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Folks,

Postcards offer some of the most interesting rates and single usages that you can find. Airmail cards could be sent cheaper than the normal rate and there was usually a stamp designed just for that purpose in most issues. Used singly they are usually scarce.

The postcard rate also applied to printed matter which included printed cards. These cards were allowed to be posted at the lower rate provided they were sent in an unsealed envelope and contained not more than 5 words of additional writing.

So you could send a Christmas card to Auntie Vi in England in an unsealed envelope with a couple of words on it at the cheaper rate.

Here is a nice example of the 18c Fauna Conservation used for exactly that purpose. The envelope is unsealed and the backstamp is partially under the flap proving that it was never sealed. This is a scarce usage.

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Folks,

Here is a postcard and a letter paying the same rate using the same stamp. Collectors of this type of material would love to get an example of both types of this rate. Very scarce to see the two together. I have had the 18c Postcard for awhile and was lucky enough to pick up the unsealed letter recently. Its great to see them together I think.

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Folks,

Here is a letter and postcard again at the 15c rate. Make up stamp usage on postcards is not unusual as the correct single stamps were often not available in all postoffices. The 13c heath stamp was the previous rate and has been upgraded with a 2c queen.

The 15c Galah is a scarce singe use stamp

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Folks,

This one is an example of what usage collecting is all about for me. The Australia Asia series is quite rare on any commercial cover. Single usage rarer still. Postcard usage extremely rare. Rod Perry has seen one only. This one is the second. And what a pretty stamp. How many people would skip past it in a dealers $1 box? Its paying the Zone 4 rate in 1971

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Didge wrote:
How many people would skip past it in a dealers $1 box?
Me!

The mind boggles at how many of these kind of things over the decades I have not looked at. :)

A great 'new' field I recommend to anyone. :idea:

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Folks,

These cards are at the opposite end of the time scale. They are really interesting I think as they show the transition from Australian State stamps to the new Commonwealth stamps perfectly. The first was used in 1912 with Victorian State stamps. The second was used on 7 January 1913 just a few days after the introduction of the new Kangaroo and Map Commonwealth stamps but is still using Victorian stamps. State stamps used in the Commonwealth period are very collectable. The third was used on 23 January 1913 and has a combination of Vic State stamp and Commonwealth Stamp again very collectable. The fourth has all Commonwealth stamps on it. They are from the same sender and receiver. I have 13 in total in the group from the same sender and receiver.

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Glen,

Any you see now you can bundle up for me if you like.

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Here's three of my favorite PCs.
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This is a similar 13c pink heath, but uprated this time by a 2c crab.

Zone 5, which isn't difficult - but Estonia would be unusual I'd have thought.
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I found this in a bunch of stuff I bought to get something else that was in it.

Looks innocent, but I noticed this week that Torsten Weller has this stamp on a postcard, and he wants A$132 for it.

Is it rare?

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A 13c pink heath solo, and a bit of a puzzle.

Why does this have 13c on it?

I think it only needed 8c for airmail(?) Possibly less, as 8c is the letter rate of 5 + 3c for airmail - presumably PCs would be less.

Possibly a simple overpayment, but it makes a very interesting addition to a usage collection of this stamp - how many of these can there be around?!

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PS If you'd told me 12 months ago that I would be getting interested in this sort of material (indeed in any sort of modern material), I'd have laughed in your face!!

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Scott,

The 1/- Colombo Plan on card is a scarce thing. I have one as well. I think it would be on a par with the tamanian tiger on card.

Keep up the interest mate. Your help has been great.

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Tim,

No way - it's your help and encouragement that has really got me going on this!

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Folks,

Here is another very scarce postcard. Its the 15cent Timber from the Primary Indrustries series. Its a Zone 5 usage. Rod valued it at $75 in a 2007 column. It was sent to Italy in June 1970.

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Hi all Reddog here.

T'would appear you don't have to pay anything if you're the postie :!:
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By the way, Didge, you keep coming up with some real beauties.

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Reddog,

I guess every job has its advantages.

Thanks for the complement.

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Dear All,
Great thread. I have picked these postcards up whilst chasing Norfolk Island postal history. Since Norfolk Island uses Australian postal rates can someone please post Surface and Air Mail post card rates 1966-1990?
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Chris,

Some nice cards there. My understanding (which is not at all definate) is that surface rate postcards were at the same rate as surface rates to that zone at that time. Airmail ones are a different story. I will post airmail postcard rates in the decimal rates wicki soon. I have shifted and am still a bit disorganised.

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Dear All,

A couple more - the 'famous' Tasmanian Devil and a nice solo 13c used for 2nd class mail.
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Folks,

Some nice cards there. I love the tazzy tiger one. Pertinax and I have been chatting off line and both would be interested in buying some of your cards if they are for sale.

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here are a group of cards I turned up while looking through my covers for other items to post. Hope you enjoy them.
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A lovely matched pair!

The top postcard is the 'more common' 1978 45c bird in its original form - perf 12.7. I say more common, but Rod Perry lists solo use of this stamp on zone 5 PC in his August 2007 column at $40.

The lower card is the later and significantly less common perf 14 x 14.5. I see Rod doesn't price this stamp on PC, so it's possible he hasn't seen one. Or at least not up till the column date of Aug 2007. He says this late perf change of the 45c bird is THE most difficult to find of the entire set, on non-philatelic mail.

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I don't know if this is particularly scarce or not, but I always liked this set and this is a really attractive use of its high value.

I have no idea why this has 60c on it in 1981, when the two bird PCs above have only 45c in 1982 and 1983. I wonder if 45c was the correct PC concessional rate, and that the sender has put 60c on because it was the normal airmail letter rate, not knowing he was overpaying??

This has been cancelled at Garden Island, Sydney (naval base) and I'm pretty sure the sender was a visiting French sailor.

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Folks,

Nice cards. The 8d tigercat is a scarce card. The 45c Woodswallows are beauties Scott.

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The 15c Timber on postcard is a great card Didge.

Quite a few 1/2d Tasmanian Tiger postcards have turned up after the initial excitement of one being auctioned :o , but still a good item.

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Rod Perry mentions this use in his June 2003 Column, and says his was the first he'd seen.
Presumably he's now seen more, but here's another.

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The 63c Technology is a nice card (for a modern item :) )

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I like the awry values like the 63c. Nice find, and I think covers and cards like them are the future of philately.
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The 8d tigercat is in my opinion on card to Europe as rare as the 1'2 tasmanian tiger. It was shipmail to Europe, when most people used airmail.

The 1'2d Tassie Tiger solo used seems to get more and more common. :D But don't worry about that, I'm not planning to destroy the market. ;) At least I have less solo used 1/- colombo plan then Tasmanian Tigers.
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It is on a cover to Switzerland paying the double rate.
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My favourite and best postcard.

2D Brown perf 14 Small multiple watermark.
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Very rare on cover, even more as a solo franking.
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some more nice postcards.

1D die II and 1.5d No crown variety.
not seen on a postcard before together.
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Hmm, I think I've decided the 1/2 Tasmanian Tiger is much more famous than it is scarce!
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Common in Europe and scarce in Australia. We need to reverse that trend :!:

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Tas Philatelist wrote:Common in Europe and scarce in Australia. We need to reverse that trend :!:
:D Well, the fact is, that I bought every 1'2d single used Tasmanian Tiger I've seen in the last five years. The shown 3 cards and 2 covers were all I have found. But, in the same time I've only found one single used 4½d red KGVI on card or only one single used 25 Cent Independence of PNG, or only two 63 Cent robotics like pertinax showed. Just to point out the ratio.

(But with the 4½d it was more luck than knowledge)
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Rolin,

Smart move mate. Wont loose doing that. I like the single tazzy on the envelope paying the card rate rather than the postcard rate. I have not seen one of those before. I have a pair as well paying the zone 5 rate. Still one of my favourite stamps.

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I have a few to add to those previously shown - may give a better idea on just how scarce they are. I've grabbed them when spotted and I've been looking for them - so despite all the examples being shown I suspect they're still hard to find.

18c also on envelope with flap not stuck
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18cx2 - unsure to what this was paying
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Here is my 14x14.5 perf bird (masked woodswallow) on post card
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A few more:

Yes - another tassie tiger
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Here is an 8d Tiger Cat used on a card from the South Australian Botanical Gardens
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and finally, 1/- Colombo plan on cover paying the card rate - as is a[pparent from the inscription
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A few more...probably work well with Tim's montage of state to federal usage. These are pre-printed post cards issued by the Commonwealth but with state stamp issues to make up the necessary postage charge.

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Seapaw,

Nice ones.

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Three more nice ones:
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I really like the last one above.
It's a very unusual use of those values, IMHO, and on top of that I never thought it would be possible to claim a postcard has unusual content, but I was wrong - this one is conveying the sender's latest moves in a 'by mail' chess game!

The centre PC is an unusual use of the 15c Galah in 1967.
This was an overpayment of 5c at the time (I think).
5c was quite a lot of money about that time - I remember it used to get me on the bus for a distance that would now cost about $3.

Have you all found that there are quite a large proportion of overpayments on PCs?
Surely it's not just a co-incidence that I seem to have found so many so quickly.
Probably this is due to two reasons:
1. Confusion about the concessional PC rate, including senders not knowing about it; and
2. Tourists who realise they are overpaying, but decide they may as well use those stamps up or get lumped with them.

Would you agree?

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The 15c Galah is not 5 Cent overpaid. Maximal 2 Cents to much, rate to Belgium was 13 Cent. But I think it is a oversized card, so the 15 Cent could be correct, I will check it.

The hungarian card is great.

Gratulations to that find.
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Great postcards, especially the one with the 1971 Christmas stamp.

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rate to Belgium was 13 Cent
Ah, thanks for putting me straight on that.
I'm mixing up the 10c rate to Zone 4.

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Found another oldie from Western Australia to Sweden - and it's taxed as it was underpaid - and...posted in 1913!!
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Scott,

Nice cards.

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A couple of extra postcards - sent early 1960's - any ideas on correct use of rate?
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