds is nice tie in, as is Glenorchy, a neighbouring suburb where the Darby Munro stamps were cancelled on their first day of issue. I can only guess that the Zebra Finch stamps were to be cancelled on March 14th. The NZ Cardigan Bay stamp is effectively being used as a cachet.

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Signed by Vin & Kotare Knight the first heat winner.

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Signed by J L Honan trainer of Ardstraw who won second heat.

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Reverse of these two covers, which were identical, red Elwick cancels on first night & grand final nice are very striking.
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The only 1981 Interdominion Postmark I have seen that was not on a race night.

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Cover done by prolific collector, Rev J E Materne, who made his own cachet.

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Tasmania Pacing Club stationery cover, on grand final night.

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The start of the grand final:

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San Simeon leads in the last lap of the grand final:

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